Stop with the playtests and aim for getting at least one server up and running for good. Play tests are just gonna kill off the game. Already have seen people stop caring for this because of the push of just constant play tests and not anything else. The entire point of a beta Is for constant feedback and knowledge on the issues for a game as it provides constant availability to play the game amongst any time zone or country. Playtests should only be a thing to make sure said thing functions while adding it. we do not need constant playtests, we just need beta to release, or one server.
#Playtests
tranquil snow
sacred basin
give oki the money for that and i’m sure he’d do it
sterile mural
give oki the money for that and i’m sure he’d do it
sacred basin
but there’s reasons he doesn’t , and it’s cause he needs to watch over the tests as they happen and he needs time to develop stuff for the game , and adding only one server that only 245 people could play at a time would be a bad idea for the thousands wanting to play and would not make people wanna play since the one server would always be full
iron elbow
Stop with the playtests and aim for getting at least one server up and running f...
Wouldn't matter how it's done, game isn't going into Early Access until Mar-Apr
wide lava
the game isn't in beta
iron elbow
So, you're not gonna get it any faster, either way
tranquil snow
Wouldn't matter how it's done, game isn't going into Early Access until Mar-Apr
Thus the issue, wasnt the game supposed to be release in end of 2022?
sterile mural
No?
tranquil snow
why give a date on beta when your not gonna follow up
yes?
ive heard countless people shit on it about that
unless we're all gonna forget it
sacred basin
they aimed for it but never confirmed it
wide lava
they were planning on realeasing in 2022
tranquil snow
so thats what theyll call it when march or april
playtests arent worth it just push for beta
sullen kernel
You act like this is a huge dev studio.
sacred basin
bro give them the money and they will 😭
wide lava
but considering he took a while to implement eac
sterile mural
It’s three guys mainly!
tranquil snow
ive gave them money 😭
wide lava
then tons of server stuff
iron elbow
Thus the issue, wasnt the game supposed to be release in end of 2022?
No, it was pushed back, had you read #bbr-news , you'd know that
sacred basin
ive gave them money 😭
they need a lot 🤷🏻♂️
tranquil snow
gave up on news in this game
wide lava
also no one said of 2022
tranquil snow
as 90% of it is just playtests
which do absolutely nothing
for the game
that a beta wouldnt
wide lava
I argue that playtests are better
wide lava
I like that that's the time I play
sacred basin
they aren’t for the player they are for the game
wide lava
and that's when everyone is on
sacred basin
lmao
wide lava
I do know some people who aren't gonna play till ea
which made more sense back when you'd wait a month for a 3 day playtest only for it to get cancelled 20 minutes in due to servers not working
tranquil snow
and now what do you wait for a 30 min playtest?
wide lava
I do not wait
tranquil snow
where eventually the servers stop working
wide lava
I play when servers up
I do that for other games
you schedule when you gonna play and play then
I know that a certain event happens same time every week
tranquil snow
you have to fit said schedule around when a 30 min playtest is up
and even with that
there will always be a conflict
whether the servers dont work or servers are full
wide lava
I mean it's bad for people who's timezones it doesn't fit
iron elbow
Yes, the Playtest are to find bug, test fixes & new content, they are not for our enjoyment specifically, that's just the bonus by-product we get
wide lava
whether the servers dont work or servers are full
those haven't been a problem in months
tranquil snow
Yes, the Playtest are to find bug, test fixes & new content, they are not for o...
thats what a beta is for
wide lava
also oki didn't want this many people playing the tests
sterile mural
IMO “releasing a game which will need to be updated on steam every 2 to 6 days and constantly have server up and down for every problem Oki alone has to work on, would waste all the money his supporting community has given to the game!
tranquil snow
and not for a limit
wide lava
he got way more people than he wanted before the game was ready
wide lava
hiring is not an option
tranquil snow
thats theyre problem then
wide lava
unless you want stuff delayed
sacred basin
because you can play at any time you want
well it’s for the dev team not the players , they need the game working not for player enjoyment
wide lava
a lot
tranquil snow
well it’s for the dev team not the players , they need the game working not for ...
