Flir Scope Sucks right now

[sturdy nova]

As the title suggests. The Flir has waaaaaay too many downsides to make it even usable let alone enjoyable. Here are all the downs;

1. It is the ONLY medium range scope attachment to nerf your gun stats. -0,3 to first shot kick and control, ads and draw speed get worse with it.

2. There is a timer on how long you can use it before you need to recharge...

3. LAG; its glitchy and laggy making it kinda harder to see people when they move slightly.

4. The main problem; The scope dot is TOO large... good luck shooting anyone over 100 meters becuase the green scope literally covers the entire area where you're aiming. what's the point of having a medium range scope when it can only accurately show people at close range....?

Rightnow this scope is as bad as the Meme F-U scope. I would understand having 1 or 2 of the above mentioned drawbacks but come on all of them together is way too much and makes me want this scope to get rebalanced.

[fluid ruin]

for real

[violet shale]

Oki increased fps of flir to 30

So thats weird

[thorn ravine]

I'm fine with 1-3, those all feel like reasonable balancing decisions for how effective it can be in the right situation. Number 4 is definitely something that should be looked at though, even when the target is supposed to be exactly centered my bullet flies past them, it just makes the damn thing feel bugged.

[sturdy nova]

yeah 4 is my main issue with the gun

[violet shale]

It is usable with 30fps

[fluid ruin]

the reticle and the movement speed are the things that are the worst about this thing

[sturdy nova]

the rest can stay for all I care but damn let me see past 100 M

[violet shale]

Do you have highest lod?

And highest render distance

[sturdy nova]

oh its about the scope dot not render distance

[violet shale]

Scope is fine tbh

[sturdy nova]

the dop covers the entire body at 100 m so you have a much harder time seeing where you're shooting

[violet shale]

It was worse

[sturdy nova]

its still bad

[violet shale]

Tbh it is fine

[sturdy nova]

like bad to the point I am sure no one uses that scope other than testing it out

and realizing it sucks

[violet shale]

@sturdy nova what resolution you are using

[sturdy nova]

highest?

[violet shale]

What resolution

[sturdy nova]

2560

[violet shale]

Ok

2560x1440

Try using streched

1920x1440

[thorn ravine]

You do realise higher resolutions hurt performance right

[sturdy nova]

^ wasnt the whole point of this game to make it accessible to everyone

just change the scope and stop jumping over the hurdels

[fluid ruin]

the reticle needs to be changed.

[violet shale]

1920x1440 is a streched 2560

[fluid ruin]

movement speed on a scope is also questionable as a balancing decision

[sturdy nova]

I think if they removed the circile thats around the dot at the center it would help big time

[fluid ruin]

oh yeah

[thorn ravine]

Hot tip I just figured out in the meantime, just lean while aiming and zero in high so you aim by putting the reticle out of the way of your target

[fluid ruin]

ok

but seriously, what mf will test that out or even attempt it in a round

[thorn ravine]

I wrote this as I was getting kills watching over Wineparadise E point haha

FLIR makes it very easy to spot the sneakys coming through the forest

[fluid ruin]

yeah but shooting with anything that doesn't one tap is... an experience

[thorn ravine]

Oh yeah M200 or bust

I can't see it being good on much else

[fluid ruin]

i'd rather take the 40x and stay at 1.5km lmao

[thorn ravine]

Just tried the 20x for the memes and scope sway makes me want to puke

As in, motion sickness

Even the 8x felt overkill at non-absurd ranges

I really don't know why glint is needed

[wind furnace]

Maybe get good?

[fluid ruin]

bipod

[iron iron]

POV: your argument is invalid.

[thorn ravine]

Isn't the M4 doing like 5 damage at that range

[iron iron]

378 meters so idk

it's more for the "flir is hard to aim with" people

i am positive most people are using it wrong. use thermal mode to locate distant targets easily and use NV mode to actually shoot

[fluid ruin]

there is no nv mode and also, a thermal scope, not supposed to be used in thermal when shooting?

[iron iron]

??? it literally says press caps to change mode

[fluid ruin]

yes, thermal to normal

not nv

[iron iron]

strange, at one point it was NV

[fluid ruin]

idk

[iron iron]

either way, you can shoot with thermal mode, it's just easier to switch

[fluid ruin]

but that doesn't change the fact that the reticle needs to be fixed in order for it to not just be a meme option, also a movement speed nerf for using it? a scope? come on

and that "solution" is also just a bandaid fix, it doesn't fix the flaws

[iron iron]

i mean i'll take a buff if it happens, I personally don't have issues using it

[fluid ruin]

i want to use it on more than... i don't use it, it's a joke
bad on lmgs, dmrs and snipers so no reason to use it

[sturdy nova]

so your proof here is just a random spray in the general direction of an enemy with an M4 which does like 5 dmg. also using a midrange scope on an AR is beyond questionable LOL

the genuin surprise and shock reaction from actually hitting the target says it all

Scope is a meme atm please buff

[iron iron]

bro, I suck at tap firing so I accidently shot two bullets. I was zeroed for 300 meters and taking pot shots for my recon buddy I was supporting, I didn't expect to get the kill since the M4 does 10.4 damage at that range. That's why I was so shocked. It's not that deep. The fact that I can accurately plink a target (which I was consistently doing at that range the whole match) is proof enough that the scope is not that bad.

Clip context is that I was using the FLIR to spot for a recon, however I was getting consistent kills at medium range (under 100m) the whole match.

Ask for context next time before you try and clown me.

[fluid ruin]

300m with a 2.4x 🤷

[sturdy nova]

sweatheart other people wanna use the scope for more than just spotting for a sniper buddy. But thats the whole point. its only good for spotting but makes your gun basically useless at the intended ranges. I still see it as a meme attachement and not something anyone actually would use to get good gameplay out of it.

why do you have such an aversion for making itt better?

good enough for a side piece spotter like you isn't good enough for everyone FYI

[iron iron]

Buddy it totally has uses other than spotting, I haven't taken the FLIR off my M4 since the fps buff. I'm also not against making it better, I'm simply pointing out that it's not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Spend an afternoon with it and you'll get used to it. If it gets buffed then horary, even more utility.

also you can slap a red dot on top of it for close range encounters too.

[sand wraith]

I expected "low shadow resolution makes reticles blurrier" to be more common knowledge. https://www.reddit.com/r/BattleBitRemastered/comments/14cputx/shadow_resolution_setting_greatly_affects/
https://www.reddit.com/r/BattleBitRemastered/comments/15d74ra/does_anyone_notice_how_different_players_have/

Still seems like something that should be fixed

[iron iron]

just tested, totally works

actually massive improvement on most sights

1024 shadow resolution vs. 4096

[sturdy nova]

WOW thats crazy! maybe devs need to see why the low rez changes it THIS MUCH

[sturdy nova]

tested it out even then the scope feels like it has some kind of delay to it where some shots don't hit moving targets. its weird