Prestige - Feedback

[slow linden]

Please keep it on topic, and civil, we want serious feedback

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[lusty epoch]

losing access to the higher rank weapons for a bit is fine; it incentivizes you to switch things up and use lower rank weapons, which is a really nice change of pace
but permanently losing your attachments and kill counts just feels really, really bad. losing progress in a game never feels good. it's the same feeling you get when you crash your game and lose your savefile and have to start over, it's an awful vibe and it should never be intentional game design
it especially feels awful when it's on something like the pickaxe, sledgehammer, or M9; joke weapons where you really have to work for your kills

[hushed dagger]

do kills for a specific weapon reset when you prestige?

because the camo unlocks requires an absurd amount of kill grind and if it does resets, then it needs changing

[atomic widget]

yep

[hushed dagger]

Well, that's the easiest out of the way.

Just don't reset kills when prestiging

The grind is already absurd, we don't need it to be even more so

especially when you can prestige god knows how many times

[kind dune]

Please keep kill stats between prestiges.

take the G36C. Lets say I have 846 kills when I presitge. It would keep that for the prestige but I would have to start from the beginning again. It would instead of saying:
5 kills for reflex sight, say "851 kills for reflex sight" etc
So for camos it would be "50 kills for X camo" would instead be "896 kills for X camo".

Also, what if you could get like 1 token for each loadout category where you could unlock one weapon or gadget per?

[hushed dagger]

Like CoD? Would be a pretty welcome addition.

[spring prawn]

Let kills persist so that you can work on the next batch of camos following prestige and allow a system like CoD had where you can choose a weapon to keep post prestiege.

Honestly, with as many weapon choices we'll have I think keeping a weapon and all camo progression per prestige is just the thing that needs to be done if you want this system to stay rewarding long term

[lethal swift]

I dislike loosing attatchments/weapons and stats. I would prefer prestige to only be a bragging rights thing that gives cosmetics unlocks, maybe HUD unlocks later down the line, etc. I don't want to see my progress in a game reset like that.

[tepid fjord]

Wait do you actually lose all of your weapons, attachments, and camos when you prestige?

[subtle karma]

ye

[tepid fjord]

Cringe

[hushed dagger]

Well the point of this thread is to give suggestions on how it could be better implemented

it seems like the common consensus here is to keep kill counts for all weapons and to select one weapon of choice to keep when prestiging

[tepid fjord]

Should not reset weapon unlocks the grind is already absurd

[hushed dagger]

so all we need to do is just unlock the weapon?

[tepid fjord]

Weapons, attachments, and kill stats

[hushed dagger]

wait, keep the weapons aswell?

all of it or just one?

[kind dune]

I think having to unlock all weapons over again is fair. Attachements too.
You can select 1 main weapon, 1 side arm, one main gadget, 1 secondary gadget, to start with unlocked (attachements locked again).

[tepid fjord]

I just dont think many players are willing to go through that weapon grind again, especially the more casual player base

[soft grotto]

give me more shit to wear on my character when i prestige

[light badger]

My Feedback :

1. I have no issue with prestiging. I enjoyed MW3 prestige mechanic in which when you prestiged you were granted a prestige token you could use to purchase whatever gun/skill/etc you wanted too. Would love to be able to roll over a new weapon when I prestige.
2. I have no problems with regrinding out attachments on guns as that is what progresses your character and makes you better.
3. I can understand why people don't want to lose stats on weapons and lose out on their camos. Maybe find another way to implement camos that can be saved and camos that cannot?
4. Having the prestige system allows people the fresh start feel but being able to carry over knowledge and knowledge is worth a lot.

[wet forum]

Losing attachments/kill count is not worth it. Unless the requirements are reduced by a lot after prestige (-50/70% less kills required to unlock all attachments again? Bonus XP ?)

[torpid crater]

Don’t care about attachments or gun unlocks after prestiging. Just want camos to carry over

[paper solstice]

I think you should get to pick one gun to permanently unlock with all its attachments every prestige. So the first prestige you keep one gun and the next you pick a new one so you have two unlocked from the start etc. Maybe this unlocks some special cosmetics for the gun separate from the prestige camos (maybe along the lines of the supporter pack where it's a new model).

[grave kiln]

im a strong fan of how cod did it with the cool token thing that allowed you to spend it on whatever

[granite anchor]

One thing I think would be great for prestige is perma unlocking a single weapon or armor of your choice everytime you prestige.

With the new progression system, this would be extremely nice. This would let you unlock skins and then keep them unlocked (attachments would need to be re unlocked).

I would also like to keep my gun stats, for example, I have over 10k kills on p90, but it shows as 0 after prestige. Being able to see my totals with each gun and current kills for current prestige would be great.

Would also allow for silver, gold skins on high number of kills per gun, similar to the old school cods when they were still cool.

I would say 10k kills on a gun(total, over all prestiges) would give you the pure golden gun, 1k for silver. That shit should be metallic and glow and be bright.

[lethal swift]

my main problem with only getting to unlock one thing is there are so many guns and only 10 prestige's, it's kind of a moot point.