beta would offer way more to the dev team then playtests
and at nobodys expense
iron elbow
thats what a beta is for
Not been around many alpha/betas have you, they work differently for different game and companies
sacred basin
beta would offer way more to the dev team then playtests
and cost way more
tranquil snow
and cost way more
like you all said they didnt expect this much from people
they can afford it if it exceeded expetations
sterile mural
and at nobodys expense
Um. The devs have to pay for the server to run a Beta build of the game, meaning all the cash you and the other donated would be washed out in A week.
sacred basin
steam holds funds for 2 months , if they don’t have funds put aside for 2 months of servers they can’t do it ….
sterile mural
steam holds funds for 2 months , if they don’t have funds put aside for 2 months...
What he said
iron elbow
Again, your assumptions are wrong, more people, means more servers, more servers, means more money is required
tranquil snow
Um. The devs have to pay for the server to run a Beta build of the game, meaning...
Its not expensive to run a server even a single one
sullen kernel
yeah, that's where you're wrong
tranquil snow
steam holds funds for 2 months , if they don’t have funds put aside for 2 months...
if theyre wasting all that patreon money that fast then the games gonna crash simple
wide lava
maybe one server
but oki would get so many more complaints if there was one single server up 24/7
tranquil snow
you have one server up constant, who ever gets in gets in
sacred basin
if theyre wasting all that patreon money that fast then the games gonna crash si...
they aren’t
wide lava
like your suggestion
tranquil snow
who ever doesint, doesint
wide lava
nah
sterile mural
Its not expensive to run a server even a single one
Do you understand how much money it takes to pay for a commercial server box to run a large number of connections threw??
sullen kernel
sacred basin
who ever doesint, doesint
so limit the player base 😭 your points are so mixed now
wide lava
I don't imagine people being happy with the lets load up battlebit and see if I get to play testing model
sullen kernel
It's $50,000 per month to run the servers full time.
tranquil snow
i didnt say patreon priority
i said who ever gets in gets in
whoever doesint doesint
rich schooner
no, I'm waiting for you to eventually get to that point
rich schooner
uh huh
sacred basin
i always said limit it
you want people to play more but you want less people to play , making more people unable to wouldn’t that kill the game too ??
tranquil snow
see no point in argueing with you
your argueing the entirety of it in your mind
assuming what im gonna say
sacred basin
bad feedback
tranquil snow
playtests kill a game
half herald
see no point in argueing with you
no one sees a point arguing with you, playtests are playTESTS for a reason
sullen kernel
It's pretty easy to assume what you're going to say ngl
rich schooner
???
tranquil snow
i havent seen a single game that has made it have done playtests
half herald
playtests kill a game
how could it kill a game that hasnt released
iron elbow
So, bring up 1 server, so 250 players can have fun, and 50k+ are left salty... how's that gonna help the game?
tranquil snow
games in beta
die constantly
??
this games not even in beta
what do you think thats gonna do to it
sacred basin
it’s not a big team either
tranquil snow
like i said ive already seen people quit the game
sacred basin
3 guys
half herald
i havent seen a single game that has made it have done playtests
almost every game does QA playtesting, not public playtests 🤯
iron elbow
This one's who can't play, are gonna come on here, complaining they can't play
half herald
and they refuse to go bigger
that means paying more, which they cant. none of them have made money from this game
sacred basin
like i said ive already seen people quit the game
people can quit the game , not everyone has to play forever ???
sterile mural
i havent seen a single game that has made it have done playtests
BBR is the first in a long time that’s for sure
sacred basin
a failed project before
no a project that never released 💀
sullen kernel
Battlebit was 2016, BBR was 2017
half herald
its been rewritten? never failed or released
tranquil snow
whens this one gonna get another remaster?
