nerf drone pinging to over powered

[wind yew]

i think what the devs have basically added was wall hacks which is what we didnt need.

"the pinging system in the sky"

i dont think this should be completely removed just add a bigger cooldown and reduce the ping time

[coarse lion]

I think adding a delay between each spot would be fine. Like a second or two just so you can't just instantly spot 15 people by just spamming the button.
This is mostly a problem only in modes that have everyone in one place like Frontline and Invasion

[wind yew]

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[paper nexus]

[cobalt thunder]

It provides so much intel yet so little points for the spot assist, perhaps like a balance with a ping cooldown or larger and more obvious sizes, max flight and high limit and/or significantly reduce signal range in return of more points for spot kill

[simple rover]

I'd be all for recon drone spots to be squad-only (Are they already?)

Makes sense to me that one person dedicating their entire effort on being up in the sky.. therefore not shooting on the ground, nor pushing with you or providing cover fire.. should be equally as valuable somehow.

Maybe make the pings their full timer only when the recon STAYS within the drone view, spotting folks?

That way, you can't run a DMR/BR.. pop your drone up, mark a squad and then solo-rush it knowing everywhere they're looking.

You're either a RECON, or you're a marksman/sniper shooting. You can't be both.

TL;DR :
Maybe make marks last full length only when staying in the drone view, and make them fade within 1s if you quit the drone view.

✅ ? ❌?

[cobalt thunder]

Ehh, my problem with it is that it doesn’t give enough points, but as soon as it gives a competitive number of points, it will heavily abused, so it needs to be nerfed before increasing spots points should it be considered. I have never seen someone use the drone to spot for them selfs, ive only seen it been used as a payload carrier or pseudo UAV (like the ones in BBOCE in AUS servers) , until it is heavily abused (which in my experience it has not) should be slightly re worked to make it more rewarding and harder to spot

[random berry]

Nah, if the wallhack thing is removed as Oki said

then Drone will be mighty fine

if you want to nerf the drone, make it so you have a max ping distance.

So you can't ping from super high in the sky.

[simple rover]

I'm all for incentivizing teamplay, and with recon.. well.. doing reconnaissance should be just as viable as a medic reviving people, an engineer repairing vehicles, an assault folding people in two or a support building a forward position with barricades.

So if it's rewarded properly EXP-wise, I would limit it's impact to the map icons only.

That way, there's no "wallhack" going on, there's not even spotting on the enemies. There's map icons that show you where enemies are looking, and you get to use that intel to win.

Win fights, take better angles, and pass behind enemies unnoticed if flanking and keeping track of enemy positions on the map is already a hell of a good power multiplier for a squad.

If a recon wants to show where enemies are, they could use a Squad Ping to show a general area, but it shouldn't be "Look at the stack of 8 red markers I just made, shoot away!". That's too powerful, and leads to less thinking and coordination, it'd be abused as hell. Map icon only, with a decent time on it that's not abusive but not useless, and proper point rewards when allies kill map-spotted enemies.

[paper nexus]

No wallhack you say?

[oak wadi]

If someone wants to roleplay a UAV let him, but like, it doesn't need to show spots behind walls either 💀

[vast bronze]

The new spotting system is ruining the game, you can’t even flank anymore. The old pinging system was absolutely fine.

[simple rover]

Agreed with all above, also lmao Michael that's a great example

So.. consensus;

UAV LARPers OK
Wallhack 3d spotting NOT-OK
Rewarding recon OK
Punishing flanks NOT-OK

... sound about right? 😆

[oak wadi]

At first I thought spotting was gonna be map-only so you'd have to check it manually to get an idea of where people are but when it came out it was 3d spots too and I was confused. Guess I went over the update channel too fast

I'm glad the game doesn't have a minimap on the HUD though

[simple rover]

I genuinely forgot that it doesn't have a minimap, because I bind my map button to be extremely easy to access, and I use it every other second to keep track of allies and enemies xD

[brisk saddle]

I havent played in almost a week and ive seen gameplay of the new drone pinging and its absolutely stupid that you can have one person and 1-7 other people fully communicate and work together to have easy spawns and wallhacks, the easy spawns have kinda been a thing but add the wallhack from drone and now its an issue

[ancient gazelle]

This actually sounds pretty cool to have people communicating and kicking ass.

[brisk saddle]

It does but have the pings through objects and buildings is broken its just straight wallhacks