Player Movement - Feedback

[uncut moth]

play the game more :) a lot of the "lean spam macro user" complaints quit the game an hour after buying it

[karmic notch]

You are

Imagine further penalty for that

Tho then your character should lean more out to the side as compensation

[modern yoke]

We have movement faster than bf4 (which is arcade). Since a new jumping system and double sprints are coming soon, I suggest reducing the default movement speed of all classes by 10 %

[wraith timber]

[river cedar]

Double sprint/tac sprint cant really be used in combat but based feedback anyways

[hard solar]

Can't be used when shooting someone, can 100% be used in combat

[wraith timber]

run straight long enough to die 6 times over as an exo support def usable in combat

[hard solar]

Thought you could still turn?

[river cedar]

nuh uh

Turning = Cancel tac sprint

[glacial drift]

I thought I heard hard turns break it

[zinc dove]

so standard, can shift a couple degrees but not a proper turn

[cerulean steppe]

so there making it where you run faster instead of just giving more vehicle spawns. that's just goofy

[wraith timber]

Shit he knows

[tame sedge]

spawn system dont work -> increase movement speed

[uncut moth]

lock new players to support so they survive being spawncamped

[lunar stream]

[grizzled kayak]

I think they should give support roller skates

[maiden raft]

comment with 1k likes on a youtube video about "what happened to battlebit"

I really think the game needs to slow down player movement a lot in order to get people to coordinate and communicate more

this seems like by far the common take and I completley agree

battlebit needs to be the middle ground between squad and battlefield, not battefield and cod

[wraith timber]

Game identity argument #39864

[wraith timber]

"Mantling was too fast" said no one ever

[dusty stump]

mantling was too fast

[smoky axle]

Mantling slow as shit

Glad its getting faster

[zinc dove]

mantling was pretty quick. clambering and climbing not so much

too bad mantling is only for things shorter than your knees.

[hard solar]

no one says mantling is too fast
Someone said it, 385 upvotes

discord be cursed yo

[zinc dove]

to be fair, that was only like one part of his comment

[maiden raft]

The comment has over 300 likes

and I agree with it, the movement in battlebit right now is way too fast, it's competing with every other arcade fps out there when it should be marketing itself as squad-lite with destruction which is an actual unserved niche

[maiden raft]

I think discord feedback has been the downfall of this game. When okidoki first started out it was way less arcadey and people like karmakut were hyped for it, but over time via discord feedback the game has got more and more arcadey even if the general public (as shown by these YouTube comments with hundreds and thousands of likes) recognize the game would be better served slowing it down and going a more milsim angle

I'm still waiting to buy the game when the promised milsim mode comes out

[dusty stump]

Well this is the feedback thread for player movement. Please try to keep stuff related to your desire for milsim mode in the feedback thread for milsim mode :)
https://discord.com/channels/303681520202285057/1159509815610048563

[wraith timber]

[orchid hawk]

doesnt even have the game and is trying to ruin it

[wraith timber]

The self report goes hard

[maiden raft]

Yes clearly im trying to ruin the game rather than forwarding feedback I'm seeing from the potential audience at large. 🙄
Who do you think Oki wants feedback from, the people who like the game as it is on this discord, or the thousands of people on YouTube comments and Reddit's who have said they want to like the game but there's specific easily changed aspects of the game that prevent them from wanting to play

Oki already has your money, I'm telling him what he can do to get mine and the 1k+ people who liked the comment saying the movement is to fast's money too

[orchid hawk]

don't care

[maiden raft]

https://youtu.be/tN99JVi7Luk?si=K8wtJw6StCitj-LG

Here's the video btw, see for yourself the comments

[wraith timber]

Game for everyone is a game for no one

You take said thousands of peoples ideas you piss everyone off truly a ground breaking idea

[wraith timber]

[maiden raft]

exactly my point

battlebit needs to fulfil a niche

right now its just generic arcade fps #524

[wraith timber]

yeah let's go your route it'll surely be better and won't alienate anyone while breaking any remaining trust and make said thousands happy because only their change was accepted

[maiden raft]

or we can cater to both and have the milsim mode oki promised since years ago

[lunar stream]

reddit feedback

[young lichen]

I used to regular this discord and try to provide feedback. The sheer amount of people borderline trolling these threads is the reason I am rarely here anymore. It's a shame because I want to like this game and was willing to be an active part of the community

[lunar stream]

but the trolling is the funny part

[calm thorn]

There is a reason they pivoted away from milsim: it had very little potential audience

[orchid hawk]

erm but what about the 50 year olds with bad jobs who can't afford a computer good enough for squad to play 3 hours a week

[torpid plover]

[stable mantle]

surely ur one of the 3 average players they had on the milsim version before it went down to be made into bbr right?