sacred basin
that was redone, god you know nothing do you
tranquil snow
bit off more they can chew and theyre gonna flop
sullen kernel
I mean he's outed himself as a troll... Could just archive thread
rich schooner
uh that's exactly what the playtests are for lmao
rich schooner
hm yes today I think Ill doompost about playtests killing a game
sacred basin
seeing as betas constantly kill games
so you want betas but they kill games ???? bro wtf are you saying rn
tranquil snow
this has nothing to do with politcs but a game
sterile mural
this wont be any different
When your nerd glasses are so tight to your face that you can’t see the facts anymore.
tranquil snow
games in betas where theyre in betas for too long
literally kill a gasme
you can do the research
sullen kernel
this has nothing to do with politcs but a game
No one mentioned politics, lol
rich schooner
"betas kill games so I want BB to go to early access so it doesn't die"
tranquil snow
whats gonna happen when this games in playtesting phase for too long
iron elbow
Not the "Whomst I'm trolling that day"
People only read, what they want to see... Which is how we got here in the 1st place
sacred basin
bruh once again another shit post in #1019712628970508338
rich schooner
presumably the kinks will get ironed out so the game can be released
tranquil snow
this is feedback
the fact you cant accept it as
isnt my problem
youll only have to wait and see
sullen kernel
this is feedback
Sure it's feedback, but it's not constructive at all.
tranquil snow
either im going to be proven wrong and this game will make into beta and release
rich schooner
your feedback indicates severe mental deficiency
sterile mural
whats gonna happen when this games in playtesting phase for too long
It’s been in play test for years man it’s gone in and out of attention countless times I’ve heard this all. Every game has its up and downs.
tranquil snow
or im going to be proven right and this game will never get out
see thats another issue with this game
iron elbow
Ok, so you've said your feedback, let's all stop, and see where it goes
tranquil snow
communitys already toxic and cant resolve a arguement without herling insults
makes nobody want to be apart of it either
you can all call me wrong when the game releases and insult me and ill take it and accept it
sacred basin
all you’ve said is the games gonna flop , who tf would just agree
tranquil snow
been in development too long
sterile mural
makes nobody want to be apart of it either
While I do seriously agree that some offer stomp out others in this community, and they are toxic as F. This isn’t a channel for making that argument.
sullen kernel
WW3 is a game no one really wanted or needed.
sacred basin
been in development too long
3 devs one coder ??? you want this shit done in a week?
rich schooner
didn't ww3 flop because people played it, it wasn't great, and people refunded
tranquil snow
like i said 3 devs is their issue
they refuse to grow
if theyre project only grows and grows
while they dont grow their team
sacred basin
ok biggie will make the game better himself guys let him on the team
sullen kernel
WW3 flopped because you can just play Battlefield.
sterile mural
they refuse to grow
No Oki doesn’t want someone making mistakes on “his” games code.
sullen kernel
You could honestly have this discussion with yourself since you're not getting anything from here through your skull.
sacred basin
also oki wrote the code himself so hiring another will mean he has to take time to train them and that will only take longer
tranquil snow
im not gonna get anything through from insults simple
why would i
you have to insult me for your arguement because you cant with anything else
why would i want to take your arguement after that
tranquil snow
also oki wrote the code himself so hiring another will mean he has to take time ...
maybe but that will have the progress of the game be done faster in the long run
sullen kernel
How did I insult you, I'm stating a fact, you haven't listened to anyone here. You just wanted to spark an argument/outrage.
sullen kernel
You've been repeating the same point.
tranquil snow
because thats the arguement
sullen kernel
That's not how you argue, the person that's louder doesn't mean they're right.
tranquil snow
how am i louder
im in the minority here
i had to argue with 7 of you at once
?
sullen kernel
half herald
XD
tranquil snow
hows that repeating the same point right there
the point of having to argue with several of you
sullen kernel
...
tranquil snow
now your repeating the same point
sullen kernel
Honestly there's no point in engaging in this.
