New Hud Criticism

[slender escarp]

New HUD had been revealed. I like some changes but I do have my gripes.
Attached pics for added context, questions and gripes.

• Kill feed thing shouldn't be to the side, it should be below the center of the screen. Besides that, i like it.
• The number indicating the number of gadgets should be bit bigger, and some icons clearer (are these icons new guns????? Mp5k, makarov, panzerfaust????? TOILET PAPER??!?!??!?!?! Ok seriosly are these new guns?)
• Indicate which mag is in use, the way Insurgency sandstorm does it.
• Why are some icons at the bottom right gray? Why are they not white like everything else?
• Promotion notification should be fully transparent.
• Reload also should be fully transparent.
• What is the thing above the bleeding notification supposed to be? Edit: It is a tac sprint bar. Said it already but still, it must be reworked.
• Is bleeding back or just to show what it looks like when enabled?
• Bandage notification is too big.
• We need an indicator for the squad menu as well as what we can build using it, like in the old days.
• Text chat box should be higher up in the corner.
• Where is the level up progression bar? Is it removed?

For the record, this is how the entire new HUD looks like: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1269279027143643197/1269281089449361439/gamehud.png?ex=66af7da1&is=66ae2c21&hm=7dcd7b743e6123035ea52540ebd2a11c0471fc6f52821d127e7bbb45ce487341&

[delicate oriole]

Redo it completely, push the update back 6 more months.

[rugged gazelle]

For me, only the weird indicator is a bit too much

(I guess it will show where you are getting shot from)

everything else is pretty nice

[shrewd hollow]

Bleeding isn't back but it's an option for community servers so it still needs UI

[slender escarp]

That indicator is pretty fucking wack

[rugged gazelle]

I think

it might also show like the

uh

you know, when you hipfire

and you can kinda move your gun

that would kinda explain why some of it is white and some of it is dotted red line

[slender escarp]

Probably, worth asking still

@carmine jewel care to answer some of the stuff here?

[peak mural]

Imma ask terminal what the curved white red bar is. It looks like a damage indicator but, we shall see how it works

[rugged gazelle]

Imo:

1. Damage indicator
2. Hipfire gun thingy

[peak mural]

Or plama can ping him

[rugged gazelle]

Anything else wouldn't really make sense

it looks kinda too "weird" for damage indicator

[slender escarp]

Idk i dont like it at all

[rugged gazelle]

and hipfire gun thingy would be pretty accurate

[obtuse badge]

🔥

[slender escarp]

Looks excessive also

[peak mural]

[rugged gazelle]

because it seems like it's white-line size fits the hipfire gun angle

[peak mural]

I would be amazed if its related to hipfire goofy

[slender escarp]

Why didnt they go for a circle around the center of the screen if that thing is supposed to be a damage indicator?

Like every other game?

[rugged gazelle]

thats why I think it's hipfire aim assist thingy

[peak mural]

Those circle indicators suck

[obtuse badge]

thats even worse

[slender escarp]

Idk for a damage indicator (?) its uber wack

[peak mural]

Give it like a few hours for terminal to wake up. We can get an answer

[obtuse badge]

it makes 0 sense for literally anything

[slender escarp]

If this is the new one its gonna be worse than the circle one

[rugged gazelle]

@slender escarp can you add this too so we can see the whole new UI without having to go to #dev-wip

or is it too late?

[slender escarp]

Hang on i think i can

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1269279027143643197/1269281089449361439/gamehud.png?ex=66af7da1&is=66ae2c21&hm=7dcd7b743e6123035ea52540ebd2a11c0471fc6f52821d127e7bbb45ce487341&

[peak mural]

The middle of the screen is very busy but that's why the kill log has been moved. Its just a lot going on

[slender escarp]

Ok i have idea

[rugged gazelle]

When I look at the whole picture, I'm 99% positive it's hipfire assist, if it was the damage indicator then I think it would be as a part of compass on the bottom of screen

and the location of it (pretty much center of screen) would help a lot with hipfire

[peak mural]

Will to bet some nitro on it ?

