#New XP and gun requirements

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ionic agate
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When i first started in the playtest it felt really good since i would play with a gun and unlock the next. I think it was too short but this new system is wayyyy to harsh and grindy. I've heard that it is 2.6 times harder to unlock new weapons. **The new guns are locked behind level 145 which will take me 841 minutes to unlock with a 2.8 kpm **(yea I did the math) Oki i love this too much so i hope you read enough of these.

floral shore
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which mode you play to get a 2.8kpm ? i usually play 64v64 and most of my time spent is running

ionic agate
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domination

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and skill

floral shore
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which size?

ionic agate
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127

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you can do it any gameode

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i'd say use the fal but its locked at rANK 140

strange sinew
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so 14 hours for lvl 145? that doesnt seem unreasonable..

ionic agate
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its probably more like 80

strange sinew
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@ionic agate lol i'm just going off op's math, no doubt it takes longer

ionic agate
strange sinew
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well we dont really know the curve tbf

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im sure someone will figure it out tho

ionic agate
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itsl ik 400k xp for lvl 100

cyan sorrel
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Compromise for people saying lower the levels
Battlefield 4 had a system like this, where you only unlocked weapons based on the weapon type you used.

To unlock new assault rifles you have to use assault rifles, Snipers for Snipers. Handguns for handguns.
I shouldnt be able to c4 spam and level up to get weapons and never touch a weapon nor should I have to do that if I want to unlock the desert eagle.
Alot of people want arbitrary progression so they dont get bored of the game, I prefer meaningful connected progression instead of ranking up for the sake of it.

Another alternative, would be something LIke tokens, this way people cant complain about balance, level 100+ have huge advantages due to weapon choices for instance.
Upon leveling up you get one token and it can unlock anything, Each level lets you unlock one thing, this way i never have any uneeded items, if i never want to unlock snipers I never techinically have to.

Promote choice and Flexability in favor of linear progression

ionic agate
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nahh

strange sinew
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yeah i also thought about tokens but i think the problem is 1) the game is already out and thats kind of a thing you'f want to sort in testing and 2) oki probably worries that if people just immediately unlock the weapons they like most with their tokens theres less incentive to keep playing

ionic agate
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just change it bac kto the way it was

strange sinew
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i think the battlefield system would be good

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it shouldnt take forever to unlock the specific gun you want but it shouldnt be a freebie either

cyan sorrel
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What is currently implemented is much worse, they took all the guns people loved to use, then put them at the very end of the line, whether they were better than others or not

strange sinew
cyan sorrel
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People like to experiment and see what they like, they cant do that if the guns are locked behind weeks of grinding

strange sinew
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oh yeah i totally agree, i personally would love it. but i understand why its probably not gonna happen

cyan sorrel
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there are better altternatives, I think b4s system makes the most sense in this game in terms of fair and balanced

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that way if i want a specific thing theres atleast criteria to meet specific to what i want

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Right now it just boils down to play more

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With handguns, snipers, smgs, i have to change my playstyle

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In this current system, i can use the same gun start to finish and unlock everything , doesnt even have to be a gun, can just be a medic or rpg man

strange sinew
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yeah exactly

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def think at least an unlock token per prestige would be nice

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imagine ur fav gun is like max lvl and u get to play w it like an hr before prestiging lmao

keen galleon
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The only acceptable way they can make prestiging desirable is if they leave everything unlocked. So basically not make it a prestige system.

That, or fix the atrocious ranking speed.

copper pebble
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Wait can someone explain to me what kpm is?

tulip rivet
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#1119571396562006086 I've made some math, for now killing matter more than anything else
So yeah EXP need a severe rework

ionic zodiac
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I know this might sound pointless but maybe get some xp from people who use your grappling rope not alot like 5xp 🙂

green jewel
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The developers will simply ignore this discussion

solar maple
# green jewel The developers will simply ignore this discussion

Sadly you're probably right, and it's maddening. Most of the weapons being higher level unlocked wouldn't be an issue if there were MORE WEAPONS between then. As a new player who is level 25, and gets at minimum 2 level progression each day, looking at most of the guns being level 90+ turns me off completely from wanting to play.

I have no issue grinding for attachments, but grinding for gun variety is stupid. I love this game, but I don't want to be stuck with the same 3 guns for 100+ hours.

It legitimately feels like the devs are

  1. Rewarding the people without a life who can afford to spend 5+ hours a day playing.

and

  1. Rewarding the good players who go positive each game, while shitting on lesser skilled players.
green jewel
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That's exactly what it is

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In addition, developers do not look at channels like feedback and do something only if some streamer says

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But I don't understand why it was necessary to remove the progression system from the playtest and replace it with the shit that we have now

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The old system worked well...

solar maple
green jewel
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😔

crimson dune
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I would like to have challenges for weapons, game modes for xp. Daily/ weekly quests would be nice for xp as well.

zenith panther
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We have had a lot of these threads

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let's hope another one helps the visibility

zenith panther
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yeah people definetly will prestige this multiple times

reef sphinx
finite sky
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I don't know where I can post my feedback so I am putting it here, I dont know if it would be a good idea but maybe there should be a small XP gain when you unlock attachments for guns. It does not have to be crazy but I find myself using the same guns so I can progress faster as I have no real need to try different guns if I am getting less XP via kills. This thread is really good with a heap of good suggestions so I hope the devs see it

wet pilot
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I'm a subpar teammate, so this grind gets even worse, the worse you play

green jewel
crimson dune
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it would be nice to have challenges like daily or weekly and weapon specific challenges that award you xp towards that specific gun.

ionic zodiac
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maybe get some xp from winning a match not alot like 5k

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or less

marsh coyote
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Yes please decrease when guns are unlocked. From the moment I started playing I was excited to unlock the AS-VAL and mostly played to get to Rank 105 and it took me around 70 hours with a 0.9 KPM. And I wanna say most of the casual player base has less than a 1 KPM.

crude pagoda
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This was like 2-3 weeks ago

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