#C4 toss + plop TOO Strong

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muted cave
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Having discussed the respect to sniper players being sent to another planet. We are now to discuss the implications of toss + plop C4. Its dumb, you dont just grab c4 out of your back pocket and have as many charges as you want in your hands ready to immediately throw, and as long as something is blocking the LOS you dont die as you immediately detonate said charges.

This speeds up the gameplay that is not fun or engaging. If a sniper can't at least cripple when delivering a torso shot or be able to increase dmg via unlocks to 1-shot to torso because reasons. Then absolutely need a rework to C4 as it is arguably the most overpowered resource in the game vs the whole of sniper class being underpowered.

wraith arrow
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what the fuck are you on about

muted cave
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With this logic i want to spam grenades/smokes/flashbangs at the same speed as C4 throws.

wraith arrow
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grenades go further

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problem solved

muted cave
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Ehh you clownin m8 if you gonna get angry dont reply

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Either participate of get out

wraith arrow
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I am

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I'm calling your suggestion or feedback or whatever the fuck this is completely nonsensical

muted cave
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Im ready HyperXD for all the rage

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My argument is clearly in the topic. Adds an overpowered mechanic to already fast gameplay. Is highly unrealistic and just COPIED from battlefield mechanics. Why? Because its a made up scenario of using C4 that only the devs of Battlefield could make up. Sure it was fun but C4 just hits too close to home with battlefield. It should be reworked and require more than a brick wall to protect you form your own devices

wraith arrow
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"no."

muted cave
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Blocked XD

wraith arrow
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imagine being the kind of moron that unironically wants 1hit bodyshot kills with bolt-actions

wanton raptor
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i dont even get people that see a problem in not one shotting
you just did 70 damage to someone, you will get the assist and make it so a teammate can one tap them with ARs
its not a big loss

muted cave
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The issue is with the mechanics of C4 and how it is hyper-meta when securing kills. It is good response to tanks albeit still overpowered. The use to get kills after using 'meta gun here' to get other kills is nonsensical completely. Especially so, when you can put a wall between you and still be with 5m of the blast radius and live without any damage taken. On top of this you dont have to prepare C4, and you have as many C4 ready-to-go as you are carrying. Also since it is being used like a 'short range grenade' - Wavefront , grenades, flash, smoke all switch you back to your main weapon with a delay between using another - there should be some arming mechanic to C4 to prevent abusing on players. Cherry on top, we ALL KNOW this is a copy+paste mechanic from battlefield series. Im in favor of discussing changes to C4 mechanics so its not part of the meta game to be battlefield copy

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AS FAR AS THE REFERENCE TO SNIPERS - it is only a comparison to underpowered gameplay that has consumed an entire class that a majority in the feedback of that discussion felt is 'in a good place' vs C4 mechanics attribute to a hyper-meta thats way too close to battlefield copy

wanton raptor
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the short range grenade maybe, but at the same time c4 has a lower blast damage radius
however you can always rightclick with a grenade and a jump throw is about the same range as a c4 throw

dense arch
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sniper isn't underpowered, its a skill issue.

cinder plume
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I thought blue and yellow wear stupids.

supple sequoia
hallow hull
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C4 is like almost non lethal unless you basically stick it on their feet

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Is very funni HyperXD

muted cave
supple sequoia
# muted cave Its called discussion. If you dont add anything to the conversation then its not...

lmao are you guys getting these debate tactics off a forum or something? you all say the exact same shit. look, you said you don't like the c4. he said what are you on about. idk how many real conversations you've ever been in but i can tell you that responding to what someone says with "what are you talking about" essentially asking for clarification, is a normal thing. this is called the flow of conversation. you then elaborated which is again how conversations goes so good job. saying "With this logic i want to spam grenades/smokes/flashbangs at the same speed as C4 throws" to which he responded nades go farther which if you know context clues i would imagine you could understand is his counter point to why c4 and nades are not the same and that the disadvantage of being able to throw them fast is you have to be very close to use them. that was a direct and on topic response to something you said. a counter point. which is fucking conversation and participation then you said "Either participate of get out" can you really not see that?

muted cave
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This is not my first encounter with Wavefront in one of these discussions, but nice try

wraith arrow
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exkane is basically shit

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that's really all you have to know

steady palm
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None of this is really a valid argument

grizzled oyster
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if someones complaining again that snipers dont 1 tap to the chest maybe you should be aiming head instead of an armored torso.

clever crag
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C4 doesn't add speed to the game. The game itself is fast paced, so C4 should be as fast to be even remotely useful in things other that trying to play catch the tanks ass while it driving away from you. If you don't like the pacing then just wait for hardcore. As for sniper rifles not being able to oneshot to torso: it would be too overpowered in close range encounters, a.k.a encounters in which snipers should be at a disadvantage. Besides, nobody would want to be oneshot from a mile away without any real ability to retaliate either. As it stands now sniper rifles are in a good spot, they can oneshot if you aim at the head (well besides funny helment cases, but alas) and even if you will miss and hit the torso you would inflict enough damage to the enemy and force him to heal or get picked off with one bullet from any AR, you would also get that assist which would count as a kill.

steady palm
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^

sudden sedge
wraith arrow
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basically he's just mad because he's bad

hallow hull
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Probably malding from c4 wall bang

cinder plume
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I love blowing up enemies that are behind the walls.

wraith arrow
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same

glacial thunder
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Hey guys, please keep the discussion friendly and level headed. Personal attacks and toxicity isn't necessary to get your point across. Thanks.

wraith arrow
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yeah exkane keep it level-headed bro

glacial thunder
wraith arrow
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so true

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my boy got ratio'd tho 😔