[rugged gazelle]

gotta ask my sponsor @gusty surge

[slender escarp]

@rugged gazelle added

[rugged gazelle]

[slender escarp]

Now suggestion has the whole hud

[obtuse badge]

its probably stamina

[slender escarp]

Worst stamina bar ive seen

[obtuse badge]

yeah well

[shrewd hollow]

time you have before you bleed out

[gusty surge]

Youre a yapper not gambaler

[slender escarp]

It just looks terrible for whatever the hell its supposed to be

[obtuse badge]

makes barely more sense than a fuckin hipfire accuracy

[peak mural]

Just wait for an answer on it

[slender escarp]

I will, just saying, it still looks ass

[obtuse badge]

shouldnt need one but anyway

[peak mural]

Fair

[rugged gazelle]

how much you can move your gun while hipfiring is smth like that, the thingy kinda fits it in terms of size

[obtuse badge]

thats just so dumb

[rugged gazelle]

and the dotted red line could show that if you move too far you'll just look away

[peak mural]

Pattern seeking brain go brrrrr

[shrewd hollow]

bros drawing conclusions from nothing

[rugged gazelle]

it's too dumb for damage indicator

[shrewd hollow]

why tf would it be hipfire accuracy

[slender escarp]

If goofy is right about this I am leaping of the nearest skyscraper

[rugged gazelle]

it's in too bad position for damage indicator

[obtuse badge]

its fuckin stupid thats all that matters

[slender escarp]

Agreed

[rugged gazelle]

damage indicator in my opinion would be as a part of compass on the bottom of screen

[peak mural]

Alright yall enjoy arguing about that one. Lemme know when we talking about the other elements

[obtuse badge]

lets talk about ldb and prestige icons 🔥

[rugged gazelle]

so that way you could quickly get info about the exact area you're getting shot from

[slender escarp]

Prestige icons are quite something

[rugged gazelle]

like idk, getting shot from south (180 degrees)

[peak mural]

Yeah I duno what's going on there

Visual cohesion non existent with the prestige icons

[slender escarp]

Wouldnt the circular damage indicators do the same thing better?

[shrewd hollow]

thats stupid

[rugged gazelle]

imo thats where damage indicator would be

[gusty surge]

🔥

[rugged gazelle]

(le paint master)

[obtuse badge]

😍

[slender escarp]

This do be nice

[gusty surge]

Def not hipfire

[hearty fog]

Could it be for holding your breath when using a sniper rifle.

[gusty surge]

No way they add hipfire UI stuff

[obtuse badge]

nice 4x4 pixels on the prestige icons

[slender escarp]

Regardless of what it is, it still looks terrible

[rugged gazelle]

imo it just makes sense, especially because of the weird red dot line and the fact that it's like pin-point accurate with the triangle and it's placement in the middle of screen

[shrewd hollow]

makes more sense then what everyone else is saying

[peak mural]

Oki is holding an m4. Not a sniper

[gusty surge]

Accessibility setting

[slender escarp]

Idk dev build, perhaps testing?

[gusty surge]

[obtuse badge]

this is so dumb eeeeeeeee

[rugged gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/клоун-gif-13031758617125701370

@shrewd hollow

[slender escarp]

I mean bleed is there too

[rugged gazelle]

I accept clown emojis only from Wedzol the clown meister

[shrewd hollow]

that aug is also apparently an AKS 74U so we can assume they are adding things to the UI just to show it off

[slender escarp]

Its clearly an indicator

But fuck man it looks soo bad

[obtuse badge]

clearly gaslighting us regardless

[peak mural]

Imma wait for an explanation as to what it is and yes its all work in progress.

[obtuse badge]

10/10 ui if no one can tell tf is going on

[slender escarp]

Also are they really renaming the ak74 into an aks74u

[peak mural]

Or its the weapon the player they killed is using.

[rugged gazelle]

[rugged gazelle]

or funni leak

[obtuse badge]

please kill me if this is true

[shrewd hollow]

i really hope not because why would that information be directly in my face

[slender escarp]

I mean i aint complaining i like aks

[slender escarp]

Ok thats stupid

[peak mural]

[slender escarp]

Im sorry but we literally have a death screen for that

[rugged gazelle]

Hold AUG
Kill with AKSu
Icon shows something like MP5

[slender escarp]

I think thats a kitted ump lmao

[rugged gazelle]

could be

[slender escarp]

Idk icon looks weird

Also

[rugged gazelle]

RPG icon looks like Panzerfaust

[slender escarp]

I was about to ask that

[obtuse badge]

mp5

still

[slender escarp]

I hate that rpg icon

[obtuse badge]

10/10 cinema

[rugged gazelle]

