Nvidia Geforce now (Cloud gaming service)

[versed burrow]

Basically a cloud gaming service allowing you to play games without good hardware
This program also blocks the use off cheats completely!

[warped socket]

What is the essence of your suggestions?

[sullen crater]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-suspicious-look-suspicious-doubt-dog-doubt-gif-23680990

[versed burrow]

Making the product more availeble for other people like me?

i am using a chromebook with nvidia geforce now
Nvidia hosts the game on a VM
Where u cannot acces anything else but the game

[dusky basin]

You know it is not needed right?

[versed burrow]

Can i play it on a chromebook?

No
Exactly

[dusky basin]

What percentage would be a gn playerbase?

[versed burrow]

5 to 20

[dusky basin]

Even not 0.00001%

[versed burrow]

Sure buddy!

[dusky basin]

You know 20% would be 250k players

Tho it is not worth for bbr

Because you can play it on 2010s pc

@versed burrow

Also doing it for less than 1k players is not worth

[versed burrow]

, you would be stunned how many poeple used cloudgaming

And yes it is worth it, more profit without doing anything...

Just sending some emails

You know nvidia and boosteroid?

[dusky basin]

If you can give me data on monthly usage

I might agree

[versed burrow]

are you a moderator or developer?

if yes u can accces the date yourself

if not

why are u even talking here

[dusky basin]

Mothly usage of gfn

[dusky basin]

Do you see my ranks

[versed burrow]

Yeah member?

and patroen baker

no developer or moderator

[dusky basin]

So what diffrence

[versed burrow]

u are a user

which i am trying to be

[dusky basin]

Because they will give you same answer

[versed burrow]

just weird your whole point to go against making a game more availeble

espacially for poeple who cant afford something but 10 euros a month they can...

[dusky basin]

Do you want mod to say same thing?

[rapid jungle]

"why no console support 🤓"
part 2 electric boogaloo but even more scuffed

[versed burrow]

there is no boogaloo

nvidia keeps everything updated themselves

its all on nvidia sides after approval from the developers

and nvdia of course

[strong garnet]

just spontaneously create a copy of battlebit on a fresh pc that can run it and play that instead

it’s not that hard

[versed burrow]

they hosts vms

that are automated

look into it

pretty amazing stuff

[rapid jungle]

also, the game costs about 8€ rn
15 under normal curcumstances
and this game was specifically made to run on everything
my old laptop that could barely run minecraft without mods could've ran this game

[versed burrow]

Where do u miss the point?

[rapid jungle]

if you have a computer with mouse and keyboard, you can run this game lmao

[strong garnet]

why can’t you play it on a Chromebook is it a hardware limitation or something with the software side of the thing

[strong garnet]

what do you mean my monitor setup plugged into the wall can’t run bbr 😭😭

[rapid jungle]

unless it's mac, eww

[rapid jungle]

certified "does this thing have wifi?" moment

[dusky basin]

@jolly blaze op asked for mod to Answer his question. Why this game wont be on gfn.

[sullen crater]

Prob a school computer or something, those usually limit what you can do

[strong garnet]

fuckin school computer 💀

[sullen crater]

My school gave us chromebooks for school use cuz they were cheap.

[rapid jungle]

💀

[dusky basin]

@versed burrow in 1h you will have mod Answer

[strong garnet]

I had like a shitty dell craptop I forgot the model

it was maybe 50 bucks online

[sullen crater]

A school wouldn't know about geforce now and unlikely they would block it

[jolly blaze]

what?

[sullen crater]

Why no "Geforce Now"?

[dusky basin]

I cant answer his question because i'am not a dev or mod

[jolly blaze]

I can not answer his question because I am not Oki

but from personal experience with such gaming "platforms" or what you would like to call it

it never really lives up to the real experience

but I can look if a dev might want to answer this question

[dusky basin]

So like never?

