Separate the buttons for free viewing and spinning of miniguns in the LB

[sullen obsidian]

It feels like it's just unfinished. Obviously there should be such a possibility.

There is a function for spinning miniguns, but it is associated with free vision and you cannot use spinning miniguns. I just can't imagine in what situation you should use these functions together

I don’t know what the ka60/bh shooters think about this, but it seems to me that the button for zooming in and spinning up miniguns should also be separated for them

[surreal leaf]

Holding alt should activate free view. I don’t know if it works while on a gun, but it can be used pretty much anytime outside of f2 seats in helicopters.

[sullen obsidian]

The problem is not that you can't use free view. The problem is that the same button that spins up the miniguns (right mouse button by default) also turns on free vision. And you can't use minigun spin and aim at the same time because you currently have free vision activated.

[surreal leaf]

Free view is bound to alt for me. So I am able to look around without spinning it up.

[sullen obsidian]

Yes, you can enable free vision without spinning miniguns, but you cannot spin miniguns without turning on free vision. Understand?

[surreal leaf]

Couldn’t you just hold right click and alt to look around while spun up

The whole point of spinning up the mini gun is to prep it for fire while looking for an enemy which can be done while zoomed slightly in.

[sullen obsidian]

God damn.How can I explain it to him? Or am I stupid and it was possible to separate the buttons all this time?

[fathom cedar]

you are saying you don't want to look around while spinning up?

[sullen obsidian]

yep

Sorry if I couldn't explain it clearly. English is not my native language

[sullen obsidian]

pls

[boreal inlet]

bump

I want this

[sullen obsidian]

bump

[sullen obsidian]

I still believe

[sullen obsidian]

still believe

[muted fable]

as a workaround for spinup - you can spin them up by spaming left mouse istead of holding

[sullen obsidian]

I know, but it's just a workaround

[muted fable]

yeah - the true problem with looking around in heli is that its bound to mouse -the same thing you use to pilot. so its truly only viable for short peaks. idk what a good solution would look like - any ideas?

[sullen obsidian]

The problem is that two actions are controlled by one button. If I want to look around there should be one button, if I want to spin the miniguns then another. The solution is to separate these actions into different buttons (that's why I created the topic)

There is no problem with free viewing. The main problem is that you cannot control the helicopter while spinning the miniguns due to the fact that this also activates free vision, which firstly blocks control of the helicopter and secondly does not allow you to aim since the mouse is currently controlling free vision

[muted fable]

yup - thats what im talking about with free vison - you cant look around and pilot at the same time because they are both boud to mouse movement

as for the two actions - one button - i agree

it would be nice small QOL - why not

but to be honest in current state its just a minor inconvinience since you can spam lmb - i even like the sound of the guns reving up 😉

[sullen obsidian]

Yes, but it feels like we will never get it. The problem has existed since the moment LB appeared in the game

[muted fable]

probably not worth dev time 😦

[sullen obsidian]

Perhaps, but that's no reason to leave a bunch of things undone. This is just one problem that has been going on for a long time. And the further you go, the more of them there are.

[muted fable]

yup - im with you
i guess they just need to prioritize, and a "minor inconvinience" has a low priority - no matter how annoying it is 😉

[sullen obsidian]

Separating the buttons is not difficult and does not take much time. There is not a single good reason why this has not yet been done. Banal inattention

[muted fable]

the reason could be: "We have better things to do" but I don't know man... - probably will remain a mystery...

[sullen obsidian]

Personally, I think it's incompetent to leave things undone. In addition to this problem, there are also exactly the same little things that have been in the game for a very long time. They keep piling up and piling up

[muted fable]

you just have to be realistic man... idk what to tell u

[sullen obsidian]

That's why I said that we will never see it

[rich wren]

I would suggest to remove the zoom in (free view) when in the gunner position. Just make right click spin up the gun.

[sullen obsidian]

Yes, this should also ideally be done. Both on boats and on transport helicopters

But not to remove, but to separate, the zoom option should simply be on another button, for example the mouse wheel

[fathom cedar]

we already have a free look button, should just use that while flying instead of this weird combination of both

[boreal inlet]

not in safe zone

[sullen obsidian]

Do you know that it doesn’t work in a helicopter? And this is not what we need at all. We need the ability to spin up the minigun without free view.

[fathom cedar]

actually didn't since I got rid of that keybind

[sullen obsidian]

Are you talking about the "alt" key?If so, then it doesn't work in helicopters

[sullen obsidian]

still believe

[sullen obsidian]

bump

[sullen obsidian]

bump

[sullen obsidian]

still believe

[sullen obsidian]

still believe

[sullen obsidian]

still believe

[latent lance]

yes

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[sullen obsidian]

this shit also more then year old

[latent lance]

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