#Riot Shield (New Point System)

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reef sentinel
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Will the riot shield ever have something like "bullets tanked" while teammates are nearby? And you earn points based on how many bullets you tanked?

charred trench
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probably would be easy to abuse

buoyant kelp
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how would it be easy to abuse

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  1. enemy has to shoot you
  2. enemy must not use RPG
  3. enemy must not use grenades
  4. enemy must not use c4
  5. enemy must not charge you
  6. enemy must not shoot glass
  7. enemy must not have friends anywhere but directly in front of you
steady girder
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  1. get a friend
  2. go to map border
  3. shoot shield
  4. profit
high dragon
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If people want to spend an hour trying to level that way, let them. That sounds like an utterly boring way to spend time.

buoyant kelp
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ah yes, get one friend to sit there and shoot you for hours to earn profit.

charred trench
buoyant kelp
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because there are different ways to earn faster? abuse means that its better than just playing the game. it won't be, I doubt you will get even 100 per shot, more like 20 at max. in that same time frame you could have gotten at least 2 kills, meaning you would need to take 80 shots without dying to get close to that.

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if the shield didn't utterly suck and actually just made you impervious from the front then maybe you would be right, but its not and its really easy to kill a shield user.

high dragon
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We all know the people who would do that kind of thing don't have friends HyperXD

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In all seriousness, if somebody wants to farm points by themself or with a friend, they could probably just join an empty server and cap points endlessly. I'm sick of people trying to shoot down decent ideas because it might be "exploitable." Who cares if that's how a small percentage of players want to do things? The rest of us just want stuff to be useful.

charred trench
buoyant kelp
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not that hard to find a nearly empty 127 server and find a corner in the middle of fucking nowhere

charred trench
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need atleast 12 people to start
14 including you and your friend

buoyant kelp
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ah yes, and what would you report for?

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who would even bother to notice?

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plenty of servers with 20-30 people on a 127 map.

charred trench
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what else would it be for
use common sense xD

buoyant kelp
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alright, what is it then?

charred trench
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alone crashing a heli in spawn does the same thing
= a ban xD

buoyant kelp
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right buddy

charred trench
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which is farming
or under griefing

buoyant kelp
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unlike losing a helicopter, nobody is going to notice.

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because that is a vehicle

charred trench
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yeah but youll still be noticeable with all the XP and 0 kills

buoyant kelp
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and is actually greifing the entire team.

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not really no

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becasue 1, people do that all the time with spots, repairs, bandages and healing. there's nothign special

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and 2, nobody would give a fuck two people spent 45 min getting the same amount of points a average player can get in the same amount of time playing the game normally

charred trench
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it would be abusing game mechanics which results in a ban
i wonder if people actually read the ToS when they first launched the game...

buoyant kelp
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like I said man, 1 that's not greifing anymore than afking.

charred trench
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and if XP farming wasnt an issue
then why did oki insta patch the barbed wire and reset people

buoyant kelp
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damage xp is very different

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and is gained at a much higher rate.

charred trench
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XP in general lol
if you get caught in your spawn throwing your friend ammo just to get XP
you will get banned even if you sitting at the corner of the map
so whats the difference?

buoyant kelp
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so right now your whole argument is "these 2 people in the middle of nowhere are somehow sabotaging a full team, while getting xp in the slowest way possible"

charred trench
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please read ToS for once xD

buoyant kelp
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my man, nobody is reporting that

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keep believing that these actions that nobody will notice, gaining xp at a ultra slow rate, are getting noticed and reported

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you can get 500xp for filling a friendly ammo from empty. 1 kill is already better than that.

charred trench
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yep and you still get banned

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so

buoyant kelp
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healing is about the same, I think with the heal frinedly kickback it might be 900?

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and no, you don't.

charred trench
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yes you do xD

buoyant kelp
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because that is not greifing a team, and nobody has ever reported that unless its 80% of the team

charred trench
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im not wasting my time on this anymore
ill just forward @nocturne warren here instead

buoyant kelp
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"wasting my time"

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you have such childish views. and even if its is somehow noticable, much less bannable, then those people farming are getting banned. there is no reason to not add this if it is bannable, because the farmers will get banned anyway.

drowsy kiln
# buoyant kelp so right now your whole argument is "these 2 people in the middle of nowhere are...

