How to fix Medic!

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How to fix Medic

Medic is actually a support class, even tho it's used an an assault, ergo, used wrongly..

Everyone complains it's overpowered, it's a 1-man army, and in it's current, broken state, it is..

Everyone also complains, that Snipers, are not team players, "they just sit on the outskirts, popping a few players, here & there"...

News Flash!
The Medic is also NOT a team player, currently.

Therefore, I've thought about this a lot, so here's my idea's

Weapons

SMG's, PDW's & Maybe Carbines

They don't need AR's, as they are supposed to be helping/supporting the team/squad push. These are reserved for the Assault class.

Teamplay

1 change will make the medic, less OP, bring it back to being a team-player, while not completely nerfing it..

Remove the self heal from the medkit.
By removing this, the Medic class now has to rely on other medics for heals, meaning, they are no longer 1-man armies, or OP.

Team mates will now have to protect the medic, for that push, making him more important.

He can no longer run off, and do his own thing, for so long..

That's not to say he's useless, he still has 20 bandages, which means, he can still heal himself like 6 times, before he runs out.. It's just no longer infinite..

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Yes, a controversial take, I get it, I'm a big Medic fan boy, but I play a Medic, to be a Medic, not Rambo, that's what Assault is for..

FYI, the Support class cannot just click to replenish his ammo.. "because it's OP", Yet.. The Medic can...

I know that this will get frowned on, as people don't want to lose their OP chars, but Medics are broken.. Removing weapons they should have, I dunno, I don't see how that'll help..

Think of the big picture, not just you K/D.

[split steppe]

I agree, should not be able to self heal with the med kit.

[stray crystal]

No mention of removing C4 which is a HUGE problem on medic
Weapon choices are all about CQC killing, most meta weapons is in those categories, while AR's are all rounder guns with less killing potential and more flexibility, something that fits a support class
Then medic is still too fast and has too many mags at the same time, so remove ranger vest

[willow blaze]

No. Just make self-heal slower than normal.

[versed ruin]

Spicy take here

[abstract badge]

That does not fix it tbh

[willow blaze]

Mid-combat is the main issue

[abstract badge]

Currently the Medic class is Rambo

[versed ruin]

But I want my SMG back and the bandage heal is a lot actually

[abstract badge]

Which is why 90% of players use it

[fierce wagon]

People dont play medic because its OP, people play it because with how damage and bleeding works it is the least tedious class to play. If you want fewer people to play medic as assault, buff assault to make it fun. Just flat out nerfing medic would kill a pretty large play style for no reason other than “thats how the class is supposed to be”.

[versed ruin]

40hp per bandage is quite substantial

[abstract badge]

It's not a nerf, it's a balance

[willow blaze]

It no longer has the speed it has before, all classes have the same self-heal time, and no other class can really survive as long. People simply won't play medic often, period, if this change happens.

[fierce wagon]

Please dont argue in bad faith. Removing self heal is, in fact, unequivocally, a nerf.

[abstract badge]

ok

[willow blaze]

Or just add a specific amount of HP they can heal themself to

Not affected by bandages

And then make bandages take longer

Problem solved

Not like I see medic as OP, but if this is your change, here's a compromise

Medic is meta because every other class is shit at surviving

[thick violet]

and if every class is shit that means that medic is....?

[willow blaze]

better at surviving? okay? not the problem?

if one class is superior at surviving by such a margin, all other classes are the issue

[thick violet]

it in my opinon has been ultra destructive to the health of the game trying to tap dance to bring every class up to medic

[willow blaze]

nerf medic a little, bring classes survivability up by giving them slightly more bandages

[thick violet]

tbh surviving wasnt even that bad in the play tests before everyone got self heal

[willow blaze]

self-bandage times is the same as medics for all classes now anyway

[thick violet]

in that moment if medic had its self heal removed all the way back then

[orchid granite]

it's removing unlimited self healing, you can still heal yourself with bandages like other classes, and you can still do more due to 20 bandage count

yeah it's a nerf but it wont bring it down to useless, it will bring it in line with other classes in efficiency

[thick violet]

games would be so much faster not everyone has tons of healing people needed to work together

[pine knoll]

If a Medic is allowed to run alone for 90% just able to heal itself after every engagement then there is something overpowered about it, nobody should be able to play Medic as if he is RAMBO since it ruins what the actual purpose of a MEDIC is.

