Fix prone to sprint movement

[frank geode]

Currently prone to sprint animation doesn't match the actions players do. (See dropshotting clip from decimals video)
The player is able to go at running speed while still in the process of getting up from proning, essentially causing players actions to not match (Fast speed while model is busy getting up from the ground.

One way battlefield 4 for example addressed this is by not allowing you to move when prone to sprinting.
Battlefield 2042 did this by allowing slower movement in the process of getting up from proning

Personally i find BF4 to be too stiff with it's prone to sprint, so going about it like BF2042 did might be better.

[frank geode]

@gray lantern Someone finally made this fucking suggestion

[light hatch]

we will miss dropshot dearly

[frank geode]

Wdym miss? You can still dropshot?

Just prone and shoot

You just wont go full speed when pressing shift

From prone

[thorny eagle]

Another dogshit take

[frank geode]

It's literally prone to sprint fix what do you want

Fucking slithering across the floor while going full speed

[thorny eagle]

Shoot the person stop complaining 62hrs in game 470 in shoot range!!!

[frank geode]

Even sno agreed that prone to sprint needs a fix

Here you have a fix

If you have a better idea then go ahead

[limpid prism]

Poor casual getting deprived of their win fight button, better start hitting the aimlabs

[thorny eagle]

I would gap u in anything lmao who are you even?

[limpid prism]

Someone who adapts instead of complaining 😎

[thorny eagle]

Adapts? Yet you are here wanting a change lmao

[limpid prism]

Ofc already mastered current meta, shit's stale

[frank geode]

Only constant is change
-Some smart guy

[thorny eagle]

What's Ur kd kpm then?

[crisp garnet]

2, 2

[thorny eagle]

Highest kill on official

[crisp garnet]

84

[thorny eagle]

Bro cooking

That's what I thought don't respond lmao

[limpid prism]

Too busy going on killstreaks to look 😌

[thorny eagle]

5x is not a kill streak

[crisp garnet]

sniper pog

[limpid prism]

Ok :)

[thorny eagle]

So what is Ur kd / kpm?

[modern void]

inc

[limpid prism]

Literally never looked, too busy enjoying the game to jerk off to some meaningless numbers

[thorny eagle]

That's what I thought, get gapped

[limpid prism]

Like, imagine caring about stats in a game without matchmaking or competitive mode

[vestal garden]

real

[thorny eagle]

Don't ever try ego me

[limpid prism]

Who are you again?

[thorny eagle]

One of the best players to ever grace this game rando

[crisp garnet]

retired tho

shitter now

[modern void]

real

[crisp garnet]

lucuma you gap mia easy you gotit6

[thorny eagle]

Don't tell a random he can gap me before I hit u with a shopping cart

[limpid prism]

Weird thing to be proud of when you say everyone in this game is dogshit but ok

[crisp garnet]

mia u washed now u get gapped by even the worse casuals like lucuma

[thorny eagle]

Cause they are

[crisp garnet]

so hold that L mia

washed ass

[thorny eagle]

I'll reinstall the game to drop 200

[crisp garnet]

cap

[vestal garden]

🤯

[crisp garnet]

you wont touch it

[modern void]

nowaying rn

[limpid prism]

Uncut livestream so we can watch you fail in real time

[crisp garnet]

yeee

[thorny eagle]

I am uncut bro wdym

[crisp garnet]

dodging

lucuma you gotta stream it too

kill race

[thorny eagle]

@limpid prism I used to stream constant 180+ and stream snipe pupsta and ego him in 1s

[crisp garnet]

thats like 95% cap

[limpid prism]

Sure no prob good luck seeing something tho

I play on shitty wifi in my living room with the mousepad

ez game ez life

[crisp garnet]

woah now you dodging

[thorny eagle]

I'll play on a laptop to make it fair

[crisp garnet]

couple of shitters arguing smh ofc

[frank geode]

Aight pupsta, what is your take on prone to sprint fix?

[thorny eagle]

@crisp garnet don't make me give you a 3-17 incident...