I dont know why youre being intentionally obtuse. He has been very clear that none of his criticisms stem from griefing the team. He explicitly explained to you that XP farming is against TOS, which is what he is talking about in this thread.

Furthermore, your notion that xp farming the shield would be slow is inherently stupid. If xp farming the shield was slow, then what would be the point of this entire suggestion? If you cant get any reward from intentionally abusing the mechanic with a few friends, how are you supposed to get any sizable amount of reward for using the shield normally??

buoyant kelp
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man has never heard of teamplay before

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just because objective play is objectively worse at getting XP does not mean people will not do it.

charred trench
buoyant kelp
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your shitty takes never change its always "why do x if it can't be abused and earn you massive rewards"

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and yes, replying with an overused gif will always win you an argument. keep acting like a 12 year old I guess.

drowsy kiln
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Again youre just not listening. I cant tell if you are actually this stupid or if your just pulling a giant elaborate troll.

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He never said "Why wouldnt you do this" he said "You CAN do this".

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Do you understand the difference??

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If you dont understand the difference, how?

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How do you not understand this?

buoyant kelp
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He's saying its going to be noticed and reported

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which it isn't, becasue nobody will notice or care

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guess you didn't bother reading beyond two messages up, pretty par for the course with you.

drowsy kiln
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You fundamentally misunderstand what he is saying.

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Im not sure how to explain this to you.

buoyant kelp
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despite him explicitly stating it will be seen and be reported

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sure

drowsy kiln
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The fact that you think that that is the main contention he has with you is what you dont understand. What he mentioned was a one off comment that has no relevance to both the preceding and proceeding conversations. The fact that you think it has anything to do with anything is astounding to me.

buoyant kelp
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sure man, "just ignore the first statement becuase it was obviously a oneoff"

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such a great way to hold any kind of conversation.

charred trench
buoyant kelp
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yeah, that requires the other person to actually think out their arguments.

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normal people don't say one thing, refuse to acknowledge they were wrong or misspoke, then get to claim the other person is in the wrong for calling them out on it.

charred trench
drowsy kiln
buoyant kelp
# charred trench yawn

oh yeah, totally a random player is going to be staring at the map to see the guy in nowhere and report them. totally what you said bud. Unless that person reports snipers for being far away, they will not care even if they notice. which again, was the basis of your whole argument.

buoyant kelp
charred trench
buoyant kelp
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they wont

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because nobody will care

charred trench
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oh so if i see someone better than me i should just report without actually checking for validity
smart 200iq

buoyant kelp
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unless they are specifically looking for people not in the general furball, and spectating all of them to look for griefers like some 12 year old mini-modding

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nobody will care

buoyant kelp
charred trench
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no but it sounds like something you do with how you act

buoyant kelp
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sure man, you think people finding someone one the map away from the fighting, stopping their own game to spectate them, and watch to see if they need to report them, is fucking normal

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unlike your example of the helicopter, 1 player is not going to attract any players attention.

charred trench
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Well you don’t speak for everyone
But in your delusional mind I guess you do

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But thanks for the laughs

buoyant kelp
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sure man, keep looking around servers for a single random so you can report them

steady girder
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and if the xp is enough to make the shield worth using its enough to farm with it

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beside the shield is absolute garbage so even if you get xp basically nobody would use it normally

high dragon
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This is why I'm convinced the shield should get the Ready or Not treatment

steady girder
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what is the ready or not treatment?

charred trench
steady girder
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first we need to fix that good damn front window

indigo dew
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make riot shield one hit kill

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problem solved

wicked girder
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let me throw shield boomerang like captain america

reef sentinel
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Ngl I just got back i didn't think this would be so popular...

covert urchin
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let us use a secondary or smg with it, or short throw nades.

indigo dew
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the base function of it needs a partner which makes it really something else to use, you are covered whole tho which is nice for peaking and teamplay, but solo