#Pistolgun Rebalance

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ripe timber
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Hi guys,

Pistolguns got a huge needed buff months ago, after experiencing most of them, I think some of them could have some changes :

  • G18 seems too strong compared to other and can be used almost like a main weapon, maybe a shorter mag or a low dmg nerf could be great (reducing 1dmg still 6 bullet on full hp). The TTK is at 0.273 but is auto (way easier to handle) and the mag is quite big wiht 19.
  • M9 has worse TTK than USP and MP443 while having less bullet and more recoil, maybe a little buff on recoil could help people shooting in the head
  • Unica in the reverse is a bit slow for a gun 2sk even in head and its reload for a secondary is also very important at 4.17s
  • RSH is fine but its reload seems also a bit too much at 4.11s

Mostly : the reload of all sidearms are imo way too long for what it should be.
And that's all, the balance is imo pretty close to be perfect on handguns, maybe you guys have other ideas

wooden veldt
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one thing i want is for the high caliber pistols to have good velocity because having to lead a 30m shot is really annoying

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it just doesn't make sense that i have to do that with a deagle

wet comet
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To this day I still don't know why the G18 was ever buffed. Yes it was buffed into this state

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It was already a decent option and for sure outdid the other 3 pistols (you know, the first 3 you unlock those who suck), and then it was buffed.

glacial python
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Rsh could be the only pistol that can 1 tap up to heavy helmet, it has a bigger round than D.Eagle and 2 less bullets in its clip, it also can’t use a short suppressor too

snow ember
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I think the pistols are fine as they are i just think the first 3 pistol needs to have more faster draw speed and reload. Also i like how you mentiones ttk on m9 when most of the people cant even click fast to get that ttk.

glacial python
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Imo rsh should get a headshot multi or a slight dmg buff to make it hit harder than deagle, the draw speed could be returned same to deagle rn after the buff

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The other pistols are fine as they are though

snow ember
glacial python
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It can only 1 shot the face

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Which deagle also does

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While having less rounds than deagle

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And less attachment options

snow ember
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What helmet can rsh cannot one tap?

glacial python
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The deagle outclasses it on nearly everything but draw speed

snow ember
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Heavy and exo?

glacial python
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Deagle n rsh cannot 1 tap any helmet

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Only empty head covering option or no head covering after helmet has been removed

snow ember
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How much hp does heavy and exo have? And normal helmet

glacial python
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Normal is 12

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70x1.5 is 105

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They survive with 7 hp

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U can shoot the face to not hit helmet

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But if you hit the helmet they will survive

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With deag they are left at 4 hp

signal sun
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rsh stock aswell please, due justice to this hand cannon

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near lance
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good point some sideguns feel a bit weak

ripe timber
autumn fulcrum
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Starting off a suggestion with nerfing something instead of noticing the obvious that the other pistols are just inherently bad is just an auto no for me man. Stop trying to nerf every feature of this game. We'll end up with no game at all.

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Buff all pistols to add their own strengths and weaknesses compared to the g18 and that'll be perfect.

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G18 should remain the highest ttk weapon in the pistol category and it deserved to be there cause if you have horrible flick/tracking you're mag dumping the air and you're 100% dead due to its incredibly low up time.

violet helm
glacial python
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You’re gonna use an 8x scope with its bullet velocity?

main nymph
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Ngl to me all pistols seem to be quite the same except for RSh, Deagle and Unica. Also from the fact how rarely and how spread in time I actually die to an sidearm I'd say they are in a good spot.

violet helm
ripe timber
glacial python
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Outside of meme uses it shouldn’t be taken seriously

violet helm
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Sir, I SHALL COUNTER SNIPE WITH THE 8x rsh

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just slap a suppressor on for velocity

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We are goin places

ripe timber
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in BF3 sidearms were sidearms you also didn't have same TTK, efficiency as main weapon, and the game was very fun

violet helm
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and them snipers aren't goin be happy

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we are going to outsnipe them with a big iron on our hip

ripe timber
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They should add x4 on RSH tbh

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and remove that meme x8

violet helm
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I can see that

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I don't agree with removal of 8x

autumn fulcrum
ripe timber
violet helm
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In seriousness I do like the fact it has a 8x scope

ripe timber
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I don't give a damn f you upvote or downvote it's not reddit my man, if you don't agree then don't agree

autumn fulcrum
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Horrible takes, enjoy it never being implemented

ripe timber
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You're in your right to play most meta weapons and don't want to be nerfed

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Actually I remembered Little bird abuser and Vector abuser crying a lot

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But you know what

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after the nerf, everyone was happy

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So.. bad takes for you

autumn fulcrum
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No actually you watched 22,000 people leave

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The game

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After vector and lean nerf

ripe timber
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So I was right

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one of them

violet helm
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So pistol wise, I suppose a question to be raised

ripe timber
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Keep abusing every keys/keybind/any tricks you want because you can't aim or do a 1v1 with same advantage dude

autumn fulcrum
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Killing the game 10/10 everyone's happy if nobodys playing right?

