#New Skin System - Feedback

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peak finch
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Please keep it on topic, and civil, we want serious feedback

  • No gifs
  • No 'skill issue'
marsh marsh
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I would like to see what it took to earn the skin after i've unlocked it. what prestige level was needed, how many kills required, etc.

green agate
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I litterally do not care about skins. Skins do not add anything to the gameplay.

chrome prawn
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I kinda wish there was more just flat only one color skins so if i want a green skin it doesn't also come with red or a really bad looking green that doesn't match

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especially for attachments

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also where the pixelly camo pwq
other then this stuff i like it

twilit stag
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I was a fan of how the previous skin systems left "metal" components unpainted. Such as the barrel being unpainted for long rifles like my beloved SV-98.
It would be nice if there were three sections of weapons to paint instead of the current two, breaking the current primary into two sections.

  • Primary for the "housing" of the weapon, stock, and grip. (Similar to how the old skins worked.)
  • Secondary for the actual barrel, ejection port, metal parts. (Basically, the new areas that are now paintable with the current primary coloration)
  • And Tertiary being for attachments. (What we currently have for Secondary paints)
chrome prawn
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oh and some skins take way to many kills

misty trail
misty trail
# chrome prawn oh and some skins take way to many kills

Actually not too mad at the high limits. With how fast progression is on everything else it’s nice to have long term goals - I’ve been working for the Asimov AK skin for a while and it’s nice to have stuff to work to

chrome prawn
inland lagoon
chrome prawn
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that means to get all the skins in the game it would take about 60ish years i think and that's includeding normal person play time and how slow it is to get kills on snipers and pistol

misty trail
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It didn’t have any symbols on the name and I can’t use any of the other patreon skins so idk

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@inland lagoon

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Plus it don’t matter anyway my heart is with the hutch m4 😁

chrome prawn
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I'm gonna be a bit fair with this
3 kills a minute for most (actually may be to high because that means people gonna be getting 90 kills in a 30 minute game but its more like between 40-20)
the max skin i think is like 100,000 (not home to check)

that about 556 hours worth of grind for one gun

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if my math isn't wrong

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that's not a mastery skin that a no life skin

twilit stag
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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But I agree with the sentiment.

chrome prawn
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oh ok

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ya 55.6 hours a gun

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how many guns is there

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that's if ypur getting 90 kills a game

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but its more like 30 a game for most

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so more like 166.8 hours for 1 gun

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for the normal player

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and I'm gonna make it a bit more frank
most players will get all skins on one gun if they play with it for about 120-180 hours

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that's a lot for just one frickin gun

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like I'm being real general with the numbers but I'm probably close

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and that's not including the time it takes to go through your 200 levels 3 times for some of the skins and how it completely stopes you from getting kills with some guns until you level back up to them

fiery summit
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I dunno if it's possible but maybe lower kill requirements for Pistols' skins?
I'm not sure there are many people running around with X hundreds/thousands kills with 'em.

royal sparrow
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I no longer can grind for the skin that was my original reason to prestige. Put a big dent in my drive to grind at the moment.

trim topaz
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I cannot understate how disappointed I am with the new skin system. Convoluted, doesn't even work properly, breaks something that didn't need fixing

willow brook
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Make it so we can overlap the patterns on other skin

for example, use supporter skins as base model then slap on the wraps and design while keeping the slings and extra attachments on the gun

hollow flame
desert iris
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I love how the kill requirements for Snipers, Pistols and Heavy Caliber Pistols are the same as other categories when in-game you get significantly less kills with them. 🗿

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||Most of the skins look garbage too aside from the morbillion kills, prestige 69 ones.||

grim musk
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im glad so much time and effort went into making the skins look less bad (they still look bad) instead of fixing the game

vestal sapphire
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skins looking very hot 🥵

robust sun
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The new skins overall are just terrible. Such a downgrade in terms of quality. The system I suppose is fine, but the menu is cumbersome with the selection starting in the middle and needing to scroll because .1% of players have that many kills, and the lack of a preview exacerbates this even further

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Please bring back the old skins as an option because many people greatly prefer them to whatever mobile game garbage these new skins are

rocky merlin
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the system could be a little more descriptive, but its easy to figure out. i did really like a few of the old skins much like the earlier post, and it would be nice to have them as an option. not really a pain point for me but i do like the customization options, however i do wish for some more muted colors.

stuck hearth
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New skins suck and the UI is fucking blinding

carmine bone
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-I like the added customizeability: your choice of 2 patterns = exponentially more options 🤯. I quite like white silencer look 😏
-have to agree with a Reddit comment about the rate of progression of skins feels waaay too slow given the total amount. Hopefully this will be looked at soon or next.