[rapid ginkgo]

Karmakut ewww

I need my milsim roblox game

[rapid ginkgo]

Copium vid fr

Go on squad or arma fr

[torpid plover]

go play tarkov

[tender dome]

[chilly jackal]

LOL

[lofty torrent]

Nerf dropshotting

[smoky axle]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[torpid plover]

easy fix: aim down

[sly rain]

Or just hipfire.

[lofty torrent]

maybe, but your mom does

[lunar stream]

woah there no need to be mad because you're bad

[lofty torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-trolled-trollge-troll-success-gif-22597471

[quick frost]

80k people came for a battlefield experience. Not a squad or HLL or whatever milsim one. Not sure where the hell people on reddit get this grand idea that everyone wanted “pure milsim” when casuals came for “roblox battlefield”, maybe the 40 something’s can take care of their daughter and child support (reference to a failed FGC streamer, some of you will know it) instead of trying to turn a BF clone/arguable competition at the time into the same shit that already floods the market. (and no, “but its for low end systems!” doesn’t count when oki said in a devcase he plans to up minimum requirements to run the game)

Look at BB legacy, statistically it failed. You can’t convince me people want that, because if they did, simply put: it would have done well.

[digital jetty]

People always want "milsim" "realism" "new skin" and that stuff, but once you add new INTERESTING game mechanic - they feel better than they get hardcore game.

Hardcore stuff creates TEAMPLAY (for players) and MONEY (for game studio), but reduces COUNT OF PLAYERS.
When you need more players - you have to focus on game design (not UI design) and social networks

If you add working bipod - you receive 5% more players, but once that bipod start to be unaccesible (unbalanced) - you lose 3% of players

[smoky axle]

Fuck does this have to do with movement?

[digital jetty]

This is the principle, not suggestion

[torpid plover]

erm... that is not related to player movement

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[quick frost]

Thank you for missing the point entirely, ignoring statistics on top of this, and ultimately bringing nothing of value to the movement discussion. Very cool HLL refugee moment indeed

[quiet valve]

Fluid gameplay

[digital jetty]

@quick frost sweet rules, follow rules, believe rules, honor rules... and Elon Musk wins. Because he never follow them. To create "rules" you have to extract "reasons" first.

[lunar stream]

what does that have to do with anything dude?
you went massively off topic inb4 and got called out for it
this is the player movement thread not ideology discussion channel

[smoky axle]

Is gzhegow having a stroke

[digital jetty]

people most of the times moving upside, moving sideways is a reduced point of view, little bit

[smoky axle]

Sir please speak english this shit dont make a lick of sense nor has anything to do with the topic

[digital jetty]

Sir please call me "your majesty" if you cant even copy-paste my words to browser window

[smoky axle]

No

[quick frost]

Non-role in suggestions/feedback moment

[sand swan]

Ya'll are still going at it, huh?

[dusty stump]

youre literally the only other person to post in here all year

[sand swan]

I didn't know there were 3 days in a year. :)

[dusty stump]

there currently are only three in this one

well, depends on your culture i suppose

[torpid plover]

i forgot this feedback exists

[uncut moth]

i forgot you exist

[torpid plover]

same

[full nova]

I think a stamina system should be implemented into the game so people aren't able to run and gun like they are. Going prone should be quick, but aiming while going prone should take a penalty. Additionally getting up from going prone should be slow, not as fast as it is now.

[orchid hawk]

i think they should ban you for moving more than 5 meters per minute its only fair

[zinc dove]

at best, the being able to not lose speed while changing direction. unlimited stamina has never been a problem, hell its why more and more games are moving away from it(at least fps)

[full nova]

If I'm playing the game, it's to shoot at people, not Speedy Gonzalez's American cousin, Sweaty.

[orchid hawk]

agreed i want to only be clicking people that are acting like desktop icons it's our time to shine brother

[full nova]

I mean I don't mind if they run, but not when they're practically zipping from one place to another to get more kills.

