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#PP19 - Feedback
jolly lotus
vagrant hornet
It’s pretty balanced
teal glen
Very well balanced, one of the most accurate SMG's with a decent fire rate. Was one of the few SMG's that I enjoyed using early on.
twilit sparrow
I think it's in a good spot.
cerulean berry
could use a 40 round extended mag option
sick wren
Nothing to complain, balanced and solid gun
drifting flax
I would like it to get the OKP-7 sight
true elk
I would like it to get the OKP-7 sight
True it's lovely to have that unique sight
harsh sandal
My gun of choice, I chose it because it felt balanced and would not be changed dramatically anytime soon
hardy relic
absolute laser beam, the reload speed of 2s feels really good on the gun.
fossil bluff
+1 re: it feels good. not cheesy and not useless. old faithful
harsh sandal
I wonder if it would be overpowered in the hands of the Assault class. (I completely understand not giving assault the MP7, MP5, and the Vector but PP19 is pretty tame in comparison). I mean the PP19 reload speed is already lightning fast without the Assault passive buff, but I am actually curious what it would look like on assault though.
rocky spire
Feels kinda weak compared to other smgs but it's accurate so honestly I'd say it's pretty balanced
cunning mulch
Would love to see an extended mag option with the helical mag the real gun originally came equipped with.
rocky spire
Same
wicked glacier
Cool but only on medium / long range, in close ranges you will probably lose 1 x 1 fight because it has kinda low dps ( compared with most of others smg and popular ar), I understand why, but it sad anyway
rocky spire
Cool but only on medium / long range, in close ranges you will probably lose 1 x...
Still very accurate and the reload is insanely fast
kind of the best balanced smg
wicked glacier
Yes, but on close range you will die from most of auto guns
rocky spire
I'd honestly say half
if your against guns like the SG aug or m4 you'll win due to the rpm increase
In cqc that is
wicked glacier
Nah, you didn't, or idk, I was few times in situations there I just started shooting first but die against Aug and etc
rocky spire
literally how
i actually beat people with ars with this thing
maybe i do well with the gun idk
placid stratus
underpowered
needs some buff
the real life version has 800 RPM
also getting headshots with this thing boosts the damage up to 30
which doesn't help at all
you need same btk if you're hitting body shots vs all headshots which is just wrong
vagrant hornet
underpowered
needs some buff
rocky spire
the real life version has 800 RPM
If this thing got up to 800 rpm it would be the old mp5 all over again
placid stratus
If this thing got up to 800 rpm it would be the old mp5 all over again
wdym "all over again"?
currently neither pp19 nor mp5 have anything unique about them and dont specialize in anything
whatever they do, other weapons do better and more
proven vine
MP5 has literally no recoil
PP19 has the least damage fall off out of all SMGs (excluding MP7 fuck the MP7 please nerf the MP7)
they both have their niche
placid stratus
MP5 has literally no recoil
neither does AK74/M4/PP19/Ultimax and probably more than i forgot
placid stratus
PP19 has the least damage fall off out of all SMGs (excluding MP7 fuck the MP7 p...
and u already pointed the issue here
mp7 already has the range AND more ROF so why bother with PP19?
also they do the same damage
and also range for an SMG is kinda stupid thing to bring up since why the hell are u even bothering with smgs if you're gonna be hitting stuff at long ranges?
you're better off using ARs for that
not to mention every class that gets SMGs, also gets ARs so... nothing restricting you there
proven vine
neither does AK74/M4/PP19/Ultimax and probably more than i forgot
none of those have a movement speed buff
proven vine
and also range for an SMG is kinda stupid thing to bring up since why the hell a...
not every map has a lot of CQC areas
proven vine
and u already pointed the issue here
mp7 already has the range AND more ROF so w...
that's an MP7 issue, not a PP19 or MP5 issue
placid stratus
none of those have a movement speed buff
yeah they have other things going on for them
like bigger mags or more damage or something else
also the movement "buff" isn't even noticable compared to something like mp7
placid stratus
not every map has a lot of CQC areas
okay and?
proven vine
yeah they have other things going on for them
like bigger mags or more damage or...
except that it is. 1.05 is still really good
proven vine
okay and?
movement speed is really important whether you're picking close range or long range engagements. the ability to pick your fights and run away from disadvantageous situations is invaluable
placid stratus
movement speed is really important whether you're picking close range or long ra...
what are u even replying to?
placid stratus
except that it is. 1.05 is still really good
1.15 with shortmag FAL
lmao
proven vine
1.15 with shortmag FAL
lmao
"i don't know how attachments work"
it's actually 1.03
attachments only affect movement speed by a fifth of what they say
vagrant hornet
Pp19 is fine where it is
placid stratus
"i don't know how attachments work"
i really don't
if u know, tell me
proven vine
i already did
placid stratus
attachments only affect movement speed by a fifth of what they say
why devs would even do that?
proven vine
it is a mystery
placid stratus
i already did
thx
slow internet = me reply late
proven vine
what are u even replying to?
"why the hell are u even bothering with smgs if you're gonna be hitting stuff at long ranges?"
placid stratus
Pp19 is fine where it is
ye it works
it just has nothing unique about it that'd make u wanna pick it over anything else
proven vine
40m damage fall off WOULD be unique if the MP7 wasn't an overtuned piece of shit
once the damage fall off on that drops to 20m, then PP19 will have a real niche
placid stratus
"why the hell are u even bothering with smgs if you're gonna be hitting stuff at...
also my point was that ARs do better at ranges and something like ACR has that 1.05 speed + more damage and more range and is available to every class who can also use PP19
see the issue now?
proven vine
ACR has a longer TTK though
placid stratus
true but their ROF difference is only 50
proven vine
that's the same difference as between PP19 and MP5. it can definitely have an impact
placid stratus
mp5 is 50 rounds per minute faster and does more damage so no
the impact isn't enough to make anyone wanna pick pp19 over acr
proven vine
i wouldn't be opposed to PP19 getting a small damage buff, but like, it's perfectly serviceable. just completely overshadowed by the MP7
stone pike
i wouldn't be opposed to PP19 getting a small damage buff, but like, it's perfec...
it got a way faster reload, more than half the h-recoil and a lot less v-recoil aswell
placid stratus
it got a way faster reload, more than half the h-recoil and a lot less v-recoil ...
at the range u gonna be using MP7/PP19 the recoil doesn't matter as much
stone pike
at the range u gonna be using MP7/PP19 the recoil doesn't matter as much
if you're using the pp19 as a cqc gun then idk what to tell you, it's moreso a 9mm carbine than a smg
placid stratus
LMAO
stone pike
like idk what to tell you that's what its stats suggest and that's how it plays
olive violet
replace the pp19 with the pp-19
rocky spire
It should have the helical mag
olive violet
Aaa they're both pp-19 but the one in battlebit is the pp-19-01
Thought the dash there was the difference oop. Wish he had the previous one. The bison, not the vityaz
olive violet
Ye
harsh sandal
The pp19 is basically just a worse mp5, less recoil but also less damage. I feel like it needs less range fall off to fit its strange role as the ak SMG granted its current stats. What do other people think?
keen stream
"It needs less range fall off"
Agreed