I'd look at other (RPGs/COD, etc) Sigmoid aka S-curve rates and adjust similarly. Maybe unlock 3-5 colors per level & plateau at certain points? Have the coolest, most detailed ones later or on prestige. Skin unlocks just feel very temporary/makeshift.

I've been playing since Summer, grinded, tried a few guns, found favs/metas, got burnt out, played other games, came back a few times...still only have a few colors in a few categories!! IMHO you should have 75%-80% of your most played gun skins unlocked at 145 hrs (my current)

-agree that sniper/pistol unlock numbers should be proportional to kills per playtime rate. Guessing it's like 1/2, 1/3 or quite a bit less?

royal sparrow
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I like the new skin system however i would like to propose some fixes.

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Also for people who say they dont care about skins miss the point entierly as skins serve as a player expression method and if you want to look the same well good for you but most people like to have a bit of personal falir on their stuff

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that said here are my points:

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  1. It would be interesting with the new patern system to be able to mix the paterns for example we could have the main colour with pattern 01 and the attachements with pattern 02
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  1. as said perviously by others there seems to be way less detail in the colouring of the skins
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here is a screenshot

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this is pre update:

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and this is post update:

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there is a loss of detail in terms of coloring

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-some bolts are colored and some are not

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-the tape color missing

vestal sapphire
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post update looks cleaner and has more capsbilities

royal sparrow
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-the black parts being colored for no reason

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yea ak15 got it better than most but some of the guns just became one solid color and lost a lot of detail

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And that would be my 3rd point

vestal sapphire
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like a lot of different capabilities, skins which support camos, more individual customization, etc

royal sparrow
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just as stated by Codebreak we should just straight up have 3 slots of coloring one for the main body one for the internals like barrel and stuff and the other for the other details

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you seem to misunderstand thigns a little

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just adding more patterns dosent mean the system is better

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pre update the solid color skins and even patern ones were more refined

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yes the surface we can paint has increased but that came with a substantial loss in quality

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my EBR for example looked super clean before the update

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now

vestal sapphire
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floating irons on the fal, borked ass m4 stocks 💀

royal sparrow
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also ya know the same colors before are now super bright compared to before

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i like to paint my guns in a more ''realistic'' way compared to the nerf guns we have now is what i mean

vestal sapphire
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i am aware that the default has suffered a bit on a few guns but c'mon a more efficient, better looking and easier to make additions to system is easily better than the old model based one

carmine bone
# royal sparrow

Looks like a lighting difference to me. I kinda prefer the change tbh

royal sparrow
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the barrel and rods on the stock and many other bolt were not colored before making the gun look better

vestal sapphire
royal sparrow
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yes

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kills

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and i dont wat shit to look black

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these parts for example were black

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from memory

vestal sapphire
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(there's always the default option)

royal sparrow
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it sucks i dont have screenshots to compare the quality because it is 100% worse

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yet again missing the entire point

vestal sapphire
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quality is literally better because now it's only one model getting different textures slapped on
and btw there have been multiple dev casts outlining the systems capabilities and limitations...

royal sparrow
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yeah I cant seem to find screenshots

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if i could go back to an older version of battlebit you would see that yeah there is a loss in quality

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basicaly the new system englobes too much or too little

royal sparrow
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also many colors are missing now if you actualy pay atention you just lost a ton of teal and soft green colours

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now you are stuck with the same 10 colours that dont even look that good

vestal sapphire
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yap yap, they did an amazing job.

royal sparrow
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ok bro

native musk
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(I love the dots decal a lot, though. It's my favorite new look)

glacial fjord
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rip my sweet little angels

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the only camo i think is great from the whole new set and literally the only gun i have one applied to.. the new blacked out models aren't bad as a default tho.. big :((((

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i remember seeing these when they first were talking about new skins audible sigh what could have been

digital karma
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Not a very helpful suggestion, but I think some wooden gun furniture style skins would be cool.

royal sparrow
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The system is good, the skins are not.