[limpid prism]

Fr I've tried streaming before but my wifi is shit lel

[proven zodiac]

you talk a lot of shit you can't back up

[crisp garnet]

you could never

[thorny eagle]

@proven zodiac hello tribe members

[worldly island]

Hello

[thorny eagle]

Cause he a random

[proven zodiac]

if i somehow think this shitshow is worth my time you know its fun to watch

[crisp garnet]

yoooo bro getting jumped

[limpid prism]

Ofc I do

It's fucking roblox call of duty

[crisp garnet]

ehh touches movement so no go for me 💀

[proven zodiac]

yeah because you're braindead

[crisp garnet]

wait so you were lying?? 😱

[limpid prism]

True I am in a coma typing with my pinky toe

still gaping y'all tho

[frank geode]

😭

[gray lantern]

Not going to have people arguing take over a thread, take it too dms if you want to have and ego battle. Please stop.

[thorny eagle]

Best part of my career is when Bucky said I won game 4 on valley with my flank

[proven zodiac]

💀💀💀

[frank geode]

Sno, your take on the fix?

[thorny eagle]

Happily retired since then peak of my career

[limpid prism]

How can I refuse when you ask so politely

[crisp garnet]

retired cos yo ass cheeks

[thorny eagle]

@crisp garnet don't see you getting personally mentioned by the Bucky

[vestal garden]

if the speed from prone to sprint is pretty fast and not slow or clunky like the bf4 style it ain't that bad. Main problem with dropshotting is that the player model ain't really that synced.

[crisp garnet]

i won the only tournament in this game

i dont need bucky's mention

sorry bucky

[thorny eagle]

Wow

[proven zodiac]

i never cared for your opinion since you called my clan a bunch of shitters the first time you saw them

[golden badge]

Oxigen how do you have so much hubris considering how the attachments got worked this time ? Also you clearly mentioned you were a bf4 casual, so why refer that as a model ? Bf4 has more jank shit like vuzu zuzu but no one advocates to bring those in @frank geode

[proven zodiac]

but you are correct

[frank geode]

You mf we are talking about a single mechanic regarding prone to sprint and how it's handled 💀

[gray lantern]

Will start handing out mutes, figure it out guys.

[frank geode]

Not the entirety of the games movement

[proven gyro]

When someone is so invested into not changing a feature that doesn't make sense you know it's the only thing that gives them the advantage. Pure CoD brain rot, no surrounding awareness, bo outflanking, just brain-dead rush

But yeah, the change is needed

[proven zodiac]

sprint prone speed banding needs to be fixed, you can keep the movement high and fun to use without the jank serverside

[golden badge]

That doesn't invalidate my question. I wouldn't have cared if someone with more active playtime gave the same take.

[crisp garnet]

oh uh, sorry for that

[frank geode]

I cant with you Kata

[proven zodiac]

np

[golden badge]

there comes the emoji

now mentions of nervous disorders and mental disorders shall follow

[vestal garden]

ggs

[frank geode]

So sno, your take on the prone to sprint fix proposed?

[gray lantern]

Just be nice.. holy

[gray lantern]

Prone to sprint animation is mega fucked. Head mine as well be in kneecaps while you’re full speed sprinting.

[vestal garden]

I mean animation is the biggest thing ye

[limpid prism]

What an objectively based and correct answer

[vestal garden]

When you stand back up from behind cover u get a massive advantage

u can see them much faster then they can even see you

cuz it ain't synced

Meanwhile u can get shot if u go into prone for a couple of secs

[frank geode]

Biggest problem is the slitherin though

[limpid prism]

Ye I'm more of a Gryffindor guy

[frank geode]

https://tenor.com/view/slither-snake-slithering-cold-hearted-gif-23612948

[limpid prism]

Literally what movement addicts want to call skill

[frank geode]

Just use your chest muscles to traverse the terrain so shrimple

[limpid prism]

Kids trying to pretend it's about skill when they just have a nipple walking fetish

[frank geode]

[worldly island]

Wtf is that

[woven loom]

Finally a good suggestion

[vestal garden]

tf you on about 💀

[golden badge]

oddly specific

[obtuse turtle]

oh this shit went funny like inertia 👀

[ruby rivet]

prone to sprint speed shouldn't be changed, but the external hitbox animation should so that it matches up

otherwise it looks like sliding on the ground

[hollow wraith]