tranquil snow
like ??
flat marlin
🍿
tranquil snow
ignorance is bliss with you
iron elbow
Right, the game will come out when it's ready, and not before
half herald
arguing with multiple people is obviously the goal
tranquil snow
its not
half herald
???
woven hearth
or im going to be proven right and this game will never get out
wat
tranquil snow
???
rich schooner
yeah clearly it's killing the game
woven hearth
this game is already better than most fps out right now
tranquil snow
the goal is to tell you the game will most likely flop in its playtest phase
rich schooner
that's why every playtest there's fewer and fewer people
half herald
i mean you pledged money?
tranquil snow
because i like the idea and project
sullen kernel
the goal is to tell you the game will most likely flop in its playtest phase
Its in it's playtest phase now?
rich schooner
😔
flat marlin
that's why every playtest there's fewer and fewer people
yo what, last time I struggled joining any server
tranquil snow
doesint mean i dont have the right to critize it
woven hearth
well it hasnt "flopped" during their free playtest
rich schooner
it's over boys battlebit died
half herald
because i like the idea and project
then play the playtests and stop saying how the game is dead
sullen kernel
it's over boys battlebit died
Before it even launched.
rich schooner
the playtests.... they killed the game.........
woven hearth
you have the right to say what ever you want, doesn't mean its correct lmao
half herald
look at player charts 💀
tranquil snow
i didnt say the game was dead
rich schooner
😔
tranquil snow
cant argue with people who cant read the point
half herald
with thousands of players
woven hearth
the goal is to tell you the game will most likely flop in its playtest phase
replying off this statement
tranquil snow
you do understand how many games die in beta
wide lava
the will die if the game is realeased in a bad state
tranquil snow
because they never release
wide lava
this is why we have playtest
rich schooner
tell you what actually will kill the game: not sorting out proper scalability and playability before EA, which is what the playtests are in service of
half herald
i understand that games die in beta, this game can die but that doesnt mean it will
woven hearth
thank you biggie for stating something that we already knew
"games can die"
i didnt know that
tranquil snow
so why are you getting so upset about it when i said this game could die
if you knew of the possibility
half herald
i didnt know that
celebratory party for him XD
rich schooner
you know what game could've used more playtests? BF2042
woven hearth
why are you assuming im getting upset?
am i knocking on your door trying to kill you lmao?
tranquil snow
is that being upset to you?
woven hearth
no im commenting in discord
half herald
if you knew of the possibility
you wanted a 24/7 server of a game that isnt ready? that would show a worse side of a game that isnt 100% stable 100% of the time
you dont even know your own points
woven hearth
quite the jumo for you biggie
tranquil snow
you know what a beta is for right?
woven hearth
stop assuming and garner some knowledge
sullen kernel
This isn't beta
half herald
this game isnt in beta
tranquil snow
i never said that
woven hearth
it'll help you in the future
half herald
i understand the concept, of course
woven hearth
we are playtesting the game weekly
tranquil snow
you claim i repeat my points and i will never see any of yours
woven hearth
you know for what reason?
tranquil snow
but none of you actualyl read what im saying
and prefer to type something before thinking on it
half herald
i have been trying to understand you this entire time
woven hearth
biggie, we have read everything you have written
im sorry if your words dont stick the way you want them too
half herald
you are making it very hard for us
flat marlin
you know what game could've used more playtests? BF2042
.
