#devs not banning hackers/cheaters

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left void
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when will the devs deal with hackers instead of banning people or remove posts that talk about it? with the addition of this free weekend the games spiked in numbers with new hackers and cheaters, and still to this day ive never once seen any banned or heard of them being so.

stuck vessel
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There are no hackers. If you think hacking is a big problem in this game I would recommend getting a mental health check as you might be showing early signs of paranoid schizophrenia.

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There is help for you.

primal umbra
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Honestly i've encountered a hacker in this game only once and it was so blatant to the point the hackers own team mocked him

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Only one in like 300 hours

bleak brook
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We never removed any post for just talking about this. EAC is also actively banning cheaters every day.

If you believe someone is cheating in your game, you can #report-player so that we can look at it.

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If you haven’t heard of any cheaters getting banned, make sure to pay closer attention to the top right of your screen.

clever cloak
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Bans tend to come in large waves which are easy to miss but quite cool

primal umbra
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Indeed

coral atlas
hasty vigil
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I did not see hackers in BattleBit after 450 hours in game

blissful ice
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Only encountered 2 cheaters. Both were handled with pretty quickly.

Chances are the people on your server just aren’t reporting it?

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Also, yeah.. ban waves exist and are usually done to make it harder for cheat makers to determine what triggered the anti-cheat

jagged ferry
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No this is not my post, but yes, there are plenty of cheaters. FPS cheating has been getting rapidly worse since 2010. @stuck vessel no idea why you are insulting people about it but, fyi, if you think that people aren't cheating, you must be new to games, or very young. They have done since day 1, hell even in alpha/beta testing they were rampant. Granted not SO much but a lot of people wall and a LOT of people shaping their uploads that they lag about instead of smooth like, you know, normal people.

I have spectated quite a few people before and it's noticable with some people, seemingly peeking and prefiring around SOME corners because they know people are there (walling) and then running willy nilly through to the next set of places to "peek and prefire" again.

The whole "EAC" is banning people daily might be true, but the fact that the anticheat is bypassable tells tales that we need something better, and now. Faceit was proposed how long ago now and still we are left with an EAC that is only effective if it's actually running on the client's machine and not bypassed.

The server side checks too for people "lag switching" hardware/software are also seemingly ineffective on player hosted/ran servers as well. Not seen this issue with the lagging about and veing so so hard to hit on official servers. Sadly in OCE, we never get these because the playerbase has all but diminished for obvious reasons.

TL;DR Just because you don't KNOW or have been around FPS gaming long enough to know what a hacker IS, does not mean they aren't there. Most just wall, aimbot can be detected and proven too easily.

Oh, just thought I would throw this out there. I play the game, I come on it, to do so, not to record people and play as a police peasant that records and submits demo's. This is what the anticheat is meant to do, but is failing at many levels. Sure, it's picked up the most idiotic cheaters, but not the ones evading it. /rant

hasty vigil
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4 month ago in one discord server of russian battlebit clan, I see how one guy send screenshot from BB with wallhack. next day he had permanently ban for cheating

stuck vessel
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I also have no idea what youre talking about when it comes to lag switching. I have never noticed this or even thought about this possibility in bbr.

jagged ferry
# stuck vessel I have not encountered a single blatant hacker in this game at all. With how muc...

Again, no need to be antagonistic or abuse people, calling them names. It's ok to not be aware, but there are a lot. as the op stated this free weekend has brought about a few of them, last night I was in a match where two got banned for said acts.

Just because you don't know what it is, or how it's done, or known that you have seen it, again doesn't say anything. It's happening, that's just it. Just like people used to do on CS for MANY years with update rate cheating. It's not an in game config but scripts they run to affect their network.

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Heck, you know ad words will help you find the amount of search queries for phrases right? bb hacks are up there.. No, I am not supporting people in going to search for em, but you will notice they are there, and plenty sadly.

stuck vessel
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This is a pretty easy argument to settle. Go into a lobby and spectate. See how many people on average it takes to find a cheater. At a certain point you'll have a good idea of the percentage of players who are cheating.