[orchid hawk]

my brain runs 3 seconds in the past so i think nobody should be allowed to move at all personally

[zinc dove]

you must not have played cod in recent years, or battlefield in the last 15.

[full nova]

No, I played BF1.

[zinc dove]

they why is unlimited stamina your talking point

[full nova]

Otherwise, I don't touch FPSs.

[zinc dove]

BF has had unlimited stamina since 2.

maybe longer.

[full nova]

Because you could run out of stamina in BF1 after doing a charge. There's no reason these guys have to practically teleport. It's too fast and for them to do it all the time is ridiculous. BF1s charge system was better, but it wasn't this lightning fast zip speed.

[orchid hawk]

it's literally not humanly possible to track them im pretty sure

[zinc dove]

not really, or at least its super difficult due to how the brain works. there's no predictability in the movement in those cases. so most of the time spray and pray is kinda the only answer, made worse by them not losing speed despite constant changes of directions.

[zinc dove]

so its the speed you are worried about, not stamina. cause BF1 has no stamina system besides a cooldown on charges.

[full nova]

Speed is part of it, also with the quick prone spam. If you go down fast, there should be a slight delay to get up.

Nearly every gunfight I've been in where we were face to face, other guy went prone and I got merked.

[zinc dove]

that in the game already. it takes about .35-.4 seconds to stand up and begin sprinting. I think light kits may have it at .25 but I'm unsure if there is a difference or if it just seems that wya due to top speed differences.

[zinc dove]

you gun is accurate while in hipfire. don't bother aiming at that distance and you should be fine.

[orchid hawk]

honestly its just sickening me & @void fulcrum will be sitting there watching a wall listening to fortunate son and some sweat will always adhd prone dance on top of us

[full nova]

I don't aim at distance. I love the G3 though.

[zinc dove]

what?

[full nova]

The G3 comment was extraneous.

Also, I'm going to take a nap. Don't be offended if I don't reply to you in 15 mins.

[quick frost]

Idk guys, reddit says we need stamina I think its a good idea

Clearly reddit is always correct, that’s why every strategy that the good players use should be nerfed into the ground. Btw we also need sbmm, I cant handle the fact that players are better than me

[orchid hawk]

if im playing the game its to sit on objectives & avoid combat as much as i can

[zinc dove]

SBMM wasn't bad when it was just your skill level. then they added all the algorithms to make you have a completely predicted W/L and K/D ratios

[quick frost]

Objectives? What are those? I sit in the safezone with my lmg thinking I cant get caught out of position, only to get tagged up by a better player

[quick frost]

You are 100% correct, the server browser needs to have sbmm! I cant handle it when these gosh darn SWEATS have free rain to join whatever server they want and ruin my experience

[orchid hawk]

me chortling to myself as i mouse 1 the movement sweat from inside my safe zone with a tank

[zinc dove]

you seem to have missed my point.

[quick frost]

Its easier to shitpost away dumb points that we’ve talked to death in the past than it is to repeat the same talking points that people will clearly ignore anyways

[zinc dove]

...did you even read or did you stop at word 3?

[orchid hawk]

me patting myself on the back after blowing up said scourge while continuing to sit in spawn in a tank

just an honest days work saving the game for a goat like me

[zinc dove]

if tanks didn't die faster than players did as soon as people get close lol

I have yet to see tanks be useful since launch, back when people ran from armor, not chased it down on foot

[orchid hawk]

fr they should give tanks uranium armor from the moon also nuke bullets

[quick frost]

Stamina isn’t needed

Drop shot/stance speeds are getting nerfed

“Run and gun” is the whole point of SMGs, they have to close the distance to be best effective

Same talking points brought up months ago but support andys can’t accept the fact that they’re in a bad position/got flanked and thats usually why they died

And im not shocked its a HLL refugee complaining that players are outplaying his turtling, likely because he hasn’t taken the time to learn how to be effective at defensive play

This is beating a dead horse and the complaints mentioned were addressed in a devcast or discussed in detail in the past. Go read a suggestion thread on stamina, same talking points.

Also SBMM can not exist in a “practical” sense whilst a server browser system also does unless you want to force everyone into officials by default when first booting up (bad idea), it defeats the whole point of having a server browser to begin with.