That was a real shitshow, be glad the devs are doing playtests here.
rich schooner
😏
woven hearth
what are you gonna do? all you can do is not buy their games
rich schooner
what's the matter? don't like bugs bro? it's a BaTtLeFiELd MoMenT
half herald
That was a real shitshow, be glad the devs are doing playtests here.
great way to put it
woven hearth
maximizing profits is what these big companies are all aboiut
flat marlin
I voted with not buying it right away, cant trust EA these days
In fact I didn't buy it at all lol
woven hearth
once ppl stop buying their games and actually lose money on release. maybe they'll change their business model
iron elbow
you claim i repeat my points and i will never see any of yours
Ok, here the points.. the game is not ready for release yet, more stuff is being added, it will be out in to Early Access in Mar-Apr
woven hearth
haven't bought an ea game in years, and i dont plan on doing so until they release a good game
flat marlin
Last one I bought was BF1 back in the early covid years afaik
sullen kernel
@iron elbow Do you know if the game will retain a testing branch after EA release?
woven hearth
i didnt even get that one, i loved hardcore, when i found out they took it out of the game BF died for me.
iron elbow
I have no information on that
woven hearth
last one i played was Bf4
woven hearth
i play bc2 from time to time but hard to find good lobbies
half herald
I voted with not buying it right away, cant trust EA these days
are you thinking of Early Access or Electronic Arts? 
flat marlin
i didnt even get that one, i loved hardcore, when i found out they took it out o...
Personal preference, the atmosphere in BF1 was amazing imo.
overall good gunplay, was more laid back, I know than the usual bf games
woven hearth
Personal preference, the atmosphere in BF1 was amazing imo.
i agree i loved the vibe and the atmosphere. I just love war sims and hate having to dump bullets into a person
sullen kernel
I won't disagree with Biggie's point stating the community here is toxic. 85% of the discussions I've either started or hopped into resulted in either insults or lack on constructive criticism. There's a very prominent lack of empathy here.
half herald
I won't disagree with Biggie's point stating the community here is toxic. 85% of...
unfortunately that's how the internet has gone
rich schooner
or maybe your suggestions aren't as good as you think they are
sullen kernel
or maybe your suggestions aren't as good as you think they are
case and point.
sullen kernel
unfortunately that's how the internet has gone
That's not really true. You can find many communities that are less hostile. This is the worst I've seen in the 120+ servers I've been in.
rich schooner
there's only so far constructive criticism will take you
sullen kernel
there's only so far constructive criticism will take you
It takes you pretty far.
rich schooner
if your suggestions are consistently being met with hostility that's an indication that they may not be very good
I don't know if I've read any of them myself
I could just as easily say that 85% of what gets posted as a suggestion or as feedback is utterly deranged
this very thread is an excellent example
sullen kernel
if your suggestions are consistently being met with hostility that's an indicati...
They're not... but saying stuff like "skill issue" to something someone considers an issue is dismissive of a possible problem. Just because it doesn't affect you doesn't mean it wont affect part of the playerbase. It's also disrespectful because you're not even taking their idea into account or seeing it from their perspective, you're just dismissing it outright because it's something you don't want.
When I give feedback to a suggestion or a discussion I ask myself: "Where are they coming from?" "How would this affect X set of players?". I then write what I like or would change about their idea, formulate a compromise that takes x set of players into account, etc.
rich schooner
or it's a pointless gripe that someone's making because they're bad
sullen kernel
Even if they're bad, their opinion is still valid.
rich schooner
no, because appealing to the lowest common denominator for every problem is a big mistake
sullen kernel
Correct, but you should still take them into account. If you ignore newer or low skill players entirely, that's how your game stops growing and dies.
sterile mural
You have bad, then you have below bad, you have troll, don’t give trolls your mental energy. Everyone else gets a consideration.
rich schooner
there's literally some dude who wants snipers to be a 1-hit body shot kill because he can't seem to hit heads
sullen kernel
He's not calling you a troll Wave, just so you know.
rich schooner
there's another that thinks DMRs should have the same damage profile as a bolt-action
sullen kernel
In that case give them advice on how to be a better sniper, if they're not receptive at all, its not worth the time, just downvote it.
rich schooner
He's not calling you a troll Wave, just so you know.
I'm aware
sterile mural
there's literally some dude who wants snipers to be a 1-hit body shot kill becau...
