#Kriss Vector needs smaller mag/more recoil

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wild junco
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Either one should work. The Kriss Vector has laser accuracy at medium ranges that I often outshoot my opponents using assault rifles, and the mag size leaves me very unpunished for missing a lot of rounds up close. The latter seems okay, but the former is silly IMO.

sharp carbon
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It's damage should drop very fast on the distance. I was outshouting everyone too.

sick glen
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More spread and faster drop-off are much more realistic and reasonable nerfs

grave fern
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More spread would remove it's character. Damage drop off might be the perfect nerf

ripe jackal
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At range it should blow, but the purpose of the vector is supposed to be forgiving at close range, having low recoil, high rpm and great control. However there's more than a few times when I've used the vector for 3000 kills of 4000, that some armored enemies seem to take a lot of bullets to kill. Unreasonable amounts even, and it's fire rate keeps it viable. I say this comparing how it 2-3 scar shots kill you, while sometimes it feels like I'm getting 4 headshots on someone and sometimes they'll still turn around and dome me.

void dune
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Could just get rid of its full auto fire mode

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And limit it to 2 round burst

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If you guys feel that raw about it.

ripe jackal
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I like where it's at, tho I don't mind changes either, I'll adapt but it won't stop me from using it.
I do like the idea of 2 rnd burst, I was a little sad it didn't already have it, but it would be outrageous with full auto and 2 rnd burst
Or, maybe we go balls to the wall, make most weapons a very OP version of themselves, and maybe increased body Armor or health to keep it low ttk but not ĺimb shots and insta t death.
When everything is OP
Nothing is

wild junco
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I think drop off cuz realistically, it's 9mm. It shouldn't have so much damage past 10 meters.

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And yeah, add a 2 round burst just to help it at medium range.

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Personally, a lot of assault rifles need help with accuracy and recoil

pine urchin
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The recoil with ext mag is already pretty high
Hence why people run fast mag sometimes

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Coming from 13k+ kills with the vector

ripe jackal
ripe jackal
wild junco
# ripe jackal .45 apc*

Well either or IRL. I guess in game it's listed as 45 apc? I'd feel recoil needs to be more with that.

ripe jackal
wild junco
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Ah neat. Not as well versed in guns but honestly cool you know that.

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Of course if we're still being realistic, I think assault rifles need a big buff cuz as far as I understand it, there's not that much recoil when firing most guns full auto.

Maybe not nerf the vector insomuch as buff all the other rifle's recoil (aka remove some of it). Having to slowly tap fire the Aug at medium range is kinda dumb and infuriating.

ripe jackal
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It's my fave gun of all time lol. I've been using it in fps since they could get the license for its use. I'd use it in BBR if it shot 6mm plastic BBs lool

wild junco
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Lmao

ripe jackal
wild junco
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Yeah but the rate of tap firing is ridiculous

ripe jackal
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It's pretty on par honestly. Lots of shooters feel like the gun is a GBBR instead of 5.56. Guns tend to kick hard, and this game leans more towards ARMA then it does COD in some cases

daring geyser
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Thing that makes the vector insane imo is the stability and the amount of mags that it has. It comes with 7 mags i think and also has low recoil making it extremely easy to beam at mid ranges. Reduce the mags and maybe increase the initial kick higher or increase the horizontal recoil.

ripe jackal
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I'd agree with a mag reduction. Though idk if I'd agree with recoil changes tbh, it's designed irl to do what it does in game. Maybe first shot kick though?

sick glen
ripe jackal
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The min max could still be reduced some. Or a heavier slow down for stacking more mags

daring geyser
coral tapir
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Or maybe add shotguns so theres something to comparable at close range sine rn the vector is pretty much the best smg there is

pine urchin
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ASVAL kills faster than the vector funny thing

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at closer range

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vector beats the ASVAL in range tho

ripe jackal
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Hm, that doesn't feel right ahah

pine urchin
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imo all the SMG's should be buffed instead near to the vector
but reduce range alot

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ASVAL 100% needs a patch tho

late mirage
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i know this game is not about realism
but the kriss vector is designed to have minimal recoil irl
thats the weird block behind the mag

ripe jackal
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Its literally designed to do what it does in game lool
That's why I try and defend it's effectiveness like I do, I'm absolutely a simp for the Vector, but only because I love the gun IRL and in the games I play. To change that around might balance the game, but that's straight up changing a weapons features to make it fit in the game. It'd be like making the M16A1 ONLY burst fire to balance it. Like sure you could, but then you've removed the thing that makes the weapon unique just to fit in the game. There has to be a better way of balancing other than crippling what makes some guns feel special so they're more in line with guns that have basic and simple designs on purpose.

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This part gets a bit too IRL, gun nerd for most people, and what the game cares about. But the reasons some guns are designed to not be special is so they are practical without being complex. Specialist like weapons are designed with fitting a very specific role, and being amazing at that role.
Like the AK-47, its got three modes. Safe, Semi, Full auto. It's designed in a way that you could theoretically use Stamped metal to piece one together. Made so that no matter what some brain dead grunt dropped it in, it could still shoot, or at least have a cheap part replacement. Are they great for a full mobilized military? No, not really. Are they great for insurgencies without access to parts? Absolutely. You wouldn't equip insurgents with Vectors, nor would you field a modern army with outdated firearms.

sick glen
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(Let's have sweet love in the bathtub, toaster)

ripe jackal
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What frictionless world do you live in where something has 0 recoil xD

solid crystal
ripe jackal
solid crystal
ripe jackal
solid crystal
ripe jackal
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Must be me

safe briar
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Bruh, the whole existence of the vector is that he has no recoil in life, stop crying.

ripe jackal
safe briar
ripe jackal
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Oh fuck lol ahaha you picked the wrong time not to have a reply on your comment loool

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Sorry dude wrong time wrong place ahaha

maiden vigil
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in my opinion Vector should have 25 bullets at default and 35 , 45 for extended.

solid crystal
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Fall off would fix all the issues with the gun

ripe jackal
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It'd hurt but I agree. If accuracy is kept then at least you could still hit people at range, even if it took 20 hits xD