#ACR - Feedback

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latent nest
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Put your feedback on the ACR.

Please keep it on topic, and civil, we want serious feedback

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vocal canopy
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Great changes to it overall imo, gun isn't super powerful (not that it has to be), and has its niche. Will definitely be using it more going forward.

urban surge
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when i used this gun its actually feels so much better. feels like a middle ground for smg and rifle.

viscid swift
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I really like the changes, it feels so much nicer to use and is actually a viable alternative to the M4A1 now.

lethal sapphire
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should probably bump down the recoil, or up the damage range. MP5 outclasses this gun pretty badly except for damage at 200m

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thin bison
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I think acr is aight but mp5 and other smgs should get the fall off treatment vector and scorpion have.

little dagger
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I think the ACR needs a small rate of fire buff to keep it inline with other ARs

supple oriole
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the first shot recoil on this gun is too high, makes it useless trying to kill at long range

urban surge
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what all rifle has the same first shot recoil tho

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have you seen the groza first shot on groza? also this gun wasnt meant to be for long range tho.

supple oriole
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just go shoot the acr, then go shoot the 550, and tell me the first shots recoil isnt different, especially while aiming at targets far away

vocal canopy
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Aren't they both 1.0?

urban surge
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they are

vocal canopy
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Then what he's experiencing is just the innate difference in vertical recoil lol

sand parrot
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buff the damage

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tbh

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by like 2

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yeah nvm its not good

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just being honest every other ar beats it

vocal canopy
sand parrot
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nope

vocal canopy
# sand parrot nope

decent ttk, good recoil, fastest movement speed in-class by far, fastest ADS speed in-class

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i wouldn't mind another small buff

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but the gun is in a good state already

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if you have any issues, it's not the gun's problem

sand parrot
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it feels weak imo

tribal drum
# sand parrot it feels weak imo

because it needs 5 bullets to kill ranger/light armor? I feel less punchy when I'm using this gun and in 1vs1 I often lose unless I hit the head

vocal canopy
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that's just how the gun is designed atm

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you're supposed to take advantage of the superior mobility

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it's not going to win any fights through brute TTK advantage

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unless you're up against an AUG HyperXD

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hearty dagger
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Every AR beats it, but you shouldn't be using it like an AR, you should be using this like an SMG with reach. I think it's a fine way to differentiate it.

rich hornet
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If I want an AR-SMG, I'll just use a Famass though.

vocal canopy
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famass doesn't get the movement speed buff

analog garnet
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still not good sadly

rich hornet
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yeah the gun doesn't have a reason to exist in the game, a bit faster movement hardly means much when SMGS do a better job at almost everything. Why would I take this gun over a MP5?

urban surge
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it moves faster

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reloads faster

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ADS faster

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has an AR range

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that you can probably beat smgs at 50m+

rich hornet
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it ads slower than the mp5, it runs slower than the mp5, it's reload speed is only slightly faster than mp5 and it has higher velocity

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it's recoil is noticably inferior to the mp5

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the damage and rpm is inferior to the mp5

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the only thing it has is the damage drop off of ar, but a good smg user will always be moving closer and closer

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this gun has a terrible identity

honest perch
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like the child between m4 and sg550, from what i can tell it just feels inferiour to both

rich hornet
honest perch
hearty dagger
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While I won't mind a buff, the ACR is my go-to for engineer because of the movement speed. It lets me hunt down tanks while letting me stay light and have a weapon that's serviceable at longer ranges. It trades lethality for flexibility and speed,

vocal canopy
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it's basically like a slightly worse alternative to the SG550 atm

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which honestly is fine

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it has its niche, and the gun doesn't need to be op

rich hornet
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no it needs a better niche

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you missed the point, everything it does, it is better done on smgs

vocal canopy
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it already has a good niche

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and no, it "isn't better done on smgs"

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you think the ACR is worse than the PP2000 or UMP?