This! This is just lack of time played, also armor. Armor is dumb and rubs snipers of headshots. Not everyone understands right out of the gate how armor works. Not even the game is consistent with armor.
rich schooner
In that case give them advice on how to be a better sniper, if they're not recep...
"aim better"
≈
"your aim is not good enough"
≈
"skill issue"
rich schooner
This! This is just lack of time played, also armor. Armor is dumb and rubs snipe...
it is now
sullen kernel
Instead of saying skill issue, be more specific.
rich schooner
"you suck at aiming my dude and this change would be deplorable" doesn't quite have the same ring to it
sterile mural
In that case give them advice on how to be a better sniper, if they're not recep...
This should only apply to DMR with designs for super high damage mid range combat. But those aren’t added yet so I’ll shh.
sullen kernel
This should only apply to DMR with designs for super high damage mid range comba...
A semi automatic weapon having the same damage profile as a bolt action is not a good idea because the semi automatic weapons would outclass the bolt actions entirely.
sterile mural
"you suck at aiming my dude and this change would be deplorable" doesn't quite h...
I prefer the savage long answers to the cringe two word ones.
rich schooner
skill issue
😎
it's only right to meet thoughtless myopic suggestions with short and snappy dismissals
they clearly didn't put very much thought into it, why should anyone put thought into the dismissal?
sullen kernel
"Sniping is hard and is meant to be hard because it's an incredibly powerful skill to master. Making it easier would make gameplay for standard infantrymen less fun, and reduce the skill ceiling of sniping which many tend to enjoy the climb to.
sterile mural
So can we som up this whole thread as “skill issue and dismiss it from existence?”
rich schooner
this whole thread is some sort of ridiculous fever dream
rich schooner
"Sniping is hard and is meant to be hard because it's an incredibly powerful ski...
and when the same or very similar suggestion crops up time and time again, will you have the patience to rebut it as eloquently each time?
sullen kernel
I'm just trying to improve the community here, and having a chat. I know I'm not really making a difference but I want to get the point across.
sullen kernel
and when the same or very similar suggestion crops up time and time again, will ...
Go to the last thread and screenshot it.
sterile mural
"Sniping is hard and is meant to be hard because it's an incredibly powerful ski...
Yes in I’ll seriousness I think sniping right now is fine. I just want an ASP to fuck with AS Val nerds.
rich schooner
glintshitters make a post what feels like every single playtest about how it's unfair that high-powered scopes have a visible glint
vague night
just shoot people lol
sullen kernel
My issue with glint is just that it's ugly, I don't even snipe.
rich schooner
conveniently forgetting that being able to sit 600 meters away is also pretty unfair
a thoughtless and myopic (ironic) gripe that is repeated ad nauseam
sullen kernel
TBF hitting anything at that distance is difficult, and if you're standing still, you deserve to get sniped.
rich schooner
TBF hitting anything at that distance is difficult, and if you're standing still...
it's not, and I say that as a recon player
I never use anything higher than a 4x
sullen kernel
That moment when you realize windows magnifier is the same as an 8x
rich schooner
the only thing wrong with the current sniping model is that the m200 has precisely zero drawbacks whatsoever but is uniquely powerful in more than one way
sullen kernel
I can see that being an issue. I haven't sniped enough to know though.
rich schooner
if memory serves you've got a projectile velocity 300 m/s faster than the next in line, the damage is such that it is the only gun in the game that can kill an exo helmet support in one shot, and it has competitive stats in all other respects
there is no actual reason to use any other rifle in the game for sniping
hasty cove
the game isn't in beta
it alredy in beta tho 🗿
rich schooner
using anything else is simply stubborn flexing or an attempt to be special; I should know, since I exclusively use the L96
sullen kernel
I would like to see vehicle optics being able to take damage, like in WW3. Recon could have AMRs for an AT option. AMRs could have heavy drop and long reloads. They would not bodyshot in 1, but would do significant damage to chest. the AMRs would also provide some needed variety to the recon class.
