Who thought this was a good idea

[tepid sable]

why attachments have so many negative impacts on a gun

[broken raft]

Muzzle break is really bad compared to flash hider :c

[signal belfry]

xd i can @ the guy who thought it was a good idea right now

[steady rapids]

While I think it's fine to have negative impact on certain attachments (some people would prefer less vertical recoil, some would prefer less horizontal), I do think most of negative stats are way too high and I feel like the stats they give sometimes doesn't even compensate the loss

[signal belfry]

https://discord.com/channels/303681520202285057/1176230776753373324 You can give this thread a read, the entire balancing is awful

[plucky sundial]

I know right?

-51 fucking muzzle velocity and 0.2 first shot recoil for 0.06 better Hrecoil

[plucky sundial]

comparing vertical skeleton grip VS shift short angled

(There's absolutely NO fucking point in using vertical skeleton grip)

[broken raft]

I think I put it on RPK

I'm not sure

[broken raft]

the mags need rework tbh

[plucky sundial]

shift short still better on that too

[plucky sundial]

i mean most attachments need rework honestly

[broken raft]

Short mag on MK20 is uttergarbage

[broken raft]

💀 sadly yes

I think negative on attachment should only be on attachment that gives really strong option

Like horizontal recoil

maybe ads

silencers for sure

[plucky sundial]

some attachments make so little changes that you might as well just not use them and the gun would literally feel the same

(at best they'd have a placebo effect)

[plucky sundial]

if i'm that desperate for a better draw/ads speed then i'm better off switching to "Assault" class for 25% better stats and save my attachment slots for an attachment that actually makes a difference instead of having 0.05 better draw speed :/

[broken raft]

idk 🤔

Does Draw speed only affect when you change to that weapon? Or only from that weapon? Or both?

[plucky sundial]

both

u can test it in range

[broken raft]

is there some sort of weight to?

Like

affect more if you switch into it, than out of it?

[plucky sundial]

dude the difference is literally 0.04 more Hrecoil :/
like come on, that's a direct upgrade to skeleton grip

[tepid sable]

remember to check ✅ if you agree that attachments need rework

[plucky sundial]

no

[broken raft]

yeah it's not insane by any means XD

[plucky sundial]

i did :c

[broken raft]

so it's like (Draw speed + draw speed of what you're switching into)/2?

[plucky sundial]

idk the formula
u can just see it for yourself in shooting range

idk if it's intended this way or not but with shift short on your primary, you can switch to C4 faster

[broken raft]

Only to C4?

And only shift short? Not Angled or hera?

[plucky sundial]

basically with shortshift you equip your weapon faster
but also put it away faster
so switching to other stuff is generally faster

[plucky sundial]

short shift makes enough of a difference to be noticeable
anything else that changes the draw speed is so little that it's basically worthless

[broken raft]

ok

[plucky sundial]

is 0.08 less Vrecoil and 0.18 less Hrecoil really worth not having a silenced weapon with this many upsides????

what even is the use for heavy barrel at this point?

[plucky sundial]

useless attachment
the changes are so little that you won't even feel any difference between having it and NOT having it

[plucky sundial]

best part is, u dont even see it so there's 0 drip points for it LMAO

[signal belfry]

Just a fyi duplicate posts will be taken down

[hollow wharf]

No point???? Buh buh buh 0.00 better control!!!

[plucky sundial]

my bad

[ember wharf]

ideally they should compensate the loss perfectly on all of them. No more and no less

[noble grove]

I get why it's a thing right, but I can't be the only one who's mildly annoyed with how costly it is to reduce horizontal recoil