Revives by default should be free of charge, no bandage used. However, said revive will be slower. A bandage can still be used, and it should give the revived person 50 health (Or it could just speed up the revive).
While a person is being revived, they will stop bleeding out. The dead person can still give up if they wish to respawn.
If multiple people are reviving the same person, the revive will be faster (maybe 10-20% faster per person helping)
#Some actual revive tweaks
main valve
jagged stag
"teaks"
Revives should be free, maybe akin to CPR, bringing a person up to 50 if done by non-medic, 100 if done by medic.
Bandaged should be for bleeding and healing only.
main valve
Revives should be free, maybe akin to CPR, bringing a person up to 50 if done by...
Mfw bleeding is literally gone next update
sinful arrow
Free revives sounds like a imbalanced feature, snipers for example will reviving each other every time when one of them would be killed
jagged stag
which would matter if they take away the big ass box full of bandages they keep calling in
otherwise, a free revive would change nothing for them
main valve
Free revives sounds like a imbalanced feature, snipers for example will reviving...
You think that doesnt happen already with 20 crates in the safezone
sinful arrow
You think that doesnt happen already with 20 crates in the safezone
it will be even a bigger problem
main valve
it will be even a bigger problem
But it really wont because a bunch of maps are getting rid of the safezone bullshit where it does happen anyways
1s1k literally shaking and crying at new sandy
sinful arrow
But it really wont because a bunch of maps are getting rid of the safezone bulls...
what
distant cloud
not sure if reviving without a bandage should stop the timer
if it doesnt recons wouldnt be able to revive each other all the time since the timer will run out
main valve
what
Some maps, especially sandy are being reworked so that recons and vehicles wouldnt be able to camp in the safezone as they can rn
They wont be as safe as they are now
main valve
not sure if reviving without a bandage should stop the timer
Maybe you be right
sinful arrow
Some maps, especially sandy are being reworked so that recons and vehicles would...
and that's good
so what
I dont understand
main valve
I dont understand
The issue you mentioned will not be an issue because they straight up wont be able to camp in the safezone anymore
Their tactic or resupplying with 20 crates wont be viable
They wont be THAT safe anymore
sinful arrow
The issue you mentioned will not be an issue because they straight up wont be ab...
but they can be behind sandbag, so when one of them is getting killed, the second one is reviving him. And that's until they both will not be killed
main valve
but they can be behind sandbag, so when one of them is getting killed, the secon...
RPG with/without using mortar tactic, grenades and other assorted boom booms exist
And recons will have 70% less incentive to be there anyways
sinful arrow
RPG with/without using mortar tactic, grenades and other assorted boom booms exi...
snipers mostly located far away from the battlefield, engineer will be forced to go straight to their location to kill them if he really wanted it, otherwise those snipers will be almost unkillable
main valve
snipers mostly located far away from the battlefield, engineer will be forced to...
RPG mortar tho
main valve
not everyone can kill with rpg from the far range
RPG dropoff is big enough that you can practically use it as a makeshift mortar
Especially heats
sinful arrow
RPG dropoff is big enough that you can practically use it as a makeshift mortar
it's hard to master
main valve
Ok and
sinful arrow
well, snipers will be mostly unkillable, they will almost everytime be in their positions
jagged stag
if a sniper is "nearly/mostly unkillable" then they can be ignored in 80% of the maps as they are now.
main valve
well, snipers will be mostly unkillable, they will almost everytime be in their ...
Explain to me on the new sandy layout where in the hell could they, on this literal flatland, have a viable place from the safezone to make such an issue from
#battlebit-eng message
Like please explain how
sinful arrow
Explain to me on the new sandy layout where in the hell could they, on this lite...
Like on other maps, why are you talking only about sandy
main valve
Cause its 1 of like 2 or 3 maps where it is an issue at all
And on those other 1 or 2 maps its a strech due to how negligible they are
sinful arrow
Like please explain how
they can be covered behind sandbags as example, and be unkillable it their positions. And they can be pain in the ass for other players as well, because basically they are unkillable until something will happen
main valve
But they literally rarely are a pain in the ass, when they physically cannot camp in the safe zone
sinful arrow
they can be covered behind sandbags as example, and be unkillable it their posit...
Not even snipers, like anyone can revive each other to make some impactful damage to the enemies with no consequences
sinful arrow
But they literally rarely are a pain in the ass, when they physically cannot cam...
idk, to me it happens pretty frequently
main valve
Skill issue
Imma be real
Thats just skill issue
On sandy and new dusty sure they are annoying
jagged stag
as I said before if A sniper is so safe to be nealrly unkillable, it is your own fault that you are getting ganked by them
sinful arrow
Thats just skill issue
maybe, but I dont really see reasons why reviving should be free
sinful arrow
as I said before if A sniper is so safe to be nealrly unkillable, it is *your ow...
why
jagged stag
because their scope is limited. from the safe zone on problematic maps, there are paths and obstructions to give them as little time seeing you as possible. they are also usually far as fuck away so unless you are completely exposing yourself to them for a relatively long period of time, they should not be able to hit your reliably.
main valve
maybe, but I dont really see reasons why reviving should be free
People complain and dont want to waste bandages reviving others, this affects infy gameplay VERY poorly
jagged stag
because keep in mind, in your words, the ones that are "nearly unkillable" will not have many spots to shoot at.
sinful arrow
People complain and dont want to waste bandages reviving others, this affects in...