[orchid hawk]

just make people weaker the better they are

nobody is allowed to get more than 20 kills

[past heron]

nah bad ideas...

[full nova]

What's SBMM?

That's not an acronym I'm familiar with.

[zinc dove]

Skill based matchmaking. the predecessor to the algorithms we have now.

[torpid plover]

imagine adding stamina in this game lol

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-gif-400062707846796155

[full nova]

Oh. That makes sense. Thank you.

[full nova]

I didn't have an embed failure.

You confuse me.

[past heron]

You did I saw it!

[full nova]

No I didn't. I don't usually do gifs on servers that I don't know that well.

[torpid plover]

yes, you did

[full nova]

Tag the message that I did

[full nova]

If I did, you should be able to ping me when you reply to it.

[smoky axle]

Bigger problem is that prone to sprint animation is completely fucked among other things

[lunar stream]

oh hey another redditor made it here

[smoky axle]

And like pepega said already, we are beating a dead horse here

Like, the horse is a skeleton now from how dead it is

[lunar stream]

dawg it's pulverized

[past heron]

Horse is so dead the devs are trying to update it

[wooden rune]

Oki not trying you update it

Oki ride away with the money on the horse

[smoky axle]

Legit dust

[digital jetty]

Reduce movement speed by 25%. The current high movement speed compensates for the low TTK (time-to-kill), and these two mechanics currently balance each other out. Slowing down movement would enhance the overall combat experience (control escapes and danger points its about combat, running like a chicken - is about "we're game of the year" stuff).

Add stamina for sprinting. Shooting in the game focuses on timing rather than spraying bullets while following the target with the mouse. Adding stamina would encourage more tactical movement and reduce reliance on bullet spamming. Person that cannot move fast - is a good target, so he is trying to take safe position, and it makes game tactical shooter, instead of click-run-die-click game

Introduce rolling while prone. Instant drops are a great feature, but adding the ability to roll left or right while prone would deepen tactical gameplay and provide more options for evasion. (I know that IRL you have backpack, so rolling is impossible, but Arma experience shows that rolling work good on long distances)

Single lateral dodge jump while sprinting. This would give players a chance to survive if they’re fired at while running. It emphasizes skill over prone meta and reduces reliance on constantly dropping to the ground. (Currently - people start to jump cipher "8" that looks OP but breaks combat feeling)

Backward jump. This popular mechanic in other games allows players to quickly peek into dangerous areas and immediately retreat to safety. It’s a skill-based feature that adds depth to gameplay without relying on tools like mirrors or cameras, which might slow down the action.

Adjustable stance height. Currently, the game only supports standing and crouching, which forces players to exploit mechanics like building slanted walls to peek slightly above or below cover. Adding adjustable stance heights (e.g., 5–6 intermediate levels between standing and crouching) would eliminate the need for such workarounds and make positioning more dynamic and tactical.

Increase the delay for shooting during parkour. The current parkour animation is longer than the shooting restriction, allowing enemies to fire while vaulting, which creates a significant imbalance—especially with latency issues. Extending the delay would improve fairness in these scenarios.

Thank you for considering these suggestions! I hope they help in further refining the game.

[void fulcrum]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850854740408401954/1128953149747630090/ezgif.com-gif-maker2.gif

[lunar stream]

no one is reading that shit

[smoky axle]

I read that shit
Mf wants max payne ahh movement basically (with a tinge of RE6)

For a more recent reference, he wants BO6 omnimovement bs

besides bro doesnt know about the upcoming movement changes

[quick frost]

All imma say is bait used to be believable

No shot that isn’t a troll attempt

[lunar stream]

omnimovement from bo6 💀 when out of action (a significantly better indie title) has been in development for a while and is now in an ea sort of phase lmao
i swear that shit is too funny, cod devs have no creativity

[uncut moth]

stance thread reminds of tarkov

[smoky axle]

Its not that the devs dont have creativity its that fucking activision doesnt let them do shit

[lunar stream]

well fair

in the end what it boils down to is indie games have original ideas and aaa companies copy them in a bad way lol

[smoky axle]

Omnimovement was practically already a thing back in like 2001 when the original max payne released

Only now did cod get their hands on it

[digital jetty]

Creativity without balance creates the hell. Balance usually means damage but correct is to understand it like "features have to create posibilities to change predictable result"

