#Revert Supply Box Change

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rigid olive
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I dislike the idea of snipers not being able to order a supply box, that nerfs the recon role yet another time for no gain in anything

According to Oki, this was nothing intended to be pushed to the game.

Oki: Checked on this, this is not intended push guys.
Me: "This item cannot be used as Recon role" is a String which needed to be programmed though, anything on that?
Oki: Vilaskis thought we wanted to add it this while this was just a topic in sniper balance discussion, I just checked with him and he though it was something we were adding.
Me: so this means this was not planned for a future update?
Oki: in feedback team, we have a huge discussion with sniper rebalance, this is also in that topic discussed and decided to not touched.
==> NOT an intended thing, therefor a bug for now, recons will still be able to order supply boxes in the future, will be reverted next update

Update: Oki: Fixed with the hotfix that was just pushed

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Recons are, at this point, heavily disadvantges based on what a recon is, now we can not even order ammo for us? We have no ~20 shots we can take before we - as sniper! - have to rush into the close-medium range combat to restock on ammo? thats not something I like and I think that change just does nothing for the "sniper problem" that existed in oki's head

rustic wagon
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did that actually happen lmfaooooooooooooooooo

left plover
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Run ranger chest

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But supply box is kinda dumb to remove

cunning vapor
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jesus christ

upper flume
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wow

wide steeple
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bruh

leaden quest
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What the fuck?

cunning vapor
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who is pushing for recon nerf after nerf

rustic wagon
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Oki wakes up, hits a god tier snipe, and then kills recon again

wide steeple
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now ill have to run the stupid vest so i can keeps shooting

rustic wagon
left plover
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It’s because he won’t fix spawncamping by adding additional area where you can’t shoot.

grave rampart
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standard stuff: if you don't play another Medic+C4+Vector then fuck you, game was fun cya xD

leaden quest
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Some recon hater got the oki blackmail.

cunning vapor
gilded agate
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recon was already heavily disadvantaged
why nerf it more

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like
bruh

rigid olive
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just spread this suggestion, its a change where I really ask myself "why?"

wet roost
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Damn, that's harsh. Oki prolly wanted to get rid off snipers sitting in one place with supply boxes but kinda goes against all the changes that were put in place already

rigid olive
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I feel like the recon class is barely anything "recon" now, you are literally fucked in every possible way when you want to play as a recon and not some "recon-medic" fusion, you literally can not snipe...

leaden quest
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All it does is encourage sniping from spawn even more. It doesn't matter if people can track down exactly where you are if they can't get near you. It doesn't matter if you can't restock ammo on the spot if you have a resupply box in spawn.

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ranger vest with ssg 20rm exists though, other rifles like the L96 with a 15rm is better

rigid olive
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conceptually, a recon should be everywhere but in the close combat (like 150m+) area of a match, that change just pushes recon into the area where they should not be

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dreamy scroll
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wow, didnt even see this change. this sucks hard

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rigid olive
glossy iron
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rigid olive
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that requires support players actively resupplying, which does not happen often from what I have seen

pine vault
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are you actually serious?????

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pine vault
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we can no longer spawn supplies, this shit is so lame tf

leaden quest
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You’re kidding. This has to be a kink for oki at this point

pine vault
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sometimes i spawn it 70% of the time for bandages

rigid olive
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I guess, just spread the word and make people vote on that, I cant be the only one that thinks that this change is for nothing

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rigid olive
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Recon player should not be forced into the close range combat situations in any shape or form, this now actively does that which breaks the concept of a recon equipped with a DMR or sniper rifle

leaden quest
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What is the possibly actually logical explanation for 1 class and only 1 class being unable to use resupply. This shit is comical

glossy iron
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it was already bad enough that recon can't build hesco (although that can actually be justified)

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taking supply crates is just too much

rigid olive
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Recon is the most disadvanteged class there is now, no?

glossy iron
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if you're not level 150 you're not getting anywhere, no joke

rigid olive
leaden quest
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I like playing recon especially assualt-con but constantly nerfing/cutting/adding to recon is begging the question "why not just remove it"

glossy iron
rigid olive
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what do you mean? the change with the sniper box? thats live

glossy iron
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bruh

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can oki actually use the test build for its purpose instead of rolling out shitty changes immediately

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rigid olive
glossy iron
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also this was an official server, correct? i know some community servers have different game rules and whatnot

rigid olive
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this is an official server, yes

glossy iron
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wow

rigid olive
glossy iron
leaden quest
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anything else get quietly nerfed for recon?

pine vault
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this shit is bulshit

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leaden quest
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We need an oki nerfing recon progressive clown meme stat.

foggy osprey
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Either revert this or buff Recon mag + gadget count.