The whole reason in why this games fun for me, and many other players is its movement even with all of its disgusting bugs that negatively effect us, I could make post after post about movement buffs but I don't because I actually deal with the annoyances cause it could be worse. The same bs ur bringing up from prone to standing can be said for going from standing to prone. You get headshot behind cover all the time doing this and its really damn annoying. I'm not going engage in any back and forth with you because all you're doing is trying to push the game in a direction that's going to remove the skill ceiling little by little. its saddening that you're the type to make gaming strictly for casual players, the first game that comes along in years that actually peeks a lot of peoples interest who are hard core fps players and you're trying to get rid of them. Just play the game, and avoid the lobbies with sweats like me please. Or just go to something that from the start has more what you're looking for. Please stop trying to change the game to meet every other games standards in your mind, let it be its own.

[winged forge]

its not a problem that youre slow cope.

*our

[winged forge]

wild take

is the average gamer dad leaving because of tryhards?

[gray lantern]

💀

[limpid prism]

Keep your Freudian projections about daddy leaving to yourself

I just see a clear trend and people requesting changes

Doesn't take much to put two and two together

[winged forge]

o no snoman here have to behave

[gray lantern]

you're chillin

[winged forge]

most people on this game play conquest and the like

[deep gate]

I dont think many people would disagree with making hitboxes and viewmodels match what other players see. I don't see why bbr needs to nerf drop shotting.

[winged forge]

the concentration of people who know how to adequately use the movement mechanics in these lobbies is extremely low

yeah the numbers are going down

to assume this is somehow the tryhards fault

is a little strange to me

especially considering the presence of actual tryhards at any given point is limited to probably 4-5 lobbies atm at best

(since also a shit load of tryhards left and not only those supposedly driven away by them)

god forbid the roblox man spins around to fast and is not glued to the ground with flex tape when hes laying down

interrupts me while im babbling military jargon i heard in movies in prox chat

[light hatch]

W take

[light hatch]

correct. and all the good players stick to the 24/7 dom/front

100s in conquest are few and far between because no good player plays that mode

unless they play lb or something idk

different skillset

brings us around to skill issue. bbr movement is so incredibly easy you could make a full tutorial in half an hour and master it in half that time

the fact that the majority don't know how to do it is just major milsimmer cope

[gritty sage]

bla bla bf4 another dogshit take

[winged forge]

good argument 👍

[gritty sage]

here is my argument, If I want to play a game just like b4 I'll play bf4

[light hatch]

zouzou in bf4 not patched

why does proning need to be patched

[limpid prism]

So we all agree that most players want the changes proposed in this thread, great!

Oki already said that inertia is just a boolean so tell your 24/7 server admin to switch it off, ta-da

[winged forge]

i cant hit my shots in cs

i demand ads and the spray patterns be fixed

no.

[light hatch]

oh well

[winged forge]

1. not everyones opinion has equal weight
2. gatekeeping is sometimes necessary
3. this is not a democracy

[light hatch]

most bad cs players want run and gun and ads on most guns

should we listen to them

if the bad players had their way bhopping would have been removed entirely from cs

[limpid prism]

Imagine citing CS as an example when it literally has a casual mode that gives everyone free armor and defuse kits

[light hatch]

hmm. fair point

[deep gate]

What?

What in the world do you mean by this?

[limpid prism]

Economy management is part of CS skill expression and also not something casuals give a shit about -> tone it down and let them focus on the core gameplay
Zigzagging like a spaz is part of BBR skill expression and also not something casuals give a shit about -> tone it down and let them focus on the core gameplay

[deep gate]

There are like 3 people who play casual in cs...

[hybrid niche]

more than that to my knowledge

[deep gate]

true

maybe like 5

[obtuse turtle]

misintetpretating what Ox1gen said, no

[deep gate]

What?

[frank geode]

Gate keeping fixing just straight up broken stuff

[deep gate]

The problem is not with you wanting to fix it, it is how you want it to be fixed.

[obtuse turtle]

animation is funked 100% but even if it was fixed it'd still lead to slithering i feel like

[deep gate]

There is nothing wrong with slithering

the game does not have to be realistic

[frank geode]

How would you fix it then?

