Improve/fix the prestige system

[glacial knoll]

I can not comprehend why there is no prestige tokens or similar for permanent unlocks.
Or why camos that you unlock later are just randomly ordered with some of the most ugly skins being prestige 5, 90% of skins being prestige 3, etc.

The order of camo unlocks withint prestiges is horrible, 90% are prestige 3, prestige 5 has some horrible skins.
There is a huge gap in good camos between 1000 and 3500 gun kills.

The approach that oki wants to take for permanent unlocks with insanely ridiculous challenges to unlock something permanently (like his mentioned 1000 kills over 1000m to unlock permanent ranger on recon) is just insane.

It would mean that people would have to rely on devs deciding what tool should and what should not have a permanent unlock achievement and how ridiculous of a grind that achievment will be.

Just give people 2 prestige tokens per prestige to permanently unlock 1 weapon + 1 armor or tool.
Worrying about people getting their kit going quickly after prestige is super unfun and pointless.
Good players will be back to high level fast again.
Casual players will refuse to prestige cause it takes forever to unlock their favorite loadout.
Many players favorite weapons are accessible very late so depending on your gun preference you are just punished by the game for no reason.
People enjoying the FAL or M200 would have to pray that Oki decides that those weapons are worthy of permanent unlocks.

Refusing to provide people the tools to make their progression more enjoyable and reasonable is very unfun and it baffles me how the devs do not realize how such a simple change would make people way more willing to engage in the prestige system and look forward to unlocks.

Another alternative would be rolling EXP system like Payday, where you can stay at max level and collect exp to use for when you prestige to instantly jump up levels again.

I don't care about the kind of solution implemented, I just want the devs to see that keeping your favorite loadout after prestige is irrelevant for balance but very unfun to players.

Additionally, please stop resetting all gun loadouts and camos when my gun kills do not reset.
There is no reason to have to have to reequip my camos and attachments every time.
There is no reason to lock character skins like afro camo behind levels.
There is no reason to reset my character loadout.
There is no reason to not notify me once I have X armor unlocked again and automatically reequip it based on what my loadout was pre prestige.

It's a lot of unfun mechanics that introduce friction for seemingly no reason, which is a main driving factor of playercount bleed across the board.

Improve/fix the prestige system

[wet mist]

[glacial knoll]

90% of players, even more so casuals will tell you "no point prestiging, it takes forever and doesn't give you anything"
If you would keep your favorite loadout, it would be a "might aswell get those camos" situation which is a huge step up from the current system already.

I am not saying first time prestiging should get you your entire loadout permaunlocked, but it really wouldn't be an issue either and make more people engage with the system.
At prestige 2 or 3 a player should definitely have 2 favorite guns + armor + some utility perma unlocked.
And all this comes from someone who is past the prestige grind.

[wet mist]

Look ma, im on the teevee!

[glacial knoll]

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[wet mist]

Well that fool right there made the mistake of using the SV98 over the ssg, smh

[wet mist]

Damn dude this is basically a public blasting lmao

[wet mist]

I knew it wasnt liked, but had no idea it was so universally unliked. Ffs oki take a hint!

[glacial knoll]

I am now stopping at page 4/348 when searching for "prestig" in #battlebit-eng

It is very obviously universally disliked and a lot of people refuse to engage with this progression system because of it.
Good players will just get over it and grind past it quickly, which is unfun but not a huge deal to those who get 50 levels in a day easily.
Other players get a system they will never engage in cause its poorly designed.

[wet mist]

And those players who can more or less breeze through the prestiges are an absurdly small minority, to add

[lofty plank]

I personally have no issue grinding through the prestiges because the game is just that much fun but its very understandable that many choose not to due to there being nothing to it other than number go up and all the other annoyances as mentioned above.

[wet mist]

Probably one of those things that varies from player to player. I just dont really vibe with any of the guns you get access to until well past level 100. That just sucks Sgt Major Asshole every time i prestige, and ultimately directly resulted im me quitting the game. I had 4.5k on the MSR that i couldnt add a single more kill to without grinding 3/4 the way through another prestige. By level 50 or so of that prestige, not a single bit of wind was left in my sails, regardless of how much i desperately unfurled the sails

[quartz cape]

being forced to play a different gun every now and then isn't that bad but why should the evo still be lvl 150 after prestige 5? you could easily reduce the rank to unlock weapons every prestige for like 10lvls so that you only need lvl 100 for evo and prestige 5

or sth like that

[wet mist]

Eh. I think forcing players to use different guns than their norm when they earned the privilege of not having to do so by leveling up is a bit silly. Challenges exist to encourage/borderline strongarm players into switching things up, but the prestiges do literally force it once the prestige reset is confirmed. Forcing playstyles on your players is a great way to just make them choose a different game IMO

And yeah, unlock req. reduction based on prestige would help a lot

[quartz cape]

I don't think it's that bad

[wet mist]

Another suggestion that has been bounced around is unlock tickets

[modern comet]

not having the val and scoop hurts so bad