Brittle Skulls, Brittle Bodies. Timed Armor Resupply. Associated Logistic Roles.

[jade sinew]

1-2 shot helmetless headshots with any weapon. Helmets buffed substantially with Exo helmet being untouched or marginally increased.

Health marginally increased to prevent center mass TTK being shorter than helmeted TTK. Alternatively buffing body armor to achieve the same effect.

Armor to be resupplied from HQ, aerial supply box, Humvees, APC's, tanks, RCB's, transport LittleBirds and Blackhawks. Each with a unique maximum capacity tailored to their perceived storage size.

Transport vehicles would be the dominant role in armor resupply so long as only they have the ability to drop their supplies. The black HQ box would make the most sense regarding its' appearance. They may as well have a "small ammo box" in them.

Implementing a logistical role like this would require issuing XP and adding mini-map markers to identify drops.

The time for armor resupply should be equivalent to the current HQ resupply timer. This way you can't just resupply armor in the middle of a firefight and you may find it necessary to disengage once you've lost your helmet.

I understand that this would completely change the flow of the game but I do believe this to be a possible answer to the current speed meta.

Maybe medics would actually be medics. Maybe wearing a helmet would actually be advisable in-game, just like in any real warzone.

[hidden compass]

so squad but more in depth. not a terrible idea, needs some work. but definitely a milsim only kind of thing if we take it all. the headshots actually being OHK on any weapon could both be good and bad, maybe something to test at some point in regular games

[grizzled roost]

guy wants to nerf everything but support so bad

[hidden compass]

literally nothing there nerfs anyone. and in fact buffs everyone but support

[solid pumice]

It definitely buffs support if they are able to get back exo armor

[hidden compass]

hanging from vehicles, or from HQ some buff. humvees might be a bit much considering how many of them there are, but other than that.

saying the ability to wear armor in the same life is like saying support has been buffed becasue they can respawn.

[willow frigate]

Hahahahaha

[feral quest]

Holy imagine an exo being able to resupply their own armour 💀 everyone would abuse it lmfao

[hidden compass]

I mean even in the original thing, he never mentioned self supplying armor. I'm assuming you guys misread the airdrop resupply for the supports backpack box?

[nocturne fable]

the real nuts is how you want killtimes to work out
4-6 is my personal ideal but...
shrug
honestly having most rifles have a more linear dropoff and giving the magnum bolt rifles the ability to boop through exo helmet at range seems reasonable

[feral quest]

Yeah but everyone call call those in its only 200 squad points

Like yeah they need an external tool but it's readily available can be placed almost anywhere and comes in fast as well

[solid pumice]

Didn’t misread, the ability for exo armor to be replenished anywhere is a buff to support.

[solid pumice]

I think the m200 used to oneshot exo when the ranger barrel still buffed damage. But that was only at high distance.

[hidden compass]

a buff, right. not like its one of the worst classes currently because nobody really uses its box because they just get killed and respawn, and their armor is more debuffs than help unless you run into an SMG user for your first fight and he's alone.

[solid pumice]

Idk what support style you play but I use it all the time.

[hidden compass]

ok then take that one away too. not like it exposes you, and is going to take another 8 seconds to replenish your kit once it finally lands. or however long the HQ box takes to refill. if you actually get that, you might as well have respawned it would have been faster.

[hidden compass]

yeah, you do. as the support player.

barely anyone else stops, and you have to chase down people to supply them

[solid pumice]

Plus I got people using my boxes pretty often I just shout get your ammo here and people come

[hidden compass]

I don't know man, I see people come up for bandages, and not much else. mayb 2-3 people. everyone else is fine with what they got because even if they die, they'll reup in 15 seconds.

[solid pumice]

It really just comes down to when you drop the box.

But either way this has gotten away from the original part of the thread.

[nocturne fable]

500 meters sounds fine for having it spike above defeating exo
same for L96

[steady pier]

OHK headshot kills would make the F2 a meta weapon

[jade sinew]

It would nerf support as everyone else's helmets would be competitive with Exo. Seriously dude!? Did you even read it?

[jade sinew]

and everyone else!

[grizzled roost]

yo shutup and stop tagging me

[jade sinew]

As you wish

[jade sinew]

Agreed on the exo part. 4-6 would be the value as long as you are helmeted, including the 1-2 for the exposed finish.

[jade sinew]

any gun*

[jade sinew]

Would the raised armor values of other helmets balance things out though?

[steady pier]

Like 10% of your head model is helmet, so probably not?

[jade sinew]

That would have to be changed then in order for it to balance. I was not aware of that.

[steady pier]

I mean, have you looked at the helmet in the character screen? all but the exo cover the back and top of your head, and almost nothing else

The pacing of this game with ohk headshots would just turn this into higher player count Siege

[jade sinew]

I always figured that any damage to the head was absorbed by the helmet first.

[steady pier]

Nope, you can still hit the head. I think it's hard to notice, and the hitboxes might be a little wierd as well

[jade sinew]

That almost entirely makes the case for buffing all other helmets then since they're lacking in coverage.

[steady pier]

I mean, one of the biggest complaints people normally have with this game is the armor system, so I do agree that it needs changing

[nocturne fable]

Hmm.
Killing people at 2-3 hits, armor withstands another 2-4.
sigh
the problem of anything approaching realism is that it becomes rapidly strange.

[nocturne fable]

Armor attachments would be interesting, I maintain.

[jade sinew]

That set up of 4-7 might fit into the "arcade style" the devs are going for.

I may consider changing the title of this thread just because of that

[nocturne fable]

Arcade tends towards faster 3-4 or 4-5
2x basic headshot meaning 2-3 hit headshot kills is about the upper limit
The problem is that 1 hit headshot proliferation leads to R6S itis
Why care about anything else if you can get ROF and just doink fools with the equivalent of a Random Crit