#Evo Balancing (💪🦂)

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nocturne bridge
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So the Evo... loved by a small few, disdained by the masses.

With 10k+ kills on the Evo I feel like I'm in a fairly unique position to make some suggestions. This is going to be a long post.

First things first, the Evo isn't in a BAD spot. It's a very specialized weapon with a skill floor. Other weapons outperform it in every scenario except for one: 30m and under (some might even say 15m and under 💀) At shorter ranges with good recoil control you can capitalize on the TTK and relatively good handing stats to win most CQC fights.

My current "problems" (if you can call them that) are that once you start trying to chain kills you quickly realize the uptime is not great despite the 35 round magazine and the 1.00 move speed means you cannot rotate as quickly as other SMG users. It seems odd that a weapon with objectively less effective range than its counterparts which is focused purely on CQC fighting has both slower movement and reload speed (both very important in CQC) than said counterparts.

To address this and make it truely shine in its role I would propose the following buffs.

A modest increase in move speed to 1.05 and either a quickmag or a straight reduction in base reload speed to closer to 3.00s. The 3.43s base reload is rather punishing when you consider that almost every other SMG is at or below the 3.00s mark with meta attachments.

I DO NOT want large changes to the recoil/damage/RPM because I think the Evo is currently very rewarding to use and the recoil limitations prevents it from becoming another pre-nerf Vector. I would just like to see a couple modest buffs to bring it to parity with comparable options and maybe convince some more players to pick it up. It's sad that the L150 weapon doesn't feel rewarding to unlock to most people and I want that to change.

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Suggestions/critique/questions welcome of course. If we want to get into the weeds about the secondary stats and what could be done to "balance" these suggested buffs I'm more than happy to but I think on their own these buffs won't make the Evo OP or even meta overnight, just give it a fighting chance at not collecting dust on a shelf for 99% of the playerbase.

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timber river
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As an avid fan of the Scorpion myself I am all for this. I also personally find it odd that it is the only firearm in the game that cannot attach a suppressor. Even the Unica, which unless it's some specialized version that has the cylinder and barrel sealed, shouldn't benefit from one, yet it still can have one. I would at the bare minimum love to see the Scorpion have the same options that the PP2000 has with access to both suppressors.

nocturne bridge
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Evo Balancing (💪🦂)

tepid python
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peak jay
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worst thing about it is the movement speed

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reload is actually kinda fine with assault and the burk (yes i use the burk why do you ask)

spring helm
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Honestly, this weapon is fucked up

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It should be reworked not bufed

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2.7 vertical, 1000+ rpm, 4 btk, like, yeaaah

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spring helm
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Fucked up doesn't mean badly performing

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Those things aren't mutually exclusive

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No need to flex your KD

nocturne bridge
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I wouldn't call it fucked up I would say its unique. Literally all the smgs feel relatively the same except for it and that throws people off. But a total rework would be a loss imo there are no other weapons that feel and play similar to it.

peak jay
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"boohoo it's too hard to use"
it's not supposed to be easy lol

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same goes for the fal, scar and ak15
very powerful in the right hands but not easy to use

nocturne bridge
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People will say the Evo is fucked up but the FAL is "meta" lol

peak jay
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fr HyperXD

nocturne bridge
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Basically my problem with most of the criticism amd calls for fully reworking of the gun is it comes from people who clearly have expectations for it that doesn't align with what it actually does and often haven't taken the time to understand how to use it. It's like grabbing a pair of pliers and then getting angry that they're no good at hammering nails.

spring helm
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Bad comparison man

nocturne bridge
# spring helm Fal is due a nerf more than half a year

The FAL isn't even thay strong people just cry about it.

The point is that the average player who picks it up will not do exceptional with it but that doesn't mean it's a bad weapon. People still call it a meta pick (they just don't mention that it's a meta pick for like the top 5% of players).

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Also I would ask this: if you think it should be reworked what should that be? Cuz it seems like people say that but have no idea what they want, we don't need another mp7/pp2000/Vector. If you want a meta SMG with low recoil pick one of those but don't say they should rework a gun you never use because it's NOT one of those.

spring helm
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I think it's OP weapon but anyways

spring helm
nocturne bridge
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Brother TTK alone means nothing look at the AUG or Ultimax

Also doesn't outperform the meta SMGs in practice. Stats=/= performance

nocturne bridge
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Why do people want the same copy and pasted weapon for each subclass lol those options already exist

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spring helm
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# spring helm lvl 140 gun

Brother even considering that I literally die to a FAL like once every 5 games. I don't know pickrates but I've seen how it performs and the only people crying about it are usually skill issue

It's hardly OP.

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I literally see about as many Evo as I do FAL I think, so it's not picked often

slender tangle
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almost like every gun has a ttk faster than the human body can react. Its rare to see anyone but the the same guy running similar guns. Couldn't say I've seen one gun be a "sure pick" like everyone says there is.

onyx nimbus
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Evo is so crazy to use, it makes you realize that most fights in this game take place at mid range but when you hit your shots with this thing the ttk feels friggin instant
Depending on the situation it either absolutely obliterates or it is utter crap and there is no in-between. I love the way it is currently but the move-speed buff is well needed and the reload speed buff is also probably good. I personally can't forsee either of them making it OP.

hasty crane
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Love me some scorpion on a close range map like namak or on isle where people just emerge from the bushes.

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Honestly don’t change the reload speed, just give us a quick mag instead.