I really miss those old partial patterns you got on things like the swamp camo, perhaps those could be added as an option?

wide nymph
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Skins look overly bright

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Do adjust

south fox
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I agree with people who say more camo modularity would be nice. Little bit frustrating that I can't make a proper green meanie L96, or a tan SCAR-H that don't look like they just got dipped in that one paint. I think PAYDAY 2 has a pretty good example for a camo system. Also being able to paint the skins that change the models of the guns eg. the streamer skins would be cool

desert iris
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I mean it makes sense, you want to extract as much money as you can, so free skins are garbage, bland and boring... tbh fuck you, but I can understand that

royal sparrow
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I mean some of the supporter pack skins got weirdly messed up by the update, vector and mp7 to name two.

digital karma
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Some of the supporter pack skins are incredibly underwhelming, like making the handle a slightly darker shade of gray. I also don't like how most skins are locked behind really high prestige. I don't think most people have the time to grind the sheer amount of kills or xp for those.

digital karma
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More uniforms would be cool. I'm sadly obligated to pick the most effective over the most cool uniforms because camouflague actually works in this game (not that I'm complaining, its a fun feature)

fiery summit
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it's not about weapons' skins but player ones. this ones bothers me - why not make 'em be available all at once after you unlock them? black camo can stay at p1 but others should be available all the time, imo.

vital zodiac
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Some skins look weird especially monochrome ones. Blue tapes on quick mags is also gone 😕

royal sparrow
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That one's a blessing.

silent remnant
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I definitely think the overall system is a nice upgrade, though I'd certainly love a bit of variety in what unlocks early. Most of the choices early boil down to "would you like the green one or the brown one?" I'd love to see a comeback of some of the old, different solid color (like the tundra off-green one) or some of the more toned down color combos (red/gray, yellow/gray, and the pumpkin camo were some of my personal favorites) as well as a few variations to the camo patterns (such as a digital-style one that fits well in game). But overall I think it's a really solid step in a great direction.

native musk
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just a quick color shift in gimp and damn

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could also accomplish similar if you could just seperate the layers and add the yellow from the yellow+purple and the black from black+grey but i don't think that's how the system works currently

unique plaza
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skins looking great there

atomic scarab
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The new skin system is overall good, but I think the progression of what colors/patterns you unlock could be reworked a little to give a more clear sense of progression and to make it clearer how many kills someone has with their gun.

What I was expecting the new system to be, and what I think would be an improvement: instead of kills with a gun unlocking specific camos, have kills unlock color palettes and patterns. Once you unlock a specific camo pattern, you can apply it to your gun with any color palette you have unlocked, and vice versa.

royal sparrow
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yeah that would be sick

native musk
atomic scarab
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yeah, that too

royal sparrow
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also possibility of more colours

chrome prawn
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the same colors on different skin types should change what colors go where on pattern 01

split cipher
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I think the mastery skins on pistols should be lowered, getting 10k kills on a primary weapon is already a really long grind let alone on a sidearm

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im prestige 9 and my highest kills on any pistol is about 500, I dont think ill ever get a gold pistol if it stays like this

royal sparrow
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just play x10 times 5head

undone tree
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Being able to put 2 different patterns on either primary or secondary would be a neat thing.

stray scarab
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its a really good skin system but I think for all the players there should be a system were you can make your own skin from the other skins. what I mean is that once you get prestige 5 or 10 you could unlock in each section of the skin sections and change each property of the skins e.g the liquid could have a skin that you can change each colour of the skin. meaning say you want the wavey part to be gold and the other part black to make this cool looking skin for players giving more fun ways to have customizability.

but not been able to have the colours the same colour e.g someone trying to get a fake master skin

royal sparrow
dire tree
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Miss that hats

shy swan
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i love it, good progression, Increases interest, pump your favorite guns!

plucky knot
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It would be nice if you could edit your skin in the main menu

shell terrace
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Massive W update, would love the ability to apply different patterns to the different sections (like have my main gun be pattern 1, while the attachments are pattern 2, or vice versa)

weary bloom
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can we make it so the colour of the rangefinder changes with the secondary colour? the default colour doesnt look great a lot of the time

static wing
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can U make skins I can get in-game I dont give a fuck about twitch streamers

vestal sapphire
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I think they already mentioned prestige skins

static wing
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gacha slot machine lootboxes would be better than streamer dicksucking everywhere and you might turn a profit instead of making yourselves look like clowns

chrome prawn
native musk
green agate
grim musk
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they're super fucking ugly compared to the supporter pack skins/some of the FOMO twitch skins

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but yeah, the "watch this specific stream on this specific day or you'll never be able to get these skins ever!" is fucking aids, and they need to fuck off with that FOMO bullshit

foggy dew
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this whole system of getting skins by doing anything other than playing the game goes against everything i thought this game was. fuck twitch just let me play the game and unlock shit.

native musk
toxic igloo
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Itd be nice to hover preview secondary color as well.