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the fact that it's worse than the best SMG in the game isn't an issue
also, now that i think about it, in terms of 50-60m+ TTK, it's prob a tossup between the MP5 and ACR now, which isn't half bad

rich hornet
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it's not even a toss up with 800 rpm and 29 damage with no recoil

vocal canopy
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yeah, except damage dropoff is a thing, even on the MP5

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i would figure out the exact numbers if the spreadsheet was working for me 🤷

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and not to mention ACR gets the AR headshot multiplier

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so if you can aim, it'll definitely out-TTK the MP5 at midrange

rich hornet
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if you can aim you can drop consecutive headshots with mp5's extremely no recoil with a full spray

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just agree to disagree

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getting nowhere

vocal canopy
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and if you can aim, at midrange, you'd do better with the ACR because of the significantly higher headshot multiplier 🤷

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i think we can all acknowledge that the ACR isn't exactly a S tier weapon

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no point in comparing it to an actual S tier weapon

urban surge
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i mean those smg would probably get the vector damage fall off nerf soon too

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probably

pearl pulsar
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If this gun is going to remain the worst ar in the game, then at least buff its movement speed from 1.05 to 1.10 or increase its accuracy by reducing h-recoil further down.

For what its worth, m4 and g36 is far superior then 5% movment speed buff.

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lower damage = more accuracy by all fps standarts

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its as if oki never played og cod games and bf 3 and 4

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its so easy to balance guns in this game. just copy and paste good shit from good games.

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if its aint broken, why fixing it

pearl pulsar
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lol

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fin fal qick mags gives x3 of acr bonus

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are you fucking kidding me

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acr is litteraly a placeholder gun

mighty bison
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can we bump the fire rate of ACR just a tad? maybe 750 or something.

mighty bison
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Hk419 and Aug got a rof bump 🥲

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wind hare
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No one seems to notice that quick b is what makes the gun good
Its a quick mag with 35 rounds and no ms penalty and for whatever reason ads buff
No other ar has practically an extended mag with better reload speed that doesnt break legs
Hope it wont get nerfed

mighty bison
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It just doesn't have the oomph of other guns which I guess is the trade off.

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A slight RoF will help but still keep its niche

celest parrot
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slate jackal
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ACR is the low damage Godtier handling gun in my head, here's a rework concept I literally just thought of.

slate jackal
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ACR

  • Damage increased from 27 to 29.
  • Light Vehicle Damage increased from 2 to 3.
  • Firerate increased from 700 to 725.
  • Vert recoil reduced from **1.40 **to 1.35.
  • Hori recoil reduced from 0.80 to 0.65.
  • Sound Spread reduced from 600 to 500.
  • Reload Time sped up from 3.73 sec to 3.60 sec.
urban surge
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or better than an m4 in someway

mighty bison
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turning into a SMG with those stats.

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it keeps it unique with 35 round mag and 1.05 speed. after grinding on the G36C, fire rate buff will make it better than the g36c which has 750 rof.

ember drum
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The R K-6 foregrip provides a crazy 0.00 aim down time bonus

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regal prawn
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This weapon hits like ass.

wind hare
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1.10 ms pls to cement the fast running ar niche

mighty bison
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Give ACR faster ads time since the mobility helps with cqc while running around

slate jackal
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If we wanna make ACR the handling AR then we can consider something like reload, swap, ADS, etc...

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I thought my older proposed ACR balance changes kinda slapped ngl

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I'm gonna do a new one why not

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ACR
Adaptive Combat Rifle

  • Damage increased from **27 **to 28.

  • Light Vehicle Damage increased from 2 to 3.

  • Firerate increased from 700 to 720.

  • Vertical Recoil decreased from 1.40 to 1.35.

  • Horizontal Recoil decreased from 0.80 to 0.70.

  • Aim Down Time sped up from 0.21 to 0.19.

  • Reload Time sped up 3.73 sec to 3.62 sec.

  • Sound Spread decreased from 700 to 640. (quieter)

Very similar to last rework, which is funny since I did this from scratch without looking. Biggest difference from this compared to the first is no 3-shotting light / ranger armor.

Love doing these idk why. 😋

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mighty bison
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ACR has been my most successful gun after mp5. Nice for running around taking engagements at 60-100m. Maybe even faster ads or if ads while moving can be a bit quicker would be cool.

zealous hazel
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I agree the damage needs to get bumped up a little. ATM it just feels like a hitmarker machine.

glad solar
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it should have just higher rate of fire, smth like 800

mighty bison
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Middle ground is the g36c. Hk419 has the RoF but suffers beyond 100m imo

mighty bison
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ACR with movespeed, high RoF, low recoil, and extended B mag would be OP

hallow ridge
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ACR now is really solid, reminds me of old mp5 meta, but with 100 less rpm but faster reload

mighty bison
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And better range and mag

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ACR is the SMG of AR now.

hallow ridge
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yea, old mp5 had 50m range, just like ACR, but since mp5 got nerfed i wanted a similar weapon with 1.05 move speed and fast ADS but still with decent range, and here it is

hallow ridge
mighty bison
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Long supressor is viable with low recoil as well. Pretty crazy

