balmy frost
Currently, what is barbed wire?
Nothing.
Does nothing.
Hurts nothing.
No negatives for walking through it except you slow down.
Barbed wire in history was a death trap for soldiers who ran through it.
It should be in BBR an area denial object against enemies, forcing them to use one of their C4s or take another path.
Make Barbed Wire good.
main oyster
It did do damage but people were exploiting exp by getting damaged then getting healed.
candid sundial
Not a bad take, but I think you underestimate the value of slowing someone down. Prevents flanks. If people used it more often, it would really show its strength. Most people don't use buildings near enough and underestimate their value.
low mortar
Not a bad take, but I think you underestimate the value of slowing someone down....
If you ask a lot of the current player base, there's not as many who appreciate a well fortified postion and see it as Camping it's not respected.
candid sundial
If you ask a lot of the current player base, there's not as many who appreciate ...
don't even need a well fortified position
getting caught out, dropping to the ground and putting a low wall in front of me has saved my ass and gotten me more kills way more often then I expected
thats the value I think most people don't realize
its akin to the transition in fortnight from “bases" back when it was released to the modern spam-style building.
Think we are still in the "bases" stage
? nothing to do with the suggestion dude.
main oyster
Ah wrong thread my bad.
balmy frost
Not a bad take, but I think you underestimate the value of slowing someone down....
"Camping" Is a term by elitist assholes generally.
Who cares what they think, they can go to counterstrike if someone holding a position is considered "Bad"
balmy frost
Not a bad take, but I think you underestimate the value of slowing someone down....
I think "Slowing Down" Is good but it would triple the use of barbed wire IF it did damage.
As well
low mortar
I think "Slowing Down" Is good but it would triple the use of barbed wire IF it ...
it'd probably have to be set at a decimal amount of damage below 1, taking the practicality of adding damage to make it too slow to grind exp from.
obtuse sundial
it'd probably have to be set at a decimal amount of damage below 1, taking the...
Or just make healing damage done by barbed wire give you 0 XP
candid sundial
I think "Slowing Down" Is good but it would triple the use of barbed wire IF it ...
Yeah, but that’s kind of the problem.
Think of it like this.
Right now, we are at the bottom of a curve that represents percentage of the player base that uses buildings, or barbed wire specifically.
If left alone, I expect that the usage of buildings will increase along this curve, as the player base explores new mechanics to improve their gameplay.
If you add damage to the barbed wire, as you said, maybe the usage triples. But it also shortens that curve so that all of a sudden, barbed wire is absolutely everywhere, and the usage will still be growing.
As a rule of thumb, players hate crowd control devices. Slows, stuns, flashbangs, etc.
In short order, it will be the new broken mechanic that every player hates because you can’t get anywhere.
On top of exacerbating other issues, like 25-33% sniper class picks in any game, or maps with not much cover, etc.
low mortar
Or just make healing damage done by barbed wire give you 0 XP
I'm unsure if the game can differentiate the type of damage being healed; at most it just knows how much of it was done by barb wire.
candid sundial
I think people underestimate the delicate balance that is “enjoyable gameplay”. It’s super easy to fuck up, and there are big penalties for doing so. Losing 25% of an already small player base, or showing your player base that you keep making (not that they are currently) mistakes will lead to complete abandonment.
AAA studios can make comebacks. (Battlefield 2042, kind of; no mans sky, etc). But that remains to be seen for smaller dev teams.
misty dome
i did suggest this on barbwire way back. instead of damaging make it cause a unique bleed that only gets triggered if you stay on the barbwire and will kill you if you stayed for too long, but if you manage to escape the barbwire it would feel nothing happens so people dont abuse the healing stuff. slow will still be there tho.
low mortar
i did suggest this on barbwire way back. instead of damaging make it cause a uni...
This is actually a solid suggestion.
it'd be like the map border or going into enemy territory where it just kills you, and couts it as a suicide or what ever.
hazy moss
It did do damage but people were exploiting exp by getting damaged then getting ...
XP gain could be reduced to compensate for the damage coming back, like how repair xp was gutted due to people boosting.
Probably isn’t the ideal solution, but tbh I don’t think removing the damage to stop xp boosting was a better alternative to this problem, as gameplay wise it’s a nerf to stop a “bad actor” issue.
low mortar
If something makes moderating the TOS a pain in the ass, it's probably better that thing just stop functioning for a while 