Also seeing which new skins are new, and making the locked icon bigger

civic pagoda
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I'm kinda bummed no further customization is possible for custom skins such as twitch rival or supporter pack. Not a huge deal but yea. That is all.

neat coral
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I love the new skins. But i think the skin-pool should be shared. F.e.: you unlock some skins from 1-350 kills with the M4A1 and some other ones with Ak15. So you have more variety on the battlefield and a reason to play something besides the meta.

wind adder
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why the duct tape on quick-A mag of ak74 is grey now,it should be blue in my memory

digital karma
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They changed it idk why

royal sparrow
wind adder
vital zodiac
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RIP Blue tape

blissful valve
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I like new system, but for some reason I lost a lot of my skins.

royal sparrow
sour path
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like this one

royal sparrow
sour path
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So the supporter pack only gives you those silly-looking skins?

royal sparrow
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You say that like the above skin isn't silly.

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And yes, supporter pack skins are separate from patreon skins.

sour path
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Patreon skins are so good, but they leave them here locked forever? like you can never get them anymore. then why did they put it here? couldn't they only show it to those who can use it or unlock it?

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This is so stupid, showing something even you can't buy. lmfao

royal sparrow
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I agree with you there.

sour path
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What made me so angry is that I paid the money and I had the skin, but after a few days, those skins are locked. This will earn the game bad reviews.

vagrant quail
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Wish there was a trinary skin so you could color the slide of your pistol a different color from the grip for example.

grim musk
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wow, more FOMO cosmetics! and they're still really ugly!

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at this rate, soon there aren't going to be any streamers to actually get drops from, lmao

native musk
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Wonder when the cool grey one of the holiday skin patterns is going to be given out. New years?

rose gulch
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I'm a bit disappointed that the special skins that drop can't be combined and modified like the normal skins you unlock with kills.

royal plover
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The only change I want to the skin system is the ability to select different patterns for my primary and secondary.

For example, a Solid primary and a Patterned secondary, etc.

See no reason why we're locked into one set of skin choices for both selections.

Great update otherwise

native musk
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like i have b/w kirby dots primary, flat black secondary on my G36

royal plover
# native musk that's how it works now?

You can select various patterns within one of the 3 larger pools of patterns, but as far as I can tell you can't select one from each big pool of patterns

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You select Solid or one of the 2 groups of camos

native musk
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sounded like you thought you had to use the same pattern on both choices!

royal plover
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Oh, no, yeah

sand raft
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USAF Skins should not be locked behind a drop. ID.ME verification should me a acceptable method to claim skin if active or prior

royal plover
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Gatekeep USAF skins forever if the alternative is id.me HyperXD

sand raft
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I don't understand the question. Who said anything about it being only US?

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This is how I see it every countries branches unis should be dropped and methods of verification should be made so that those who are in and who were in can INSTANTLY get it AND there also be twitch drops.
Some ppl don't have time to do twitch drops or don't know about them.

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Why should one be locked into making a twitch account and watching some stream to get a skin.

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Especially to ppl who currently wear or have worn for their country

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Like COD has a veterans or service memebers only pack that's verified I get Emails about it whenever a new COD drops when they push another vets/service members pack.

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Say that to cod

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If they could anyone can

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Plus it could open doors to ad revenue

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Sponsorships

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They got into a collaboration with the USAF for crist sake it's possible

desert iris
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just fucking make them paid already, who the fuck wastes their life away watching shit streamers for skins 🤨

grim musk
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how about you earn them through actually playing the game

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like, fulfilling special weekly challenges that award you with said items

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it's the US airforce, right? so the challenges could be related to the choppers

royal plover
royal plover
sand raft
royal plover
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Fair enough

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id.me just makes me want to claw my own eyes out

sand raft
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I've had no issues with it. What have you ran into?
If you wanna dm about it because idk if it's allowed to get off topic.

royal plover
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Just some IRS issues from a few years back, nbd. I'll keep the thread clean

distant ridge
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Major issue is the lack of old skins.
Bring the old camo skins on weapons back as a separate thing in the customization menu, the new ones sucks.

upper galleon
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The 1 and 2 weapon coloring options may differ too slightly and honestly, these things make little sense.
Why not just give players normal skins with normal camouflages and an adequate color palette instead of this?
For those who can't see the difference in the screenshots - Note the scope. This is too small a difference to choose a different skin fill style.