[granite anchor]

So? Even so, it'd be a really welcome addition until you hit max prestige, wouldn't it? I'd love to unlock scorpion so I can use it more, it's only avail for 50 levels atm and with the new progression that goes by pretty quick. Or unlock the deagle so I always have my fav pistol ready instead of using a sidearm I don't like until lvl 100

[lethal swift]

It's better than what we have now but I'd just prefer prestige not reset weapons or attatchments

[granite anchor]

I disagree, it's refreshing that it does.

LikeI said in my original response, I just wish to see my stat totals over all prestiges for weapons; how it works otherwise is ok

[lethal swift]

Grind is not refreshing

if you want to play a different weapon you should be able to do that

you don't need the game to force you to do that by restricting your options, that ought to be your own choice

[soft grotto]

thatd be so boring

weapon reset and grinding for ur attachments is the fun part

finally getting back to ur fav attachment

super nice

[lethal swift]

This is not an RPG or MMORPG lol

It should not use RPG mechanics

This also isnt' a looter shooter

What you seem to want in a game is one of those two things, and this game is not one of them

And I mean that's fine, they have their own place

but that's not what this is

[gaunt kestrel]

the grind for attachments is really not that bad. what hurts is the reset towards skin progress.

by having skin progress reset, i do not want to prestige. if i don't prestige, i'm wasting potential xp by playing. wasted xp is demotivating and disincentivizes playing the game

[lethal swift]

I can't speak for the ARs but on sniper rifles the grind for attatchments is a bit annoying tbh

[hard onyx]

Yeah just not resetting stats would be all the incentive I need to prestige since I don’t want my stats I’ve been building to just disappear.
Then having one token for permanent unlock would be nice as others have said but I think it needs to happen.

[molten jungle]

Your main stats like KD, SPM, KPM, WL, and like total kills and points on each class don't reset, just specific kills per weapon and whatnot

[atomic widget]

Hmm. I think it would be sensible for those stats to reset, as it gives you a better chance to get better stats than before by discounting the data from when you were less skilled

[molten jungle]

While I get that sentiment I think a better way to achieve that would be to have a like last 50 games stats and an overall stats, that way you could see improvements in scoring and kills while still having funny large numbers to look at

(I like seeing 10s of millions of points on different classes)

Could also be less than 50 games, maybe 20 or something

[atomic widget]

That would also be good

[keen sphinx]

I feel like winning is not rewarded at all. I have W/L of 1.6 and sometimes that measn defend a point where not many enemies attack. I have now 110 hours playtime and 9.986 mio XP level 154. It takes too much time to prestige, I don'T wanna lose my weapons and my pre level 135 before the XP update makes it that I "wasted" lots of XP to the old unrewarding system.
I will not prestige, even when mmy community has no clan and I don't wanna lose my weapon stats.

I heal/revive people a lot and play for the win and that is not compensated enough. If I watch some random twitch streamer playing battlebit, they usually rush in with Kriss Victor and make 2-3 kills and die instantly. If prestige is showing something, it is showing playstyle I think is not worth my time. Look at the W/L rate of people who prestiged and please give that information. I think it should be way more important.

[hushed river]

At the very least, prestige shouldn't reset kill counts for weapons. I don't think you should lose camos either. As it is right now, I don't really want to prestige, yet I have to to make a clan

[haughty willow]

If prestige would just reset your level so you have to unlock all weapons again and have additional unlocks for skins, I would consider do prestige. However current implementation where you loose all your stats and attachments sounds more painful grind and I already have War Thunder for that.

[granite anchor]

resetting is ok, but it should keep totals, so you can see, for example, your prestige 0 kills, prestige 1 kills, current prestige kills, total kills with weapon

[vestal zinc]

I don't mind having to re-unlock attachments and weapons, but losing the kill count on a weapon seems odd to me, which has been make me hesitant to play a bit as I'm almost at prestige, and I'm worried that I'll lose all of that, and that maybe it will change to be better soon. Although, if I hear that prestige will remain as it is, I guess it sucks but it is what it is

[keen sphinx]

lets wait if it will stay as it is. I will stay at level 200 until they change the incentives.

[eternal stream]

Unlocked prestige weapon camos need to carry over - otherwise grinding them is completely pointless if I lose them each time I prestige....

[lethal swift]

when you prestige you should be able to unlock previous prestige skins when getting kills

[molten jungle]

you can, if you are prestige three you will earn normal, prestige 1, prestige 2, and prestige 3 camos all at the same time while using a weapon

[novel socket]

make black camo unlock at prestige instead of level 200 so u get to use it for more than 1 level before prestiging

[nocturne rover]

Got every gun max and was abt 2 prestige but realized I'll lose the progress on all of the guns N o. The grind alone for camos is insane which I don't mind cause I love grinding stuff but it took me 100+ hours almost just for the attachments on all the guns granted that could be a skill issue. The camos alone are not worth the prestige (minus making a clan) My point here is some people just wanna play the game with all the attachments and prestige not just hard focus camos. Imagine a casual player wasting all the time in the world getting every gun max just 2 have them ripped away. Till the incentive changes im staying 200. That's just my opinion though

[latent cloak]