Omni or not omni, running nonstop is a good feature to reach target location fastest, but shoot down teamplay and used as bullet evasion, thats why i suggest change, not because i want to change something

[smoky axle]

Its legit depressing how i often hear stories from former devs in big companies and how poorly they are treated at times

[lunar stream]

yeah

[smoky axle]

Or how ideas are straight up rejected cause the fat corpo on a pile of cash doesnt want to risk big making a big change

[quick frost]

Welcome to triple A game companies

[digital jetty]

Combat hell makes game hateful and aggresive, instead slow but teamplay dependent creates friendship inside community, people share experience between each other

Hatefulness and agressivity is a good platform to ingame trading and moneymaking

[quick frost]

Yeah go tell that to HLL players who always complain about being TKed or “bad teammates”

This isn’t a good faithed argument its just the same talking point said a different way

[digital jetty]

Thats why aaa does that

[quick frost]

“We need to be like triple A, like HLL, like legacy bbr, like squad”

“No, ignore the numbers of legacy BBR, trust me it will work this time”

There’s a huge difference between what worked and what didnt. Stick to what works instead of being an inferior product in an oversaturated market

[digital jetty]

I played natural selection 1 on half life 1 engine, that was extra deep game. And then released ns2, more beaty, more features, but faster gameplay. Ns1 was a mammoth, ns2 was a killing meteor

Same with helldivers 1 and 2

Same with battlefield 4 and 2042

Same story, same same same

[uncut moth]

slower gameplay when bbr player brains are slow already? that'll create more issues like "why cant i walk anywhere"
"thats what vehicles are for"

all vehicles were shot to shit in first 5 min of conq

[digital jetty]

Once game become faster and easier community is filled up with trololos and the projects marked rip

[quick frost]

BF4/Dice styled BF is what people wanted. Movement is fine.

Only ones saying we should be like HLL/squad/whatever are the ones that clearly don’t listen to statistics and are mad their companies ruined their respective games

That’s why oki is going full arcade and really only “fixing” the jank shit. There’s stuff I don’t agree with (buffing support is one of those things) but its clear where the audience is and where the game should go.

[digital jetty]

Yep, bf4 movement corelates with recoil and spread, and totally it seems awesome. In 2042 same looks different, faster movement, tonns of features, herd of players in each point, it looks progressive but brainless

Same game plays as run-die shooter

[quick frost]

“Run die” isn’t an issue? It’s a casual game at the end of the day

[uncut moth]

it's even funnier because the early life of the game was hundreds of lemmings doing "run die" on purpose for the voip

[quick frost]

If people enjoy that shit let them, if they’re running into death by that logic killing them shouldn’t be an issue

[digital jetty]

Sorry just my casuality is arma squad style gaming

[smoky axle]

To be fair support could both be buffed and nerfed since we have no idea just how they will balance shit

[quick frost]

Exactly

[digital jetty]

Being together instead of turn music 150%

[quick frost]

Sounds like a you problem so… go back to arma then?

[smoky axle]

Especially given armor is being changed

[quick frost]

I highly doubt they just nerf support tbh

[uncut moth]

all the tools for teamwork are there in battlebit, game just doesnt show it and players are not inclined to do it. it's a you issue, not game issue, because contrary to what you feel teamwork is op in battlebit and a squad of 8 human beings swings lobby every game

[digital jetty]

Of course its my own problem, but old school games become legends, and today games finished in trash by your mentioned statistics

[smoky axle]

Depends on gamemode
For the most part it isnt that bad, but for modes where teamworks is much more beneficial its mad iffy

Besides teamwork just dont hit the same as in bf4 for example

[digital jetty]

People actually rarely want to shoot out their agression, and often want to be valuable by community

[smoky axle]

In bf4 teamworks feels actually good in comparison to bbr

[digital jetty]

Agressive maybe once or twice the point of

[uncut moth]

are we suggesting to have logistics and ROE in battlebit

[quick frost]

Nonsensical argument

“I dont like this game and if it doesn’t conform to what I WANT that’s similar to X game its trash”

[smoky axle]

for the record when i say teamwork, i dont mean doing shit with a bunch of mates in a vc, i mean the most basic teamwork

[digital jetty]

But AAA games made agresdive NOT because its wanted by their players, its because that way changes brain to participate in additional buy flow

[quick frost]

?????