Just highlight the currently loaded mag with green color

[gusty surge]

Toilet paper

[obtuse badge]

so true

toilet paper bandages

[rugged gazelle]

ducktape

[slender escarp]

"Cover me im wiping my ass"

[rugged gazelle]

Toilets update confirmed

[obtuse badge]

where the squad point display fr fr

[peak mural]

Red and greens are a very common colorblind combo

[shrewd hollow]

probably in the squad menu

[slender escarp]

Or right

[obtuse badge]

didnt show it so not real

🔥

[slender escarp]

I should add that criticism

[obtuse badge]

just make hud customizable so i can solve half the problems by fuckin removing the hud

[peak mural]

More dev time!

[obtuse badge]

this is truly one of the huds of all time

[peak mural]

So the questions are. What's the curved indicator, why do the weapon icons and kill information not line up

[slender escarp]

They said its subject to change, and i am suggesting changes

[peak mural]

What else?

[slender escarp]

Its taken into account when they say that

[slender escarp]

Read suggestion i put all me gripes there

[peak mural]

[slender escarp]

Hey wait a minute

[peak mural]

[gusty surge]

[slender escarp]

Theres no level up line thing at the very bottom

Where is it

[obtuse badge]

i killed it

[gusty surge]

It is pretty pointless

[obtuse badge]

so is like half the changes

so its fitting

[slender escarp]

Kinda nice to know how close i am to leveling up yknow

[gusty surge]

Nobody uses that bar

Source: Me

Check it after match ends

[slender escarp]

Im using it

You source is wrong

[gusty surge]

You're not real

Creation of imagination

[slender escarp]

You arent real either

[gusty surge]

Build menu missing

How am I supposed to know I can build if no UI for it?

[slender escarp]

We are mere figments of someone elses imagination

[shrewd hollow]

s

[gusty surge]

s

[slender escarp]

s

[slender escarp]

I have put it in my suggestion as a gripe

[rugged gazelle]

just prepare some assets and give option to move them all so everyone can customize their own hud

[slender escarp]

If bo6 is allowing that bbr should too

[obtuse badge]

so i can delete half the shit because its aids*

[slender escarp]

Whats the most aids part to you

[obtuse badge]

small shit spammed

[slender escarp]

Tad more specific

Pretty please

[peak mural]

What... does that mean for those of us who aren't sworce

[slender escarp]

I just relised they also moved the vc indicator thing above the squad list

[peak mural]

[slender escarp]

Dunno how to feel abt that

[tawny nimbus]

Idk, the bandages on the new HUD look like a roll of toilet paper

they could save a lot of space if there was only an icon of blood drops without the text. like its obvious, who needs explanation? then they could move it to the left from crosshair, for example.

[slender escarp]

I mean would be nice as an option to do that

By default its fine

[wind pumice]

The UI is fine but these icons are actually terribly uninformative and busy

Hoping they're placeholder

[tawny nimbus]

as an idea developers can make it so that all elements of the HUD would be customizable and the player community will find the best option ))))

[wind pumice]

Unfortunately the squad member UI and prestige icons suggest otherwise

[obtuse badge]

prestige icons 😭

[slender escarp]

Lets not talk about those

Not here at least

[slender escarp]

Icon for mines looks fine

[peak mural]

It was the tac sprint meter!

[slender escarp]

Rpg one (?) is just bad

Bandages are eh

[wind pumice]

Bandages are a straight loss

[gusty surge]

[wind pumice]

It's not that intuitive that they're your heal resource or even a revive resource

And the weapons are too thin for their size

Made smaller by suppressors or whatever else

[slender escarp]

Source?

Nvm i saw the source

[obtuse badge]

ok so

why is it backwards

🗿

[sudden bison]

That's a rpg ?

[obtuse badge]

yes

[sudden bison]

Tf

Thought it was a flare

[obtuse badge]

bruh its a gadget

[sudden bison]

I see

[obtuse badge]

this hud doing numbers

[tawny nimbus]

its actually Panzerfaust xD

[sudden bison]

Oh

[rugged gazelle]

TOLD Y'ALL

[slender escarp]

Its terrible, very stinky

[rugged gazelle]

TOLD Y'ALL IT'S PANZERFAUST AND NOT RPG

[rugged gazelle]

what if...

[sudden bison]

Bbr WW2 incoming?

[rugged gazelle]

it's another engineer gadget leak?