(Pairing up with a support teammate can get around it tho)

ivory ether
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Yet another recon nerf 😐

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When is recon gonna get buffs?

rigid olive
glossy iron
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next up they're gonna remove medium scopes

leaden quest
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Or buff sniper rifle damage so our shots actually have a reason for no supply box

ivory ether
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gilded agate
dreamy scroll
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no scopes allowed

gilded agate
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XD

glossy iron
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you WILL bolt manually
you WILL glint when aiming
you WILL run out of ammo

rigid olive
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I would love to know the reasons on why this change was a) made, and b) snug into the game without mentioning

gilded agate
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next up he just entirely removes the scroll menu
recon doesn't get to build, ping or request orders

glossy iron
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the only shadow update that was generally approved was changing slip from 2.4x to 2.0x

rigid olive
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assumptions on b) would either be benefit of the doubt: forgot to mention, or, the bad alternative: intentionally snug in to avoid backlash for yet another sniper nerf... if the bad alternative would be the true one, I would have a bad feeling about the future of the game (I assume a, personally)

gilded agate
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then he takes away the ability to open the map as recon

grave rampart
ivory ether
ivory ether
leaden quest
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bf4 is fun still

rigid olive
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The thing is, that's LITERALLY all recons can do, not to mention what Oki wants for snipers.
thats what I have been saying, the recon is conceptually someone that "camps", if you do not want to have snipers playing as snipers, remove sniper rifles and the class outright

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you want to play as a recon but the game does everything possible to prevent you playing how the class is in inherent nature

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# leaden quest Explain

The slip is a speed type acog with its previous 2.4x it was easy to use as a scope or holo sight king of the bunch

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main cargo
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Controversial take but I think sniping last patch was one of the main reasons why this game's playerbase is dying off - the only people left are those who enjoy sniping/afk gameplay and those who don't snipe but can tolerate being beamed from 1000 meters by m200 campers. Most infantry players that I talked to heavily disliked how a lot of the popular maps cater towards sniping gameplay (open areas with no cover)

glossy iron
# leaden quest Explain

oki secretly changed the slip scope to 2.0x when it was previously 2.4x, many more people are using it now

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pine vault
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the EASIEST SOLUTION and the one the MANY community servers have that solve the sniper issue IS LIMIT how many recons there can be PER SQUAD 3~2, if they want to make a separate squad because all other have max recons then they wont be able to spawn in buildables nor supplies and this solves the ISSUE not these DUMB NERFS

rigid olive
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just limit sniper per squad, would also work

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hello oki

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summer swift
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Checked on this, this is not intended push guys.

rigid olive
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lmfao

glossy iron
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how did that happen

leaden quest
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"Not intended" ok.....

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Not intended to be noticed yet

modern gate
rigid olive
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"This item cannot be used as Recon role" is a String which needed to be programmed though, anything on that?

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or is it more of a "This item cannot be used as %s role"?

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summer swift
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Vilaskis thought we wanted to add it this while this was just a topic in sniper balance discussion, I just checked with him and he though it was something we were adding.

summer swift
leaden quest
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here's a idea, limit the CLASS

rigid olive
summer swift
rigid olive
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awesome, thanks for clarifying, transparency goes a long way

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i will update the thread accordingly

main cargo
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oki what are your thoughts on sniping in relation to the health of the game currently?

rigid olive
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@summer swift good for a conclusion? ==> NOT an intended thing, therefor a bug for now, recons will still be able to order supply boxes in the future

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should be if i didnt misinterpret something

summer swift
rigid olive
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good thing, thanks!

summer swift
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On next update this will be reverted.

dreamy scroll
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🎉 yay!

pastel badger
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yay

leaden quest
pastel badger
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finally somethin gud happening

summer swift
leaden quest
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Awsome

pine vault
# summer swift coming from bf4, used to seeing dmr's on engineers

sorry for the ping but would you be willing to revert the smoke trails but instead add what many community servers have and seems to be highly effective to solve the sniper issues and that would be limiting the amount of recons that can exist per squad maybe 3~2 per, this would solve the issues of too many snipers at so many corners while also making snipers that create there own squads to play the role cause role is filled unable to use builds and supplies due to no squads points being available

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ivory palm
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ivory palm
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With 30-40 people on recon/dmr the ones who are leaving the game is everyone else

modern gate
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true

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honestly i think its fine to just enforce a limit

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if someone can't play the game without being recon they can join another server or just leave

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summer swift
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Fixed with the hotfix that was just pushed