[uncut moth]

how does gameplay tactic aggression incentivize purchasing cosmetics

[quick frost]

Just go play that game then???

[uncut moth]

can we nuke this guy

[quick frost]

Like I don’t play a mario game just to expect to shoot fire flowers out of trenches in a ww1 setting because I played ww1 games in the past. I’d just play a ww1 game

[digital jetty]

They dont ask anybody about game perfection, they create game and then read most popular topics to fix common issues. Nobody follows a plan, its just reaction to continue secondary buy flow

[uncut moth]

wtf is buy flow

if you want arma with 254 players just install mods

[digital jetty]

Answering you, agression makes people different. People want to dominate. Most bought portrait in battlefield is a prophet, skeleton

"You have to fear this guy, i own you, see?"

[uncut moth]

my profile picture is a cat and i dominate every lobby

[digital jetty]

"Let them all see my perfection"

[uncut moth]

almost every dominating player in bbr has a stupid cat image or other non threatening picture

[uncut moth]

let them all see this cat

[quick frost]

Man this inertia thread styled shit never really left has it?

[digital jetty]

Yes, as i sad, i played natural selection in my childhood, and can you imagine that trolling in our community was an accident

[uncut moth]

what kind of trolling

[digital jetty]

People wrote articles, want to cooperate in teams, people searching team for afternoon party

Today all the games is filked up with dominators

[uncut moth]

are you just complaining about skill gap

[quick frost]

Its funny you mention this because when the same like minded people banded together to play in a team, in a way you could argue you might have wanted, reddit complained and demanded people be banned

[uncut moth]

gromping

[digital jetty]

Nobody wants to see your dominating over himself, but feelings from good teamplay is always warm, anybody can remember

[quick frost]

Gromp wasnt the only incident but yes one of them

[uncut moth]

4rae
if you mean 3iq they just suck at ptfo

[quick frost]

Cat stacks of modern era, gromp, flyace, 3iq sometimes, taw, UWS, 4rae, Avalon,

I could go on but you get the point.

[uncut moth]

i was there too bro

[digital jetty]

Guess so

[quick frost]

Point is damned if you do it damned if you dont, people complain regardless

[torpid plover]

i'm not reading that

[uncut moth]

ok

[torpid plover]

ok?

ok

[blazing hemlock]

Except the gromp incident refers to a very specific thing

where we perhaps took advantage of fast respawns for xp and forced oki to change them (oopsie)

but that's just a perhaps

[quick frost]

“Cant post links” not even posting a link maaaan

[blazing hemlock]

gg

[quick frost]

But yeah good old days before no fun allowed

[blazing hemlock]

avalon is a crazy pull though, he who shall not be named was cooking something for sure

[quick frost]

Point is reddit hates stacks and people using stuff they’re good with, more kneejerk changes incoming in update™️

[blazing hemlock]

absolutely

every reddit thread saying there were hackers every other game was just because of good players

i saw 3 real cheaters in my entire time playing this game

rest of the time they'd just call cateat or ethereal or gromp cheaters

[quick frost]

I saw more but tbf it was mostly speed hackers that got EACed 1 hour later

Not so much aim/vision assistance

[blazing hemlock]

I remember clowning one guy in a clan that he should use hacks because he was trash

and he downloaded speed hacks 30 mins later and got banned 😭

[quick frost]

[blazing hemlock]

but alas

game is truly dead now, no point, 400 lows

[quick frost]

Imma be real we’re lucky if we csn even get a full non-conq loop lobby in March with no update ETA

[blazing hemlock]

We used to call october 2023 the dark ages

because player average was 10k and it bounced back to 20k in november with an update

well ain't this the real dark ages

[quick frost]

Went from dark age to dead age

[blazing hemlock]

Can't believe they saw the 2023 christmas numbers (12k october to 40k peak december) and decided "Let's not at least do a christmas update in 2024" Fantastic management

Sealed the game's fate in my opinion, nothing for 1 year anniversary, nothing for christmas, no update for 1 year, no matter how big their super update is, won't matter when 5k players max will get on

[smoky axle]

Ngl devs really crippled themselves when they changed the backend of the game

One of the possible reasons they didnt do at least a small patch is cause they changed the backend so much going back to it do a bug fix would also mean rewriting a lot of shit AND making it work smoothly for the next update

Not to mention expanding the updoot too much

[daring bloom]

@maiden raft

Can you send a friend request real quick

And DM me

[maiden raft]

No? Why...

