#shotguns, we want them

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noble crown
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some of you are traumatised from call of duty and battlefield 3 frag shotguns but it can be balanced right and truedevil has said at the current point, over a month ago, i dont think thats the current point anymore so heres how to balance them,

  1. no one shot kills if not aiming at the head, pellets can bleed over to get a 1sk on the head but that will take at the least 3 pellets imo, make it a two tap in the chest and make the damage effective against light and ranger armour (maybe like 75 to 80 damage point blank) head shots should 1sk just like the rsh12, deagle, most dmrs and sniper rifles, but the pellets can bleed over if you miss,

  2. increased range, less spread, but heavily reduced damage. no shotgun will be sniping at 100 meters but i think the should still be a versatile weapon up to 50m max, with the damage drop off from 75 to 80 down to 40 or 50, but some pellets may miss due to spread at that range so the damage may be reduced, headshots do not 1sk at that range unless the enemy is heavily injured.

  3. pump action and double barrel only, pump action needs the person to rechamber every round manually (do not make it so i have to left click again however) and i dont think there should be automatic or semi automatic shotguns as that would be even harder to balance, double barrel shotguns principle is simple, more spread so headshot chance at point blank is increased, can fire 2 shots in semi auto (balanced because of the reload time after the 2 rounds are depleted), but the gun is not very versatile at all, anything past 25 meters will be hard to kill, due to the increased spread (im not balancing of realism, bad idea) and the pellets should do slightly less damage overall, so shooting the head might be the only good option, and you wont be able to charge in and kill an entire enemy team, the gun would only be effective at holding angles or a rally point or building.

charred stump
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u dumass

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they said nuh uh

noble crown
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  1. (ran out of space in the thread) breaching capabillity, allow for the same damage as a pickaxe so it can be more versatile
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current point over a month ago

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current point is now in the past

flat sigil
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they've said no, and that's not going to change anytime soon.

noble crown
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i think it should be added

noble crown
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what

fiery turtle
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hot

grizzled sigil
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Yes

We need shotguns because of all weapons on helicopter seats miss their targets, just because unable to create enough friendly but balanced aiming.
Once helicopter shakes - all crew shakes too.
If implement stabilization - it will be overpowered, otherwise - without paratroopers autorifles is useless

I would suggest revolver grenade launcher... but at least shotguns

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no... but yes

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yes

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always

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you take it from cargo and get some fun

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take oki from cargo?

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ah

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sawed-off/double-barreled as a pistol ?

steel nebula
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m82 as pistol

grizzled sigil
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and then we make it autofiring

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good idea

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😄

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nooo.... i want teamfortress 1 12cal minigun, aa12 is weak

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guess there's closed borders

round oak
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@noble crown generally you have good ideas and takes, this is not one

noble crown
round oak
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Since November 4th 2023

noble crown
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im just suggesting how to balance them, way easier than snipers the ttk is 300ms average it will not be op

round oak
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Also i was too lazy to read the whole suggestion 🤷‍♂️

noble crown
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well if you dont read it then dont downvote or upvote it lol

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ive even said that auto shotguns shouldnt be added

pure merlin
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a two hit pump action shotgun?

noble crown
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its like taking the m110, but not good at range

pure merlin
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sounds useless to me and the double barrel is basically a one hit close range which is not wanted

noble crown
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there are many 1 shot headshot weapons tbh

pure merlin
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if we talk about no auto shotguns we either get 1hit kill which is garbage, or two hit kill which is basically useless. If you add too much spread it becomes pure luck and if you dont have enough spread it becomes a sniper
so many issues that need solving while the devs cant even solve frag rpg and riot shield atm

round oak
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Either way if we do manage to balance them shotguns will have a campy playstyle so even if balanced it will be incredibly annoying

noble crown
noble crown
pure merlin
noble crown
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remember that to rechamber a round in the shotgun it takes 300ms, so someone could turn around and kill you the second you fuck up

round oak
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They dont care, they just wanna ruin other peoples day

noble crown
pure merlin
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if you want headshot one hit just play sniper red dot

charred stump
pure merlin
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