Weapon Stats need to be Simplified or Reworked

[untold willow]

I've been playing this game on and off, and I feel like the Attachment Stats need to be redefined. When I look at the stat, I only see green as good and red as bad, and I only go for attachments with the most green or the least negatives. I feel like this needs to be changed to make it simpler or better to understand as a casual player.

Sure you might say, but it's simple as it is right now.
But when I look at all the stats as a casual, it's a sensory overload for me.
Now this might be a bad comparison, but this versus MW3 2023, MW3 2023 has a better way to convey stats on attachments and what's good and what's bad for a weapon.
Not only that, MW3 2023 has an option for "Advanced" users to look at exactly what an attachment does for a gun. (Again this is a really flawed comparison, but it shows the difference with Stats for Attachments)

It doesn't really matter how attachments work in this game. I just want to be able to easily understand how a specific attachment works and in what situations they work best in because a stat because that there's a -0.45 on the muzzle flash scale doesn't really tell me a lot about it versus an attachment that directly tells me it eliminates the muzzle flash directly in that stats page.

Also , im not saying this should outright replace the current stat page , just that it would be helpful to just have a simplified version of that page.

If you guys arent going to be helpful with the suggestion as to make a counter arguement that is not just "do you not understand the stat values" , please dont respond as its just annoying to see that

[topaz knot]

it's not difficult to read a few numbers and words, come on
(and ngl taking cod as an example isn't a good look)

[untold willow]

The issue being that the game doesn't really convey the numbers properly for the Stats, because how am I going to see how big of a difference on an attachment like Long Barrel does to Velocity by +50, since that jump from 720 to 770 isn't that primarily big.

Like I dont see a really big difference with stats

Or something like the basic muzzle attachment that does -0.10 , that type of number doesnt really scream , this helps with recoil control.

[topaz knot]

it does though...

i get you are a casual but just testing things out in the shooting range is not that difficult

was the first thing i did when i started playing actually

and even though 0.1 doesn't seem like a big change it really is

especially for some guns some attachments work wonders at making them far more comfortable to use

also the stats page is getting a rework in the next update (please only 2 more months at most )

[untold willow]

Yeah but either way , would be grateful to have some sort of SIMPLIFIED stat page instead of showing like 15 different stats that not alot of people are going to know off the rip

[topaz knot]

of course you're not going to know everything about a game you are new to huh?

like, learn a bit

and then it should be easier

[untold willow]

Bro even then , I still dont know what attachments are good despite being like 20 hours in

[topaz knot]

attachments aren't just good or bad, they are fit for a job and others are fit for other jobs

all depends on what you want to improve on your gun

[wintry skiff]

Attachments increase or decrease a certain value, simple as that really
Do you not understand what certain stats do or...?

If thats the case i can tell you which stats do what

[trim harness]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XOPx6oB3s4

Maybe this can help explain some of the stats.

[dry arrow]

you have 20hrs, that's just the beginning, try each attachment on different weapons in short/mid/long distance, its impossible to understand how it works on each weapon by reading a graph

[untold willow]

Literally 3 of the No/X people have more than 100 hours on the game. and it funny because one they dont wanna admit its true or didnt read my suggestion carefully

[pine pilot]

I don't see why its needed at all. sure it might be nice. but if you can't understand that above zero means the effect still exists, and that green means better stat and red means worse stat, I don't know what to yell you.

[limpid bluff]

WTF its the Simpelest stat for gun in any game i play????

[wintry skiff]

I think that the simplified explanation isn't neccessary and can lead to clutter in the loadout menu.
Firstly, numbers work just fine. I cannot really understand how it's complicated to comprehend how reducing 1.25 vertical by 0.10 for example is kinda good. It's not a lot but it doesn't change the fact that it is still an upside.
Second, I get that you are a casual player, but I find it hard to believe that simplified stats save you 30 minutes of tinkering with a gun to see what works. Maybe it's just you. But BBR has a much smaller pool of customization and it won't take you more than like 10 minutes in the range to see what each grip and barrel do to a gun.
If it's hard for you to engage in a relatively simple system in BBR, idk what to tell ya.

[modern vale]

if stats get an explanation when hovering over them it should be enough

maybe add sth like r6 with the recoil

[wintry skiff]

That could be interesting

[limpid bluff]

I really dont understand that

[modern vale]

it shows how strong the recoil is. Each dot is one shot without correcting the recoil

[limpid bluff]

Its like spray pattern?

[modern vale]

not really a pattern but yeah in a sense

[sand heath]

makes sense i guess

[plain coral]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-gif-21666966

what the fuck

[dry arrow]

@untold willow

"If you guys arent going to be helpful with the suggestion as to make a counter arguement that is not just "do you not understand the stat values" , please dont respond as its just annoying to see that"

Battlebit has a more advanced explanation than MW3 regarding each weapon and equipment, you only need to understand each concept (but hey, its actually self-explained.. green = good, red = bad, so you need to read and try each combination)...

like i said before, 20h for +50 weapons with +30 combos of attachments is almost nothing

[wintry skiff]

I do have to note rq that accuracy and control are basically useless stats
Accuracy does literally nothing
Control is the speed of which the gun recenters to the, well, center of the screen (only real effect this has is marginally faster ADS speed)

[dry arrow]

if you shot long distances with an AR/LMG, accuracy becomes useful
control.. only good with scorpion and some specific guns

but tbh, i only used to care about h/v recoil, velocity and reload speed, everything else you can learn and handle it according to the situation

[wintry skiff]

In BBR, accuracy really doesnt do anything

Theres no spread or anything really

[bronze yacht]

the gun control really works,
when the control value is low, moving the gun from left to right while aiming feels slow

[wintry skiff]

Thats only you really, theres practically no difference other than marginally faster ADS in reality

And it has no real benefits other than that

Besides those 2 stats, accuracy and control, other stats work just fine for the most part (sound spread breaks when using supressors, otherwise works fine)

[wanton pebble]

Stats?

[celest axle]

You can get an idea of the stats just by playing the game. It's a learning curve and it's not even that steep