[jolly blaze]

or someone more intertwined witht he inner workings of bbr

[slate lagoon]

Cloud gaming is horrible and everyone who tries to make it a thing should be ashamed

[covert fable]

I mean even if, let’s say oki does manage to get bbr on to geforce now.. doesn’t he have to pay a fee of some sort? I don’t think nvidia would just up and ok it out of nowhere

[sullen crater]

If there are fee's Oki would be paying for like 5 people using geforce now + deal with whatever problems come with the whole VM thing

[versed burrow]

i got my server located in my own countrie

and that counts for almost all of europe

and america

[covert fable]

Gl trying to emulate windows on a chrome book in most cases

ChromeOS is just mobile phone OS with a few extra things like gforce now

[versed burrow]

i just use chome browser

so i dont know what u are talking about LoL

its basically a glorified tablet

[covert fable]

But you are trying to play on a chromebook, right?

[versed burrow]

with android

[covert fable]

Yeah exactly my point, google just uses their own operating system software (ChromeOS) on chromebooks

But if it’s not too out of the way for oki to somehow make it work.. sure why not?

I mean it might not be the most ideal gaming setup but more accessibility is good right?

[versed burrow]

Exactly!

[past wigeon]

Sorry for the "Necro posting" but I believe i can give a good addition to the topic.

GFN at least in south America has a relative good feedback from it's user base, a couple months ago i contacted Nvidia GFN support to "help" the devs of Vrising, basically all a dev need to do is contact their support team.

There would be a link here but it got deleted.

From my personal experience:

• It's a fairly good service
• the ping isn't a problem because of the ISP (20-50 Nvidia ping, 0 server ping) note: this was on battlefield.
• Incredible graphics on the most low end machines (I played Baldur's Gate 3 on ultra settings on my cellphone).

The bad side:

• Updates, even tho automatic can take between 20 minutes to 3 hours.
• if you have a bad internet the ping can go to 3000 and disconnect you.

Last time I saw, the service was free for the devs, there's many games epic gave for free that run on the service.

A funny thing I found out, the Google plugin in tabletop simulator can indeed run GeForce now (this may crash your graphics card)

Even tho people from first world countrys can't believe this to be a good service, third world countrys are expensive af to buy even a shitty PC.
The Brazilian minimum wage is less than 285$ for example.

If the devs want, but i don't think they do, I can give the contact of Andrew Fear from GFN dev support, I just like the idea because I have a high end PC and my little brother uses GeForce Now on my TV.

[past wigeon]

That's from Abya, Nvidia GFN partner in LATAM

Note that "There is no cost for developers"

Maybe the best people to give a real feedback from the devs side would be other developers, I know indie stone (project Zomboid devs) to be very accessible as well as streets of rogue dev Matt Dabrowski.

(I played both games on GFN)

[heady imp]

so another google stadia?

we already seen that flop

[past wigeon]

Not sure, google stadia haven't got to my country but GFN has been 2+ years and it continues growing

[heady imp]

no just no, this isnt gonna work

[past wigeon]

I have the privilege of having a gaming PC, don't really care if it gets implemented, but at least I have the brain to know there's people who haven't got the money to have a PC

[past wigeon]

Unless you really used the service, what is your opinion based on?

[heady imp]

i dont have faith

[past wigeon]

Lmao

[heady imp]

i dont think bbr should go there, low playerbase and would probably cost a lot of money

[past wigeon]

Yeah but jokes aside, it's not for us who already play, it's for those who don't already

[past wigeon]

Probably?

Wym, it's free...

[heady imp]

devs have to pay to get it on nvidia, i can bet

[past wigeon]

Oh my 🤣

Look at the prints

[heady imp]

they have to pay for the cloud servers, or just get a cut thats like 15%

[past wigeon]

What?

Where did you get this?

[heady imp]

not a good idea, the game has a low playerbase

[past wigeon]

Ok but, can you give where exactly you read that they need to pay to put bbr on Nvidia?

[heady imp]

nvidia has to spend money on the cloud servers, devs will sell game , nvidia takes a cut, thats most likely

[past wigeon]

No

[heady imp]

also i have never heard of geforce now

[past wigeon]

Can you give me time to explain?