Fucking hate the prestige system and the levelling. got to level 175 before they changed the exp in 2.0 so spent well over 150+ hours and recently hit 200 and saw that "made prestige worth it" part of the patch notes and thought they must have given some kind of incentive to actually prestige some more rewards or what not, exp boosters for the back to 200 grind instead of just changing the exp gain around and only giving you the prestige skins which nearly all look fucking awful solid colours or some mix match colours that make the guns look awful. went ahead and prestige anyway and almost immediately regretted it when I went into a game and saw all of everything reset back to 0 and no I have to get all the way back to 200 again. there in an incentive to prestige it is a massive waste of time and a pain in the ass you won't get to keep a single weapon or skin for the grind back to get everything else you lost along with your stats but you get some shit prestige 1 skin that again you can't use right away cause they time kills to unlock. on top of that the black camo the one thing you unlock between lvl 150 and 200 you lose as you UNLOCK it at 200 instead on your prestige so thats gone and you have to go back climb the levels and unlock it again. in short not worth, fucking stupid don't prestige unless you youre some kind of streamer cause the grind may be worth the content.

[granite anchor]

I mean the entire point of prestige is for it to reset your progress and start over after you unlocked everything.

There is no reason to prestige if you don't want to. I would wager most casual or more casual players wouldn't prestige, or would only do so once over a long period of time.

Prestige is pretty much there for players who play a ton and enjoy/don't mind resetting progress at all.

I do think it can be improved, though, to make it something that's a bit more fun. Specifically I think unlocking a weapon and/or armor permanently every prestige would be great.

I also think you should keep all skins unlocked, and only have new ones to work on. This would let you focus on different weapons everytime you prestige.

You'd have to re-level, and re-unlock your attachments(even for your perm unlocked gun), but you'd have all the skins you've unlocked so far avail.

Honestly maybe one thing from every category - one gun, one armor, one camo, one cosmetic from head, chest, belt, etc that are now always avail.

Atm there aren't that many options in some categories, but I imagine more will be added in with time ; for example we might see variations on armor that give up explosives for more bandaids, etc, or more camos, head options, etc. So improving prestige by letting you unlock something permanently would be great once those things are added in.

I would love to have ranger armor available from lvl 1, for example, cus I like having all the extra ammo.

[grave kiln]

i wouldn't mind that the token thing for each prestige + whatever esle they plan for it but best way thing to add for prestige is the redeem tokens

[misty linden]

this

[spiral sail]

With its current iteration of resetting kills count on prestige it discourages trying to play with any new weapons since you have to keep unlocking everything and basically forces players who play a lot and want to prestige to keep using the same setup making efforts made in making new gun models obsolete. Personally unless the kill counter for camo's is kept between prestiges I will never use this feature despite being lvl 200 for a long time already.

[granite anchor]

Why would that discourage it? I use a bunch of different weapons every time I prestige

[spiral sail]

If I were to keep kill count, I would max camo and atrachments on one rifle and then move to others. Now I have to regrind camo every time until prestige 3 and then and only then I can feel like I am making any progress on camo unlocks. Makes the first 3 prestiges feel pointless.

[desert python]

I lost my pickaxe skin when prestiging. I feel like i should keep it. Its a pretty big achievement getting 1000 kills with it. And if i knew id loose it, id stay on the same prestige until it was changed. Prestige should be explained a bit more. It said skin progression will be reset. This sounds more to me that any kill count will be reset, not that skins will be removed.

[light badger]

I think the point you are potentially missing here about prestiging is the fact that every weapon unlocks at a different level. If I want to grind the camos on my ak5c then whenever I prestige it's going to be awhile before I even get to the weapon itself. I'd also argue there is no point to camo unlocks in the first place. All it truly is a skin you can use on a gun and doesn't really serve a purpose.

Prestiging allows people to start over and level to 200 again without the game getting boring. It gives purpose and meaning behind it hence why many people prestige. When prestiging by default you have to use a new weapon unless you were only using one of the starting weapons before. Essentially allowing players to get a new incentive for using that gun because you have access to the new camos. (Which are not great camos to begin with)

Even then I don't even see the camos people are using on their guns to begin with. You see a glimpse of it maybe but that is about it. I think the only point I'd recognize someones skin being cool is if there was a gold skin unlock that you needed like 100,000 kills on the weapon and a bunch of other insane requirements.

[spiral sail]

In this case why are camos locked behind prestige then? I like certain guns and would like to unlock certain camo for them but now I have to get to about 2500 kills, reset prestige, 2500 kills again, reset prestige, 2500 kills again and one last prestige before I can start doing another grind of 3100 to unlock camos for that specific gun. This pretty much forces players like me to rush prestige 3 and then never prestige again if we just want to unlock camo's. And yes, there is a significant enough group of people who play just to unlock camos.

[light badger]

I'm not the developer so I don't know, but maybe it gives reason to keep prestiging and using that gun. IF you really enjoy that gun whenever you get it on your next prestige you have some new camos that you can use.

Sure after level 3 the camos drop off, which doesn't incentize you to prestige further which I'd argue is great as a mechanic within itself. I know from my experience if you have 20 levels of prestige each with their own camos and unlocks many players would quit out right.

