Map Aftermath - Development Report 01 - thread

[kindred rose]

who remember Old Namak D???

[brisk moat]

looks nothing like old D

[tardy crater]

Looks nice, are the buildings to the sides passable through?
Old D had issue of becoming a camp meatgrinder once one team setup well on the road and they had clear straight almost into the spawn point.

[lone quarry]

[weak jacinth]

Can't wait to play newnamak on frontline. Maps visual flair's greatly improved since launch, fingers crossed it still feels the same, tho a better map (mechanically) is better for sure.

[cyan dew]

It would be great to have some underground passages.

[pastel aspen]

Is that a brand new skybox for aftermath?

[kindred rose]

looks like yes

[kindred rose]

a little narow path from the sides on lower and upper levels , so there is 3 direction to attack like before, but on two floors at same time

[tardy crater]

That's great change then! Waiting for more

[bold cliff]

Looks great man, don’t listen to people talking bad about it. If you want some suggestions you could make barriers out of flood sand bags or even car pileups. Would make more dynamic cover for players to move around.

[opal zephyr]

it looks great, are u guys going to remake every map?

[frank moon]

Would it be possible to make the earthquake ruptures less geometric?

also the rubble piles look great and maybe should be added to other maps where there is a lack of cover

[idle forum]

Will the shapes of objective borders still be circles regardless of what is to defend on the map?

[kindred rose]

yes, there is no need to make it more complicated

[ashen tangle]

Can you added holes scattered in some of the floors, like the earthquake caused some damage but not enough to cause a full floor to collapse.

[ashen tangle]

Add disaster response units like firetrucks, Red Cross tents and other things that could be framed as response units that got abandoned due to the fighting starting here.

[mild beacon]

❤️

cool that old namak remains recognizable

also the map really needed some colour

[opal wyvern]

Looks very cool Vilkas

Would be nice to see some buildings at wonky angles

And paths/shortcuts you have to build HESCO/Tall HESCO to use

Do Old district next!

[pastel aspen]

Wasn't outskirts supposed to be a rework of old district?

[opal wyvern]

I do miss fighting over a big bunker

[idle forum]

it can actually lead to frustrating situations trying to hold a building and capture an objective but being allowed to hold certain angles or changes to certain positions because the building is only partly in the objective zone

[opal zephyr]

i agree, its a nice QOL change, but no need for it to be implemented right away with the update, it would just slow things down

[kindred rose]

yea, at least more colors than before xD

[broken tapir]

Bro things are already slowed down they’ve pushed this update back 4x now it’s been almost a year of no actually gameplay changes

[kindred rose]

lets dive in, and like in chess games - think 2 steps ahead as a developer.

You have circular objectives - you know that within X radious from objective - you will begin capturing ot.

If make a unique shapes for each objectives - its mean that in order to know if you are capable to capture it or no - you will need to open a map (due there is no minimap in game) with will make user experience less comfortable . As well as it will make not clear rules of where are you need to be standing in order to block spawn on objective.
And more problems on the way...

[opal zephyr]

the no-map feature works well with circular objective areas

[brisk moat]

🗿

[brisk moat]

yes

[glad sentinel]

Wrong

It just uses the objective layout of old district

[brisk moat]

mfw no image perms here

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[glad sentinel]

HUD in the next update will literally allow you to see which objectives are being captured or not, so not knowing if its capturable or not won't be an issue.
Second point you made about not knowing where to stand in order to capture won't be an issue at all. Current issue is that circular objectives either cover too much or too little in the point of interest it is located at. It's either big enough that I cannot be sure where the enemy is located at (inside or outside the building) or it is small enough that the enemy could be hiding in a corner waiting to recapture the objective after the majority leaves the area.
By making custom objective shapes, you would incentivise better defense of capture points and learning the intricacies of each map.

[glad sentinel]

I see

Mb

[brisk moat]

tensa d point my beloved

entire building having sight into point spawn 🔥

[kindred rose]

there will be always to much space to avoid objective spawn camping no matter of what.

[glad sentinel]

At least if its in the shape of a building i'll be able to tell if the enemy is inside or not instead of just guessing

[kindred rose]

there will be always area outside of building to not let spawn kill/grenade spam from outside.

[brisk moat]

tensa d:

[glad sentinel]

Thats the attackers problem, not the defenders one

Besides, sworce just named the perfect example of why circular points dont work

Tensa D point exists

[lone quarry]

many points would work better as a square

[idle forum]

Thats exactly why objective borders should be drawn with respect to what players need to actualy defend on the map

[ashen tangle]

^You can make a square that’s bigger than the building that’s on the point :/

Honestly custom point shapes would be really good.

Not like fully custom, but capture zones unique to the map and it’s points would be good.

[median copper]

The new office looks so good, great job @kindred rose
I do however worry how this will affect my fps when stuff starts falling a part lol

[kindred rose]

thanks.
well, stuff falling part same as before. No FPS impact on this part