#Add a Battle Rifle category?

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shrewd totem
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There are three assault rifles in the game that all have very different stats compared to the rest of the ARs, but, coincidentally, are very similar to each other.

These weapons are AK15, SCAR-H, and the FAL. This group shares very high damage values, slower firerate, super high recoil, and above average ballistics.

I think it'd be convenient to put these weapons in a unique category titled "Battle Rifles", which are weapons chambered to fire a full-power rifle cartridge. I'd also include the G3 since it's considered a battle rifle in our dimension.

These would be available to Assault and Engineer of course; they already have these weapons. I'd also throw in Support to spice up that class. I believe BRs would fit with them quite well.

EDIT:
Medic also has access to SCAR-H, AK15, and FAL, forgot to mention that. They do not have access to G3.

Thank you refract0r for catching this mistake.

What do you guys think? Feel free to discuss!

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cinder laurel
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W

stoic gust
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honestly a good idea

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since ar class is overflowing already

modern gale
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if we're narrowing down SMGs to three different categories then this change makes sense too

robust nest
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ties into this

misty onyx
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ak15 medic my beloved 😥

shrewd totem
# misty onyx ak15 medic my beloved 😥

Oh, I totally missed that. Didn't think about Medic, but I do think BRs ought to not be given to Medic. I would also like Engineer to lose some guns so it doesn't have everything.

If we ain't taking anything from Engineer, then we might as well give BRs to Medic. Better to have variety than not.

Good catch.

acoustic crescent
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I’ve always though these guns needed their own category. Allowing to narrow them down to just Assault and maybe Engineer would add to the identity of being an offensive threat

autumn shadow
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imo Assault and Support, leave engineer and medic out since they already have an identity and don't need to enroach on the other classes' at every opportunity. But 100% support. I would love to play it but the 4 whole options you get for guns aren't my cup of tea

cosmic rivet
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you talk about identity while you want to remove the only redeeming thing about support

autumn shadow
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me?

cosmic rivet
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no im talking to a wall

autumn shadow
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good, keep it that way

cosmic rivet
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why would you want fal, ak15 n such on support lmao

autumn shadow
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weapon options?

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something support lacks

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adding weapon options is not the same as removing features lmao what?

cosmic rivet
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add more weapons lol?

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dont give literally every class the same weapons

autumn shadow
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you seem to lack english reading ability

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i'd go back and reread the post and reflect on your opinions

cosmic rivet
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what are you even saying my guy

autumn shadow
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Remopve the 4 guns from Engi/Medic, add them to support, keep them on assault. its in plain english

cosmic rivet
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you want ak15, fal, g3 and scar-h on support

autumn shadow
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correct.

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and I don't want them on Engi/Medic

cosmic rivet
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you want to remove the only redeeming quality on support

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that it is unique from other classes

autumn shadow
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adding guns is not removing features

cosmic rivet
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and actually plays different

autumn shadow
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if you don't want them then ~dont use them~ dude lol?

cosmic rivet
cosmic rivet
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you want lmgs on medic now?

autumn shadow
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dude your entire argument has been "if support has gun options then we're removing features from support"

cosmic rivet
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because adding is good in your opinion

cosmic rivet
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adding weapons that are on other classes to support*

autumn shadow
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adding weapons with specific characteristics that make them different from the other guns. Battle Rifles play similarly to the support rifles already

cosmic rivet
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only support weapon that is similar to fal, ak15 ect is mg36

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not to mention support weapons would be highly overshadowed by them

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though that could change mind you

autumn shadow
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and the L86A3 is similar to the G3 and arguably the scar-h

cosmic rivet
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how is it similar

autumn shadow
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high damage values, slower firerate, super high recoil, and above average ballistics.

cosmic rivet
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you just listed that it isnt similar

autumn shadow
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I just listed they ARE similar

cosmic rivet
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you are thinking of the wrong guns

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lower dmg, high firerate

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g3 is the opposite

autumn shadow
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dude have you USED a g3? i don't think theres a slower firing gun that isn't single fire

cosmic rivet
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my brother in christ

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how is the g3 similar to the l86

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loading up the game rn holy hell

autumn shadow
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Ddue do you seriously lack the ability to read or do I need ot keep replying to myself so you can read

autumn shadow
cosmic rivet
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getting stats rn

autumn shadow
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Make sure you go in and fire the guns to. paper stats mean nothing in this game

cosmic rivet
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l86a1 has
31 dmg and 775 rpm

g3 has
37 dmg and 500 rpm

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very different my guy

autumn shadow
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yes correct, they don't make 10 copies of the same gun