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Tbh, it might be too good in all aspects

hallow ridge
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imo its just better M4 all around, maybe 30dmg means some better bullets to kill with armor but it has worse handling stats than ACR so idc

mighty bison
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M4 can be all rounder, but maybe with the stats now, ACR can get a bit higher H recoil so it's long range game isn't too strong

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Movement speed for position plays, but as it is with the low recoil, movespeed, normal RoF, it's very strong.

hallow ridge
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one of the better flanking and stealth guns in the game for sure

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good to see it being a meme, worthless gun to now being this good

mighty bison
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I can see if it becomes meta, they can nerf the h recoil

vagrant quarry
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makes me curious how the new ACR compares to the Famas

mighty bison
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totally diff

hallow ridge
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funny that u mention it, cuz famas and ACR are the weapons im using most of the time now, famas is great for cqb (its heavier but faaaaar better reload speed MP7 basically) while ACR is for well - everything really xd

mighty bison
hallow ridge
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yea, we think alike i see 😄

mighty bison
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I got to give famas a try again. But the low mag is harsh when you're blazing thru ammo

hallow ridge
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assault role and quick mag with the famas completely negates the drawback of 25 rounds, its one of (if not THE fastest) reloading ar in the game

urban surge
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how much reload speed?

hallow ridge
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dont remember precisely, but something along lines of 2.68~ sec?

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defo starts with a '2' xd

urban surge
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lemme check pretty sure aug also is around that time

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nvm aug has 2.36 reload speed

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meanwhile famas is 2.5

hallow ridge
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ah, so yea, still super fast

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meanwhile mp7 with its sluggish 3.7 something reload with a quick mag, bleh

urban surge
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thats just quick mag option on both

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3.25 but you can slap urk on it since youll be fighting cqc anyway

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making it around 2.9

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anyway getting out of topic

hallow ridge
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yeaaa, but its not on assault class, which is a bummer, and with the recent bandage speed change, its even more pointless to run agressive medic and mp7, at least imo

urban surge
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acr feels like a better m4 to me now

urban surge
hallow ridge
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wait, are smgs now in assault class?

urban surge
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some

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mp7 is on pdw now

hallow ridge
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dope, didnt check that tbh

urban surge
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and its on assault class

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lol

hallow ridge
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huh

mighty bison
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M4, sg550, ACR, are a lot distinct now

urban surge
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yeah

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i agree

mighty bison
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M4 is all rounder, ACR is SMG, SG is aug

hallow ridge
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yea, its really cool that all ARs now have their own unique role and there's little overlap between them

mighty bison
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I think I might just go back to Aug. I played with ak74 and ak5c extensively yesterday

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ACR felt nice, but I feel I need to be a bit more sweaty to get its use. Hanging back and hosing is nice.

hallow ridge
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still waiting for AN94 tho, really eager to check how it would work with stabil grip and basic barrel attachment for max reduction for 1st shot kick, since its gonna be 2 hyper burst gun, so if u think about it, the second shot recoil wont matter that much

mighty bison
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Whats might be the potential stats?

hallow ridge
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dunno, i wonder if its gonna be locked burst or will there be a full auto as well

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i'd wager its gonna be low h recoil with like 1.6 vertical and 1200 rpm (2r burst)

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30dmg

urban surge
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and if i just feel like aug isnt the mood i just use acr or the g3

mighty bison
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Aug/sg550 helps uptime since I don't like running ranger vest. I had so many instances I need to reload ak74 and just die mid combat

violet dragon
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it is little bit too good now

celest parrot
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this shit with assault should be illegal

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mighty bison
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I feel any gun is attainable but ACR is really good with movespeed and ads.

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With all the supports running around, the damage still sometimes feel like pebbles

glossy parrot
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gun is a fucking laser and has a ridiculously fast reload speed with the right class and accessories. also doesn't suffer from 1 mag 1 kill syndrome that a ton of other guns in its class have. somehow despite its strengths it's still not in the top 5 strongest guns rn though so it can stay as it is. cool weapon

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Personally I'm running assault with URK, muzzle break, strikefire, quick mag

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which I think is definitely its strongest loadout

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glossy parrot
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oh yeah sorry got them mixed up

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I'm using the flash hider

hallow ridge
somber leaf
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literally unplayable

hallow ridge
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isnt it like that excatly the same in og CoD MW2? XD they made the same mistake with the mag