Volumetric smoke

[supple path]

Pretty self explanatory

[sterile geyser]

Might be too performance taxing but idk

[cosmic cargo]

Eh what's a bit more

Just add another 6 months to dev time

[static yew]

stop recommending weird shit. I dont want to play the game at 40fps

[magic mountain]

valve's volumetric smoke is very very efficient and well documentated online. it shouldnt cost a lot of resources to compute and render it. its just voxel grids.

[sterile geyser]

Counter strike is also a game with 10 players per match and very small maps… not sure if this would translate well to 2 square km with 250 players in it

And also I’m just not sure volumetric smoke would fit the low graphic art style

[magic mountain]

im not worrid about 250 players and 2 square km maps. u can implement good volumetric smoke by adding similiar LOD system (further away the smoke the lower voxel grids) and occlusion culling

i think it would fit very very well with the overhaul update

[sterile geyser]

This is true

But why do we need it

I don’t think it fits the artstyle

I also just don’t like the overhaul art style

I want them to stick with the current one

[magic mountain]

theres issue with smoke passing through walls

the overhaul and remastered art style i would say is pretty much almost the same, except overhaul has more details and more post processing effects

please let us disable sharpening & chromatic abberation effects

[sterile geyser]

Overhaul is full of bloom and stuff

And fog

And I don’t like the voicelines

Voicelines gotta go

And I also don’t like the new recoil animations

I think it should just stay like it is now graphics wise

Except add the overheating barrels that’s cool

[cosmic cargo]

Everything else in this update:

It's overhaul might as well overhaul smokes

[radiant raft]

They did

And it's ass

[inland crypt]

we dont want another playtest incident lmao

[full bridge]

we just need smoke to be server based instead of client. That's it

[magic mountain]

how is the smoke client based?

[full bridge]

smoke contains of many 2d images, they are rotating based on your camera rotation, so every player sees the smoke differently

[magic mountain]

thats the part im confused. the server should not process the smoke's visual, WE have to do that processing. it would save a lot of computing power if we do that processing. this is why the smoke's visual needs an overhaul. not make the server do all the hard work.

if we are talking about client calculates the smoke's velocity, position and aim direction then yes that should be server sided. visuals should be client sided.

[full bridge]

tbh I haven't worked with the multiplayer games so don't know much about it. What I mean is that every player should see the smoke identically, so it will be fair for everyone

[clever jolt]

he's talking about that

[lament epoch]

The smoke gets bugged or something and on 2 different clients it can look drastically different