Damage by Distance? (HS Only) (Snipers)

[high elk]

Hello!

I read somewhere that some changes will come towards armor, bleed and whatnot once the new update rolls out.
Will this make it more difficult for snipers in the future?

I've played a lot of sniper lately, and absolutely love the M200.
More and more I'm getting used to the weapon, and try to switch up between long distance and up close gameplay.
But! I've noticed quite a few times that a simple helmet seems to be a guaranteed barrier against any type of bullets coming your way.

It does makes sense that it works the way it does currently (i like it the way it is) - What doesn't make sense is that there is no change in effect when standing within 3-10 meters within distance of a sniper, shooting directly at a players head, and it still reacts as if you were standing 1000 or 2000 m away reflecting the bullet like it's nothing.

• In my opinion: Hitting a headshot within 10 meters should penetrate any armor we currently have available, when using a such a powerful weapon such as a sniper.

This (should or could) be made to only affect headshots! - and not increase the damage caused on other body part no matter the distance or the weapon.
The current setup kinda makes me want to go back to camping, since I have such a huge disadvantage when I try to join in to fight, and the result is the same either way except I'll be safe at a distance.

Hope yall have a good day!

[bold bear]

Also for the .50 BMG on the humvee

[high elk]

I honestly didn't even think of the vehicles, but to be frank, anything with firepower equal to the sniper and/or above should kill instantly when standing within 10 meters and hitting a headshot.

Was about to say it would be overpowered on vehicles, but then reminded myself that it's only relevant in very close combat, and god knows the vehicles could use a little help against the constant barrage of C4's and RPG's 😂😁

[atomic agate]

Snipers in general need to be looked at, and I do believe they should go back to one shot headshots. Not only for the reasoning for close range effectiveness but for a trade off to make longer shots feel a bit more of a skillful endeavor if the shot is well placed.

Currently it's just too easy to blast someone 1 mile/1600m away.

On more of a personal note, why don't the headshots sound much more satisfying, I feel like that's missing.

[high elk]

Use the sounds of fruits being smashed for headshots 😁

We need a fruit ninja collab!
https://youtu.be/COFeh96bfWI?feature=shared

jk

[zinc shell]

Idk where to even start with snipers, but they need a whole ass rework, mainly for 3 reasons:

1. Generally a very unbalanced weapon class
2. Sniper trails
3. Longer the distance the more damage it deals shenanigans

[high elk]

@stiff marlin i wrote jk after!!
and to @atomic agate - i agree!

Personally i would love for it to be one shot kill on headshot no matter the distance.
This was more of a midway solution because as we all know, people who don't play sniper LOVES snipers (again, jk)

[stiff marlin]

No, bullets loose their energy with distance, You can't just kill with any headshot made

[thick lagoon]

Not in this game lol, you get more damage the farther away you are (which is actually pretty dumb and encourages the kind of non-interactive gameplay everyone hates about recons)

[zinc shell]

Rare wedzol sighting

But yea at this point it is kinda silly for the more more damage the farther it goes thing to still be in place

Sniping is already very easy, and having extra damage on top of that just makes it even easier

Like i assume its that way to make long range sniping easier and all that

Imo snipers should at the very least have constant damage across the range
Sure its gamey but at least it will raise the skill ceiling a bit

But besides that, stats for these snipers need to be looked at alongside removing or heavily tweaking sniper trails

Trails just make you a literal beacon and it pretty much killed close range sniping

Snipers could probably use like a red dot or something also

Seems weird that the closest you get to that are canted and top sights

[solar coral]

oki doesn't want quick scopes

and the dmg curve in itself isn't that bad

[zinc shell]

If oki doesnt want quick scopes why does the sv have a pkas then

[thick lagoon]

tbh I would much rather drop the pretense of "extensive customization" when there are only a handful of attachments that make sense for any given weapon and instead just have something like kits that the devs can design with specific use cases in mind

And they could just tweak stuff like ADS speed and making sure bullets go out of the barrel until the animation is completed

[vocal yew]

it's literally in the game and I do it all the time.

[vocal yew]

I have two takes on this: For one just get rid of the DMR all together and actually snipe. If you want to actually headshot someone just use an actual sniper. The other thing you have to realize is what type of bullet you would actually be shooting out of a DMR as well.

[high elk]

I don't have a problem with DMR (or BR), i don't think they are that special tbh.

Like i said, the M200 sniper is my go-to, but snipers in general don't do that well in close combat (which is what my problem is about).
I don't consider DMR in the same category as sniper. They are of a much different kind of gameplay in my opinion and shouldn't be compared.

[solar coral]

it is possible but oki doesn't want to encourage it.

that's why we don't have red dots for snipers afaik

[vocal yew]

I believe DMR’s exist to bridge the gap to counter snipers in general. For sure different gameplay and would almost say require more skill and tactics most definitely. The playing field gets a little weird when you get double tapped at a distance and can’t really do much as a sniper.

Also I would recommend using the MSR or the L96 instead of the M200 as a sniper. Both allow you to move around quicker than the M200 and with enough practice you can find some great spots to snipe in CQC.

[bold bear]

M110 /w rangefinder & PGO7 HEAT seems like just about the perfect long range sniper removal system

[vocal yew]

I honestly think snipers with their current design at range is basically this way to begin with. I think the biggest problem right now is that at least the top 4 snipers: L96, Rem, M200, and MSR are all the same.

[vocal yew]

Aw man that already happens all the time lmfao

[bold bear]

I unfortunately don't have the rangefinder unlocked on the m110 yet so that is only theoretical.

[vocal yew]

I also unfortunately can't see what attachments people are using on their weapons when they kill me but I'm sure they have rangefinders for sure. Easy to spot the RPG kill though.

[bold bear]

My preferred way to RPG-countersnipe is from the transport littlebird.
Much more fun and also justifiable as realistic since the AH-6 can mount rockets irl.

[rugged saffron]

bf1 hs sound is amazing

[high elk]

https://youtu.be/dENbyvfVCL0?feature=shared

[rugged saffron]

So krisp

[atomic agate]

Yeah I agree