royal sparrow
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man i hate geting skins from tiwtch not only i have to run some program for hours on end in the backgorund but like half the skins i dont even get them and its just generaly dosent even incetivise players to even play the damn game

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litteraly modern day gaming rot

grim musk
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^

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what's the best way to get people to play our game? clearly, we should force them to have some lowlife loser's stream running in the background

gentle delta
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The monetization scheme is to nepotize and become view bots for these streamers; for skins..? and pretend there isn't anything wrong with that, you got to do what you got to do but it's pretty cringe.

unkempt cove
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I dont like it, the other system colored certain parts and others didnt wich resulted in cool patterns this new one you have more variaty but the variety feels a lot more boring. Give us the option to color individual parts of the gun and I ll be set. I also would like to add that I think it is crazy to have some of the best skins in the game locked behind streamer codes/drops ex: scar destroyer project, give us more skins like this for prestiging, headshot kills, or even in a new supporter pack

upper galleon
unkempt cove
frail scarab
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I would like to add that missing one-time-only cosmetic skins is a large factor of why I don’t want to play anymore. The gameplay is fun, everything is more or less fine, but the thought that I missed the sexy p90 skins or the air force skins or xmas skins purrmanyantly is kind of a massive tail-downer.

royal sparrow
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I would like more twitch skins specifically to spite this weirdo.

desert iris
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"tail-downer" wtf, where is the nearest bridge I need it

twin girder
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Skin are too grindy, why have >500 skin per weapon if most skins require >2000 kills? Some people just want to switch their weapon around couple times per match, and not grind with only one gun. There should be kills, prestige (you don't immediately unlock anything for guns when going prestige rn) or both as a requirement for skins and you should get most at 2000 or so kills, not most at 4000. Keep some skins locked to prestige and thousands of kills but not almost all skins.

Don't change mastery skins at all, they are a good chase.

fiery summit
twin girder
distant ridge
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bring back old camo skins for each weapon.

marsh sundial
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Broke 10k, where is my gold skin?

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Should I report this as a bug?

desert iris
marsh sundial
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Yeah, I want my gold skin

frail scarab
crystal blaze
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Can you reset only weapon or only attachments skin to default black? I can't find it.
Eg. to preview a skin on attachments, you have to select it, but then you can't revert in anymore - you can just change color to another or set whole weapon(+attachments) to default.

native musk
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right click on the default color and it applies just to the attachments

crystal blaze
toxic igloo
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After getting my first gold skin today I was a bit disappointed I didn't see any "new camo unlocked" I don't think.

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I think the masteries should have a bit of fanfare

upper galleon
fair onyx
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please add some token system which you get by playing on official servers and then you can buy skins with it, most of the cool skins you cannot get and for a new player that kinda bummer seeing there is a cool skin on you're favorite gun then you read about it in the descriptions, go to a twitch streamer and he says that he doesnt play battlebit anymore and you cannot get that skin

royal sparrow
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Can we have more soldier uniform skins? More nations? Can we also have visible body, legs of our character? It kinda kills immersion when i rotate head and cant see my own legs!

digital karma
unique carbon
upper galleon
unique carbon
# upper galleon A lot of things in this game are just too much. I have a negative attitude towar...

Like I'm fine with a few things taking forever as some sorta crazy-ass milestone, there's no problem with that. But progression gets glacially slow after hitting prestige 1 when you don't have anything else to unlock weapon/gear-wise.

I feel as if there should be kill-based skin unlocks and prestige-based skin unlocks, so you're still getting an instant benefit for prestiging, but have incentive to stay with weapons you really like at the same time

upper galleon
fossil surge
unique carbon
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From what I understand you have to reach the required prestige then still get however many kills are required, yeah?

fossil surge
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maybe someone else can confirm

distant ridge
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I went prestige 10 in no time tbh

fossil surge
distant ridge
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you dont have to be a heal bot, just revive and push objectives -> do more kills thats what gets you more XP

fossil surge
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i already revive people when i can

lethal cobalt
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the old skin system was way better.

royal sparrow
lethal cobalt
unique carbon
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I feel like this system would be better off with separating patterns and colors for unlocks so you're not effectively just on a constant drip-feed grind unlocking the same 7 drab colors for different patterns over and over again for a good 2k kills

sullen valley
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i suggest devs to make beautiful skin as cod does , as long as it doesnt affect players experience

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like valorant did

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that way players would send more physically love to the game xD