HOLY

We just need to figure out which panzerfaust it is

[slender escarp]

Im losing my shit

[rugged gazelle]

looks like panzerfaust 30

[tawny nimbus]

and to me mp5 on HUD looks like mp5k

[rugged gazelle]

yup

MP5K with suppressor

[tawny nimbus]

*one more leak

[rugged gazelle]

I wish we had MP5SD 😭

[slender escarp]

Thats just same gun

Like

Why

[rugged gazelle]

MP5K shoots faster

and has smaller barrel

[slender escarp]

Interesting

[wind pumice]

Maybe they are just placeholder

Hmmm

[rugged gazelle]

MP5 is 800 rpm and mp5k is 900rpm

and 115mm barrel vs 225mm barrel

Oki please, MP5SD

[slender escarp]

We really need terminal to answer shit here

[delicate oriole]

Wowie zowie how unique and interesting

[tawny nimbus]

they said, they have a a team for HUD. mb thoes new guys dont know a shit about guns. or oki just teasing us

[rugged gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/amen-gif-23345354

[slender escarp]

From what i understood oki made this hud with the UI guy

[wind pumice]

The panzer Faust is in the player icon style

[delicate oriole]

The mp5k is different but ngl this also reminds me of the way people beg for the devs to add yet another variation of an ar15 or ak which will be slightly different cosmetically with practically no other differences.

[wind pumice]

So idk

[wind pumice]

Bc it is

[slender escarp]

This, it just doesnt make sense

Its a relativly minor variation

[rugged gazelle]

AKS74U leak, MP5K leak, Panzerfaust leak, toilet paper (bandage) leak (possible toilets update?)

[slender escarp]

Like

[rugged gazelle]

can anyone check if the pistol icon is something we have in game?

[slender escarp]

But panzerfaust makes no sense

[delicate oriole]

Like nooooo you guys don’t understand, we need the AK12 because uhhhhhh it’s different okay it is it is

[slender escarp]

Sorta is but whatever ak12 stupid

Dont want ak12

[obtuse badge]

ak15 and rpk:

[delicate oriole]

Yes there are obviously differences between them irl but in terms of what they will add to the game? Practically zero.

[wind pumice]

Nuh uh

[delicate oriole]

Guys we need an m16a1 and also m16a4 and also a car15 and an m27 iar and also a mk18 and also and also uhhh we need the uhh URG-I m4 okay these are vital additions to the game

[slender escarp]

Can someone explain what would the ingame difference of a panzerfaust and rpg even be like

[rugged gazelle]

M82 Barrett, Hecate and AK-50

[slender escarp]

Why would i choose one over the other

Theoretically

I can write

Fuck

[rugged gazelle]

lower range, more damage against vehicles?

[delicate oriole]

Wehraboos get to cosplay and claim it’s superior

[tawny nimbus]

your are god damn right... its makarov 9mm. oooh maa gush. leaks leaks leaks are everywhere

[rugged gazelle]

holy shit

[slender escarp]

I knew it

[tawny nimbus]

i am losing my head

[rugged gazelle]

AKS74U leak, MP5K leak, Panzerfaust leak, toilet paper (bandage) leak (possible toilets update?), Makarov leak

[slender escarp]

@carmine jewel

Please answer our questions

There is too much here we need answers

[obtuse badge]

💀

[rugged gazelle]

So:
-devcast delayed
+we got some info
-we lack explanation and answers

[slender escarp]

+new guns???????????

[tawny nimbus]

@slender escarp put this in your post like "potential new weapons: aks74u, mp5k, makarov 9mm, Panzerfaust, roll of toilet papaer ?!"

[rugged gazelle]

either toilet paper or ducktape

[slender escarp]

One sec

[rugged gazelle]

also I though the mine icon looks like cinamon roll

[slender escarp]

#1269279027143643197 message

[tawny nimbus]

leaked skins for mines?

[slender escarp]

I dont mind the mine icon

Me like it

[wind pumice]

It's fine

[rugged gazelle]

it reminds me of that one video I saw where some dudes made roomba look like anti vehicle mine

[slender escarp]

Amyways added this

[rugged gazelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1pUDcEAKuw

[slender escarp]

"Welcome to the jungle, we got fun and games" 🔥🔥🔥

[tawny nimbus]

saw this, yeah he is genius

[lusty cave]

why does the new scoreboard still only show kills and deaths :(

[rugged gazelle]

it's offtopic so it will be last thing - still, the thing that made me laugh the most on 4chan was when dude decided to make chlorine gas in his bathtub to test if gasmask is working...

