#reduced air strafe

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meager hound
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Yes entire suggestion is in title. Pls no more 360 in air

river orbit
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fervent raven
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quasi token
merry mauve
haughty drift
stray lynx
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So are we thinking more of a 270 or a 420?

meager hound
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?

river orbit
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Degrees

merry mauve
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360 is too high of an amount of degrees, make us able to go 720

river orbit
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It should be kinda changed from 360 to 180 since no one is doin 360s in this game

merry mauve
river orbit
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Huh

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There is a 360 VR no scope 💀

merry mauve
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no no no no

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The “First” VR 360 No Scope

merry mauve
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(not saying this is the biggest/only/most important reason for concern, just what i noticed from talking with people i know who play the game)

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those b my hyper-inflated and thus increasingly worthless $0.02

river orbit
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Air strafing as a movement option is perfectly fine as long as it's balanced properly

merry mauve
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personally i like it

river orbit
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It's fun I'll say that, but it's not really balanced in the grand scheme.

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I've abused it all the time to get out of a bad situation

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Especially when I play medic or aggressive recon

merry mauve
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aggressive recon isn’t real

river orbit
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It's extremely rare in this game, but I make it work

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Get a L96 short mag, angled, LS and you're set

merry mauve
river orbit
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Normally you see recons in the back of the map basically just being spawn beacons, but that's just boring to me

brittle flax
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1 minutes passed and already 30 message were sents

river orbit
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For what?

brittle flax
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just saying

merry mauve
frosty prawn
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instead of people turning on a dime people should be rolling around at the speed of sound BBcool

ember pond
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Counter argument:

Air strafe funny

merry mauve
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THATS WHAT IM SAYIN

fervent raven
ember pond
fervent raven
ember pond
fervent raven
merry mauve
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I reacted with emojis to rectify the situation business

whole cypress
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seems a interesting idea

fervent raven
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almost like my high quality wot copy pasta 👀

heady ingot
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no

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we already had no air strafe

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its something u can turn on in community servers

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it was dogshit

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so no one used it

whole cypress
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who said No air strafe Mango?

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only you is what I see

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The title is literally Reduced air strafe, not Remove

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not no air strafe either

heady ingot
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???

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tf does that have to do with anything

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the devs literally said on stream that there is an option for community servers

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and no one used it

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because people tried it

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and it was horrible

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unless the devs are gonna completly remake the system

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it will still be shitty

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and there are way better things to spend time on rather than "reduced air strafe"

whole cypress
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And 2. we don't know how it is on those community servers

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  1. Oki said on stream current is a bit much
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and 4. it could be a number change for all we know

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So current could be bad and needs some work

heady ingot
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it would probably need to be completly reworked

whole cypress
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But this sounds like a case of it needs tweaking at worse

heady ingot
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it was bad

whole cypress
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which won't take forever and a day

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we don't know if it WILL need a rework

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we just know it was "bad"

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So this could be various things

heady ingot
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im not completely dissing the idea of reduced air strafe but i would rather have the devs work on something actually important first

whole cypress
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plus again this is mainly numbers in the code changes

heady ingot
whole cypress
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Such as?

heady ingot
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hmmmmm

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idk

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maybe

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class balance?

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weapon balance?

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medic has been the only competively viable class since day 1

whole cypress
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So this goes with class balance I guess

heady ingot
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no? cause it would be applied equally for all classes

whole cypress
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aka a support is naturally worse than a medic or such at this

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AKA less speed

heady ingot
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bro not more movement debuffs for support wtf

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are you serious

whole cypress
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Who said debuff them more?

heady ingot
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you did

whole cypress
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I am saying the fact support is slower than medic

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So let me state this again mango, please listen

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So this goes with class balance I guess, also known as support is naturally worse at air strafting than a medic or such

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To sum the reason, It is slower

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But to the point back on topic

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This does not 1. Remove air strafe

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  1. it is quite possibly just number tweaks
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similar to weapon balancing

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  1. it does effect the power of classes differently as it stands
heady ingot
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its just bringing everyone down, not the class thats way above the others

whole cypress
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Mango

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this is one change among many I have suggested/liked

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I have had several to buff medic's team abilities among others for assault,support & recon

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and afew on engineer (summarized as buff frag)

heady ingot
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yep

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and those are all great

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probably idk i dont pay attention to everything u post