violet helm
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should we reduce their RPM for damage to make it a touch easier on the semis to be used?

autumn fulcrum
violet helm
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at least in the long run

autumn fulcrum
ripe timber
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and not fun for more people

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big brain

violet helm
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Err you sure this isn't a case of other things happening

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as well

autumn fulcrum
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You're just wrong? LMFAO

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22k people left and you never saw over that number until the game became free to play for a weekend with an event

violet helm
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yea

ripe timber
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They left because the game was released and they get sometimes enough of it

violet helm
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it is kinda normal for games to get a big spike of players on release

ripe timber
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You're a dog if you think it's because of vector or lean spam nerf

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Like a real one

violet helm
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than lose them after afew weeks (When vector was nerfed)

ripe timber
grand imp
violet helm
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The lean spam nerf (What some call a removal) I also don't see contributing much to player loss (the action of nerfing it)

ripe timber
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It did nothing, because people loving the game, loved the game for what it is

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not for some abusers mechanics because they're skilless

autumn fulcrum
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We lost like 75k players over time but you look at the graph on the exact few days after the nerf and it's 22k

violet helm
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I could see some guys were using it like nuts leaving, but not many

grand imp
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speculating on player spike/down/retention is a bad idea. There's so many reason that can affect that.

ripe timber
violet helm
autumn fulcrum
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Bro Okami you should just be banned from posting your so annoying

violet helm
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could've swore tarkov wipes & we lose some players

ripe timber
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Nah you should, I saw you trolling already on other posts

wooden veldt
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god forbid anyone disagrees with steverec guys... come on...

grand imp
violet helm
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But anyhow

grand imp
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Bro like come on

violet helm
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Semi automatic pistols wise ; anyone got feelings on reducing RPM for damage to make them easier to use?

grand imp
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And don't come with the "game bad" when the rating on steam is crazy positive.

grand imp
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It was said higher/before tho

violet helm
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Idea being they go up to around 700 rpm if I recall right now (so over 10 clicks a second)

autumn fulcrum
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W/e this change is never happening and people like you Okami won't have a voice anymore after Oki places requirements for making suggestions/voting

grand imp
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Wtf are you even on

violet helm
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So what require on suggestions would it even be steve?

main nymph
grand imp
violet helm
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lol, everyone bypasses by renaming themselves to steve

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We must become the great Steeve

autumn fulcrum
grand imp
violet helm
grand imp
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3K hours and prestige 10?

violet helm
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play time doesn't really matter much

autumn fulcrum
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I doubt it'll be something stupid like prestige 10, but I wouldn't be surprised if it required at least 3 prestiges

violet helm
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coming from warframe, I have seen MR30+ be clueless while MR10s knew exactly what needed to be done & such

grand imp
violet helm
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for prestige wise ; you just would create more incentives for XP farm creation

ripe timber
violet helm
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But this is off topic

wooden veldt
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a battlebit meritocracy isn't going to work man

violet helm
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So any ideas on semi pistol buffs?

ripe timber
violet helm
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Seriously anyone got ideas before steve attempts to derail

autumn fulcrum
ripe timber
autumn fulcrum
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No

wooden veldt
grand imp
# violet helm So any ideas on semi pistol buffs?

RSH needs more damage than Deagle and Deagle need a bigger mag. Glock needs less damage, more recoil. Pistol less firerate, more damage, more balance between them. Unica needs a bit more firerate.

autumn fulcrum
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You guys should wait for the new automatic pistol to come out and re-post this thread or come back to it. It might be better than the g18, who knows.

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Larry leaked it in his stream

violet helm
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semi,burst or full?

autumn fulcrum
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It's new so it's added to pistol balance

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Automatic, meaning full.

violet helm
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automatic is literally the same as saying self loading in a lot of ways

autumn fulcrum
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Larry's words, not me.

violet helm
grand imp
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and RSH has fixed ammo

violet helm
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so you mean a extended magazine?

grand imp
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and so to make two OS gun different

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no

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I mean you could

autumn fulcrum
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D-eagle after using as my only weapon for a few matches is just a straight dog in CQC. The recoil is just so bad you almost never are able to adjust aim before you're dead after not 1 tapping

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Medic helmets just prevent 1 shot. Which is just sad. You basically have to hope they're not 100hp

grand imp
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Maybe don't add damage, but make the damage fall off better for the RSH.

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So you have a good OS HS gun with higher magazine, or a lower magazine with higher range.

violet helm
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I am up for that

autumn fulcrum
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Idk like I said d-eagle rarely 1 shots in the head

violet helm
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RSH being a pocket sniper of sorts

autumn fulcrum
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Recoils should be adjusted, since rsh is just better in every way currently. Mag size means nothing if you can't even land 2 shots anyway

ripe timber
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I also added that their reloads is insanly big

tropic lava
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Maybe on high caliber gun, give them a x2 crit at like 5/10m range

ripe timber
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D-eagle doesn't have that problem

tropic lava
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it's still high risk / high reward

ripe timber
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They already 1sk hs

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if you're talking about RSH and D-eagle

glacial python