If teammate(s) within short distance, add a timer before being able to give up

[nocturne crypt]

Many players tend to give up as soon as they are downed, even if their teammates are nearby and trying to revive them. This not only wastes tickets but also discourages others from attempting to revive the player.

Implementing a brief delay before allowing players to give up could help reduce these instances.

Here's an example: if a teammate is within 10 meters when you're getting downed, the give-up button is disabled for 7 seconds. If teammates are outside this range, this rule won't apply and nothing will change. The timer won't re-apply even if someone gets closer afterwards.

If you you are downed again shortly after getting revived, the timer does not take effect, to prevent possible loops of dying and getting revived without being able to break free.

[brittle gate]

Should add a variable if the teammate is in combat (taking shots)

The teammate most likely won't be able to revive you

[nocturne crypt]

that's implying that the combat will last forever and that they might not expose themselves to drag you behind cover

The timer would start as soon as you get downed, and won't restart again if someone gets in range, probably should make that clearer

[shell coral]

• give the option to give up anyway and get 7seconds respawn timer

[plain patrol]

Call for medic is being added that will give a ui notification and slow your bleed out timer. A forced no bleed out with additional combat/teammate checks feels a little over kill comparatively

[brittle gate]

The thing is, he wants people to stop giving up whislist people nearby gonna revive or not

The call for medic only gonna help people who wanna be revived

[plain patrol]

I ascribe to teaching players to be smarter, intead of forcing them, where possible. this is a totally valid method to stopping people from bleeding out when they are resable, i like the call for medic option more is all

[brittle gate]

We could have both tho, who knows

[fresh eagle]

Why dont they just add back the feature medic had where you could ping a dead player to let them know you are coming

[gritty lodge]

Force revive is a dumb mechanic that causes noobs to do stupid things for potentially bad revives that wastes everyone’s time. This was brought up when originally considered vs what we have coming now (call for medic to wait, space to give up)

You can not convince me that having a forced mechanic is beneficial to anyone in a casual setting, where the game aspires to thrive in.

[fresh eagle]

Agreed

Another thing is that some unintentionally give up because they dont know somebody is coming for them in the first place

This happens to me a lot, i start giving up only for someone to come to me in the last second when its too late

[fresh eagle]

Thats why i suggested this

Could probably make it available to everyone

But medic would have the ability to ping ppl thru walls (i mean they can already see dead people thru walls so why not), while others are limited to line of sight only

[proud lantern]

We are adding the feature to call a medic when you are down. While holding E your timer will slow down and a ping will be placed over you for medics to see.

[sudden moth]

I want the "I'm Coming to help" button back

it helped with healing too, since alot of players would stop running away

[plain patrol]

The take away from this thread so far is that, there are many other layers that need attention around resing independent of the res timer itself.

Root causes can be hard to dig out, but, i dont think the bleed out timer is the final stop.

[fresh eagle]

Agreed

[nocturne crypt]

I don't even know what's the point of the revive mechanic anymore. Half the time when I'm in the process of reviving someone, they give up before the progress bar could finish.

Why even bother trying?

[gritty lodge]

Imma be real if my armor is shredded to shit, I don’t have that much ammo, or if my body is in a bad position - giving up is the easiest way to communicate that without language barriers getting in the way

There is a point to it, but only if the situation allows for it and the player would directly benefit from it (which in a decent chunk if cases an offensive styled player does not)

Mainly because of how you can’t repair armor currently, but also mags if you’re mag dumping (vs normal reload)

Imo information needs to be better relayed to the medic if it’s even worth revivng someone to begin with. If im down to just a single pistol mag or whatever and my armor is toast, there’s no way to determine that on the medic’s end and they just go for it assuming you have all of that when you often times might not.

More information to some extent = good, as long as its not info overload, it helps the medic make their decision on revives

forcing a wait time mechanic just because someone is near you but is behind a sandbag (or whatever cover), or is clearly going for a shitty revive that gets you both killed = bad and leads to player frustration and griefing (intentional or not)

[shell coral]

good thing we are getting just that in the new update (if it ever comes out)

[gritty lodge]

Soon™️

[fresh eagle]

Well part of that is kinda getting better by proxy (armor not a resource to worry about), plus we get the medic ping

Another thing to help this is to give medic antinades

Part of the reason why i dont want revives in some cases is because i will die multiple times in the same area due to nade spam

Giving medic the ability to partially secure it would help greatly

Obviously, medic shouldnt overshadow support in that aspect (securing an area), but i am for giving like 1 or 2 antinades

And for the love of god let support put down 5 antinades at the same time instead of 4

Why give me the ability carry 5 when i cant use said 5 at the same time

[shell coral]

why is 5 instead of 4 so important?

In case one gets destroyed

[fresh eagle]

Ok but why cant i place 5 at the same time

[shell coral]

balance reasons? oki coding?

idk

[fresh eagle]

Could understand the limit if it was able to stop c4 or some shit

Given it doesnt

Why oki

[shell coral]

maybe support Was meant to carry 4

[fresh eagle]

Perhaps

I still want 5

[gritty lodge]

Tbh trophy needs to despawn on death before we get anywhere close to “potential changes to the gadget” but probably best for another suggestion thread

[shell coral]

it doesn't?

[plain patrol]

correct

[gritty lodge]

Exactly why most think it’s OP, among other things but that’s a big one. You can place it down and just not have to worry about placing them again upon dying

[shell coral]

ppl keep placing mines next to them so it doesn't matter anyway

[fresh eagle]

Not really

What is OP about them is destroying grenades through walls and being able to sandwhich them between sandbags

[shell coral]

that is fixed in the next update

[plain patrol]

[Citation needed]

[shell coral]

or atleast it should be oki noted that a while ago

[fresh eagle]

If so, thats good

[plain patrol]

I know its been reported but i havent seen a confirmation of a fix yet, if so, id like to add it to, THE NOTES

[shell coral]

let me search it

[fresh eagle]

Removal of those 2 is fine

But making it so that they despawn when dead is not ok

[shell coral]

#game-bugs message

[plain patrol]

Many things are noted, hoping we see a "yes its fixed" some where along the line. thank you for looking for it

[gritty lodge]

They kinda have to because it ties into other gadget related bugs (having more C4/mines then intended)

I mean it’s either this or make it so they can’t be picked up

[fresh eagle]

Pretty sure that one is fixed cause i reported that lmao

[gritty lodge]

We shall see

[fresh eagle]

Couldnt have gotten that damascus otherwise

[plain patrol]

There are other, metaphorical buttons, that can be pressed to fix that bug. Removing object permanence isnt the only way

[fresh eagle]

Assuming pepega is refering to the gadget dupe thing

Yeah that shouldve been fixed then