[daring bloom]

Important question

[maiden raft]

Who are you even

[maiden raft]

What possible important question could a random stranger on discord have for me

[daring bloom]

Is your name Nikita by chance?

[maiden raft]

It is not

[daring bloom]

Aaaawww

Wrong person then

[maiden raft]

Lol no worries

[torpid citrus]

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[young lichen]

Just popping in to say I hope you guys are reconsidering mobility/momentum in movement with the rebalance. Specifically how fast players are and how quickly they can change direction. This is one of the main reasons I left the game about a year and a half ago, and every time I load the game up to see if anything's changed, it feels more-or-less the same and I end up having the same issues with it. If some decent balance changes towards this (and just in general) happen, I'd really consider playing again.

[smoky axle]

180° turns, zig zags and dropshotting has been greatly nerfed, however vaulting is much faster, there is a slight speed boost when jumping from ledges and tac sprint is being added (only activates if you run X seconds in a straight line, and goes away after changing direction)

[young lichen]

Is this now, or the upcoming rework/rebalancing? regardless, those sound like good changes.

Vaulting was fairly long, but players felt WAY too capable of sharp turns and zigzags without losing speed.
A faster "tac sprint" is nice too, I remember there being a lot of downtime when there was a long distance to travel without vehicles.

[smoky axle]

Right sometimes i forget that people are not in the loop lol

But yeah, the changes i have mentioned have been impletented in the overhaul is what i meant

!update you can read up on other changes here if you are curious

[raven mulch]

So.. You want info about the update, huh?

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[young lichen]

Thanks for the info. The last time I played was beginning of 2024, with my last message in mid 2024 ||basically just saying that many people in the feedback channels were trolling and shutting down genuine feedback, if that tells you anything...|| so I'm definitely out of the loop. I feel like the game has a lot of potential, but I'm not really interested in playing another arcade shooter that feels the same as so many other shooters. so trying to poke in and at least see where the 'feel' of the game is heading and how the community here on discord is now

And thanks for the response in general @smoky axle, been a while since I've even considered talking in here

[smoky axle]

👍

[azure burrow]

I think player movement was a HUGE end game thing for the previous game, and the muscle memory, enjoyment of the game came from that. If we're moving to an arcade-ISH feel. Why not capitalize? I'd say make a baby out of the previous game's movement and the current out of this one.

Something that allows for very articulated movement, and timing.. but something that isn't dictated heavily by ping or too much of frame by frame advantage.

It's hella annoying getting killed by someone who will drop crouch, spin and get behind you. By all means, but maybe there could be a way to have a little bit of a less annoying version of it. That's all.

[hard solar]

Whats bad about it?

[smoky axle]

Ok out of all shit things in OP overhaul, movement wasnt one of it

Seemed fine

[smoky axle]

Some things needed tuning but it seemed fine overall

I cannot complain much

[hard solar]

I like not being able to prone and rapid spin, if your ass is on the ground then you're laying there

[azure burrow]

realistically you can switch to being on ur back

maybe this game needs more movement animations to makeup for positioning

in this case it'd prob take a bit more time than previously, but that'd be dope to have more ways to position yourself to get an advantage in a situation

[quick frost]

Yeah. Only things that got “nerfed” were what the community considered jank and proning in a corner with no awareness

Which im fine with this tbh

Also we really calling crouching during a gun fight “drop crouching” now? Bit of a reach wouldn’t you agree?

Fuck it, im coining a new term. Drop tbagging.

“He mashed the crouch button on me instead of reviving me report report! Fucking drop tbagger!”

For the one guy that takes this to heart im clearly joking, I just wanted to poke fun at how nonsensical the whole drop-whatever thing is becoming now that drop shotting is nerfed

[hard solar]

if you cant deal with someone crouching in a gunfight that may be a skill issue

[uncut moth]

i think the move ment in this game is too hard . but the shot gun can fix that because it will kill and it have a big spread so you can hit the fast player

@quick frost Can you fix that soon

[quick frost]

Im not oki

[torpid plover]

@quick frost yo fix that plz