Don’t lock non-cosmetic items behind challenges

[tulip pebble]

In #dev-wip the recent posts imply non-cosmetic things will require people to do specific tasks to get. Why is this a thing? This means people can be forced to play in a way they don’t want to to get something. I would be ok if it was just limited to a subset of camos or charms, but locking things like ranger armour behind it? Why would you do that.

[chrome forum]

hope items can be unlocked both through challenges and level up

can choose to complete challenges for faster unlocks, or wait until you reach a sufficient level

[jaunty delta]

The challenge Oki used as an example was kinda shitty, so I hope he makes them reasonable

[ornate cedar]

...For a sniper player, that would take a very long time, so with the new update, they will be able to unlock an alternative armor by completing a few tasks:
make 1000 kills above 500 meters + destroy 50 gadgets.

It's an __alternative __they are not locking armor behind challenges.

[tulip pebble]

Considering currently there is no way to get ranger on support, this seems to imply otherwise

It is annoyingly vague on how it’s set up though.

[ornate cedar]

I overlooked that (don't play as support that much), you're right it's super vague. I guess we will see when the update goes live.

PS: imo people will get to rank 150 sooner than they will be able to complete the 1k kills at 500+ meters challenge.

[young notch]

No one is taking away your ability to do things as normal. This is for those who want to keep this equipment after prestige resetting

[tulip pebble]

The wording of the update notes implies it is

We would need confirmation from oki on what he means to know for sure though

[feral coral]

People asked for it. I’m unlikely to find a link to a post with a request, but there definitely was one.

[pulsar wind]

You should properly read the stuff you're going to write around.
Study the stuff before babbling about misconceptions.

[tulip pebble]

Any elaboration on what you’re actually talking about? There’s not much to study, it’s a handful of sentences

[uneven tree]

Bro leveling in the game is quite fast

The challenges are opcional

Lit, I'm started the prestige 2 yesterday and I leveled up from 0 to 45 in 4 hours

The weekly challenges helps a lot

[tepid knoll]

This post's fine print reads:
"I dont want to have to change anything im doing, or play any differently, and still be able to unlock everything in the game"

People are dying for new ways to play the game, and for new challenges. Their imagination only goes so far. This is an amazing change to the game and a very important step forward to combating the dull way to unlock things. Which is exp, and gun kills.

[tepid knoll]

Its a permanent unlock. Its supposed to be hard.

[crystal gull]

Im fine with pernament unlocks (if it presumably transfers to prestiges as well) but some requirements are a bit ridiculous
1k at 500m is bit too much for ranger recon armor

50 gadgets, whatever its not too bad

[tulip pebble]

That is true

But I do think it is concerning if it is indeed the only way to unlock many things that aren't just small cosmetic bits

[crystal gull]

I personally think its not that big of a deal that you have to unlock it like that

I just have a problem with the requirements

1k over 500m is really too much

Something has to be lowered

Yes it is very good armor but that is far too many kills for it

I also have a bit of a worry on how the entire thing is going to be implemented

Is it going to count kills from when the update drops or is it going to count lifetime kills with whatever gadget is required, say anti personel mines

[tulip pebble]

kills for gadgets are already tracked

so that shouldn't be a concern

[crystal gull]

Well hopefully it shouldnt

[tepid knoll]

nah it really isnt a whole lot for a perma unlock. The whole point to this is to get players something to do, not just for a few days. Cause we will be in the same place we are left off with. Nothing to do.

[tulip pebble]

I feel like most players will stop prestiging before they get that many kills at that range

[crystal gull]

Still think it is a bit too much
I mean, we will have other armors to unlock too

[tepid knoll]

Not when there is more insentive to prestige.

[tulip pebble]

I would agree with this being permanent unlocks with the challenges though provided you can still do all regular unlocks

[tepid knoll]

Its just one of the many issues with the game, if im going to be honest. Val with the prestige skins is another thing to help with that, with proper systems and challenges in place it will not be the only unlock you're looking at.

Put it this way, if thats the last unlock for the sniper class, aka the longest to get, if there are other things to unlock before that, it wont be as bad since focus will be on other things closer to being unlocked, and at the end of the day those kills could be already at 600 when its time to finally unlock it.

There's not those things in the game, but way it looks there might be, with things like Wallace's post blowing up.

[brazen vault]

If the challenges are gonna be like oki’s example then it’s going to be shitty. If they are more reasonable like 200 kills with each sniper or headshot kills I think it would be fine.

[twilit skiff]

they adding ranger to all classes? (just with challenges?)

[tulip pebble]

Not sure.

[twilit skiff]

and if the engineer one is like tank kills or something you think it would count previous tank kills?

[tulip pebble]

I think it would.

[twilit skiff]

that would be very nice

[hollow valley]

from what oki wrote in there
yes probably...

[jaunty echo]

1k at 500m is definitely too much, but otherwise I love the idea of having long/short term goals for drip I keep even after prestige

[tepid knoll]

you unlock it, for the rest of the game, and it never resets.