#Starting sniper sucks

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unkempt socket
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The starting sniper in this game is genuinely horrible, fix it

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Please.

gleaming trout
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the update will change the balance of pretty much everything so will most likely be fixed by then

thorny ocean
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Update tomorrow btw

hushed thorn
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Play with any other class until unlock sv98

unkempt socket
unkempt socket
simple root
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No

gritty crag
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What's wrong with the SSG 69?

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I find it to be a fairly decent weapon

unkempt socket
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Even if my shots hit they do no damage

gritty crag
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Shoot the head

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it really isn't that deep

cerulean juniper
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It's really not that much worse than any other sniper. Can the other be better? maybe. But the only one that is actually easily called better in the m200.

gritty crag
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With the extended mag it has the largest sniper capacity by far

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I feel it's a more than fair tradeoff

gleaming trout
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Slow bolt speed horrid velocity

cerulean juniper
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990 m/s

gleaming trout
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AR velocity right there

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Also 990 is with long supp

cerulean juniper
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all other sniper rifles are chilling at about 1k lol

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1100 with max

full grove
cerulean juniper
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baring the m200

full grove
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Its some made up bs

cerulean juniper
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point still stands anway since they are all based on the same thing

full grove
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Just as a point of reference, 1000 velocity is roughly 3800 m/s

cerulean juniper
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yeah no

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maybe Feet

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not meters

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the bullet would literally cross the map in less than a second

full grove
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I tested it in the shooting range with a rem700
Whatever the velocity value is, it does not correlate with any real world measurement for speed

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Go see for yourself

cerulean juniper
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never said it was real

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but its not 3800 m/s

gleaming trout
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For context average sniper velocity is 1090 and ssg g is at 900

cerulean juniper
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most snipers are at 1.1 max iirc

gleaming trout
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Average dmr velocity is 987.5

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gleaming trout
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Sv98 is 1000

cerulean juniper
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aren't the maps like 5k straight?

gleaming trout
cerulean juniper
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yeah then no way 3800 is the correct value

gleaming trout
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It's close

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Don't think 3800 is exact but it's def close

cerulean juniper
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how?

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that means in one second the bullet goes past the map if you are sitting on a border

gleaming trout
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I'll check for you

cerulean juniper
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if snipers shot that way, they would be even easier to use

full grove
cerulean juniper
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its still weird the numbers, barring the m200, are accurate to the velocities of their IRL counterparts, but not being true in practice

full grove
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Tbh what did you expect

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Oki spaghetti code

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And apparenly zero knowledge in physics

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Yknow someone should make BBR velocity converter

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From BBR goofy ass velocity to real life

gleaming trout
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It takes 1 seconds for a 1000 velocity gun to travel 1000 metres

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It is infact in metres per second

full grove
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What

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Damn i mustve fucked up back in the day

gleaming trout
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This doesn't count total distance as the bullet goes in an arc

cerulean juniper
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I think you changed feet to meters

gleaming trout
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But close enough

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So count in ms^-1

cerulean juniper
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ehh, not quite a direct, but 1000 m is 3200 feet per second

gleaming trout
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I believe I recall vilaskis saying that velocity isn't measured in m/s so that's probably where found got the incorrect info from

full grove
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Great now devs are spreading misinfo

cerulean juniper
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and then the devs find a way to still lose the one W they had

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I swear if he's gonna say its in blocks/second

full grove
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I will recheck and figure out how i mightve messed up later

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Seems odd that ive been off that much

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Unless the gun and attachments do some other tomfoolery idk about

cerulean juniper
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1150 is about that

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so maybe you did the math on a gun with that number and just misrememberd it as 1k?

full grove
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Like i said tested it with a REM700 and some supressor, so the velocity was 1050

full grove
gleaming trout
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i cant find the message talking about velocity so i might be misremembering idk

full grove
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And went from there

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I will check again on this tho

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Either way, change sniper balance oki

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Make other snipers unique

gleaming trout
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^ this

gritty crag
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They all blend together

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except the m200

cerulean juniper
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problem is that you can't really do that with bolts

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and the m200 just has fake numbers lol

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m200 max muzzle is 1200-1210 with AP irl

gritty crag
cerulean juniper
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I still have no fucking clue how they got 1400

gritty crag
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running speed, bolt speed

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ads speed, etc...

cerulean juniper
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fair, change how the soldier uses it, not the gun

gritty crag
full grove
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Also turns out premiere pro counts frames and not miliseconds for some reason, which i mistook for miliseconds

near cipher
slender kite
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The update fixes this

hexed mulch
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i think

agile plank
unkempt socket
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Its a “Bloodborne pc port” type situation

unkempt socket
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The other half is the abysmall bullet velocity snd damage

cerulean juniper
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it headshots just fine. and its bullet velocity is only 100 m/s less than basically every other sniper.

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its a midline shooter, and it does its role just fine

full grove
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Well as ive said already they really have to rebalance the snipers

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It is still the worst sniper rifle and honestly a really bad one to give to a new player

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If you are gonna have a closer range sniper, then make it at least bolt faster or something

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It just has zero benefits over the other sniper rifles

gleaming trout
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the update will change the balance of pretty much everything so will most likely be fixed by then

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good ol' copy paste

full grove
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True true

warm marlin
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Honestly it’s not that bad

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Other snipers are better but back before I unlocked other snipers I remember getting a few hundred kills on it

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This is actually just a skill issue

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And I’m not that good

cerulean juniper
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Unless you are using it from a mile away, it's gonna be fine.