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Also im obviously not saying it doesnt happen at all. I'm saying its not a big issue in this game, likely due to the size of the servers and the casual nature of it.

jagged ferry
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So the tens of thousands of banned accounts, that continue to rise, and get caught, means nothing, gotcha... I don't know why you are even trying to say cheating is non existant lol

stuck vessel
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"Also im obviously not saying it doesnt happen at all"

stuck vessel
jagged ferry
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Mmhmm, not what you said at all.

clever cloak
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But would you disagree with the statement “there are few hackers”?

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Since I doubt old chum actually thought at any point there were none at all.

stuck vessel
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This wiki article will blow your mind.

left void
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theyre cheaters daily. it may just be a MUCH bigger issue for OCE servers possibly as not much care is given to any other countries enjoyment etc as much as the US. but joining into any server i come across so many obvious cheaters. for example youll spawn in but instantly be shot the second u leave cover u spawned behind. or ur shot at so u move postion ( large distance so they dont know where u are 100% ) but instantly the second u come out of cover in a new location the exact same guy is already shooting you and hitting without any miss. also to add, snipers around 1000m away will on the very first hit and every other shot ( when it comes to a aimbotter ) seconds after u come out, no time to figure out how high to aim the scope just instant. i use the highest ranked sniper and even i have to aim it all up which isnt instant. and same will go for people using pistols, smgs , ARs etc. and the lag switching is terrible too.

stuck vessel
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OCE is active right now, if they're so common you should be able to find one pretty quick!

left void
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every match

stuck vessel
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How about you stop yapping and prove your claim.

south hollow
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This is where you post your recorded proof by the way.

jagged ferry
stuck vessel
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How about you PROVE IT!

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I think that would be pretty cool.

left void
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maybe ur one of them select individuals and thats why ur backing them up tryna say theres none

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i mean thats usually the case with hackers. act oblivious to it happening

stuck vessel
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Maybe you are trying to make all people who think there are hackers look stupid, so that people disregard their arguments.

left void
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bro what lmao. speak proper

stuck vessel
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huh

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Again, maybe you should just stop yapping and prove it already. No more excuses.

jagged ferry
# stuck vessel Again, maybe you should just stop yapping and prove it already. No more excuses.

For someone with a profile picture of a north korean leader "yapping" as he says that hackers are non existant or wants to cover their eyes, stick their head in teh sand and say it doesn't, you really are.. what did you call everyone else, mentally u nstable? Come on now. I am not recording a thing, as it won't stop anyone else from doing it. The problem isn't fixed by manually banning a single person, it gets HELPED having an anticheat that doesn't have such easily accessable bypasses. As a network engineer I can assure you, it's VERY easy to not only setup your OWN way to create or simulate latency but you can get this stuff on all there "I have no life" forums where they get other things from. I'm leaving this convo, you guys have fun, denying cheatingf is a thing and that EAC is great lol... First time for everything.

stuck vessel
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You keep saying it's very easy to cheat, but you provide no evidence that it is a large issue. I'm beginning to think you dont understand the difference between those two things...

tiny silo
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The mostly blatant aim botter I reported two months ago got banned today 👍 they're doing their job

proven crypt
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The screen isn't mine, but it's the answer to your request.

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By the way, what's up with Faceit antichit or some other antichit? There were plans to improve the anti-cheat

stuck vessel
proven crypt
stuck vessel
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I see. I think this does fulfill his request.

verbal junco
proven crypt
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Especially Oki wrote in my thread that deaths in 1 frame and not registering hits can also happen because of anti-cheat

bleak brook
# proven crypt By the way, what's up with Faceit antichit or some other antichit? There were pl...

@verbal junco's response is correct: We are going to be using a custom tailored version of FACEIT Anti-cheat. It will not be so strict on things like BIOS settings (secure boot, TPM, etc.) as the normal version of FACEIT Anti-cheat, without compromising too much of its functionality.

On top of that, FACEIT Anti-cheat will notbe used on official servers. It will be an option for community servers to have (currently the plan, subject to change).

sterile surge
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i hope faceit delivers the linux compat they promised

jagged ferry
# stuck vessel You keep saying it's very easy to cheat, but you provide no evidence that it is ...

20 years as a network engineer and ran servers for a good 8-10 years.. I have a good idea what people do, where they go and whats out there. Next.