[spiral sail]

There is enough guns in the game that there is no reason not to keep camo kills as progress between prestiges. Otherwise it feels like a wasted effort to do so and turns people off from using prestige.

[light badger]

Well something I just remembered that they reduced the time it takes to prestige by a lot and the grind previously was longer.

Before prestige it would take 1500 kills to get the last camo for the first camo unlocks and then even more after that.

[light badger]

I currently think the camos on guns as of right now doesn't show anything to me. Other than the fact you have used a gun to get kills with.

At this point a camo is just simply a way for you to track kill count. While some individuals like being able to have a goal for their guns after awhile a camo will mean nothing. Essentially whenever people hit prestige 3 and don't ever prestige again the camos will be everywhere and the achievement will lose its value.

I would love to see harder unlock camos that require certain challenges for you as a player to highlight something other than just kills. Example is something like Dark Matter within the Black ops games. IT essentially shows people you have used every weapon and done the hard challenges to unlock the camo. THAT shows time and effort alone.

I would like to see prestige system within the guns themselves, thus allowing you to prestige the gun and get new camos as you relevel and unlock all the attachments over again all for the goal of unlocking a prestige skin (Sorry Larry). I'd like to see more unique skins within the game rather than camos themselves. Some creator skins are really cool but unfortunately they only have so many they give out.

[granite anchor]

That's why I would love to be able to unlock something permanently everytime I prestige. Would be great to have P90, FAL, L96, Deagle, AK5C, or Scorpion available at earlier levels so I can grind them more, especially since skin unlocks would be permanent then.

I already have around 12k kills on P90, it's my fav gun, but it means I don't get to play FAL and Scorpion as much as I'd like, especially with the faster progression, so unlocking them perm would be great. Or deagle since I love the 1deags, so I always have my preferred sidearm.

[light badger]

Yea it's why I suggested the prestige token from MW3. Allows everyone to play how they want too. Would be super cool !

[molten jungle]

A prestige token each prestige would be a great addition imo

Now how many prestiges to unlock literally everything :)

[light badger]

I mean within MW3 there was only 20, so you have to be careful with what u selected.

[keen tide]

I am a casual gamer. I like to play 30-60 minutes after work to unwind. I have no incentives for prestige. If I lose my weapons and attachments at some point, I will just quit the game.

[glass knoll]

Prestiging is a choice its not forced

[ornate plinth]

prestige absolutely discourages me to try different weapons out cuz after the painful grinding for famas, you will eventually lose it and start again, it's like the game telling you just use vector and ignore those bad weapons

[glass knoll]

I just prestiged and so far am enjoying going back to m4. I think that ranger armor is too high at lvl 75 for medic though.

Perhaps upon prestige the unlock tree could be compressed by 30%, so it takes less time to unlock all the weapons again

[atomic widget]

It’s already going to take less time as you are better now.

[glass knoll]

For example instead of getting the p90 at 125, in prestige 1 you get it at 85

[glass knoll]

Yeah, i dont mind it too much. Its less of a race to a reward, more of a journey to be enjoyed

[keen tide]

Thanks for letting me know. That is a relief.

[rugged gorge]

its not 2010
we dont need to reset everything after prestiging anymore to artificially lengthen playtime with the illusion of progress in $current_year
everyone knows its a useless thing to do that you only get bragging rights of "my number bigger than your number" and "i played the game more than you"

literally just make 'level' 201 automatically prestige 1 level 1 while keeping everything unlocked and carry on as normal leveling from (in quotes) "rank 1" again
prestiging should be a newgame+
not a factory reset

[keen sphinx]

All XP gained when level 200 is useless though. So it takes away this uselessness. You have the choice to not make these XP useless anymore, which is a tradeoff. Prestiging should reset all but 1 item/weapon of choice imho.

[dull crane]

having to unlock not wearing a helmet is beyond dumb. it slows me down. i dont want it but need 10lvls every prestige to learn taking it off. i get it you have it as a startitem as new players might need that little more protection but at least give me the option to take it off earlier. like i dont want to waste a round on unlocking no helmet to get back to speed

[weak plover]

Would be nice to see either stats (KD, KPM, SPM, ACC, WL etc) reset or "Current prestige stats" to compare with "Lifetime stats". Its nice to see yourself improving but obviously the more you play the harder it gets to raise your stats.

[weak plover]

You kill the point of prestige by not doing a "factory reset". The point of it is do the game over again so to speak with some slight cosmetic benefits. I personally like the very very very slight grind BBR has. Getting kills goes by fast and now so do levels.

[rugged gorge]

if im 'earning' this
i want to keep it
period.

[weak plover]

Its only 1k kills. Don't prestige if you want to keep it.

[coral oar]

This
I would prestige if my 4K kills with the FAL/3K kills with the RPG would be saved somewhere within the game and not some screenshots I took

[glass knoll]

I think loosing access to your weapons during prestige is not a problem.

The problem is that there are dead zones of progression where you dont unlock anything. Basically you only have the m4,ak15, and mp7 until you reach like rank 60 and start unlocking other interesting guns.

Just make the guns unlock more regularly, like 1 gun every 10 lvls or so.

I really really enjoyed how prestige forced me to switch back to the m4, and to change my playstyle again after using p90 for so long.