[heady imp]

sure

[past wigeon]

Basically:

• you (user) pay about 10$ to Nvidia to use their service with your games.
• if you own (let's say) Project Zomboid, you can play it, if you don't, you cannot

You can link steam, epic, Ubisoft and Xbox store.

I believe their business model is:
The more games they have, more people pay the monthly subscription (about 10$)

Devs wouldn't want to give a % of their revenue, that (I believe) is why they don't charge anything, is more appealing for devs as they just need the API

Yeah, it doesn't see like a rentable business model, but I think that's why stadia sucked, they charged devs

[heady imp]

so you link your steam, but use servers to play on any device

[past wigeon]

Yes

[heady imp]

even if it doesnt reach the hardware requirements on steam

the servers will do all the proccessing

[past wigeon]

Basically is not a cloud gaming (aka gamepass) it's a virtual machine dedicated to games

You don't "rent" the games, you use the games you purchased on steam

[heady imp]

yeah i get that

but if i have a potato computer, i can still play it

[past wigeon]

Yes

I studied in a federal institute in Brazil, we made some tests in a "internet lab"

Anything that runs chrome runs GFN

Like Raspberry pi or android

So yeah, battlebit runs on a potato computer

But Baldur's Gate 3 runs on a potato computer on ultra using GeForce Now

[past wigeon]

I think the only good thing by adding it is:

• battlebit running on mobile.
• battlebit running on smart TV.
• battlebit running on things it shouldn't ||apple||.

[heady imp]

but since the cloud gaming server is well, on a server, there will be input lag

[past wigeon]

Yes

[heady imp]

which is one reason why something similar like stadia flopped, at its core it was unplayable

[past wigeon]

Yes I agree

But, it's free, like...
If Oki thinks it's appealing, I think there would be people using it

CS:GO and Hunt: Showdown are there lmao

[heady imp]

but wont the same happen for geforce now? its only been 4 years i dont think the technology has advanced as much for servers like that

[formal shadow]

Of course, but a fair amount of people use the service regardless, ‘cause latency isn’t a huge deal really

[heady imp]

im just comparing it to stadia mostly since thats one kind of cloud service gaming platform that used the technology, and it was horrible

[past wigeon]

Well, four years ago we didn't have Starlink™

[formal shadow]

geforce now existed before stadia

stadia just didn’t offer many games

[heady imp]

sure, but the servers were still horrible.

[past wigeon]

I think like me, you should have a PC that runs BB right?

[heady imp]

i have one

but i know not everyone has

[past wigeon]

Exactly we wouldn't use the GFN

Like, better play with lag than not play at all

[heady imp]

but in a game like bbr with very short ttk and all, it may not be a fun experience

[formal shadow]

Depending on where you live it’s only a pretty small latency addition

[heady imp]

so many people wont use geforce now, because it wont be fun

[formal shadow]

For a ton of people it’ll be barely different to what they play with regularly

[heady imp]

idk i am really skeptical about cloud gaming

[past wigeon]

When I played Hunt: Showdown, didn't really see a big difference, unless we are E-Sport players, it wouldn't have a impact on us ||mere mortals||

[past wigeon]

Same, I gave it a chance tho

ISP really helps

[formal shadow]

Apparently they don’t actually allow you to use GeForce now if you have over 80ms delay to their data centres

[past wigeon]

Not really an issue, there's people on Amazon rainforest that have lower ping playing on servers in Argentina

In the end, our opinions are only opinions, let's hope Oki reads this thread and say what he decides...

[waxen warren]

Not really, couldn't place my finger on the difference, but im pretty sure gfn has way more games and and is overall a better service.
Plus its picking up some traction in most places.

[waxen warren]

Well, yeah. They charge customers directly. Not the devs

[past wigeon]

Adding to the topic, this is Baldur's Gate 3 in ultra settings on a Television being played by a tv controller

Note that It isn't a virtual reality feature and the pose is for entertainment purposes only

Certified "it runs on Internet™" moment ✅

If anyone still needs more clarification, I plan on doing a Video to show the Input Lag in the near future

And if anyone guesses it is running on the playstation shown in the image, look at the HUD

[tribal hawk]

Could be a tight idea. Could be a better way than playing on a 30fps pc. Or not at all like Mac. Input lag could be a huge factor since gameplay can be so fast. Joeever there are a lot of 20 kill players on 254 server after 45min... so it's not like they'll encounter the past 10pm sweats on eu

@neat cliff u gonna ask oki?