[deep gate]

Make the hitbox and player view match the animation

or alternatively make the prone animation faster to match the hitbox and player view

[frank geode]

Def should do that as well

But oki also thought that slithering + no inertia is kinda dumb

In the recent dev cast he addressed movement a bit

Waiting till they publish vod to get the exact thing he said

[hybrid niche]

give me a sec, I can grab the twitch video

[frank geode]

Oh its on twitch as well? Could you clip it and link here

[hybrid niche]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1981716780

not clipped

don't know when it was mentioned but I think like around the one hour mark

checked & around the one hour 3 minute mark

ends around the one hour five minute mark by looks

@frank geode

[frank geode]

Ill look at it on my break

[golden badge]

At this point, he is just recycling suggestions made by others to brown nose them. Do you really think he has played enough to notice this or even plans to stay around enough to care about it ?

Yeah the animation should be synced though

[frank geode]

https://clips.twitch.tv/WonderfulCourteousOilHoneyBadger-BHWobX1_31w5BQhg

[frank geode]

Oki: "I get that the game isnt mil sim, but that might be above arcade"

Even the lead developer/creator of the game thinks the movement is too much

[winged forge]

Which does not mean he has to be correct

[frank geode]

It means that even the creator thinks its too much

[winged forge]

.

[frank geode]

And the game develops based on what oki (the creator) thinks is fair for the game

[winged forge]

Hooolee give the 5 shitters that are gonna play that their dumbass mil sim mode already and just be done with it

[frank geode]

Is that all you got

Mil sim or hardcore are not coming in years

[winged forge]

all I got?

I mean you people can clearly not be convinced that dropshot/sprint and no inertia is not a problem

so that sounds like the second best option

[frank geode]

Prone to sprint is broken lmao

Why do you think it needs to stay as is?

[winged forge]

Because it's fun

[frank geode]

So a subjective feeling is the reason we need to keep prone to sprint as is, where you start at full speed while in the process getting up from the ground

You already have 0 inertia

Allows you to do instant turns at no loss to speed

But now you also want to keep broken prone to sprint

Even the game developer thinks movement is beyond arcade

[winged forge]

Is beyond arcade a bad thing?

[frank geode]

Yeah

[winged forge]

subjective feeling

[frank geode]

Is learning from other games a bad thing?

[winged forge]

not necessarily, but things don't have to be like in other games

[frank geode]

Other games balance basic movement fine, BBR is an exception

The movement is not fine in BBR

Yall can kick and cry all you want, but that is a fact shown as no game has this kind of broken movement for a good reason

[winged forge]

Calling it broken does not make it broken

[frank geode]

It is broken

[winged forge]

Sure the animations need work

[frank geode]

You go full speed while getting off the floor

[winged forge]

How many times a match do you get shit on by someone who genuinely has a grip on the movement

This game is 90% positioning

[golden badge]

@winged forge he needs to actually play long enough to encounter that consistently

[frank geode]

Lmao no

[frank geode]

Kata you have shown no counter arguments except saying skill issue, now go and make one to defend keeping current prone to sprint

[golden badge]

your bf4 does which for some reason you keep qouting even after knowing it has more jankier bugs

[frank geode]

Starmank dont do it

I saw your alt writing here

[golden badge]

search and show us where I've actually qouted skill issue while addressing you ? As usual you won't have anything to back it up

meanwhile your arguments are about rhetorical mental disorders and broken this broken that

[frank geode]

Mf your entire "argument" was that i didnt know that kind of movement even existed in the game and im somehow wrong?

[golden badge]

For someone who knows jack shit you pretend to know a lot

you yourself accepted it just now you didn't know

also why is that dudes id not muted

[frank geode]

Yeah, about buggy ass movement in bf4

[golden badge]

he said some horrendous shit

[frank geode]

12h mute. . . .