This made the game fresh and fun for me again, since the m4 is a beast. However, now im bored because i have to wait until like lvl 65 to unlock the groza, the next weapon i enjoy using, this is too long

[coral oar]

As images are better than a wall of text, here is what for me an ideal prestige system looks like

[granite anchor]

Not sure if this is prestige specific or UI related, but I would love to see my "per prestige" stats. I had a few screenshots saved and was able to calculate some stats between specific periods of play and see how much i've improved over time, but this is something that should be available for players without having to save screenshots or write down values and calculate them later manually

[torpid ore]

I really hope they rework the prestige system soon.

[glass tapir]

Probably it was already mentioned but prestige should just lock the weapons and but not reset the kill count

I'm trying to left all my weapons on 450-600 kills before moving to a new one and just having 12 weapons with that amount vaporizerd doesn't feels nice

[atomic widget]

So are people getting their kills refunded or are they just gone

Nvm looks like they can’t get them back

(This seems like a common theme with this game.)

[ornate plinth]

still a nice one though

[coral oar]

Okay question

will gagdet kills stay ?

[lusty epoch]

let's fucking gooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[nocturne rover]

For anyone wondering

i just prestiged

and kept my gun kills and skins

so it is in the game rn

for proof here

[coral oar]

And gadget kills ?

[nocturne rover]

lemme check rq

[nocturne rover]

kept

[coral oar]

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOO

Thanks for checking ❤️

[nocturne rover]

np ❤️

[eternal stream]

Nice! Now its time to go unlock pickaxe&sledgehammer skins again x]

[latent cloak]

anyone gotten that exclusive skin they said they would drop?

[glass knoll]

They probably havent made it uet

[covert heath]

does it unlock the attachment too?

or just a kills stat and camo?

[nocturne rover]

yes anything locked behind kills

camo's for guns attachments etc

[covert heath]

GODDAMNN

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-whoo-hoo-yes-yay-gif-17375289

[nocturne rover]

fr

[hallow warren]

prestige token for 1 gun perma unlocked plsss

[weak plover]

yes so i can keep my scorpion

[glass tapir]

Does that mean that the attachments remain unlock?

Shit sorry

I already read the answer

[nocturne rover]

Lmao np man

[keen sphinx]

I feel like its not insentive to prestige even though we keep the kills. The weapons I like most are all level 100+ so I am dead in the water from 1 to 100 levels. I startet with AK15 and the oder DMR like ARs but compared to my playstyle now it feels weak and unrewarding. My favorite weapon is AS Val and is it still weak even after buff. Look Honey Badger etc. which comes first. I will still stay level 200 it seems, as AS Val unlocks at level 105 or something.

[glass knoll]

the grind to the p90 is so fucking long

[grave gull]

i think they should have gave everyone till the update to prestige for the skin.

[glass knoll]

people didnt prestige because they didnt want to loose their gun stats, its only fair that people who decided to sacrifice theirs get compensated. You had the opportunity to prestige before but you didnt

[grave gull]

most didnt want to re-earn skins again to use them from what ive heard

[weak plover]

If level 200 is supposed to be the end of weapon progression and now that we have permanently unlocked weapon attachments, it seems to me that there's not much reason to relock weapons behind levels after you prestige to be honest. I'd suggest that either prestige would be a kill grind for camos or prestige camos change to XP requirements. Either way the logical conclusion at this point is to keep our guns for prestige.

[lusty epoch]

relocking guns is fine; it's a nice change of pace, and you keep attachments now so it's not nearly as painful

[rugged gorge]

i propose a backward ass idea that no game has one before because its stupid

you unlock weapons backwards every %2 prestige

[glass knoll]

This is kind of a cool idea

[rancid scaffold]

Some title allow you to keep ONE gun of choice upon each prestige (so prestige 2 you can keep the prestige 1 choice plus another, etc etc)

[rancid scaffold]

You have apparently prestiged

[rugged gorge]

"you all had the chance to do it,
even though there was no promises made at the time of a limited time skin for doing so,
and there was none,
actually scratch that,
there was negative reasons to prestige

its only fair that those people who made a stupid decision to prestige, lose their weapon kills, attachments and weapon kill skins, with no promises at the time of anything exclusive within a limited time window outside of the normal prestige rewards still avalible currently, and all the negative reasons to prestige at the time, get compensated with a skin for purposefully doing an irrational thing

so tough luck, too bad for you that your brain decided to act out the rational decision and avoid prestiging before the limited skin was announced"

i still dont even know what the limited skin is

[rancid scaffold]

If you’re sweat enough and agreed to the warning about the reset I don’t think you expect a “compensation”

It’s gonna be forever parallel arguments, players prestiged before the change will just refuse to acknowledge the lack of communications from devs and underestimate how fomo will drive away players

Or rather, amws (already missed why stay)

[granite anchor]

I prestiged twice before the exp update even went out, it wasn't stupid either time. Why would you think it's stupid to prestige? Sounds to me like it was more stupid to not prestige cus now you're in here seething over it

[subtle karma]

You're attacking your defender here considering it's someone justifying the reward

Or did you want nothing for your XP and prestige

[granite anchor]

doesn't matter to me whatseover. It's nice it happened but I prestiged expecting nothing.