[formal shadow]

TABG did it without issues

Doesn’t seem hard for indie devs to do

[neat cliff]

[tribal hawk]

if its not too time expensive oc. but if it wouldnt cause alot of trouble why not

[waxen warren]

Its litterally just telling geforce now that you want your game on there.

[past wigeon]

How to say you haven't read the thread without saying you haven't read the thread

So, you did read that it's free and you do not need a deal with Nvidia

Unless PZ, SoR and the other 10+ indie games on it are actually 3A mainstream games

[past wigeon]

It's free...

[tribal hawk]

18:21][EN] [Weirdo] Terminalintel: , just let this post die. all has been done

[stark compass]

why would people be against this lmfao

[limber cape]

cause stadia and online online-games tend to suck unless you are right next to the server.

[hollow plume]

If you cant run battlebit normally I highly doubt you can even boot up nvidia geforce lmao💀

[formal shadow]

That isn’t a downside

That is just a limitation of an upside.

[past wigeon]

It runs on mobile phones, linux, apple devices, google chrome, smart tv's, wym? it's basically for non PC user's

[past wigeon]

Anyone can test it for free and get it's on conclusions, you have to wait on a queue tho...

[dusky basin]

You can play it on linux

[past wigeon]

So basically for non Linux and PC users lmao

[dusky basin]

Mac olayers are able to play too

[sleek peak]

Well it runs on toasters, but it would be nice to play max settings on toasters too.

[tidal geyser]

or have fiber internet. server is a state away from me, have 15ms of latency

[limber cape]

yes, but alot of places in the US and I assume in other countries too the ISP does not want to give out that service unless there is a multitude of customers wanting it, so basically only cities and very large towns

[past wigeon]

My brother in christ, server is a country away from me and i have 20ms of latency

[true spruce]

I don't understand why people say no, if it can bring a few more players to this dying game I'm not saying no.

I went to take a look at the game catalog there are a lot of independent games

[young scarab]

Ye, same

Also seems like it worth nothing, like just contact nvidia

[past wigeon]

Sooooo...
Nothing new about this? I didn't want to be the one necroposting on here but couldn't find anything from the staff.

[limber cape]

The staff never talked about this, even once.

[past wigeon]

Yeah, exactly 🤪

[limber cape]

why would you expect a dev response to it then?

[past wigeon]

Maybe, just maybe, someone that isn't me knows more about this ☝️🤓

[past wigeon]

I'll assume the same as below, got auto modded for the reddit and Nvidia links, they probably know by now that there are people wanting to use GeForce Now ||and that it is free||, let's hope for the best. 😍

[peak tree]

Will the game be added to geforce now?

[onyx urchin]

I looked a little into it and it seems to be pretty easy. There's no cost, no chance nvidia says no and all the work the devs need to do look doable
I was gonna add a link to it but I can't so just google Steam Cloud Play (Beta) and it'll be the first link

[peak tree]

I still don't understand if the game will be added or not? Sorry for my poor English

[teal field]

It's been ~2 years...

[meager scaffold]

Doesnt seem like it anytime soon

[peak tree]

Sadly

[surreal zinc]

why does this have so many down votes?

[teal field]

Idk, I myself see no merit in outsourcing gaming since the money spent in sum could simply be invested in a new pc. +Latency issues. I dont know any service provider for that that isn't using weird price tiers that almost necessitates to buy at least mid to high tier.

[tame depot]

The game's dead, it's cooked, the devs ain't doing shit mate lmfao

[meager scaffold]

Upcoming playtest:

[tame depot]

I'm not holding my breath tbh but we'll see

[dusty barn]

What is vm

[surreal zinc]

virtual machine

[dusty barn]

Me personally I’d want it