#Certain guns need buffs

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fervent hare
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Posted this in generel but thought it might be useful to have it here. Certain weapons are outclassed or are unnecessarily bad and could use some buffs. The ACR, AK5C, MP5, PP19, SG550, MG36, every pistol but the Glock and Unica could use some hard buffs, MK20 and every sniper other than M200 or L96 need buffs or at least need to be diversified. F2000, Famas, MK14, and maybe the Kriss Vector need some minor buffs to put them in line with the rest of the cast, I probably missed a few but those are the guns I can say with confidence need some help

hollow gazelle
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snipers need a rework and imo the acr and famas are fine as is
everything else on the list 💯

jade swan
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Vector is fine as is, still a meta weapon for the meta slaves.

fervent hare
fickle sapphire
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yes please buff ak5c its definitely not actually good and just held back by reload speed similar to the groza

dire knoll
autumn valley
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HB not included, opinion invalid

craggy sky
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I don't think a game can make so many weapons all useful or unique; this is not CSGO. Some guns indeed have unique characteristics but are not useful enough, such as the ASVAL and HB; these do need some adjustments.

there are inevitably some weapons better than others, but in BattleBit, there is probably no weapon that is overall better than all others (FAL may have a slight tendency in this direction), and there is also no weapon so bad that it cannot achieve kills.

mystic leaf
hollow gazelle
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it's a funny pick, tho a pretty inefficiant one

boreal grove
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Only thing I disagree with is the famas. Thing is an absolute beast if you use it right. Destroys in short to medium ranges and can touch longer ranges if you mitigate horizontal recoil and control vertical. Has excellent damage and fire rate.
Not that I’d be upset about a buff. But it definitely shreds.

boreal grove
jade swan
fervent hare
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oh also i forget to add the mk14 to list of small buffs

mossy stone
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Vector meta weapon crazy take

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It just needs to have 20 m drop damage like other smgs

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Or damage nerf reverted

scenic nest
cedar prairie
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ACR was buffed from 27 to 28. It has fast movespeed, big mag, fast reload, fast ads. It's a great gun that's basically a SMG in AR form.

Ak5c on assault is good with reload speed buff.

Sg550 is the mid/long range gun but more mid range than AUG due to higher h- recoil but faster rate of fire. It also got buffed from 27 to 29 dmg

Famas was buffed with lower h-coil. It was enough to be a decent laser to like 70m.

MP5 is just average. If it got a better starting drop off, it would contend with AR

F2000 was buffed so it's starting drop off is 75m.

jade swan
fossil crystal
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Don't know why people harp on the f2k, it just requires a little better aim than other guns. Delicious headshots

kind oyster
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All the SG550 needs is a horizontal recoil reduction tbh and it'll be fine. I haven't really ran into a build that makes it feel good, just "good enough"

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G36C also needs a ammo buff of like 5 rounds. Been a ton of times with it where I've gotten a guy down to two bullets and I still had to reload after killing a few other people in the process.

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Or it could just get a reload speed buff too, since it's abysmally slow even with mag dropping.

limber lagoon
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Snipers need some diversification but every gun you listed are A-OK except maybe AK5C which is just a worse AK74 and F2000 I'd love to be 25 damage considering the PP19 does that.

RSH is better than UNICA, Desert Eagle gives you a mag and the other pistols are fast firing.

Most weapons are totally fine.

fossil crystal
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F2k getting 25 damage would have it competing with, and outperforming the famas. If people really want to see it buffed, a further recoil buff or fixing scope bounce would probably be okay

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Or maybe velocity

limber lagoon
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Perhaps slight more velocity too to make it a longer range viable gun like the AUG but weaker but as a result with less recoil.

fossil crystal
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Unfortunately accuracy is currently regarded as a worthless stat

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Not sure if it would help or not, since no one is 100% sure whether it affects ads cone of fire or not

limber lagoon
fossil crystal
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I personally think it does, since I run F2K and Ultimax a lot, but good luck convincing the rest of the playerbase

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Everybody thinks that the only thing it affects is hipfire spread

scenic nest
limber lagoon
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Its the easiest stat to see it doing its job.

scenic nest
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i am currently out in the ocean on a ship and i can't do it

limber lagoon
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That sounds very interesting.

kind oyster
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Not really a huge impact on a lot of weapons at range

plain smelt
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if accuracy was actually important i think we wouldve seen it changed in a balance patch

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but so far none have mentioned accuracy

scenic nest
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it's barely noticeable on anything but long range so it's entirely irrelevant for most people

upbeat plover
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Mp5 is God like wtf

fervent hare
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i want to use it so bad but that thing sucks

marsh violet
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I like the H&K slap

plain smelt
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mp5 is still fun

fervent hare
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if a smg can't beat a standard ar at close range im not gonna use it because imma just use an ar

cedar prairie
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I'd pick famas over mp5 now

kind oyster
sharp sequoia
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i've been rocking the ump-45

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imo the ump needs a firerate buff as literally every other smg can win a gunfight against the ump

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but it makes it all the more satisfying if you win gunfights with a mildly underpowered smg

cedar prairie
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Ump can kill heavy and normal in 4 shots. Not underpowered at all

sharp sequoia
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it has the highest damage of all smg's but the lowest firerate

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it's powerful if you can kill someone before they kill you

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but it's easily outclassed by faster guns

hollow gazelle
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ump just requires aim
after that it's easy mode

fervent hare
kind oyster
# fervent hare g36c is good

Fire rate makes it feel jank with only 30 rounds, I can kill 3 people if I'm lucky with one mag and reloads are painful.

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Where with the AK74 I can get like 5 people before I need to reload

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So a lot of my deaths have been because I didn't have a extra few rounds in the mag to kill them

vivid folio
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they should give the mp5 its midrange capability back to where it was (like the original smg nerf idea) but ill tell you what id be mad since im about to gold it lmao

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would actually make it a viable choice instead of just using the mp7/p90

green sable
# hollow gazelle snipers need a rework and imo the acr and famas are fine as is everything else o...

why even use the acr when the m4 is more accurate, has higher damage, and only slightly worst vertical recoil? or even the hk419 which is still more accurate than the acr, higher firerate and more damage. the acr is ok but it needs either a damage increase/ more accurate/ increase in rpm/ or simply a really quick reload to make it more competitive to other assault rifles/carbines. the acr is ok but it doesnt do anything great

hollow gazelle
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accuracy does basically nothing
ads speed is better
movement speed is better
and muzzle flash scale is better
and also don't forget the quick b mag

cedar prairie
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Acr is great. Just depends on your playstyle. Movespeed for hit and run. It's low recoil can just beam someone down. It's like an mp5 with range but less RoF.

Hk419 has high recoil and long reload.

finite hull
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acr doesent need a buff, ak5c doesent need a buff, mp5 isnt bad but it needs a reason to be picked over the mp7, pp19 is a little weak, sg is fine, mg36 is fine

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the acr and sg550 are nobrain picks over the m4 currently

upbeat plover
vivid folio
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Its a more accurate mp7 but not as good DPS. I have 9000 kills with it. It definitely rips but its not as good as the others imo still good but not as good as it once was.

cedar prairie
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MP5 is a laser with <1.0 recoil. It has the furthest reach next to UMP since it has a higher base damage

vivid folio
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its still a shadow of its former self

plain smelt