[thorn widget]

in Zero Sievert, an extraction shooter, there's a mechanic where the more you get shot the less maximum health you get from simple bandages and medkits

I like the idea of capping max health you can heal with your own medkit to increase mortality rates of rogue medics

[willow blaze]

i dont even understand why medic can self heal infinitely

[solemn frost]

I like this idea but the medic should then get bandages buffed to 30 and exclude support's ammo kits from selling bandages. Highly recommend you add this to the suggestion message if you like it enough.

[thorn widget]

I don't think that's how you fix this, that's how you nerf a squad that doesn't work together, but not targeting the medic

[restive wigeon]

People acting like medic doesnt get 3 shotted by every gun because they run ranger vest is insane. You cant heal death

[fierce wagon]

Do you also want to remove medic’s self bandage speed bonus? Im pretty sure if you let medic heal with bandages it would be faster than with the medkit.

[orchid granite]

30 would be too much, 25 perhaps as a middle ground if they are required to use them more for themselves

[solemn frost]

Medics can easily help the bleeding of other people or drop bandages

[orchid granite]

i mean other classes will have the same self bandage speed as current medic

medics will be able to bandage others faster still

[solemn frost]

thats why 30 is good cause they would be able to do that type of stuff more ^

[willow blaze]

just make bandages from medics heal 100hp and remove the medkit entirely :D

[solemn frost]

also counting the amount of times they'll need to heal themselves

which is why I agree if Oki were to remove self heal from medic box they'll start playing Doctor more

[restive wigeon]

No support supports either most play for themselves. Enginner uses Rockets tô kill people and not vehicles

[fierce wagon]

Every class can already heal itself after every engagement, it just sucks less to do with medic.

[unkempt vortex]

@fierce wagon are you aware of the announced changes?

[pine knoll]

Making other classes heal themselves doesn't solve the issue of the Medic being simply overpowered

[restive wigeon]

Hows that

[unkempt vortex]

After these changes Assault will be meta, not medic

[fierce wagon]

That’s possible

[restive wigeon]

If everyone is a medic, then médic is useless

[solemn frost]

Hmm,

[unkempt vortex]

Meta is, and will always be, whatever allows people to be RAMBO

[edgy bridge]

Instead of just simple removal of self-heal, rework the medkit

[fierce wagon]

If assault does end up being meta, no changes to medic are needed

[orchid granite]

i've lost count of times i rez a medic and he instantly stands up and bolts away cuz they can just heal themselves while on full sprint for free

no self medpack heal would add necessary teamplay and less selfish playstyle

[restive wigeon]

I ll just switch from médic to assault and keep stomping people honestly

[robust gale]

you can bandage yourself to heal while sprinting 👍

[edgy bridge]

👍

[unkempt vortex]

Guys you dont understand: Whatever incentives teamplay, will never be meta. Meta is what makes the most kills, helping your team, in fact, is not making kills

[marsh escarp]

Implement this in milsim
milsim when

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That's what the Assualt class is supposed to do..

[pine knoll]

Me trying to revive a downed person

[fierce wagon]

Necessary team play sounds awful. I dont want to play as a team and thats fine, nerfing that play style is pointless.

[abstract badge]

it's in the name ffs... ASSAULT

[edgy bridge]

Off topic, mods crush his rock collection

[orchid granite]

that's what assault class should be for, not medic

[thick violet]

do you play in squads by yourself? because thats necessary team play

[fierce wagon]

Yes it does. It brings all other classes on par with medic, which means its not OP

[solemn frost]

Assault still wont be meta as in getting most kills. They'll be able to maybe get 6+ guys holding a position if they are good enough but they still wont be able to lone wolf 24/7 due to limited bandages

[pine knoll]

Yet it's still played 85% of the time

[solemn frost]

don't know why people think they'll be able to do the same stuff they did with medic for long with assault

[rugged wagon]

There is an inherent flaw with the infinite availability of medic's self sustain.
While I'm fine with it being THERE, I don't think it should be infinite.

[unkempt vortex]

Makiing an "How to fix Medic" post after all the announced changes is a bit weird

[fierce wagon]

Not if other classes are brought up to match it? I would love to play assault instead of medic, i like its passives more. But I cant because self heal is so annoying right now on anything other than medic

[unkempt vortex]

Medic will get huge nerfs by other classes getting buffed

[muted wyvern]

medic not being able to selfheal would just mean he uses bandages instead so medics would revive even less

[willow blaze]

is p bad at it esp considering medics dont medic and this wont change that root issue. takes too long

[solemn frost]

I only agree with the self healing thing

nothing else tbh

[thick violet]

how would you bring recon/support up to medics level without making them oppressive?