[tawny nimbus]

wtf?! no hope in this world

[slender escarp]

What else do you need?

[slender escarp]

Kek

[lusty cave]

dunno revives, healing and other supportive stats would be kinda nice

not everyone is just going for kills

[rugged gazelle]

@tawny nimbus dms

[slender escarp]

Not enough space

[lusty cave]

beside I don't need to know how many ms my teammates have the symbol alone is enough (or show ms if I hover over the symbol if you think ms are important ) and the score itself also has a lot of space

you could easily fit one or two extra stats in there

a squad based game that only rewards ppl that go for kills is weird

[tawny nimbus]

number of captured points would be nice to have in score board. mb revives. amount of healing would take a lot o space. but at the and of the game you still have a board with top 5 in each category. soo idk is it needed

[slender escarp]

Guess theres space for revives

Dunno abt healing and ammo supply tho

Their values are borked, could take up too much

[tawny nimbus]

anyway TAB score board is sorted by score, so I had a game with like 10 kills (32vs32 rush) and top 3 in my team by score because of revives and healing done - was enough for me, its ok.

[lusty cave]

ye but I don't see how many I have if I don't end up top 5. Am I top 6 or top 30? Who knows

[lusty cave]

that's why I said supportive stats. You could sum all the class based supportive points into one category

[slender escarp]

Ah, ya shouldve clarified that

[lusty cave]

makes no sense to me why we only have kills and deaths and an inflated score

[slender escarp]

I suppose that could work

[lusty cave]

I hope they atleast changed it that challenge xp will no longer show up in the score

but I doubt it

[slender escarp]

Idk

Would be very nice

Dunno if fixed

Lemme check

[carmine jewel]

Bro let me wake up please

[slender escarp]

Ok i let you wake up

But we need answers

[gusty surge]

no

[carmine jewel]

I agree. Let me get some coffee and get organized and I’ll go through them

[surreal dew]

looking at the whole image i was thinking "oh this actually looks pretty nice on an art style level" and then the more i looked the more confused i got and realized how incredibly cluttered it is

especially with what palma noted with the panzerfaust wtf is up with that

[slender escarp]

Clarified some stuff in my suggestion, should be bit more readable now

[slender escarp]

Yeah its got too much clutter in the center of the screen

Probably looks cluttered to show off all the elements, however, the elements are no good and are kinda confusing

Also uhh probably not good when they are all present under the right circumstances

[sudden bison]

Term what's up with the panzerfaust?
Bbr WW2?

[rugged gazelle]

yes

[sudden bison]

Xd

[slender escarp]

We shall wait

[rugged gazelle]

panzerfaust added to fit MG3/42

[slender escarp]

He is here looking at all the questions

We will get answers

Also 2 other things

SCROLL WHEEL FOR TEXT CHAT

And ability to hide it with H

Neat

I can finally see what others said

[rugged gazelle]

tbh the bandage thingy

it should be this big because often it's hard to tell if someone's bandaging you

[slender escarp]

I think the box helps

But man its too big

Keep it boxed in like that

But make it smaller

[sudden bison]

Also why is the chat so far down?
It should be in the corner

[slender escarp]

I will add that

[sudden bison]

Nice

[slender escarp]

Added

#1269279027143643197 message

Someone double check this in case i missed something or want added

Im off to play deep rock galactic

[willow prism]

I wont address every single point individually but I did send your criticism to our UI person.

[twilit knoll]

[rugged gazelle]

a.k.a OKI

[willow prism]

The questions terminal will get to

[slender escarp]

Terms gonna do the adressing

[willow prism]

If I ment Oki I would have said Oki

[slender escarp]

But yeah, this be much apreciated

[sudden bison]

The 'RELOAD' icon should be transparent as well

[lusty cave]

is the ui person responsible for all the new ui changes?

[slender escarp]

Will add

[slender escarp]

Oki is working with UI person, so yeah both responsible kinda

[lusty cave]

working with is 50/50 or oki says do that and he works alone?