Maybe they could also pop tires.
sterile mural
Oki would have to code all that to work as a new gear for recon. thats a lot of time used on making recon more useful, then everyone needs to get something new as well.
rich schooner
I've got all the anti-material capability I need with my C4
sullen kernel
Assault needs some love... I don't agree that assault needs utility, a basic class would be nice. If you took ARs away from Engi and Medic, then buffed them. Assault would be more enticing as the "push" class.
hasty cove
it alredy in beta tho 🗿
sullen kernel
o.o
rich schooner
Assault needs some love... I don't agree that assault needs utility, a basic cla...
yeah giving ARs to both medic and engie feels weird if you want assault to have its own identity
sterile mural
Nice photo shop 69 head 
hasty cove
Nice photo shop 69 head <:kat:962240983695757312>
ok 🤓
i dont even have photoshop 😭
nor i could use it
sterile mural
But i bet you wish you could tho. Then again Photo shop steals peoples stuff so maybe don't do that.
sterile mural
you can see that on your screen ingame
I figured thats what he screen shot but its on a blank back ground, So i thought 'OH funny joke time."
wide lava
it alredy in beta tho 🗿
oops
hasty cove
i could learn it if i wanted to but i dont think its worth it for me im not creative at all
sterile mural
Bet
"Local man makes millions on taking BBR screenshots and photoshopping them into works of art."
This is a legit thing btw.
rich schooner
battlebit nfts when
sterile mural
When Ok unbans the NFT boys who tried to NFT the shit out of BBR last year.
Oki, if i remember correctly, said He hated NFT's and would never allow anything kin to them near his project. Also Steam would have to remove BBR from its store as they have a strick no NFT thing going on as of last year too.
rich schooner
powerful
sterile mural
honestly a safe move, NFT's have suddenly become toxic. All content related to them is starting to get really cancer ridden.
rich schooner
they were always cancer
hallow aurora
I love suggestions
woven hearth
I won't disagree with Biggie's point stating the community here is toxic. 85% of...
This is true, every thread I click on is toxic energy and people arguing.
sterile mural
This is true, every thread I click on is toxic energy and people arguing.
Not including Timoruz in this, but most of those toxic people that aren't helpful at all. Payed for the game already threw patron. Just a pattern, i've noticed, its not a fact.
woven hearth
Interesting, maybe some buyers remorse.
rich schooner
how do you reach that conclusion
sterile mural
buyers elitisms IMO But that's not true for all of them. I planned on donating to the game just to see the game have as little a chance to fall as possible thre funds. (yet Oki turned down my Damn offer of A 20 Trillion dollar deal. Cause me bad luck and the deal was put on hold now I have to work. In Florida. DO YOU KNOW WHAT LIVES IN FLORIDA?! Florida people thats what.
sterile mural
how do you reach that conclusion
How did* Its not true to everyone just a select few.
rich schooner
I'm asking how do you reach that conclusion
how does anyone reach that conclusion
I'd understand the opposite, but to say that it's buyer's remorse driving it is absurd
sterile mural
I'd understand the opposite, but to say that it's buyer's remorse driving it is ...
I was about to go way to introspective for a moment then you clarified, WOOOOW dodged a bullet. OP of this post is a good example. donated, bashes game now caz they are miss informed, mislead, or missing some screws.
modern stratus
Its not expensive to run a server even a single one
Ok find a server provider that matches these : high frequency cpu, unmetered connection, cheap APAC rates
rich schooner
I was about to go way to introspective for a moment then you clarified, WOOOOW d...
OP is mad that he can't play the game more often and resorts to inane bullshit to vent his frustrations
sterile mural
thats fair
rich schooner
I can imagine a lot of the orangeposter responses to some of the suggestions are the result of patreon supporters liking what they had enough to "buy" the game already and don't see the changes as positive
woven hearth
how do you reach that conclusion
Spitballing nothing serious.
sullen kernel
Interesting, maybe some buyers remorse.
