#New gun perhaps?

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charred hinge
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Here's a few guns I'd love to see in Battlebit:

  1. FG42
  2. STG44
  3. MG3KWS
  4. HCAR
  5. Stoner 96
  6. NTW-20
  7. Barrett M82A1
  8. XM250
  9. PKM
  10. ASh-12.7

Most of these are just hopeful, but the reason I'd love to see these added is because they'd give more variety and put some other possible vintage ones in there.

hidden raven
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otherwise what niches/roles would insert gun here do?

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also

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@charred hinge

charred hinge
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I see.

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As for the niches, for certain guns like the STG-44, could be an intermediate Assault Rifle for people that like to rush the point. Much like the other guns do.

hidden raven
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so the question of what would a STG, FG42 & co bring to the table (I would also ask which type of stoner)

hidden raven
charred hinge
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Yes.

hidden raven
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So how would it differ?

charred hinge
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I'd say it differs via damage profile.

hidden raven
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and what else?

charred hinge
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Recoil pattern could be different and more unique compared to other Assault Rifles

hidden raven
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So the game to my knowledge doesn't feature recoil patternts currently

charred hinge
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Currently, not at the moment, but theoretically, if added, could have a uniqueness to its recoil.

hidden raven
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true but than we raise the question of the other ARs

charred hinge
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Right.

hidden raven
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you see the headache with new ARs at this rate

charred hinge
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I see now.

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If I remember correctly--I'll have to look into it again--The FG42 was an LMG.

hidden raven
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LSWs/LMG wise the question would be how to make the FG42 & co differ from each other while still having a good niche or role they fulfill

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It was a paratrooper gun I do recall

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forgot the classification (FG42 is WW2, so classifications were more role based rather than caliber)

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could be classified similar to the BAR as a automatic rifle

charred hinge
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I will say that I do have an idea that could possibly be pitched for the NTW-20.

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Could probably be more suited as an equipment weapon to use as a deterrent for armoured vehicles.

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It was used as an anti-material rifle much like the M82A1.

hidden raven
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And against infantry?

charred hinge
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Against infantry, it could work, but movement speed would be severely punished with it.

hidden raven
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otherwise who would get access?

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so like MSR & M200 in terms of the MS downsides?

charred hinge
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For an idea, I feel like the NTW-20 as a balancing plan, could be used only if crouching or prone, but damage is high ie one-tap torso from most ranges.

hidden raven
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One tap unarmored,armored or?

charred hinge
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armored.

hidden raven
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otherwise velocity, anti vehicle damage & RoF?

charred hinge
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Rate of fire would be slowest out of any other sniper, velocity similar to SSG because it's such a large bullet, anti-vehicle damage could be something along the lines of 1 shot or 2 shot for light armoured vehicles and 4 or 5 shot for heavy armoured.

hidden raven
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So like what would be the bolt speed?

charred hinge
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Slow.

hidden raven
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otherwise what about helicopters? (Tail & main body)

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and how slow is slow?

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like a second?

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two?

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a half second?

charred hinge
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I'd say 1.25 to 1.75 seconds

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Something along that line

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Helicopters, main body could be 3 shot I'd say.

hidden raven
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otherwise which class(es) would get access to it?

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to clarify LB or BH?

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also Velocity?

charred hinge
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Classes that would get access to it would be a little tricky, but because its main purpose is anti vehicle, so the engineer class would probably be the best option.

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Velocities for the NTW would be similar to the SSG rifle.

hidden raven
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so 900m/s

charred hinge
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I'd go with 925m/s

hidden raven
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otherwise would the drop be greater or lesser?

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or equal?

charred hinge
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I'd say equal drop as a balancing tweak.

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For reference, the different calibers of the Denel NTW-20 are as follows and there are different variants:

NTW-20x110: 20x110mm Hispano
NTW-20: 20x82mm
NTW-14.5: 14.5x114mm

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Yes.

hidden raven
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otherwise suppose a question is scope access

charred hinge
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Scope access is a little tricky because it depends on the niche of usage.

flat ore
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the M82 would be interesting if it could quickly destroy structures and do more damage to vehicles

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and maybe, just maybe, knock holes out of breakable walls

hidden raven
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so Alex

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I have to ask

charred hinge
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Yeah?

hidden raven
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With the heavies & such

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How do you feel about 5 engineers using it to snipe them

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since engineer is a common pick

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otherwise would this be a gadget weapon like the rpg or a primary?

charred hinge
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I think to prevent that quick of a destruction, the time it takes to equip it would be better off having it related to being a gadget weapon.

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Having it as a primary would be quite quick for the heavy vehicle to be destroyed.

hidden raven
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otherwise magazine size, reload time & total ammo?

charred hinge
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Magazine size for the NTW-20 in real life is about 3 rounds for a standard mag and 5 rounds for an extended mag

hidden raven
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well keep in mind it is a gadget like the rpg

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it has no attachments

charred hinge
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True, true.

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I would put it at 3 just to be safe

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As for the reload time, I'd put it at 4.1 seconds

hidden raven
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for which reload?

charred hinge
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Default reload

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Fast reload would be about 3.8 seconds

hidden raven
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tac, tac drop, empty, empty drop?

charred hinge
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Alright, lemme list that

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Tac: 3.8
Tac Drop 3.4
Empty: 4.2
Empty Drop: 4

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There's a lot of possibilities of course.

weak panther
charred hinge
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I agree with that possibility for the STG

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FG42 fires an above average sized cartridge IRL compared to other Battle Rifles, but it tends to have small mags. The upside and also downside at the same time for it is the high cyclic rate

hidden raven
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And the timeout is over finally

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Must be prone or crouched to fire : possible side idea Bipod
Class: Engineer
Slot : Gadget

Damage : 170 (162 min)
RoF: 1.25 to 1.75 seconds
Velocity: 925m/s

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Anti Vehicle (Shots to kill)
Light: 1-2
Helicopter: 3
Heavy: 5

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Magazine:3
Tac: 3.8
Tac Drop 3.4
Empty: 4.2
Empty Drop: 4
Reserve ammo: 6 (total 9)

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Draw speed: ?
ADS:

hidden raven
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STG wise shot something a touch smaller than the FG42's

supple hazel
hidden raven
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Anyhow so far I would ask how would Recon's Snipers compete against this? @charred hinge

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also only stats that are left really are ADS & draw times

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also Alex I must give a compliment, you have done FAR better than most who I ask these questions do

charred hinge
charred hinge
bright gazelle
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I think oki is trying not to put many historical weapons in the game so fg42 and stg might not be coming.

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Also does anyone still have the old list of suggested weapons from old feedback

hidden raven
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on the list we got the sks at 1949 if I recall

bright gazelle
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We might get modernized versions if they exist. Sks modernized does exist although cursed as it is.

teal dove
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I just want a tac 50. something that really brings a punch but has rapid falloff as in very steep bulletdrop

gentle bramble
sinful sage
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5 months clearly isn't enough time to add them

hidden raven
gentle bramble
hidden raven
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but in general it tends towards neutral feeling