[golden badge]

like blowing air on a raging forest fire

[frank geode]

People have gotten banned for less

But yeah, Kata your entire argument as to why im wrong is that i wasnt aware of broken movement in BF4 when i was playing it for fun like 8 years ago

[golden badge]

for qouting bf4

but if we move to this, I'd expect you to play more

[frank geode]

Yeah, BASIC bf4 movement

None of that bunny hopping, player model breaking shit

[winged forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/974098023363776544/1130670346186534972/claymoremybeloved.gif

[golden badge]

Bunny hopping and airstrafing was fine there, everything like vuzu etc. manipulates animations and hitboxes

[frank geode]

SMG medic actually

[winged forge]

proud of you king

[frank geode]

Once again, I WASNT AWARE OF ANY OF THAT, because i played the game on console like 8 years ago

[golden badge]

🤨 Yes I got it, just saying bunny hopping and airstrafing was a not a bug there

everything beyond that there pretty much involves some sort of a manipulation

[frank geode]

👍

Alright kata, so why does prone to sprint (full speed) need to stay in the game

[golden badge]

you missed this

[frank geode]

Its not a balanced movement at any degree, you lower your profile making you harder to hit AND still moving as fast as regular sprinting, you can also perform every action you can as if you were running

[golden badge]

animation perspective - like I said before it could use the sync

balance perspective - I don't care really. The same feature is available for all players regardless of level or class, if someone wants to learn and use it, go ahead. Personally I haven't died to that mechanic frequently to bother about it nor do I see a huge chunk of players using it for it to be a problem.

[olive barn]

These threads do an amazing job of sorting who is the actual shitter, any kind of reasonable argument or displaying of facts is met by the most aggressive and garbage rhetoric.

(Not you directly Kata, replying to earlier points in the thread)

[limpid prism]

Frequency is not the problem, it's how salient it can be vs other experiences in-game

I've heard quite a few moments of rage after pulling that stuff on people who otherwise should have 100% gotten the kill on me

And if it is not even that common, this just reinforces the fact that it would not result in any meaningful loss to the core gameplay people are here for

[gentle bone]

Oh god another movement related post

[limpid prism]

Yep it's pretty cool how @frank geode cares about the subtleties of movement in this game to make separate posts addressing specific components

[golden badge]

Well if someone knows how to do it and uses it, I don't have a right to complain about it. Not meming - which experience or what are you referring to ?

[limpid prism]

I don't have a right to complain about it
Yeah you do XD

People getting instakilled the moment they drive out of base by spawncamping engis, instakilled when spawning on a friendly getting shot, etc.

Oh and of course how could we forget the Little Bird debacle

There's shit people don't like, they complain about like normal human beings expressing opinions and the devs decide what to do about that

[worldly island]

Hello

[golden badge]

Well people face the same thing with a dozen dmrs aimed at them when they spawn, rpgs and nade rains which happens more often but no one is upset about those

or not vocal

[limpid prism]

I don't really recall the last time I got killed by a DMR that wasn't because of me just overconfidently standing out in the open. RPG OHKs through walls are annoying but they feel less common now for some reason. And ever since trophies got implemented, nade rains feel pretty trivial to deal with.

[golden badge]

Not every support lays trophies, RPG are annoying but I can give some room since they seem inconsistent af

The DMR scenario is purely a rhetoric which you made, the same thing which I used to say for AR users or recons who were upset about smgs back then

"the only reason you are getting beamed by a smg past 100meters which had a bullet velocity of 400 avg, is because you're not moving or in the open"

very much same sort of reasoning can be applied for other things but it doesn't help

[limpid prism]

The difference being "stay mobile" is expected counterplay against snipers and similar guns under every reasonable expectation set by video games, movies and related content. SMGs being able to do that while also being the best at CQC left ARs without any niche at all.

And it was a very prevalent problem

[gritty sage]

Pretty sure dmrs cant even be called that their fire rate is of a ump

Just Dodge them

[limpid prism]

Also as I said, everyone has the right to complain and request changes. I do not see any active threads calling for DMR nerfs at this time. The RPG threads did have activity some time ago but things seem to have died down. Spawn system is also a hot topic afaik.

[rancid elm]

First it’s Attachment Rework (nothing changed) then it’s inertia, now it’s this?? Brother you must really wanna be on the dev team or just love attention

My brother in Christ who made it? You did silly goose did you forget?

