wallbangs or wall penetration

[sly ivy]

Add special walls that can be wallbanged. Also would like thoughts on grades of wallbangable walls that can only be wallbanged with higher calibers.

EDIT: after penetrating the wall it will do less damage and lower bullet velocity as well as not all calibers are able to penetrate walls so we dont have usps shooting through brick wall

[sweet kayak]

damage would be lowered right?

by like half or something

idk

[ripe sundial]

yes

probably

they should be

[brittle holly]

RPG, c4, nades, pickaxe/sledge…

I could go on but you get my point

[ripe sundial]

i think only fences and bushes should be wallbangable

[sweet kayak]

it would be bullets only no?

wallbanging with a sledge would be stupid

[brittle holly]

Yes but why wall bang when you can just destroy the wall

[ripe sundial]

stealth

[brittle holly]

And give the enemies an immediate disadvantage.

Even with stealth, sledge does just that. And the indestructible walls… generally they shouldn’t be wall banged imo. Imagine being able to wall bang everything in namak

[sweet kayak]

if ur too far away to hit the wall with a sledge or c4

also only certain surfaces would be wallbangable

[brittle holly]

I’ll wait to see what the OP’s ideas/thoughts are on this but it just feels like it would be weird

[sweet kayak]

literally read the part of the post where it says only special walls can be wallbangable???? not the entire map of namak

[ripe sundial]

i think only fences and bushes would be fair

[sweet kayak]

you can already shoot through bushes

[brittle holly]

Already possible so that’s why I’m confused. I guess I shoold ask for what he means by special walls

[ripe sundial]

i ment that i think only those 2 are fair

[brittle holly]

Like destructable ones?

[sweet kayak]

i think they meant an entirely new matieral

[sly ivy]

Im talking about some surfaces or walls that are thin that you are able to shoot through which would lower damage and bullet velocity after penetrating

Not shooting through brick walls with a usp

[sweet kayak]

Add that to the first message because most of the time the devs dont read past the first message in a post with a lot of messages in it

[brittle holly]

So something like: Snipers/dmrs/ARs/Hi cal pistols can shoot through x wall, all others ignore it?

I’mma be honest I just don’t want spray and pray a thin wall with lmg/ smoke + lmg metas to be a thing. If it’s a reason why I use an br/ar instead of something like an LMG/smg it has my vote

[sweet kayak]

dont hide behind walls that can be wallbanged 🤷‍♂️

its not like you wouldnt know what could be shot through and what couldnt

[brittle holly]

Depends on how oki does it, but.. sure then why not if he doesn’t butcher it

[sweet kayak]

i mean you could have it where every caliber can wallbang but lower calibers have less wallbang range

like a usp can shoot through a wall... but only if its point blank

same with smgs etc etc

[ripe sundial]

it should do like 5 damage then

[sweet kayak]

yeah ofc ofc

[brittle holly]

That would work. Low damage but it’s still impactful if some unfortunate soul is healing behind it

And maybe idk if this would be beneficial give them the option to be blown up/destructable (if needed, higher durability than brick walls)

[sweet kayak]

wdym

oh

[brittle holly]

Same as brick wall but more health basically

[karmic vapor]

some mats allow wall bangs, but enough damage would breach them?

[brittle holly]

Yeah, like that

[sweet kayak]

why would it have more health than brick if it can be shot through

[brittle holly]

I’m just saying it should be both, but maybe higher health? Could swap the two around.. obviously that would mean brick would have to be changed in some maps but I’d be fine with that.

Yeah actually that would work, make brick the new thin walls (redesign them to not look like brick tho) and a higher tier destructable wall could be brick.

[karmic vapor]

wood/sheet metal to brick, to cement to steel?

[sweet kayak]

wtf are you guys talking about im so confused

[karmic vapor]

wall mats

[sweet kayak]

mats as in the stuff you place down?

[karmic vapor]

no materail of the wall

[sweet kayak]

what about them

[karmic vapor]

like a wooden wall should be easy to shoot through, but a cement/steal one not so much

[brittle holly]

Wood = this new wall, would replace current brick locations

Brick = same as current brick but would be/could be used in new locations or map reworks to open new pathways, explode enemy cover, etc.

[karmic vapor]

it would take some fine tuning, because we don't want "spray wall" to be the play everyone does

[brittle holly]

Could be more like you said but that’s what I was thinking

[karmic vapor]

brick should be in the middle, cement harder to breach, and steel/reinforced concrete being undamaged from anything but bringing the building down?

wood/sheet metal should just be low tier,

[sweet kayak]

i dont think you should be able to wallbang brick at all

but ok

[sly ivy]

Caliber and bullet velocity should be considered to which walls are able to be penetrated

Definitely think there should be an established material list and their impact on damage and bullet velocity after penetration and if penetration is even possible

[karmic vapor]

brick is cheap as fuck man, it stops basically nothing. but anyway a mat list would be a great start to adding this

[sweet kayak]

that just seems annoying to get wallbanged through a brick tho

[sly ivy]

Apparently it can but should be tweaked for balancing

[sweet kayak]

well yeah in real life

[karmic vapor]

its a one brick wall

it ain't stopping a .22 lr

[sweet kayak]

its not real life tho

[karmic vapor]

so?

[sly ivy]

Maybe you are able to in mil sim mode and not in arcade?

[karmic vapor]

we are talking about adding mats

[sweet kayak]

for balance i dont think you should be able to walll bang through bricks

[karmic vapor]

right now there is brick, brick but looks like metal, and brick that looks like wood

there is no difference between anywall

[sly ivy]

It depends tho

[karmic vapor]

we are talking about adding new mats for walls.

