4th weapon type for Recon

[lyric stag]

I have been going over this way too much on one channel here- please give Recon 4th weapon class like every other class has.
Since irl sniper teams are two people of which the spotter partner gets a PDW or SMG I hope Recon gets to access at least SMGs (as the other one would be to give them a Carbine, turning things to mid-short even more than BattleRifles)

[warm lion]

team work with recons

[elfin merlin]

Recon should have SMGs, PDWs, and snipers

I will die on this hill

[tepid peak]

Obligatory “basing balance on IRL is objectively stupid”

[merry spindle]

Recon already has BRs, 3 of which are very much usable close to mid range

[bleak sleet]

Lets be honest, it's not like anyone will be picking PDW or SMG on recon over assault, unless they doing something very specificly devious

[tepid peak]

If they do that it’s mainly for drone tbh

That being said it’s just.. why? The BRs do fine as is and recon should mainly be scouting/supporting (taking out key targets and marking)

[bleak sleet]

"key targets = Anyone you see
"marking" =

[tepid peak]

I mean spotting could be better but lets be real a good recon is one who either knows how to support their team with sniper fire or mark enemies/act as a UAV

and possibly drone bomb armor for chat reactions

[drowsy tartan]

I don’t think Recon needs any other weapon category, what it currently has is plenty workable for the roles its kit excels at

[bleak sleet]

DMR

[warm lion]

me when assault dmrs

[worn tangle]

He need a crossbow or a bow or something it could be cool

[warm lion]

yeah totally makes sense in a modern shooter

[bleak sleet]

Even battlefield had bow in that one dlc

[hexed marsh]

bows would actually be somewhat effective damage wise. good luck getting training on it

[bleak sleet]

60 damage max

cant kill with headshot

Cuz it would be a shotgun close range

[hexed marsh]

what are you on about?

[bleak sleet]

Snipers got their 1x scopes removed because people would use them close range and basically "use them as shotguns, but hit the head only"

So the addition of Bows would be interesting

"Damage wise"

[hexed marsh]

what does that have to do with IRL?

I never even gave a number to your dumbass

[merry spindle]

I would sure love seeing a guy walk away with a big arrow sticking out of his head

[bleak sleet]

[hexed marsh]

even then, I didn't use recon at first, didn't even know snipers had 1x's.

[bleak sleet]

.50 cal blocked by a metal plate (exo helmet)

[merry spindle]

They still do techically

Sv98 has pkas 1x

Rest have canted and top red dots

[bleak sleet]

Also 50 cal vs 2 steel beams

Also the 3rd steel beam

I'm pretty sure arrow in the head wouldn't be too weird

[hexed marsh]

some helmets can take a hit from a .50

soldier ain't gonna love it though

[merry spindle]

Was about to say that

Soldier aint having a good time

But from a gameplay standpoint

[warm lion]

giving recon anything that rewards their current behaviour shouldn't happen

[merry spindle]

Bows/crossbows are pretty gimmicky, so not having 1 tap headshot capabilities would be quite crippling to them

[warm lion]

(sry had to complete that sentence with my agenda)

[warm lion]

mag fed crossbow

[hexed marsh]

isn't that actually a thing?

[warm lion]

it is afaik

[merry spindle]

Yea

Example of a mag fed crossbow

[hexed marsh]

still want the modern muzzle loader

[elfin merlin]

I don't think recon should have brs

Only snipers and smg type weapons

And integrally suppressed weapons

[hexed marsh]

Meh. Recon being able to do things other than snipe ain't a bad thing.

[warm lion]

assault first needs its dmr rights revoked

[tepid peak]

Honestly wouldn’t mind both assault and engi losing it

[warm lion]

idk about engi dmrs tbh but assault

fuck that

[tepid peak]

Nah no reason engi needs DMR, they can use ARs for all I care

[warm lion]

the balancing has been awry ever since

[tepid peak]

It’s literally just M110 for DMR that’s problematic

[warm lion]

no

mk20

mk14

svd

they are all too powerful on assault

[tepid peak]

Mk14 is a meme

Svd and MK20 spam gets addressed in the future update™️

[warm lion]

(compared to recon)

[tepid peak]

But still no reason for non-snipers to have it. If you need a scope just use scoped RPGs instead of irons

And assault yeah we really should just make that the “play offensively/footsolider” class

Imo anyways

[merry spindle]

Id mind on engie

But yeah, fuck assault

Idk why assault has dmrs

On engie at least, it kinda makes sense and can help for longer range kills

[lyric stag]

I would exchange either SMGs or PDWs for the DMRs
the battlerifles are quite pointless addition

[lyric stag]

(not basin da balance on that- I just wanna have my sidekick with an smg)

[lyric stag]

yeh and nah
and I also dislike how "disballanced" it is that everyone else has four guns

[lyric stag]

(afterall exo wearing heavy is basically Bulldozer from Payday)

[lyric stag]

I personally would like to see anti-materiel (or material) rifles for engie
If anyone here played the old Battlefield 2142- engie had a anti-tank rifle as an unlock there

but tldr:
I still stand on hill of- give recon fourth weapon type.
and on that:
GIVING BATTLERIFLES TO RECON IS ALREADY CONCIDERED A FKIN MEME

the other would be to give recon more insentive to actually do fkin recon (and no, the "lighthouse meme" is not the answer)
Stuff like giving recon a camera to place on corners, a mine that instead of blowing people up mass pings a place etc (but that's for like totally other thread)

[lyric quartz]

Enjoy using DMR on Assault much, but this cancer should be fix soon.

Imo guns should be divided for classes. Recon have DMR and sniper rifle only. Bow is an interesting idea.

Support have lmg, assault with smg, engi with pdws. Idea is with each class have a distinctive weapon. BRs, smg and carbine may have divided for each of classes, or all 3 classes to use.

Dont mention much with medic. I see them really like assault and engi. Honestly I feel nice if assault is also medic with some tweaks.

[tepid peak]

We don’t need another weapon classification rework after it was discussed to hell and back, just remove DMRs from non recon classes. (Mainly just assault if we wanted to simplify the request further)

Hell even BR is fine, only one I see people complain about is the fal, but that’s because the fal in general is strong in the right hands.

Also BR recon isn’t a “meme” if you genuinely know how to drone or use spotting to your advantage. I will die on that hill

[lyric stag]

(if I was to drop my argument I would agree with yours- especially to "unfuck" the game so people have reasons to overall play other classess than Assault and Medic, because Engie, Recon and Hevy are both "too specialized" and "too gimped" plus well- what would Timmy pick, longer spot range, heavy armour or faster revive (and portable healing), faster reload speed on EVERYTHING)

[drowsy tartan]

This is probably the way to go

[drowsy tartan]

THANK YOU

CHRIST

droning as recon is a lot of fun

[hexed marsh]

people really up in arms about DMR's but i see like 5 people use them a match,10-15 if I count both sides at once

[jaunty hedge]

fuck it
give recon an RPG instead!

[molten solstice]

imo it shouldnt just be the entire weapon categories available/unavailable to classes

as well as maybe certain attachments are available to said weapons on a class but that might be annoying for them to manage

[molten solstice]

and what i mean by this is: instead of assault getting access to all DMR they just get Mk14 or Recon gets allowed access to just the internally suppressed weapons to feed into a more stealth/infiltration gameplay

[humble osprey]

Bro is NOT cooking

[molten solstice]

me or OP?