[olive barn]

Can you stop posting, you shit up every thread

[rancid elm]

What you gonna do stop me

Put one of your pudgy fingers in my mouth

Maybe a bar of soap

I’m shaking in my boots rn

https://tenor.com/view/steel-cowgirl-cowgirl-boots-shimmy-dance-gif-14230948

[olive barn]

It was a request, not a threat

You thread-shitter

[rancid elm]

Request are phrased out with a question mark btw

Like a question

But I understand your limited understanding of punctuation makes up for your lack of consciousness in your thread post sir.

[frank geode]

If you have a sound argument against the suggestion then spit it out

Otherwise i would like to ask you to stay silent

[rancid elm]

Remove you from making changes would be one sound argument, didn’t change anything with the attachment rework and can’t hear a argument out when it’s not in your favor

You had an opportunity to raise the bar and didn’t even touch it with attachments

[frank geode]

I havent really praised the attachment rework, cuz i dont think it ended up being that good either, someone should probably make a suggestion to "rework the attachment rework" and explain the problems with it

[tacit ether]

Oh god

[frank geode]

Fix prone to sprint 🗣️

[rancid elm]

Im sparing you the time

[rancid elm]

NO 🗣️

[frank geode]

@rancid elm 👀 Wink wink

[tacit ether]

I agree the movement of the user doesn't line up with whats visibly there

[frank geode]

Nor does it make sense that you go max speed while getting up from the ground, robloxians are bipedal not snake hybrids

[rancid elm]

I have too much else on my plate than to do freelance labor for no profit

Thanks for the offer tho 🙂

[lucid folio]

[tacit ether]

If you don't want to give input then why are you commenting on it?

[frank geode]

Thats what im thinking rn 😭

Yall mfs will call shit bad and refuse to explain why and wonder why nothing is changing

[rancid elm]

Because it’s not the input we need or want

[tacit ether]

It is because it frustrates people that they are shooting someone's torso whilst this person is laying down so the bullets aren't getting registered server side

[limpid prism]

IMO main problem is that horizontal and vertical recoils were treated as symmetrical tradeoffs when they really aren't. And long/heavy barrels were turned into one more meh point along the stat gradient, when they could have retained their "interesting outlier" feel by increasing penalties in exchange for more noticeable buffs (e.g. long barrel should have been top speed and not suppressor, that already has sound suppression as its role-defining feature)

[golden badge]

I didn't disagree. Instead I mention I used to make the same kind of arguments. DMR nerfs not being called out is almost like no nerf for groza being called out. Just because there's not enough noise, doesn't mean its non existent.

[limpid prism]

Anyway so sad to see people jealous of players who get dev's attention with their consistently good ideas 😔

[golden badge]

male or female ?

[rancid elm]

No not at all, just think we should take into account how his previos rework did nothing and he still is desperate for attention on his other reworks

[frank geode]

Dawg Oki blurted it out, it was strcitly meant to NOT happen

[limpid prism]

Buddy that rework brought untold joy to the support players who had been asking for bipod reworks for the longest time

[frank geode]

I didn't ask to be mentioned and larry strictly told him not to, yet here we are

[limpid prism]

Looks like NDAs gotta go both ways lmao

[frank geode]

NDAs protect non-public stuff, anything mentioned publicily is then public and NDA doesn't protect against that.

[limpid prism]

I know, I mean just like the way they seem to want everyone who works with them sign NDAs, people should also get them to sign some of their own so they don't accidentally blurt out stuff like that XD (just half joking)

[olive barn]

Attachment rework was good, means you didn't have to run long barrel on everything or suffer

[golden badge]

Took away recons firepower too against exoe

[limpid prism]

skill issue

[golden badge]

hmmm

how so

[limpid prism]

Just gotta hit 'em from farther away 😌

[golden badge]

doesn't work with all rifles

*bolt actions

and not all recons prefer sitting at the edge of the map

[frank geode]

That was known, but it's not over looked, shit is just slow

[woven loom]

Can confirm, aggressive sniping is the best

[lucid folio]

bad

[olive barn]

Taking away their firepower again exo is a good change

[golden badge]

sv98 my beloved

[woven loom]

Unfortunately snipers were nerfed indirectly

[woven loom]

L96 😭

[golden badge]

@olive barn why so ?