[sly ivy]

I think you can wallbang metal containers but not steel pillars

[karmic vapor]

brick would be low tier, just above wood. but then we could have cement, reinforced concrete, steel. we could change the thickness of walls to actually matter, though that would mean a complete redesign of basically every building though it could be done.

but with brick being the most prevalent, an easy fix I think is the ability to shoot out small parts, like single bricks with enough damage. lot easier to implement than an entirely new system

[earnest ember]

i love banging walls

[quiet hinge]

wall bang deez nuts
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❌

[sly ivy]

I will bang you through a wall if you dont upvote

[quiet hinge]

[sly ivy]

Schlammjumper, i will find you lil bro

[quiet hinge]

[sly ivy]

Change your vote 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[quiet hinge]

nuh uh

[simple pond]

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Much simplier is dealing damage for brick walls like pickaxe does...

Yes, some milsim mode could implement that, but please remember that every player hate things that he cannot understand.

• semi-penetrable walls could not be explained in-game, same as...

• snipers that do not require preparations hates everyone, and every patch takes nerfing, instead of redesigning.

• m4a1 majority - as a rifle that hasnt weak sides

• insta kill mines - because the game speed is ultra high - you almost no chance to detect mine or prepare teammates, better to reborn silently and run again than hate

• insta kill nades - every guy has 2-3 nades as a gift and nade spam is our nowadays, and it works

am talking about THINGS that makes game worse.

They do that not just because its non-interesting, they work as they are, but you cannot do anything with that, so the gameplay disabled in this moment you have to just apply and agree - thats the point of "what things worst in anything", answer is "things that you MUST apply"....

So if the wall gets damage and you see that your wall is disappearing slowly - you could move away or risk. If the wall would be semi-penetrable - you just die by some reason, and hate the game.

[karmic vapor]

my man people understand wall penetration. its been around for decades.

[earnest ember]

billions of years*

[karmic vapor]

as for everything else in your message, its barely legible, wtf are you even saying?

[umbral wing]

imagine 127v127 on tensa

[earnest ember]

uh oh

[karmic topaz]

Only if we stop calling it Wallbangs and start calling it Bullet Penetration or Wall Penetration, as Wall Bang sounds like a 5 IQ toddler term.

[toxic trail]

would be a good way to balance smgs

[pallid schooner]

apart from the mp7 smgs are balanced already

[pallid schooner]

have you ever played any fps ever? wallbang is a pretty common term

[terse tartan]

I’m pretty sure every cs player calls it a wall bang

[sly ivy]

Did you really downvote because of a common video game term?

[karmic topaz]

I pressed both before I noticed lol

[sly ivy]

wallbangs or wall penetration

[normal finch]

make supports/recons guns do a like 30% damage through brick walls, and make the corrugated metal and wood ones 70% passthrough for all weapons

or smth like that imo

[sly ivy]

Yeah, good idea

[normal finch]

pretty much could copy valorants wallbang system thinking about it

[sly ivy]

True

[toxic trail]

could be nice to not end up shooting a railing on stairs for once xd

[earnest ember]

let me bang a wall, devs

[high halo]

yes its called a wallbang

[normal finch]

nerf the ump a bit and nerf the mp7 a bit more, then its allgood

[normal finch]

its time for wallfucking

[normal finch]

me penetrating the wall so goddamn hard

[toxic trail]

what about the groza isnt it just the pre nerf ump?

with more range

[normal finch]

the first shot kick makes it a lot less enjoyable to use than the ump, and the no quick mag doesent help either

pretty sure it runs slower

ill do a full comparison in a couple mins

[normal finch]

yeah the main drawbacks are the twice as long reload time and fs kick, and its slightly slower draw/ads/runspeed, but it does kill faster and have lower recoil after the first shot

[royal folio]

These would be to be internal walls only I think

[karmic vapor]

if there were new mats for walls they could be the outer walls too, but that could be more "damage makes hole" rather than general penetration

[sly ivy]

Also, wall banging may or may not let you bang femboys through walls

[quiet hinge]

😳

[normal finch]

@karmic topaz in shambles

[sly ivy]

Everytime you get wallbanged you should have a 1/100 chance for big letters to appear on your screen saying “you are the femboy who just banged through a wall :3”

[ripe sundial]

what

[limber valve]

Try to identify a cheater challenge (that would be a disaster)

[lyric jungle]

I swear I hit a wall bang on one of the first times I played the game... Are you sure that it's not already in the game, or could that have been desync?

[sly ivy]

Bad netcode

Could be

Or like peakers advantage

With bad ping

[lyric jungle]

The round hit the wall, and I got a hit marker... Wish I was able to run MedalTV whilst playing games, but it will cause lag as my PC is deep in the out of date. Although not to long ago I only upgraded my GPU from a 960 to a 2080 super. Every other spec is pretty much rendered junky

[sly ivy]

Rendering glitch?

[lyric jungle]

No, I'm talking about my PC specs lol

Only good specs I have are the GPU and PSU

[sly ivy]

Ok idk then

[sly ivy]

Either way, bullet bangs wall [GONE SEXUAL]

[sly ivy]

With the introduction of doors i think its a good time to reintroduce this suggestion with the addition of doors being wallbangable

[toxic trail]

agreed

[karmic topaz]

Would also love if window shutters were penetrateable

[toxic trail]

or breakable with 1 or 2 bullets

[unique ginkgo]

more gameplay variety ?

[void hawk]

This suggestion wont be implemented any time soon

the whole point of doors is that it somehow provides an extra bit of safety for new players and reduces chaos