[slender escarp]

One sec lemme find message

#battlebit-eng message

[lusty cave]

hm

[rugged gazelle]

I'll just add it in there so it's not lost

the prestige icons are overcomplicated and kinda make no sense

Imo they should be more like military insignias, just take a look at some already existing ones and create your own

maybe battlebit logo as core part?

a.k.a this thing

because if we already have something this complicated, just imagine what will happen in future once we get more prestige levels

[twilit knoll]

im lost

[rugged gazelle]

we're so done

[silent stratus]

Honestly this should be right above the compass

There's no reason for it not to

Agree that the gadget amount indicators is too small or needs more clarity

Honestly, just use BF4's HUD

[willow prism]

@rugged gazelle @slender escarp Those icons are placeholders by the way, just so you know.

[willow prism]

That will be changed anyway

[twilit knoll]

figured as much. but i still bet that the complete mismatching of said placeholders is done in a tactical way to troll us

[silent stratus]

👌 Hope i didn't come off as aggressive

[willow prism]

No worries :P

[rugged gazelle]

I hope so

thanks for info tho

[willow prism]

yw

[sudden bison]

What icons? The new prestige ones ?
They should keep the old ones and stop wasting time on shit like this or at least make them readable from the leaderboard

[willow prism]

Understood. Also, the order in the announcement was wrong in terms of what prestige would correspond to what icon

just to clarify that

[slender escarp]

The HUD icons for guns and all right?

Nvm saw the message in general

[silent stratus]

Hijacking thread, what if the player class was displayed like this instead? (Left ofc)

[wind pumice]

Well, good to hear the icons are placeholder but also dawg if this adds another week I'm dead

[silent stratus]

Gives the scoreboard some color to break from all the white

[wind pumice]

It's alr next to the K/D

And that greens pretty bleh

[silent stratus]

Bro you don't think do you?

[wind pumice]

Ok, but also it's fine being next to the K/D

[silent stratus]

It just feels dumb being there tbh, with all that empty space and shit 🤷

[wind pumice]

Makes up for people with long usernames

IE when you're on streamer mode

I think if you need to put something there, it should be first letter of the squad

You can color code it to include friend/squadmate asw

[silent stratus]

Prolly

Maybe instead of the green could be team color, cause i just copied it from the class icons in the hud 🤷

[wide sinew]

The kill distance being added to kill feed/screen is a welcome change. Will echo that I wish other stats were on the scoreboard (captures most important imo)

[slender escarp]

Unhijack this thread

[carmine jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/taking-notes-kingofbayst-wes-hall-dragons-den-writing-gif-24572885

[rough canyon]

Wonder if there's any chance to always have the squad leader of the sqaud to be on top of the squad list

[ruby bloom]

heres my take on this topic

The number indicating the number of gadgets should be bit bigger, and some icons clearer (are these icons new guns????? Mp5k, makarov, panzerfaust????? TOILET PAPER??!?!??!?!?! Ok seriosly are these new guns?)
Yes and no. theres no really good answer if the number should be larger or smaller. imo, better hud customizability is the answer. if you don't like how small the number is then enlarge it, if not reduce it. and yes i agree the icon should be clearer like the rpg, it looks too small imo. i believe the grenade should only be shown. [ref: icon]
Indicate which mag is in use, the way Insurgency sandstorm does it.
it should be common sense at this point which mag is in use. the farthest right and its also not a bad thing to enlarge the current mag icon little larger.
Why are some icons at the bottom right gray? Why are they not white like everything else?
i like this design, it lets the player know which weapon/gadget is in use. its less confusing and its helpful for new players.
Promotion notification should be fully transparent.
this one is a hot take. idk if it should be fully transparent or not. how would the player know if they ranked up if theres no indicator. i think the ui designer should give players more options on how the promotion is displayed (like center bottom, small, big, transparency) [ref: reference2, center-bottom]
Reload also should be fully transparent.
again i think some hud elements should be customizable, some people may like it full transpareny and some dont
Bandage notification is too big.
i agree with this one. it looks too big. customizable hud scaling should be implemented

and yeah the new hud is an improvent, very good, clean and non confusing. i like it. good work

right now, lets recognize on what should be improved and how it can be improved instead of criticizing without providing suggestions or solutions.