who
I'm hearing it for the first time
jagged stag
literally anyone not a medic main
main valve
I'm hearing it for the first time
Hol up lemme pull up a suggestion rq
jagged stag
some are more vocal about it. most just don't do it because they only have 6
sinful arrow
because their scope is limited. from the safe zone on problematic maps, there ar...
in this little time they can kill you anyway
cinder stump
@main valve agreed tbh running support is a pain in the ass reviving everyone when I'm trying to give ya ammo and trying to kill shit while u grab yr ammo
jagged stag
https://discord.com/channels/303681520202285057/1297250844768731258
not reliably
if you want to not die, don't play
...wrong reply, goddammit
jagged stag
it moved as I clicked it
jagged stag
in this little time they can kill you anyway
yes, and its usually luck that would do it if you move properly, because these snipers that are "mostly unkillable" sit in the same spots miles away.
so as I said, if you want to not die, just don't play. sometimes that's just how it goes
sinful arrow
yes, and its usually luck that would do it if you move properly, because these s...
usually, but not everytime. Like on the assault class I almost never get killed by a sniper. But with engineer it is, becuse of how slow this class, and my equipment is
cinder stump
@jagged stag or avoid em🤙
jagged stag
usually, but not everytime. Like on the assault class I almost never get killed ...
so just skill issue avoiding some of the more useless snipers in game.
sinful arrow
But idkkk, it feels wrong to me to reviving for free, idk how to explain it tho
but okay
main valve
usually, but not everytime. Like on the assault class I almost never get killed ...
This is why i run DMRs on engine and hunt vehicles
jagged stag
But idkkk, it feels wrong to me to reviving for free, idk how to explain it tho
because your used to using bandage. most games have unlimited revives.
sinful arrow
Okay, I'll think about it
sinful arrow
Is bleeding out going away?
yes
harsh kernel
it will be even a bigger problem
And the whole crux of that problem is caused by how poorly designed the safezones are, not the bandages. “Immune to most of the sandbox” and “they aren’t fun to fight against” are different issues btw. If they’re willing to build a sandbag fort as cover that’s an entirely different thing.
Paterons say its fine though, no we cant have safezones akin to FL’s ones, the poor noobs going 2-10 and NOT PTFOING would suffer! We gotta be immune to more than HALF of the sandbox whilst we sit in a tank and watch our team get stomped!
No we can’t have proper vehicle balance whilst fixing this either, I need my safezone and btw my tank needs more health whilst keeping this problem in the game!!!! :(((
Until devs actually address the root issue instead of bandage fixing everything around it, everything that benefits said play style, directly or indirectly, will potentially be a “bigger problem”. This shouldn’t hold back what Palma is suggesting. If anything do both, fix one whilst making revives worth a damn.
main valve
Generally speaking, snipers and tanks in safe zones are not the worst thing in existence, only on some maps can they be VERY annoying
As far as that particular issue goes, it should be solved in the next update on the maps where it sucked the most
And the whole sandbag thing is another issue, mostly due to how their durability and other stuff is designed
That being said, certain issues have to be prioritied first, the safezone thing is lower priority for now
The fact that revives barely happen is shitty enough
It affects, well, literally everyone, as opposed to certain people
I mean i really need to point this out, but when a terrible suggestion like this one pops up and get decent upvotes, that ought to mean that your revive system is fucked
harsh kernel
I mean we could also buff medic alongside this too, because lets be real he needs a buff
Point is, reviving is objectively just a downgrade. Doesnt matter if respawn timers, squad spawning, whatever gets removed, I still have 0 armor and potentially low ammo I’d rather just respawn.
main valve
I mean i really need to point this out, but when a terrible suggestion like this...
Free revives, while having the option for a better one should you use a bandage, is pretty much the best option
main valve
I mean we could also buff medic alongside this too, because lets be real he need...
Tbh if he by default had faster revives than all the other classes, he would already be much better
harsh kernel
Both medics heals via medkit, and revives in general need a buff
Or maybe just have medkit be an option with bandages and give them assault’s heavy gear minus the riot shield. Point is the kit sucks and needs love/reasons to be practical
But that’s a topic for another time
main valve
Besides that, he lowkey should med box rework and a defib instead of bandages
Reason: no bleeding = no bandages needed
If the community server by chance has bleed, just have medic have the bandage like before
Solves so much shit this way
harsh kernel
Generally speaking, snipers and tanks in safe zones are not the worst thing in e...
But imo FL safezones would solve that more + allows for suggestions like this. Just get rid of the immunity, have it be damage over time that increases the longer you’re in the enemy zone whilst being able to shoot enemies in it. Make it so you cant vehicle steal either so we dont get issues like we have in invasion when defenders just drive an ATV to the attacker spawn to steal a LB
Would solve so many issues. Revive fixes, potential heal buffs. Vehicle and Sniper balance. So many topics could be revisited and hopefully properly addressed in the way people want it, as well as agreed upon more, but this tumor of a safezone has to go first otherwise people will go “well what about this situation” and 9/10 it revolves around players not being able to shoot enemies in safezone (or ig the redzone area for you e4gl players)
main valve
But imo FL safezones would solve that more + allows for suggestions like this. J...
Id be overjoyed if i could at least shoot in the red zone
But yeah i agree
Btw how long can you stay in the FL safezones before dying anyways
harsh kernel
30 seconds for final zone, but the bleed rapid increases overtime in normal zones. You usually don’t get that bleed ticking until 30 seconds in or if you’re in one of the further enemy zones (in which the latter just starts rapid bleed right away)
main valve
I see
harsh kernel
Final zone works the same was as conq just with a longer timer
mint sapphire
pepega you yap a lot yo