Hear Me Out... Pocket mortar

[solid orbit]

I think that a different variation of the rocket launcher for engineer could be the pocket mortar. It would do more damage but have a much smaller effect radius. If you could have good enough aim, it would be able to penetrate vehicles a little bit and hit the driver.

This weapon was origionally a meme, but I think that it could be fun to play with and, if the radius was small enough, it would be as balanced as rocket launchers.

[vivid bear]

yes

[sterile wren]

Great idea like a short spread blunderbuss

[vast moss]

at that point you could really just ask for a GL since it is what your asking for ultimately

something like the M79

once i said that i remembered we already have the M320 but it only fires smokes so just stick HE-DP in there and tada👍

[mortal fable]

no wayz, brimstone lineups??

[dim magnet]

Would rather not have a “noob tube” type of weapon tbh. I do respect that you want alternatives to the rpgs though instead of just “oh hey here’s a suggestion where assault performs engi’s demolition role but better”, I’ll give you that.

but ultimately this would nullify frag rpg even more, when frag is already seen as a meme that doesn’t fill its intended role (infantry killing) rpg heat overperforms by being good against everything in general, making it picked in most situations (with tandem filling its intended role, specifically being picked against blackbirds, apcs, and tanks.)

unless it replaces frag and heat gets proper rebalancing. Which I honestly don’t see happening anytime soon tbh. Would be cool though

[grizzled atlas]

I hope they do something with rpgs

Cause like

No bleed next update

And entire point was to cause it

So yeah, frags a bigger doodoo now

[solid orbit]

I agree with you on most of what you said. What I intended was for it to be a very precise version that would not destroy vehicles, rather it would go through them partially and be able to hit targets inside. Just clarifying.

Not a real weapon for hitting open infantry.

[forest thistle]

how about a mortar , it could be a class specific weapon too, and it will be good to hit enemies that are not directly in line of sight and behind objects

[dim magnet]

Regular mortars would be prone to safezone/redzone abuse, which is already bad enough as it stands

If I had to make a direct example: BF4. A lot of servers outright forbid use mortar in redzone because it’s not fun to fight against, nor would be fair to the player who’s getting attacked if you’re hiding behind a rock or somewhere that makes it near impossible for you to be killed

[grizzled atlas]

Only way i see mortars being added is if:

• It is a buildable with a strict build limit (cannot be moved, can be destroyed)
• Can only be placed by 1 class
• Cannot be placed in safezones
• When fired, it takes a while until it reaches the ground, with a very audible whistling sounds around 5 seconds before impact
• You have to judge and zero the distance yourself (no seeing exactly where it will land)

[worthy crest]

Map rework for having more precise gridline needed for judge distance, and mortal have a max distance limit too

[royal whale]

Wait what?

[grizzled atlas]

Oh yeah
Thats a thing

Bleeds is gonna be removed next update

#battlebit-eng message

Just in case you are out of the loop

Covers everything coming up

[royal whale]

Yeah I only really got back here maybe a week ago, but this is looking like a great patch

Been really annoyed lately at how useless the magnified optics were on ARs, BRs, etc, so this fixes something I've been wanting for a while now

[grizzled atlas]

Other than some specific desidions, it does look like a good patch overall

[royal whale]

Yeah there's a few things in there that make me scratch my head, but it could end up working out fine. If it doesn't, it can be reversed at some point.

[tough eagle]

Actually… may I suggest the vz. 99 ANTOS 60mm lightweight mortar? Engineers only, and they have to mount it first so as to keep it from becoming too OP.

[solid orbit]

I meant the pocket mortar meme. It is a large shell loaded into a flare gun.

[ionic berry]

Is that a vacuum?

[tough eagle]

Sure it is, cleans up rooms up to 1300m away lol

[fading herald]

flare mortar would be interesting for night mode maps

[tough eagle]

Like flares aren't annoying enough for night maps already?

[fading herald]

well not the kind that we usually have but the one that stays in the air for awhile. basically its meant to light up an area with a larger radius but doesnt impact NVG as much unless the person is much closer to the light source (i.e: if they are looking at it or on a high building near the flare.)

[tough eagle]

In this case it'd be useless, but to make it useful would be to make night maps even more annoying

[fading herald]

if its annoying means it works no?

[tough eagle]

Just because it works doesn't mean it belongs

[violet arch]

M224 60mm mortar: Ermm.........

Oh there is another

M32 MGL: Hello my little brother