[slender escarp]

1. It should be larger cause, y'know, people may want to know exactly how much stuff they currently have without squinting? Besides that, it was clarified to me that the current icons are mostly placeholders, so it's subject to change. Either way, the RPG icon should remain relativly the same as the current one, as it is overall pretty clear that what you are carrying is infact a RPG.
2. It is meant for newer players. Back when I started, I remember being confused about which mag was in use, the farthest left or right one (some of the games I played went for one of those ways of displaying mags). You learn it quick sure, but having what is essentially just a line above/below the mag is pretty damn harmless for acclimating newer players as fast as possible.
3. People have eyes and can see what the player character is holding in their hands. It's just unnecessary and given it's color, also reduces readability of both the icon itself and the button you are meant to press. And that doesn't even explain why the mag combing and laser on/off icons are also grayed out.
4. When I say to make it transparent, I meant removing that gray box the notification is in. That notification does not need to stand out that much (unlike the captured flag notification, which can currently be easily missed).
5. Same as the level up one, not saying to remove the whole thing, just the box it is in. There is literally no need for the box to exist at all.

Also, HUD customization is a seperate topic and is not the end all be all for poor HUD design still. First impressions still matter.

[silent stratus]

Im blind asf and i already struggle reading the current icons lmao

[slender escarp]

Ya exactly, icons should be readable ffs

Making them gray and all is not helping

[obtuse badge]

Fr just steal bf4 or 5 hud

[long pivot]

I think it's a great improvement. Always time to improve after we use it for a bit. And fwiw, immediately starting the gripe train after seeing behind the curtain is a great reason for them to never share anything.

[silent stratus]

People just love to bitch

[obtuse badge]

So wait till operation overhaul so everyone can bitch about it yeah good idea

[slender escarp]

Are we not meant to give feedback to what we are given

[dry tree]

How do i move to top on mobile

[slender escarp]

I will help you

https://discord.com/channels/303681520202285057/1269279027143643197

Shit

[dry tree]

Doesn't work

[rugged gazelle]

epic fail

[slender escarp]

#1269279027143643197 message

Ok this will work

[dry tree]

Yeah

[lusty cave]

mobile is stupid

[slender escarp]

Indeed

[silent stratus]

How do i even do that on desktop lmao

[lusty cave]

scroll

[silent stratus]

https://tenor.com/9CWv.gif

[lusty cave]

pls give us some more stats and prestige icons you can see
Revives, Support (Healing, Ammo, Repairs, Spotting), Points, Kills, Deaths

[silent stratus]

What you gonna do with those stats?

[wide sinew]

Stats that contribute to the win condition of the game (more specifically, things that directly affect tickets) should be accessible. Don't think anything else should be there in game.

[wide sinew]

flame shitters

[silent stratus]

I agree with this

[lusty cave]

so points and revives?

and in broader sense support?

[wide sinew]

what do you mean by points? Like captures?

and no not support

[sudden bison]

The current leaderboard is laggy as fuck, adding more stats doesn't really help.
But if they fix it, then sure why not

[wide sinew]

we haven't seen new end game screen yet right? Or even if its changing. Feel like a lot could change there.

[silent stratus]

Only thing i really disliked from the last dev stream

Was the rounded containers, it doesn't fit with the rest of the UI that's all sharp corners

[lusty cave]

true

[buoyant meadow]

oh christ what the fuck is this

why is it so busy
why are ther colours

[willow prism]

Oh in case it wasn't clear yet: It is intentionally filled with almost all the possible indicators showing on screen as the same time

Otherwise it would be hard to capture in one screenshot

[buoyant meadow]

I realise but just the stuff around the centre of the screen is strange

why's the xp off to the side

[willow prism]

Understood. Though another remark that wasn't mentioned that is good to point out, is that this is being moved/reworked

So ignore that

[buoyant meadow]

is the you are being bandaged at the same height as it is now? because it feels like it's higher up altough that might just be the box

[willow prism]

Not entirely sure. Haven't spoken to the UI designer about this

but I think it's more ment as a rough mockup, so I would take the exact locations of things with a grain of salt

problem with this being 1 screenshot is also that you cant show multiple indicators in the exact same location on 1 screnshot

[buoyant meadow]

promotion and bandaging boxes should be smaller

[buoyant meadow]

they could be on screen at the same time in game so gotta check all possibilities

objective lost is good, maybe people will pay attention to it
chat should be in top left or the position of it should be adjustable

compass is nice and readable
reload shouldn't have a box around it or at least a more transparent one

[slender escarp]

Yeah level up and reload shouldnt be boxed in

[silent stratus]

I feel that level up is too big

[buoyant meadow]

a bit yes, and it doesn't need the box
you can bring attention to it with a sound not size

