#agt rework

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true blaze
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granade spam just changed into c4 and rpg spam may they also be deleted by the agt please

bright briar
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make more sentries agt gets c4 and nade, then another for RPG only

humble kindle
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Give trophy actual counterplay first, currently trophy:

Cant be destroyed by any explosive

Doesn’t despawn at all, when normally gadgets are supposed to despawn when the person placing them goes into the respawn menu

Has Unlimited use, with zero cooldown.

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And yet its still “not powerful enough” for you?

plucky lodge
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Dont make it despawn upon death, everything else is fine

humble kindle
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No, do

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Its legit “I pressed mouse one, you cant use sandbox tools”

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There is absolutely zero counterplay to that and if people wanna make the argument c4 spam is brain off, then trophy spamming and not being punished for it when you die is effectively just as stupid, lets not pull a double standard here.

plucky lodge
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I mean look, next update it wont be able to destroy nades through walls and being able to sandwich it between sandbags which is a big nerf already

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Im fine if other explosives can damage it

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Perfectly fine

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But making it despawn upon death will just make it useless

humble kindle
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It has unlimited uses. It doesn’t despawn.

This is literally the same discussion we had months ago

plucky lodge
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And its easily countered by c4

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And RPG

humble kindle
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Which OP is suggesting that no longer should be the case

plucky lodge
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I dont really agree with OP to be clear

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C4 is its own seperate discussion that i wont adress here

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And antinade destroying RPGs is asinine

humble kindle
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C4 getting nerfed anyways but besides the point

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Just the same discussion only on the defensive end

plucky lodge
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I agree with other explosives damaging it, but at least dont make it despawn

humble kindle
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Just establish some ways to make it more fun to fight against, or make it clear that I need to kill/deny revives of someone so the trophies will go away (helping my team do things like use smokes for pushes)

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Or nade clumps of enemies

plucky lodge
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I mean considering that you can just smoke near the antinaded sandbag already, and that antinades next patch will not destroy nades thru walls and sandbags, you would already have decent counters with smoke

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And since vaulting will also be cracked, breaching will be easier than ever

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Antinades not despawning is the only thing keeping it from being useless and removing the little actual defensive options the game has

humble kindle
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Point is in the current patch it’s asinine to fight against, and the easiest way to deal with trophy spam is just spamming other explosives, then hunting them down after the clump of enemies are dead.

So it creates a problem of “wtf so much explosive spam” in another way, but it’s either that or getting lucky with a push or the enemies being unaware. Either way neither side is happy.

And smoke GL would be an option.. if smokes weren’t bugged. They are currently so that’s out of the question.

plucky lodge
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Better to revisit this discussion after the patch so we can have actual info that we can use instead of speculating

obtuse wing
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i can see why it should destroy c4 but not rpg

humble kindle
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At least without a limit of some sort or them actually despawning when you kill the guy using them. At least imo

bright briar
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I'm pretty sure most gadgets stay after death

obtuse wing
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ammo and medic boxes disappear. c4 too

bright briar
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huh, I swore ammo boxes stayed

obtuse wing
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only until the respawn

bright briar
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I don't see enough people even attempt to drop the medic box to know

obtuse wing
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as long as they are in the death screen they dont

bright briar
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ah fair enough

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I still say the trophy having a .1-second cooldown would be enough to fix it. hell, maybe less since it has to actually have LOS eventually.

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But it needs to have something, instead of being instant to everything within a radius

obtuse wing
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emp nades kat

bright briar
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“A six-inch blade Pickaxe never loses reception.”

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but honestly support grenades, more support options for gadgets beyond "delete enemy" is only a good thing

obtuse wing
bright briar
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Well, EMP, for one. Different types of trophies that specialize in something instead of being general. To be fair, there are not many grenade types out there beyond EMP, smoke, flash, and frag(we technically have HE with the AT nades) that aren't sci-fi like recon nades.

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of course those are for what we got now. anything more would take knowing how the game works post-update and what ever they have planned after that (like the tank trophy system)

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Specialized drones could be a thing, like a dedicated recon drone that moves faster and has more zoom, and an FPV type for vehicles or infantry. in other words, just specilization so we have things to pick through for our playstyle instead of a one size fits all that everyone will always pick because it does all the jobs well

plucky lodge