I don't think it's buyer's remorse. I think it's more likely that the invested or sweaty players are likely to donate to the game, since they're invested.
humble thunder
I really don’t understand the “put up one server” stance. One server would hold a max of 254 players. Which means if that one server is full, no one that isn’t already in would be able to play.
So you’d just have to sit in server browser endlessly trying to get in. Imagine thousands of people trying to do this.
Versus what we have now, tons of servers everyone can join multiple times throughout the week as we continue development to actually release the game into EA.
sterile mural
I really don’t understand the “put up one server” stance. One server would hold ...
THIS^^ but not only this. The server's are subject to attacks often and making one single target for them to focus on means they server will come down by external forces within minutes. Along with the unintended effect of SO MANY ip's trying to connect to one address at once, it be like a DOS attack!
humble thunder
Then it would be “put up more servers 24/7” - which basically would translate to “release the game right now”
And it’s not ready to be released
sterile mural
Still has the heli's framework to get worked out, tweaks on the new boats and how they work, fixing some issues with classes being broken in playtests screwing with Data per play test. It still has some work to go threw and Im NOT an avid Dev for Unity and I can see those being some issues that need working on over time.
Oh also the hole in security with Steam allowing aim assist threw its back end controller confie stuff, that need some addressing. lol. Love getting auto sniped by people with scripted controllers. (I dont actually know how that all works or if Oki already has some net to catch that issue.)
iron elbow
Then it would be “put up more servers 24/7” - which basically would translate to...
I already told him this, like twice now, and they didn't pay any attention..
sterile mural
So this thread is done yeah?
iron elbow
Seems so
sterile mural
did we gleam anything from this??
rich schooner
nothing we didn't already know
hollow ember
playtests kill a game
The playtest is not for you to have fun. It’s for the devs to test out the game before early access
hollow ember
games in beta
So basically what you are saying is everyone being able to play the game for a few hours every couple days is going to kill the game but one single server (which probably isn’t as good for testing either) where you have a 1 in 160 chance of getting into a server would magically keep the game alive? Stop acting like you somehow know more then the dev who I would very much guess thinks about this game a lot
silk jackal
I regret reading this post OP actually gave me brainrot
loud quarry
Backer, regular, tester, programmer or visitor...the playtests are all we have until release. If some folks lose interest and stop playing because of this, that's okay...life goes on and the rest of us will patiently await release. Nothing of quality is ever created by rushing the process.
halcyon socket
did we gleam anything from this??
Humanity is doomed and there is no going back
fossil ermine
I'm gonna buy this game twice even though I already backed it. GIVE ME GIVE ME
next shard
Backer, regular, tester, programmer or visitor...the playtests are all we have u...
now if only more people understood that about projects like Star Citizen ^_^
brave trail
give oki the money for that and i’m sure he’d do it
woven hearth
This game rips, I have a blast everytime I'm on.
crimson hedge
I feel like if it did come out today or within the next week it would easily earn enough money to run the servers, sense everyone whos stuck around loves and likes the game and a few big youtubers have been making videos on it, so i can see why some people want it to release,though i would say just to wait until the decide to release the game if people really enjoy it they will stick around until then and buy it
modern stratus
I feel like if it did come out today or within the next week it would easily ear...
Steam locks revenue for around two months so they’d run out of money keeping servers up before they’d get their money from steam
halcyon socket
TIL. Maybe Oki can push out a cosmetic Patreon tier for the 2 months? Label it early access supporter or something
soft steeple
but there’s reasons he doesn’t , and it’s cause he needs to watch over the tests...
2b2t reference
sacred basin
2b2t reference
what...
wide lava
2b2t always has a massive queue
sacred basin
gotcha
cerulean trellis
which do absolutely nothing
Oh so you know how to develop games and code? you seem to know a lot. what kills off a game are people like you complaining unnecessarily.
tranquil snow
holy fuck this happened months ago why the fuck are you bothering to respond,