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but like

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how is movement changes class balance

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unless its literally making something like support faster or something

whole cypress
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you mean just air strafe in this case?

heady ingot
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yes

whole cypress
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and it effects them differently

heady ingot
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are you suggesting that every class would have a different ammount of air strafe then?

whole cypress
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No

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I am saying the same thing can be different in use cases based on class

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aka in TF2 with blast jumping, different classes benefit from it differently

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same idea

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same thing, same effect but different benefit

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AKA a engineer can blast jump & setup in a different place, which can be useful

heady ingot
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okay

whole cypress
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vs a soldier doing a dive bomb on a medic

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where he comes in fast & can wipe a medic in two hits rather getting damage rampup

heady ingot
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im not gonna argue cause its gonna lead it off topic of air strafe

whole cypress
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fair enough

heady ingot
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how would reduced air strafe work

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like

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u just cant turn as much??

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no ones really gone into detail

whole cypress
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Good question

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suppose we got options

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Suppose first idea is a rotation limit, another is a radius/diameter rotation limit

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but staring point is figure the rotation limit on a flat ground jump I suppose

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(I am unsure on offical terms to use for rotation, I am a land scaper in that regard)

heady ingot
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so if you reached the rotation limit you just wouldnt be able to move ur character anymore in that direction?? cause that sounds very clunky and annoying

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id rather just have inertia

whole cypress
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more a rotation limit per second

heady ingot
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ah ok

whole cypress
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the radius/diameter one uses a limit based on the radius & such you are attempting to pull

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aka the shorter the radius, the more resistance it gives type idea

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or diameter

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really unsure which to use for this

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but you get the idea

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effectively a turn radius that isn't a hard limit per say

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but a more gradual curve is easier

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so jumping around a building's corner is easier than a 360 on a dime

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be it again, these are adjustable

gaunt cairn
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If I’m understanding this, air strafe is like cs bhopping movements or surf right?

whole cypress
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numbers wise they are just rough ideas I am coming up with

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basic idea, it is sprint jumping in circles

gaunt cairn
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Cs has less strafe than bbr if I understand this

whole cypress
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CS has a slow down on jump ending

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so the suggestion of this thread is to reduce the rotation somehow on the air strafes

kind harbor
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yo another one of these posts let's go

cursive mesa
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Ahem

remote whale
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wait there's air straf?

cursive mesa
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They like to think so yes

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Idk why

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I just give into it bc I like instigation

remote whale
calm glade
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Only in 1.6 n source

whole cypress
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was thinking more modern cs when I hear CS

calm glade
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So yes then you don’t lose speed when you land

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Only in older games

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I believe

icy leaf
# merry mauve checkmate atheist

no 360 air strafe just means you can't move forward in a circle past a certain point, you can still spin in place as much as you want

icy leaf
floral sparrow
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remove this thread its already been talked about time and time again

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this is just spam at this point, and its cringe

merry mauve
whole cypress
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not really spam steverec

fervent raven
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one that hopefully clears stuff up lol

cursive mesa
slender needle
ember pond
valid crag
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one more inertia suggestion = skill issue ¯_(ツ)_/¯

remote whale
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hmm idk if this would be fun change my mind

whole cypress
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should be a interesting read no matter what

hexed crag
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Exists in community servers already
People didn’t like it so those servers don’t exist anymore
Useless suggestion

fervent raven
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reduced air strafing is far removed from no air strafing, nice misinfo spreading to "prove your point"

merry mauve
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I want to have sex with the numbers

hexed crag
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Last I recall you could edit it in the API

fervent raven
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every server that turned that option on had it at no air strafing, ofc people don't like that lmao

meager hound
hexed crag
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Now don’t @ me

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I have you blocked for a reason

meager hound
hexed crag
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On mobile so my hide blocked doesn’t work

meager hound
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Do you have updated discord

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Because I can hide your messages on mobile

whole cypress
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confusion on the blocking

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But as schlamm noted, servers had it on No air strafe where this strafe is precisely labeled Reduced air strafe

hexed crag
whole cypress
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otherwise it ain't inertia like those servers used, at least in the idea now

fervent raven
hexed crag
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That was how long ago tho? When the API just released

fervent raven
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when the big community server boom happened, doesn't change the fact tho that there never was a server with reduced air strafing, only no air strafing