[woven loom]

Why? It's a sniper

[olive barn]

Because it means Support can exist, this game is very sniper-biased and supports are the fattest, slowest class by a mile

[golden badge]

and one of the reasons they were useful

[woven loom]

This game is definitely not sniper biased my guy

If anything it's medic biased

[ruby rivet]

game is not sniper biased but makng exo helmets actually useful is a good thing

[olive barn]

Now it takes 2(!) shots to kill a Support wearing full armour, the travesty

[limpid prism]

Yeah either keep the OHK protection or just remove the item, otherwise it has nothing going for it for all the debuffs it brings

And having noobtrap items is just bad design

[woven loom]

The issue with snipers rn is they are way too easy to use

Little to no bullet drop and stupid high velocity

Like, 1000+ m/s is just insane

[olive barn]

And very sniper-friendly maps

[woven loom]

That kinda depends, a handful yes

[olive barn]

(not all but the majority)

[woven loom]

^

[frank geode]

Guys, we may be going too off topic here, mods about to nuke the thread

[woven loom]

Ok

[golden badge]

still more civil

[olive barn]

Yea soz

[frank geode]

true

[forest orbit]

Wdym no one

[hybrid niche]

I suppose a question is, is it healthy in the long term for the game or is it like a short term fun that hurts the game in the long term

[full harness]

its more of the get up animation being wack tbh

[ruby rivet]

yeah if the animation was faster and matched up with the player pov then it would be just better

[rancid elm]

yes let let me instantly go from prone to standing

[golden badge]

I think that the BattleBit devs need to consider retuning the prone animations in this game. If we are being as realistic as we should be in the hyper realistic depiction of combat we should factor in things such as player health and fitness, disabilities and surface texture. For example, the average male completes a push up in ~4 seconds (two up, two down), however this variable changes when a push up is performed on sand or gravel where there is less tread to grip to. Furthermore I believe that the armor a player is wearing should play factor into the timing of going prone. Someone wearing no armor and no helmet will have no movement penalty other than that relative of their texture below them, however a player wearing exo armor head to toe should face a movement penalty standing up as the have to combat the weight of the armor in the animation standing them up.

[frank geode]

Hyper realism isn't the objective or the point of this suggestion though. . . .

[obtuse turtle]

cool copy pasta
but you can agree that the current animation is fucked in multiple ways?

• getting up isn't synced leading to huge peekers advantage
• going down takes 10 years even tho you yourself see yourself already being on the ground leading to ridiculous peekers disadvantage when disengaging
• and getting up and sprinting fucks over the animation in a way that is... shaky at best, warping at worst

[golden badge]

@frank geode @obtuse turtle 🤨

I already wrote about it, some time ago.

why are you guys giving sincere replies to a copypasta ?

[obtuse turtle]

❤️

[golden badge]

since Idk how to search in threads

here's what I wrote earlier

[obtuse turtle]

copy pasta your sincere post

[golden badge]

It'd be hard to differentiate anyways considering the frequency I meme ( not often hopefully )

[obtuse turtle]

"today we do a little trolling"

[frank geode]

Just because everyone can use it doesn't mean it makes sense or is balanced

[golden badge]

😵‍💫 We already talked about it. You already said that.

[frank geode]

If you don't care about the balance then there's nothing further to discuss as movement in this game is a massive balancing shit show and the refusal to accept or recognise that fact means we cannot go further on the topic.

[rocky totem]

I mean you can kinda mask anything during the prone animation

[deep gate]

Do you think that if he guy didn't prone you would have gotten a headshot here?

What is the point of this clip?

[limpid prism]

You were probably dead before you even fired that shot

[crimson pilot]

tf is that clip

yeah im sure him not going prone wouldve made a real difference

you got shit on with or without dropshotting

[vestal garden]

too real

[crimson pilot]

nedgi alt

❗

[vestal garden]

womp womp

[rancid elm]

Bro just lost the 1 gg go next

[hollow wraith]

you realize going from standing to prone actually is shooter sided and on the person proning's screen 9 times out of 10 you die behind cover because the hitbox is still as if they were standing.

you're legit given kills when you shouldnt