[rugged wagon]

It'll be at least on par I believe? SMGs are inherently duelist weapons and with how Assault has a passive buff that is pretty damn good for dueling, I'd say SMGs in an Assaults hands are still scary.

[fierce wagon]

Better self heal

[willow blaze]

Healing themself up to 500hp sounds fine to me

[thick violet]

they were already given better self heal and another self heal buff will come and people will still medic this is indicitative of an issue with medic and not the other classes

[unkempt vortex]

What are you guys talking, infinite healing??? As if anyone ever hit 0 bandages as medic or ever thought restricting medikit healing to a set amount of HP would matter?

[willow blaze]

yet medics dont medic bc it takes too long to heal.someome

[orchid granite]

like making them faster to bandage (maybe same speed as medic!), effectively making them be able to heal at a faster rate?

[fierce wagon]

Why do you say people will still medic? Why do they choose medic in the first place?

[rugged wagon]

I've hit 0 bandages :v

[willow blaze]

it Does matter, for me n other medic mains.

ive for sure healed myself for >1000hp in one life before

[orchid granite]

cuz the other classes aren't as good at surviving forever as medic?

[thick violet]

people play medic to heal infinitely and have 20 bandages give recon that and there would be instant outcry

[unkempt vortex]

Yall dont ever live longer than 2 minutes why would you care? In fact, nobody does - except maybe snipers

[solemn frost]

that is indeed a problem I have with medic

[thick violet]

if you gave support regen armor there would be blood in the streets

[rugged wagon]

never seen a good medic before.

[thick violet]

this is an issue with medic

[willow blaze]

thats a skill issue bc i can live for 5-10 depending on map

[rugged wagon]

the fucking scary part about a good medic is that he's not only extremely good in taking fights but also keeping his mates up consistently

[fierce wagon]

The number of bandages and amount of healing has little if anything to do with why I play medic.

[solemn frost]

in fact most of the time people who I were to heal would just leave me and bandage themselves instead of standing and waiting for the slow healing process

[orchid granite]

so why don't you play assault? since those are irrelevant you might as well get the free reload and ADS from assault

[unkempt vortex]

Medic can't self heal with bandages right? Only when bleeding right?

[solemn frost]

yes

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Bandages work for self heal on all chars

[orchid granite]

Only if they are bleeding, after that you can't bandage for HP

[fierce wagon]

This is not true

[edgy bridge]

Medic can't rn, but i think it can just be changed with a simple true statement (They can stop their own bleeding and receive health, but cannot use without bleeding)

[rugged wagon]

Weeeeell, yesn't, you CAN only bandage yourself as medic when bleeding but it will still heal you as it would any other class.

[abstract badge]

fair, I didn't know this.. Bit stupid imo

[fierce wagon]

I assume its because healing would be faster than with the medkit

[pine knoll]

Yeah but medic lonewolving around the map is not correct and was not the initial idea of what a medic should do

[unkempt vortex]

Bro makes a thread about balancing medic and doesn't know medics cant use bandages on themselves 💀

[abstract badge]

well. there's the fix then, change it so they can, and remove self-heal from the medkit

[thorn widget]

Why not just remove the medkit
and have the medic bandage everyone up with his surplus of bandages

[unkempt vortex]

I mean, i mostly stayed out of that discussion since I have 0 hours in medic as well

but even I knew

[abstract badge]

Maybe because I've never had to, as a Medic, it's too easy to just click with the medbox

which is the problem

[rugged wagon]

I personally don't like when people bandage in front of me, the whole benefit of having a medic heal you is that you can keep the bandage for later when you need it.

that's just me venting tho

[solemn frost]

ew

[willow blaze]

healing myself for 1500hp in one life is very goood

[unkempt vortex]

First of all, since every class in the next update will bandage as fast as medic: Who cares, medic will not be meta next patch

[abstract badge]

And OP

[orchid granite]

making medkit work like support's box right now is the most fair solution right now

be able to heal others with it or be able to drop it and interact for healing without bandage use, hell even keep being able to pick it up again like you already are able to

[unkempt vortex]

Secondly, there is no problem in infinite healing when 20 bandages are basically infinite healing

[willow blaze]

limiting it would work

[thorn widget]

Medic will still be meta not because of his heal speed
but because of his infinite potential heal

[willow blaze]

Nuh uh, it only does 40hp

and you cant self bandage as medic

[unkempt vortex]

Again, if you ever hit 0 bandages when self healing with bandages (if it would work), then you didnt fight enough where you would be OP

[willow blaze]

my 30 kills in one life begs to differ

[stiff oasis]

@abstract badge removing explosives and adding granade launcher and adding inertia would fix everything

[unkempt vortex]

that only works if you fight from and in front a Medic orgi behind some cover that will always revive you

[unkempt vortex]

What do you mean with "life", when you gave up, or when you die but still get revived?