My decision was informed and I understood what I was doing, I don't know why you think he's my defender when he's calling it a stupid decision.

[rancid scaffold]

A rather funny idea: a few guns that can only be unlocked by spending xp and thus doesn’t get reset by prestige, and make some’s xp cost larger than level up xp so you can only get them past lvl 200

(And just maybe, put an xp price tag on everything to be perma unlock)

annnd just maybe now you can sell some kind of monthly xp up battle pass

win win win solution

[granite anchor]

only if I get to keep my account total EXP 🙂

which means I AM RICH AS FUCK

[opaque stream]

prestiging is completely useless if you keep all attachments

you just go from using the ak74 with all attachments to using the ak74 with all attachments

[subtle karma]

attachments are tied to kills

either you kept camos and kills or you didn't keep camo and kills

[opaque stream]

yeah who cares

dont keep the kills then

or at least tell people the system changed

[subtle karma]

scroll up and see you're pretty alone in that

this whole thread was people complaining you didn't keep kills

[opaque stream]

well i dont see people complaining about that in other games that are much bigger

[vestal zinc]

whenever you die it should just send you back to level 1 https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1093214051926036530.webp?size=48&name=fenCool&quality=lossless

[subtle karma]

Point one out I'll look it up

[vestal zinc]

If you find prestiging useless then don't prestige

[opaque stream]

any call of duty before the modern level based prestige system

[subtle karma]

for example

[opaque stream]

like talking to a wall

[subtle karma]

Thanks

I'm looking at the cod wiki which one started doing camos?

[opaque stream]

my feedback is that i want kills to reset when i prestige

not looking to argue

[subtle karma]

I mean it could be added as a choice

[opaque stream]

my feedback is that i want kills to reset when i prestige
not looking to argue

[subtle karma]

like talking to a wall

[opaque stream]

my feedback is that i want kills to reset when i prestige
not looking to argue

literally just joined the server to say i prestiged and no where in the game does it say they changed the way it works

make it choice or not whatever

just dont do dumb shit like that

[vestal zinc]

god i hate when things are convenient

[subtle karma]

I can explain that one
The game didn't get updated to change that, but the database system did. Basically something he's gotta change with next update bc it wasn't a game change as weird as that sounds

[subtle karma]

that's the server

not the game

[vestal zinc]

Doesn't really matter

The prestige change is a good change, coming from someone who prestiged before the change

Losing all the kill trackings on my weapons just sucks, I don't mind losing attachments but resetting the kills for camos and just your overall profile didn't feel right

Especially when you consider something like sledgehammer or pickaxe skins, which needs like 500 kills

Imagine getting all the sledgehammer kills and then reaching prestige and knowing you will lose all that hard work

[rancid scaffold]

i see the problem, kill count is not separated for attachment and skin unlock

[rancid scaffold]

me running mp7 medic practically unaffected

[lusty epoch]

prestige should not unequip all your attachments and character customizations

very silly oversight that adds an unnecessary amount of hassle

[glass tapir]

Just prestige and lost my character customization

Should be an option to don't remove it or remove it

Now after the prestige I've been trying new attachments

[ornate plinth]

Prestige still unequips everything which is a bit weird

[mighty lotus]

Just got p1. Do I get it right that lvling up needs more hp with each prestige? Or maybe I'm tripping

[subtle karma]

Tripping

[latent snow]

would love the ability to have prestigeing being quicker the more you do it, like each time you prestige 10-15% xp boost each time so the leveling to 200 doesnt take quite as long. hitting 150 with the progression change is not too bad but still hitting 200 can take quite a bit, just would be a nice qol thing.

[eternal stream]

îts already fast as hell compared to before, current system is nice.

[latent snow]

i mean theres nothing new to do when you prestige other than just the camos and the level. would be at least nice to get a bonus to the amount you get so it goes by faster, plus it still takes a while and you got 10 levels of prestige to go through

[merry spear]

Tbh what would make prestiging somewhat worth and fun to grind is to add "prestige tokens" like they did on cod mw3. Where each time u prestiged u get a prestige token so u can permanently unlock a weapon or whatever. I love the FAL but its discouraging to grind for it since its lv 140 and i cant play the game everyday to grind for it.

dont know if this was already suggested but yh.

[eternal stream]

Devs already said they will add more stuff to make prrstige worth it. So we shouldnt make the progress faster just because its currently empty in Terms of rewards.

[obtuse plume]

Need more prestige level!! I will be get 10 soooooon!!

[wise whale]

prestiging shouldn't unequip your attachments or character customization. and honestly i don't think it should reset the unlocks on your character either, honestly. not being able to use all the cool customization options is a bit of a downer, and so is having to grind back up to ranger armor

resetting weapon and gadget unlocks is good enough i think

[coarse merlin]

Also losing the camos for your character is annoying because most people I play with recognize me using the black camo

[ornate plinth]

The black one is the only one you keep actually cuz it unlocks at prestige 1 now

[coarse merlin]

oh yeah forgot about that

[remote charm]

can we keep our setup on the guns, I take a lot of time testing what works best and having to redo that every prestige is a bit teidous

Camos in prestige overall feel like a downgrade to base camo for people who do not like flashy colors like red/blue/etc. The base have super nice bi-tone more realistic camos while prestige is realistic camos are one tone and usually quite bright, would be nice to have a balance in prestige.