[silent stratus]

mhm

I like Bf's

You have been
PROMOTED
[ Rank Here ]

Or simply promoted + rank without all the extra fanfare tbh

[slender escarp]

We are yet to see how the elements would actually move and shit yknow

Like how they pop up and all

May end up not being very intrusive

[silent stratus]

Yeah

[buoyant meadow]

this with a fade in expansion from the middle out maybe

[silent stratus]

This looks crisp asf btw

i love it

[slender escarp]

Same

[buoyant meadow]

or just promoted with rank name and lvl

[silent stratus]

hmm, they mentioned the possible addition of more factions in the future right?

[buoyant meadow]

like who?

[slender escarp]

Subfactions

[silent stratus]

Ah subfactions

[slender escarp]

Basically, faction in a faction

[silent stratus]

Caues i was thinking "I mean sure but that means they'll have to lock guns to be faction specific, otherwise there's no point"

[slender escarp]

Oh boy do i have a suprise for you

[silent stratus]

https://tenor.com/bDdai.gif

[peak mural]

[slender escarp]

Please hold i am attempting to find the message in question

Why does this happen to me

[silent stratus]

Not alone man

Moment I need something I can't find it, but when I don't I know exactly where it is

[peak mural]

Are you looking for the new faction comment from vils?

[slender escarp]

Im looking for this thing i saw a good bit back where they would lock guns to each faction once enough guns are added

[peak mural]

ah

I musta missed that one

[slender escarp]

Also cant find the subfaction one

[peak mural]

I also am unfamiliar with that one

[slender escarp]

Think they said that basically new factions would be like a part of a bigger faction or something?

Idk i really cant find it

[peak mural]

Does not ring any bells

[slender escarp]

But ik ive seen it somewhere

[peak mural]

was it in a dream

[silent stratus]

kek

[slender escarp]

Twas real i swear

[silent stratus]

Sure thing bud, let's get you back to the hospital

[buoyant meadow]

someone come get their grandpa

[slender escarp]

I cant be losing it man

I saw one of them statements from someone idk who

#1222595226137530508 message

There we go

Ik i saw sum like that somewhere

[silent stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-guy-senior-walker-gif-7660497

[peak mural]

You got a source other than devildogg?

Cause people make shit up

[slender escarp]

I wish

But i can rest easy knowing i at least saw it

[peak mural]

I am not going to give any weight to that statement then.

Fair, you arent crazy

[slender escarp]

Did think there was more abt it

Oh well

[buoyant meadow]

most reliable source ever

https://tenor.com/view/ace-attorney-phoenix-wright-objection-capcom-gif-20965907

hearsay

[silent stratus]

Last update is shotgun DLC

[slender escarp]

Im heading to sleep just ping termi and ask him abt this or something for a definitive answer

Not gonna look through messages again

[proper bear]

literally in the pinned tab

[peak mural]

Those comments I am aware of, and none of them are "sub factions" as palma stated, nor do i see anything about weapon locking.

[wide sinew]

There was a mention about having faction specific loadouts in a recent devcast. Not the same as weapon locking but maybe where wires are being crossed

[proper bear]

faction specific loadouts = weapon locking

[obtuse badge]

If I see weapon locking someone's dying

[peak mural]

If you mean the last dev cast jd, that was in reference to explaining what the settings option do. "Share loadout" was not something most people understood

[wide sinew]

ahh

[peak mural]

https://youtu.be/NXHwSDrmvjY?t=792 Just to clear it all up

[wide sinew]

the two new subfactions for the US are discord yappers and reddit users

[peak mural]

|| #battlebit-eng message||

[obtuse badge]

Goofy ahh wannabe vtubers

[wind pumice]

this got reworked into just new uniforms pretty sure

[proper bear]

that was pre-launch

they are looking for faction specific now

well, eventually, not now

[wind pumice]

now?

[proper bear]

specifically when the aresenal is not so small

[wind pumice]

the last statement they made was that uniforms from japan and china were getting added and that was kinda it

[wind pumice]

now if only I could unlink the desert and forrest camos on same faction

[gusty surge]

[wraith gulch]

what even was the point in changing this like i cant see a problem with the old hud

[lusty cave]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[past ridge]

just got to hope the settings to turn off any of the on screen noise/ clutter they think are improvements is there day one of the update. 👀