Also it doesnt happen often.

[willow blaze]

revived yes

it happens p often w clan/friends

[fierce wagon]

If you want to change the role of medic from what it currently is thats fine, but doing it by removing features that people like with no replacement whatsoever is not a good idea.

I personally dont see any reason to make medic only viable as a medic if your just going to move its existing playstyle to another class. Nothing changes.

[last walrus]

Just remove C4

[unkempt vortex]

and therefore that doesn't at all represent the average BB player

[solemn frost]

based

[willow blaze]

it represents the people the aversge player complains abt

[last walrus]

And potentially add breaching charges

[solemn frost]

Uh.. yeah thats the reason for the upcoming update my guy. To push the gameplay so medic stays medic and assault stays assault

The replacement is the assault class

[unkempt vortex]

Anyway, after the update medic and assault will switch class pickrates

[solemn frost]

the mass change is less people picking medic just to lone wolf

[pine knoll]

• Medic should not hold explosives
• Slower selfheal on medic
• All bandages should have the same usage speed
• Medic guns should be slimmed down to weapon classed which would allow it to move around but not being a killing machine on its own

[fierce wagon]

Cool! So this suggestion is pointless.

[solemn frost]

not really

its a suggestion make medic yet again be medic

to make*

although note that I only agree with the removing self heal

[orchid granite]

it's a suggestion to make Medic not be Assault+

[solemn frost]

everything else seems like another can of worms

[thorn widget]

removing carbines and pdws from medics makes it less of a killing machine, so that's a start

[last walrus]

You're being incredibly obtuse

[fierce wagon]

No im not.

[restive wigeon]

Lets give everyone medkit and remove médic from the game too

Or just give them pistols they are a support class they shouldnt be able tô kill people just defend theirselves

[pine knoll]

That's basically #1178791042221359195

[rugged wagon]

That’s why they had the PDW tho

[restive wigeon]

Honestly, a better Idea than making medic bad

[rugged wagon]

Yk Personal Defence Weapon

[fiery kite]

this sounds like a great change that you could make on your own community server!

[restive wigeon]

Cant wait to play my pdw p90 next patch as a medic

[rugged wagon]

I just want my HB back

I don’t need the fucking G3

That thing ugly as hell

[edgy bridge]

Yes you do

[rugged wagon]

No

I don’t want it

Give me back my baby

[edgy bridge]

Nah, I'd keep it

[fierce wagon]

Honestly I wouldnt even mind merging the medic and support classes into one thing since their "intended" play styles seem to be pretty similar, with support matching it better than medic currently does. Just update assault to fill the role that medic does right now.

Idk how heal bot medics and supports would feel about that change though

[restive wigeon]

Yeah, people just want current medic to be called assault they just don't realise

[winged shadow]

This wont do anything 😭

Half decent player will still burn ammo before bandages and oh look heres a supply crate

🗿

Hell this would probably buff medic with current bandage speed

[wind iris]

Give medics more XP for revives and heals and you will immediately see 50x more active medics. Number go up = dopamine in brain. The 4 days when medics were getting giga XP was the most active I have seen the medic community. Conquest has 20 dedicated repairers every game now because they get giga XP for repairs. Will good players still lone wolf shit on everyone yeah, but they will do that no matter what you make the meta, changing the whole class because of <1% of the player base does is silly just give medics XP for doing their intended job.

[crude kernel]

what are you saying about muh heckler and cock?

[restive wigeon]

Bleed only exists to make everyone but medic suffering to play but hey fuck medic lets nerf it

[broken glen]

The problem with medic is that it allows you to be very agressive, and it gets in the way of classes like assault and engineer. Just limite the usage of the medi kit to self with charges and create a new version like "heavy medi kit" that behaves like the one we have but nerfs your movement speed.