[eternal stream]

All the camos already being reworked as shown in 2 most recent dev streams 👍

[mighty lotus]

that's neat

[remote charm]

good to hear, thanks! Then only the setup being gone when prestiging stays valid.

[kindred meteor]

Idk if this has been brought up yet but what if you were allowed to keep 1 weapon when you prestige?

[native oar]

I just found this thread, but will repost something I put in the progression discussion.

The problem with prestige systems always comes down to balance. How do you properly reward someone for throwing away all their unlocked weapons without crossing the line of being unfair?

Larry is working on a new camo system, yes, but camos and dad jeans aren't worthy enough reasons to suffer though a 200 level grind. but again, you don't want to add something incredible to prestige and basically force it. Imo prestige systems in general are nice for hardcore players who like the challenge, but for the average player it has no value.

Ideally, prestiging system is removed due to lack of content to make it worthwhile. Realistically though, it's going to stay and there will be a constant struggle to incentivize/reward prestiging. I've tried to think of things that can be added other than camos that wouldn't be game breaking and am coming up dry.

[wise whale]

humans like number go up. if you stop players from having their number go up, they'll feel less incentivized to play. it's as simple as that

[merry spear]

yh but if i want to play with one specific gun but have to go through 140+ levels to get it i have to sweat every match to hit 100k+ xp to get it quicker. ppl have irl lives and cant devote all their time to this game to reach that point. it gets unmotivating to do that at some point

[subtle karma]

Weekly challenges, win XP and who knows what else down the line are designed mainly for weekend warriors

You should be able to get it

[proud palm]

i still doesnt understand how prestige work, I have managed to reach level 200 and 2250 kills, but still can't get the skin, did i miss something?

or Do I have to buy "BattleBit Remastered - Supporter Pack 1" to get prestige?

@here

[subtle karma]

You need to click the button that says prestige rank up at the bottom @proud palm

It'll reset your level but once you reunlock P90 you'll have the skins

[proud palm]

ouuuu

okay

Thanks alot

[native oar]

It's just a number, though. A number no one looks at on the scoreboard and thinks "omg a prestiged person? SO COOL!"

[atomic widget]

I just don’t like that if you don’t prestige the max level is capped to 200. What’s the point in that?

[wise whale]

you're missing the point

it doesn't matter that no one cares, human likes when his number goes up

[fierce arch]

Not the scoreboard but I saw a squad that all had Halloween camo on their guns which you only get in prestige 2 and like 3,000 kills today and was impressed

[drowsy topaz]

Losing weapons every prestige is pretty inconvenient, don't love it but I understand the appeal.

I saw an amazing feature in Titanfall 2 that allowed you to buy weapons permanently using credits.

Titanfall also had constant prestige, which locked your weapons like BB:R, but you had credits you could spend to buy these weapons permanently, meaning you won't lose them when you prestige anymore.

The credits were non-purchasable; only got them from gameplay.

[fierce arch]

i know a lot of people are against that because the FAL/P90/M200/whatever is annoying enough as is, and i think they have a point. a short break to use some guns you havent touched in a while is a good thing

[drowsy topaz]

Great mechanic imo.

[obtuse plume]

need... more prestige...

[fierce arch]

need Cosmic Prestige where all xp gains are cut to 1/10th but it makes your name glowy

[stoic current]

Heard ✨

[stoic current]

There doesnt really need to be much other perks than camos. People love skins, and they love having a little number that shows how much they love and play the game.

Most of the camos before prestige 1 is pretty damn nice already. Cant see why the extra extra nice ones shouldnt be worked harder for.

Keeps people playing. As simple as that.

Plus no one is forced to prestige. If anything, it would be really nice if you could go beyond level 200, if you choose not to prestige 🤷🏻‍♂️ Then if you eventually do want to prestige, a percentage of the xp you have gained for those levels will count in your new prestige.

[slow linden]

I think it would be really cool if when giving prestige the weapons changed position, I think it's very annoying that you have to prestige and always use the M4, AK-74, MP7 and UMP, you could change these weapons with each prestige made in the case of SG550 +F2000/MP5+HK419, something random, I believe that all weapons today are great, of course there are those that are excellent, but they are all well balanced. Having to reach level 145 to get AK5C, FAL, HK419 and other weapons is bad, as we only have around 55 levels until the next prestige, that is, either we choose to stay at level 200 and have all the weapons or we have prestige and lose higher level weapons.

google tradutor**

[pine sparrow]

Would it be out of this world -balance wise- if, once you prestiged weapon unlocks globally needed 10-15% less requirements per prestige? Capped at 50% or something, so that it’s a tad easier to get unlocks for the higher level weapons.

So if gun requires level 90 and prestige = 1 , new level = 90 - 13.5 = 76

If a gun required 130 and prestige = 2
130 - 30% = 91

And so on?