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but charactaristics compared to the other guns

cosmic rivet
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you said they are similar

autumn shadow
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Similar does not mean the exact same dude what drugs are you on lmao

cosmic rivet
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g3 and scar h are similar

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acr and sg550 are similar

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m4 and ak74 are similar

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g3 is nothing like the l86a1

autumn shadow
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Dude your entire argument is invalid since you can't seem to stay on track with the suggestion of the post

cosmic rivet
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you changed the subject my guy

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i proved you wrong

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you can go back on topic now

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support shouldnt have battle rifles.

restive harbor
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this is like watching two special ed children fight

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and i really like it for some reason

autumn shadow
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If i were saying they were the same. I would be saying put G3 in the support weapons catagory. Instead, the suggestion is put them in battle rifles. which I suggested to put in the supports gun selection since they are functionally similar to support rifles

cosmic rivet
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anyways im out you keep baiting

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you had me

autumn shadow
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Is there part of that where I said "same" or "put them in the same category"?

restive harbor
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okay

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so looking at the gun

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its not the support model he talking about

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different variant

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so you are stupid sir

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but in fairness not a bad suggestion idea i have no issue with this

robust knot
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@cosmic rivet Did you just get mad that FAL was taken from medic?

cosmic rivet
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can you read what i was talking about

autumn shadow
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He's mad cause I said give the support more guns then said the G3 and L86A1 (I thought it was the A3, my b) were similar in function

cosmic rivet
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you want to remove supports class identity by removing the change in playstyle it has over other classes

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that is what i am questioning

autumn shadow
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Lol.

robust knot
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The class needs more options to pick from

autumn shadow
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but if you give more options

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you're taking away features you see

robust knot
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And you want to gate keep weapons because that would give support more variance

cosmic rivet
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first the attachment rework

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then inertia

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then fal on support

autumn shadow
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oh, guys just anti updates

cosmic rivet
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you do you

cosmic rivet
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indeed

restive harbor
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i forgot he made the inertia thread

cosmic rivet
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i care about this game

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but it is going downhill day by day

autumn shadow
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i think the majority of people would disagree with you

robust knot
cosmic rivet
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i have said it needs more guns

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but giving it guns that other classes already have isnt unique

robust knot
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More LMGs isn't more playstyles my guy

cosmic rivet
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its bland

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we already have that

robust knot
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More LMGs just means another M249 or an Ultimax

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Another LSW means another L86A1, M4 or MG36

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The class is in desperate need for variety

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And you want to gatekeep that, because "Different playstyles are possible"

autumn shadow
cosmic rivet
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class variety

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you are making support into assault

restive harbor
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support just gets a buff and its not enough for bro

cosmic rivet
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it was clearly not designed around that

autumn shadow
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Like, the G3 is in DMRs which I find... really weird?

robust knot
cosmic rivet
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and you want even less variety

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👍

robust knot
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More playstyles for support makes it more appealing

cosmic rivet
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support is the only class rn that is unique from others

robust knot
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Support is the only class with 4 guns

autumn shadow
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Unique in that no one plays it

robust knot
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^^

cosmic rivet
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insert medic meta here

autumn shadow
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cause theres 4 guns and with the exception of the M249 they basically play the same as other guns

restive harbor
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what would you want a new gun to be like

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just wanna hear him out

autumn shadow
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I do want to say the devs have already announced MANY new support guns. but that was a long time ago and we havn't seen them yet.

cosmic rivet
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and i would rather more guns over ones we already have

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like 7 of them where support only

autumn shadow
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Same, but the devs have shown they aren't exactly worried about getting support guns out in any acceptable timeframe

cosmic rivet
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another banger decision

autumn shadow
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which is why I think moving the 4 guns over as an option would be better than nothing

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At least they can't use "working on making them" as a reason to sandbag at that point

cosmic rivet
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so you want it as a temp thing

autumn shadow
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Sure, if it was temp until they put more guns in that would be valid

restive harbor
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what gun would you like to see added and with what kind of stats ?

azure sky
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Support needs support weapons

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not lazy moving of existing weapons

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more content

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not relabelling pls

stuck ridge
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It's been 5 months tho like give them something

azure sky
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some existing assets could be reused for this ?

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would also give the supports a non heavy weapon to use

shrewd totem
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Make sure not to go too off topic though, Support discussion has its own post.

This goes to everyone, dw not trynna pick on you Kata.