[feral portal]

First of all, it is rather other classes need to be balanced under the independence of the medic. People play on it not to constantly heal others, but to resist crowds of people and with a good game to defeat groups of enemies. As a medic you are not invincible, you have the same health as the other classes (except support) and if you don't move well and don't shoot well you are a nobody as a medic. The best suggestion for getting people to play as any class, (except sniper) is to give a box of xp to all classes for 6 full uses. If something like that happens, I the level of overall skill in the game will increase and the game will become harder and more interesting to play. In addition, the game in the OBT and such an update in the form of a test for a week or two will collect a general idea of players from such changes. And, well, and another thing, if your proposal is approved, then most likely you are more likely to balance not a medic and online at the game to 1k players.

[median rune]

Remove c4 from medic and reduce magazines on medic from every gun, they really shouldn't be a pusher just there to tag along to help when they can, that's the reason they have so much movement

[robust gale]

They should also be slower than exo support

[median rune]

Generally, you would be around supports so ammo is not an issue, but away from your team it'd be more of an issue

[last walrus]

reduce mags? What if they just had less ammo?

tbh everyone except support should lose one mag and medics should lose two. Id play support if I knew people would run to me for ammo and free points but if 99% of the playerbase can go a whole session without ever running out of ammo whats the point

[warm valve]

can't just the medkit play like the support class ammo box. heal others but you must drop the medkit to heal yourself?

[tranquil sorrel]

If bandages work the same for everyone then that works

[warm valve]

doesn't it work the same now?

[winged shadow]

Medic can't bandage before bleeding

[warm valve]

oh yaaa

[small karma]

People don't want tactics, people don't want roles. People need to run and gun. Medic gives you that. You get hit, a couple seconds and you're back in combat. Take away the medic's healing and we get the run of a disabled man who gets shot and sits there bandaging himself up. That's why there are fewer players for other classes, because they break the "run and gun" formula. If they want thoughtfulness, they go squad or Arma.

I don't have a solution, but thinking about a possible development vector is to make the other classes as fun as medic, not make medic as boring as the others

[winged shadow]

Can we just copy bf4 or 5 or 2042 healing at this point

[plucky lance]

medic doesnt need fixing

[winged shadow]

Dont worry i can fix her

[celest nacelle]

average moderator opinion

this isn't a milsim (yet)

[terse prawn]

If they want to run and gun, Assault should be the class for that. If they want to support other players, medic should be the class for that. It's not that hard!

[timber pewter]

now how do u suggest doing that 🤔

[solemn frost]

hes just stating what medic ought to be

I think parts of the suggestion(s) in this thread is good enough to look at and consider

[timber pewter]

lol ik, it’s just hard to make everyone happy

like I enjoy the flexibility of medic, being able to be aggressive or support when I want to, but it def needs balancing

[terse prawn]

Everyone being happy is a stupid goal, unless you want to be Call of Duty

[timber pewter]

I mean it depends on what way the devs wanna take it

oki has mentioned he wants the milsim way iirc

but all the medic mains wouldn’t stand for those kind of changes

[solemn frost]

this game and community always wanted it to be a milsim like game with battlefield characteristics

[timber pewter]

loll bold assumption😂😂

[solemn frost]

people from other FPS games/communites saw this as just a shoot em up game and picked the most shoot em up class

[timber pewter]

well yea

and that’s a large part of the community

[warm valve]

oddly enough, it was the magazine combining system that won me over

[solemn frost]

i have some OCD so yes I really loved the magazine system

always like my mags to have the most ammo

[warm valve]

I was like "damn this blocky game is actually realistic wtf"

[timber pewter]

the mag system is just a sick design choice, even if it’s only there cuz realism

again, I think a lot of these harsh class balancing will come when the milsim mode comes out

[hot narwhal]

Ok, what if they reduced the max amount you could heal to by a percentage per bullet taken.

For example, 0.5% lower max heal per bullet taken

If you get shot 20 times then you’re only able to heal yourself up to 90% hp and have to bandage the rest.

Reduces medic’s survivablity when solo and could maybe make it so that the reduction resets when healed by other medics. Thereby incentivising team play

Not a huge nerf but provides a solid cap to how much medic can run solo, adds further incentive for team coordination and provides a reason for medic to at least remain close to other medics

[winged shadow]

anything like that incentives suiciding but ok

[stiff portal]

Sad to see you actually posted this bs.

The problem is with the tedious bleeding and healing mechanic. The only reason why I'm even on the medic class is so I don't have to deal with these mil sim mechanics in my massive player base shooter. You can't even spawn without being put in a bleed, needing to heal, or dying half the time.

If all bandages healed to 100%hp this would actually make me play Assault. I know for a fact all of the 'rambo' medics would agree.