It's really quite simple. EAC has workarounds that people do and anyone who has any clue knows this, and is available pubicly and it's how these people are cheating without getting caught automatically. The sooner they actually get faceit up and running, the better, as a lot of these people will run their cheats thinking it wont get detected, then bam. The dirt is gone. The biggest thing I notice is the people who's upload packets are delayed. It seems to be a huge thing on "top" players in OCE right now, some will even openly tell you that they do it. Do I have screens, no, because it's not my job to report them, there is an ingame feature that is there for this purpose and I will not go out of my way other than using this.

I have no idea what server side detections are being ran to avoid this, but it's quite simply not working or happening on anything here that's not official. This weekend the official server came online as the player pool increased and all other servers were full. On these servers, this did NOT happen once. Everyone had a blast, but as the free weekend is now ending, players dropped off and we're back to seeing the same 50 or so people doing this and it's SO hard to actually hit them or know if youyr actually shooting where they are now or were half a second ago.

south hollow
# jagged ferry Well aware, not my job to police and or play the police pawn. Anticheat is ineff...

BBRL is the only way to know if you're claims have any merrit or if it's just a skill issue; or you can wait for your one report out of hundreds of thousands to be seen by a moderator or get put to the front because lots of people saw, because lets ' face-it ' that's all manual too it doesn't happen automatically.. 🫄
You can also just wait for face-it, which they've been hesitant to add surely because it's not going to help that much and anything but make the game more exclusive in a way ( and people have trust issues with it already, lol ) .

You don't have to participate; just means your complaints are falling on deaf ears now, enjoy your shitty community I guess. dur

verbal junco
sterile surge
stuck vessel
primal umbra
# jagged ferry 20 years as a network engineer and ran servers for a good 8-10 years.. I have a ...

Chum and Cleo have a point
Send proof that there is a large amount of cheaters and how they are exactly cheating
The issue will be investigated and those people will get banned, it is that simple
I dont see a reason why you cant do it and yknow, if your claim is correct, actually make this game better?
Do you have any reason why you wouldnt clip and screenshot it?
If it is as bad as you say it shouldnt take you long to gather some evidence

stuck vessel
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Before you say “It’s not my job to report cheaters” just know that is HARD cope because you know you cant get any evidence for it.

spare bough
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i generally recognize good players names

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there isn't a cheating problem

sick stirrup
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https://discord.gg/4tCKd4q3 I see people getting banned from their secondary server for reports as well. Oh, my two cents in the 400 hours I've played is that I've seen no cheaters myself. I always had to be told that someone was hacking and then go spectate them. It's hard to spot them.

jagged ferry
stuck vessel
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I'm gonna say it again. If you want to win this argument its very easy. No more "I play this game a lot" or "I'm a network engineer so i know what im talking about". Just RECORD some people cheating, and it will prove your claim that it is easy to find people who cheat in this game.

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I dont understand why you would be reluctant to do that other than if you were wrong.

spare bough
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i’ve talked to a mod, i’ve talked to a server admin, they barely ever get reports on real cheaters

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in all my time playing i have never seen a good olayer complain about a cheating problem

jagged ferry
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Some nob cheese i've blocked keeps talking. and meizu, i've already said it's not my job. If they are too incompetent to implement a PROPER antyicheat, nto this eac garbage then it's their problem. don't care. I can go about and play either way. Too sad that this discord is filled with simps, trying to get trial mod/staff etc, see it as some kind of accomplishment. I bet you are all submitting your applications in too. I will just leave this discord again as I don't a/ hang about people who literally want to ruin the game more by saying people DON"T cheat and b/ are so in denial it's actually sad to read.

stuck vessel
south hollow
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dur Some boomer troll writes in paragraphs to waste your time to say he hackusates constantly.

spare bough
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💀even if it’s bait it’s an entertaining read

stuck vessel
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He also inexplicably seems to have two accounts or something, Im really not sure whats up with that.

south hollow
light token
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This is not appropriate as a suggestion, if you got to complain about hackers, go to general

stoic gust
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Are the cheaters in the same room with us right now?

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abstract coyote
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Wdym cheaters? I don't have time looking for one in 127 vs 127 server

primal umbra
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Bro who posted this really had 2 accounts and used them to pretend to be 2 different people just to try and win the argument with "trust me bro"

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Also does bro really think it's belivable that he has a full time job as a network engineer and somehow has enough time to play the game for 1000+ hours