[fierce arch]

Well you keep kill-based unlocks when prestiging now

so that's not really necessary

[pine sparrow]

Oh, this I didn’t knew, all places I read on it had only the old info, then I guess it would only matter for the gun themselves unlocking sooner but not too soon

[fierce arch]

yeah originally you lost all that stuff - people who did it and lost their stuff have a special camo for the MP7 that makes it into a space gun lol

[pine sparrow]

Okay updated my comment only for guns

[fierce arch]

I'd normally say the unlock curve is fine, but playing support before ultimax is pain

tho i kinda like the idea of shuffling unlocks better

[pine sparrow]

My only problem is that some weapons come so late into the unlocking sphere that you don’t get to enjoy them all that much but besides that… the numbers could also be whatever too

[fierce arch]

restarting and having the AK5C and G36 for ARs or something would be interesting

[eternal stream]

As mentioned like dozens of times in this thread, prestige tokens would solve all these issues 👍

[obtuse plume]

NEED MORE PRESTIGE LARRY!!!!!!!!!!!!

[molten jungle]

just dont put a cap on levels once you get to prestige 10, so you could just keep leveling past 200, see how high you could get

[obtuse plume]

unable to reach level 201

[molten jungle]

Yeah, but they should uncap it in the future, would be very funny

[obtuse plume]

but prestige will be expand up to 20

[weary reef]

whats the reason to remove all weapon setups once you prestige if we dont lose our attachments anymore? really makes me consider to not do it again because i never member but am happy with my attachment setups

[wise whale]

please stop unequipping our attachments and character customization every single prestige. thank you

it's such a silly oversight that adds an unnecessary amount of hassle

[warped mortar]

Would be cool if there was a character camo for each prestige level, like there is for prestige 1 now

[unborn fable]

====
Starcraft gives the example what is WORKING prestige system.
You have LEAGUES, you need to get stats to move to next league. Every win you get points, every lose you get less points (but not zero, otherwise you become angry IRL).
After a few days / week of offline you lose the league (ex: from platinum to gold, from gold to silver), but you have something like warming-cache. First few battles you get after a long break you get the 2x points, receiving them from warming cache.
If you play everyday - you get 15 points for win, and 5 points for lose (example). If you have a break, once you win you get 30 points, and 10 if lose. Warmcache fills up every night for 1-2 games, but maximum cache is like 10 games (100 reserved points). So if you had a long break you have additional points for 7-10 win games or 20 lose games. And usually its enough to restore your league.

[fierce arch]

i dont understand how that relates to resetting your rank but im really happy for you

or sorry that happened

[warped mortar]

Yeah what you’re describing is a ranking system not a prestige system

[unborn fable]

ah, my bad, i thought its the same, btw currently i dont understand how to get black camo, and prefer to use nature colored.

[coarse merlin]

To get black camo you prestige

One time

[unborn fable]

i still dont undestand how to get prestige =/

and heck it.

[narrow oracle]

Get to rank 200, then you can prestige

[unborn fable]

Already 200, for maybe 2 weeks. And nothing happened.

[narrow oracle]

Theres a prestige button in the Soldier tab in the main menu

[viscid seal]

prestige really shouldn't reset your armor options, imo it should be treated as attachments

[wise whale]

^^^

prestiging also shouldn't reset your equipped cosmetics/attachments

[merry spear]

prestige tokens plsplslpsplslps

[long vale]

Once you're 3rd prestige I think you should be able to bank a set amount of xp before prestiging up to level 30 equivalent.

I would also consider increasing bankable xp by 10 levels after each prestige. I believe this will reduce tedium, and make future skin grinding more approachable.

[merry spear]

just add prestige tokens

problem fixed

[jolly tulip]

prestige tokens would solve every issue i have with prestige

[merry spear]

legit, mw3 prestige system was so fucking good ADD IT TO THIS GAME PWEEETTY PWEASE XDDD

[lilac zodiac]

by prestige tokens you mean like BO2 where every time you prestige you get a token to perma unlock a gun/attachment/gadget? cause that would be great

[frank barn]

@lilac zodiac if that is what they mean by prestige tokens, that is exactly what I came here to suggest. A permanent gun per prestige would be great. Based on how many guns and potential future guns, probably need more then one per prestige.

[lilac zodiac]

i think they could find a happy medium but yes that is what i would suggest

[eternal stream]

we need more prestige levels - and skins unlocked at higher prestiges

[merry spear]

yea exactly, i feel like prestiging just to unlock more skins is just the most fucking boring thing to grind for

atleast make the grind somewhat fun and dont gatekeep players by forcing them to use a weapon they dont have fun with

[warped mortar]

Yeah there should be a character camo at each prestige like the one you get at prestige 1

That way you can visually identify high prestige level players in game

[fierce arch]

I kind of feel like that's what the 2500/5000 / 10,000 kill skins are supposed to be But it would be cool if there was a signature camo for p1-10

[warped mortar]

Yeah I mean when I see an enemy or teammate I can instantly see if they’ve prestiged because their uniform is black camo

Can’t easily see their gun camp

[wise cairn]

I would love if more prestige levels were added. Should be an easy number change in teh coding. 10 levels of prestige will soon be reached by some players. Being able to go up to 500 or so would be cool to keep the XP feeling relevant