Squad Leader class sucks

[weak latch]

Basically a little bit better assault. We need a system like Squad where only playing Squad Leader class give you full ability and if you don't you get Fireteam leader status

[lofty kite]

squad leader isnt used in casual
only for hardcore once that releases

[weak latch]

idk why it still being an option in casual

[weak latch]

is that the incentive?

[lofty kite]

no idea
blame oki lol

[weak latch]

lol ok

[scenic fox]

Hardcore?

Do you know what the difference between that and normal would be

Is it like ranked?

[lofty kite]

no

wont say more on it until oki makes an official post

[gleaming birch]

You’ve never played hardcore in a game?

It removes hud, health indicators, stuff like that.

[scenic fox]

Oh that

I think the only comparison to that i have is cod

[dense jewel]

hardcore probably is:
no spawn on team mates, only on SL and Rally Points.
twice faster TTK.
Split vehicle control (aka tank drive one person, main cannon turret use another).
Stamina that let you run infinity time, but with low stamina your aim will be soo bad.
magazine ammo count wont be accurate like right now.
Team based weapons to play (RUS with AK only, USA cannot us AK etc.)
And probably other slight gameplay adjustments .

[weak latch]

so basically squad but low poly?

[vital stirrup]

[vital stirrup]

yes

[sacred maple]

Just hope they add all this without the ttk adjustement

[sudden basin]

So there is not supposed to be rally points in casual, cause only SL class can place them as far as i know?

[lofty kite]

Any class can place the rally points
In conquest
As long as your the leader of the squad (class doesn’t matters)
When hardcore hits rally’s will only be placed by a squad leader using the squad leader class

[dense jewel]

maybe after EA we will have some content update related to squad and team works.
aka smoke artillery strike with UAV in area for squad points.
Ability to select target objective from map.
Ability to place SL ping for you squad only etc.

There is a lot of QoL features that will take a long time

[lofty kite]

👀

Smoke artillery strikes
I like the sound of that

[dense jewel]

well Oki is against of Mortal Strikes and Air Strikes due when chaos happened regular player wont note notification about incoming strike and will b angry that he was died from nowwhere.

So i hope to have smoke strikes as a base that wont harm anyone

[lofty kite]

Maybe just a smoke mortar?

[dense jewel]

well, maybe, but again. not any time sun

maybe SL as class will get unique gadgets aka Avanced Drone with thermal vision and spot ability?
or his avanced binocular will have thermal vision + ranger finder on it to make it useful.

[lofty kite]

That would be nice
With the ability to click m1 and select points for the binos

[dense jewel]

or make DMR rifles exlusive for SQ only xD

so he will stay behind squad as a portable spawn point and control/manage squad

but again. there is even no XP when someone spawn on rally point, so its a long long time to discover QoL at some point

[simple jungle]

I’ve been playing Insurgency Sandstorm in the downtime between Battlebit playtests. Fire support is the most infuriating thing in that game.

[scenic fox]

Agreed

[weak island]

2x ttk??

It's already to fast for some weapons

[quiet haven]

What about something like CAS like A-10

[lofty kite]

that could fall under the artillery's smoke tbh

maybe one for a small circle area

then another for the A-10 which goes down a long road for example

wouldnt be half bad

[wicked chasm]

I feel like the leader class should have access to all the weapon class weapons except for the big lmgs and sniper rifles, it would make it so that you have the option of using smgs and aren't limited to the marksman and assault weapons

[grand panther]

Squad leader needs to be relevant to the squad right now been a squad leader does not have any relevance compared to other classes, why switch to squad leader when as a medic I can heal myself and access to the same weapons / as a sniper I got More damage and range / as a engineer I got a RPG to shot at people / as a support I never run out of bullets what does a player gain by becoming the squad leader? You can make a beacon for the squad to spawn and that would be it. Not very appealing for the average player, it also doesn’t help that the notice when the squad leader changes is very small, I have found myself been a squad leader every now and then but I did not realize “when” did I become the squad leader and I have no incentive to switch to the role because again there is very little benefit to me

I think that a fix for this would be to let anyone choose the squad leader role as opposed to however the game decides that might have no interest in the role, also making it more relevant to the squad like for example allowing squad mates to spawn only on a flag/car/beacon/squad leader instead of any squad mate

Making it that only the squad leader can request air drop supplies for the squad as well

[ebon ore]

being squad leader needs to have more indicators that you are the squad leader, players spawn in and dont even now besides a text prompt that they dont even read. Also make it to where you have to pick squad leader on purpose, most squad leaders just rush for kills and dont put down relays or even coordinate teams