Stamina and Squad Points - Open Letter to Devs

[thin ether]

Here's hoping this message finds you well and you are having a happy start to the New Year. I have played Battle Bit now for over 150 hours and I must say that it's brought me back to the FPS genre. Call of Duty always felt too "gamey" for me, but, Battle Bit provides a very refreshing element of grit and strategy. A big thank you to the Devs for making the game and bringing enjoyment to people like me.

There are two suggestions I'd like to offer you that I think would vastly improve the game. I believe these changes would be viewed positively by experienced and casual players:

1. Add a Stamina Bar - There are few things more annoying in the game than when an enemy soldier runs around in circles and you're unable to kill him. Next thing you know, he revives two friends while he is running around and zigging / zagging. I think that adding stamina (like in almost all FPS games) would remove this perverse incentive that players have to run around in the open.
2. Spawning on Squad Should Cost Squad Points - I like the idea of a Battlefront being formed where there is an offensive / defensive line and one team must capture one building after another to advance. Unfortunately, the immersion can be broken here when one or more soldiers slips behind enemy lines. Within a minute, an entire squad or half the enemy army is spawned in and your post is overrun. The same applies when on offense. An enemy squad keeps spawning in to hold the same building, even though you've killed them all multiple times. Spending squad points to spawn on your squad (or on a respawn beacon) would be a good compromise between spawning with your friends / your squad and abusing this feature of the game.

Thank you for reading, I greatly appreciate it and am looking forward to hearing the community's thoughts on this. I have high hopes for the game going forward!

[stiff iris]

stamina bars in almost ALL fps games!?

[west sorrel]

my brain stamina bar has just run out.

[chrome cloud]

skill issue

just get good

[limpid plover]

Stamina bar-dont like the idea
Squad spawning - very good

[silk carbon]

agreed

skill is private stuff. kasparov has a master level in chess. and what level had chess creator?

increasing game speed is not a skill but reaction thing
"dont think just react" is not a skill, its a hell

if you have no time to teamplay you never see teamplay, so the game must be personal, self healing, self resupply, self repair, self self self...

just because you haven't time to communicate and cowork.

[half slate]

I see "stamina" and I dislikes it.

[dull oyster]

Stamina systems almost always feel bad. Horrible idea.

Squad spawn limits would be interesting. Would certainly make early game different while squads are still earning points as deaths would be more significant. Squad leaders might need an ability to track points spent by squad members to make sure someone isn't just rinsing the pool of points, dying, spending, dying, spending. Maybe a personal points pool would be a better model for this - would also encourage people to have to directly contribute to points earning activities.

[rugged orchid]

First idea: Use one of the movement threads for this, we literally had this same suggestion and it no voted to hell to the point of it getting deleted. Nobody, not even the “nerf movement” crowd wants a stamina bar.

Second idea is fine on paper, but in practice would just lead to trolling (suiciding to drain tickets intentionally) and would ruin some early game/start of match strategies that utilize it. The trolling problem has a simple fix: kick them from the squad. But if there was a way to make early game strategies more viable though, I’d be all ears for it, because right now it just seems like people would turtle until they got a decent amount of squad points

[outer fog]

aimlab is your friend

[thin ether]

Seems like stamina is unpopular so I killed that and put the "spawning on squad should cost squad points" in a separate thread.

For the record I do have skill issues lol.