[elder hare]

You all want a final solution? Full arcade, old battlefield style, it's the only way to fix these bullshit problems, these problems exist only because Oki hasn't removed the milsim mechanics

He wants the game to survive? Go full battlefield, leave milsim for later

[hot narwhal]

Then just not have it reset when you suicide?

[winged shadow]

[charred patrol]

the difference is to self supply you gotta drop the box meaning anyone can find and use it
not a simple click for 5 seconds and oh all my ammo back

also I see way more supports giving ammo when people ask then medics healing when you ask

[versed ruin]

Bc medics are selfish

[stray crystal]

Who would have guessed that a class that caters to mostly sweats, 'pro'-LMAO-players, and every 14 yo with adhd with its features and capabilities would end up having selfish players

[fierce wagon]

This game is balanced around facilitating solo play. Being selfish is expected.

[stray crystal]

Well then, balance sucks ass and should be changes around groups of players

Otherwise with 254 competwnt solo players that can do everything we will have obnoxious game

The unprecedented scale of this game requires some different solutions

[fierce wagon]

This has always been the direction for BBR: #bbr-news message

We decided to go more casual type (Battlefield etc) which is you are a super-alone wolf soldier. Which is, the game doesn't require a REAL teamwork and faster than the current one.

[stray crystal]

Yes, more casual comparing to previous BBR, which was like Arma/Squad

[fierce wagon]

"super-alone wolf soldier.", "Which is, the game doesn't require a REAL teamwork and faster than the current one."

Obviously he wants some teamwork, but does not expect players to care about their teammates

Which is why you see selfish medics

[solemn frost]

2018 my guy

that post is more than a few years old...

[fervent vortex]

"Health sure is important!" "I suppose someone will heal me if I pick assault" nobody does "Just gonna flank as medic and heal myself 10 times because I never get rescued by team mates" is kinda how this games goes no?

[solemn frost]

Atm yes

I actually stopped going medic myself a long time ago cause other medics wouldn't revive me and go off to do their own thing. I felt like I was the only medic doing my job

[bronze prism]

Basically my experience. I'm playing medic like always, and I revive and health other players all the time, but it's so strange to see more players like that...

[bronze prism]

Literally

[fervent vortex]

also flanking as anything but medic is a deathwish imo

[bronze prism]

But I'm an asshole and I still play as the -golden retrieber- medic lmao

[terse prawn]

nonono teamwork is fundamental! It says so on the Steam store page!

[pure pewter]

tbh one way or another Medic has to be nerfed someday, the problem with them is that Medic has always been a better Assault that has infinite self healing and most of Assault's kit just for no stat buffs of the Assault. People have suggested some ways to buff Assault and other classes which mainly wants to increase the self healing of other classes or give them gimmicks that Medic wouldn't have but there's problems with those.

1. Increase self healing of other classes?
   Then Medic's intended role would become obsolete at some point if we keep increasing self healing for others, with self bandaging speed going to be the same as Medic and supply crates you'd barely need to stick around for a Medic who actually do their job to heal you.

2. Give other Assault more gimmicks so people would actually play Assault to assault instead of Medic?
   Medic's ability to self heal infinitely is definitely one of the reasons why it's meta af, any buff or gimmick given to Assault would have to be stupendously strong to top Medic in the role of assaulting and flanking and that's gonna be a balancing nightmare, game's no fun if you're going to get killed even faster than now.

Medic arguably oversteps the role of Assault way too much because their kit is way too similar as of now and has infinite self healing on top of that, so most people don't play Medic as intended and play like Assault because it is indeed a better Assault

[winged shadow]

Bf2042 be like

[hazy heron]

Fix medic: No C4, give AV nade.

[stray crystal]

No c4. No AV nade, breaching charge for destruction only

[prime trail]

No breaching either, Hammer time!

[hazy heron]

AV nade is fine tho

But I wouldn't even give them breach charge

just get them the sledge hammer

Sledge hammer/pickaxe should just be a third gadget that everyone has tbh.

[stray crystal]

It's goofy but I can get behind that

[stiff portal]

Medics are useless as an aggressive player, hardly any good guns, no healing benefit on bandages over the other classes.

[restive wigeon]

Médic lost enough things already

[fervent vortex]

medic worst class fr fr lmao

[restive wigeon]

After the update its not going to be useless as recon but very much less desirable to play

[crude kernel]

less diserable for aggression although team healing should be buffed to make medic a better medic