What is the purpose of LMG or SMG in this game. Currently SMG can laser at 50-100m in just a couple of bullets meanwhile the LMG cant hit anything except a barn past 75m and you need 4-5 hits to kill anything. LMG are meant to be a suppression WITH DEADLY FORCE not hail of bullets that feel like nerf darts. SMG can outsprint everyone and have the highest fire rates, so run and gun. Fix LMG so we can hold points with accuracy not just a tracer barrage for the sniper to insta kill.
#Gun Balancing
lean temple
hallow cliff
I've been mostly playing support recently and I've gotta agree. I'd like to see the LMG heavily nerfed at close range and substantially buffed at mid to long range. I would love if the developers took some queues from Hell Let Loose which I think nails the feel of an LMG. In HLL hipfiring an LMG feels like a clumsy, desperate act and puts you at a massive disadvantage in close quarters combat. The LMG's also get very stable bipods that make you laser accurate so long as your properly set up.
faint tartan
honestly the Kriss Vector rn i feel is like an instakill weapon if you run into a close quarters scenario and in a game where TTK is nearly instant, its fucking horseshit.
im not saying nerf it out right but it does kill game flow runnin up to a guy with a Kriss Vector
lean temple
Its most of the SMG list but all day has been death to vectors and the PDW list. they are just over powered from point blank up to 100m.
flat yew
odd talon
Chiming in with. (Body armor was made to stop pistol caliber arounds sense World war 2) And also. "SMG have seen less combat deployed in large scale warfare sense 1960s." As two Loosely known bits of History from your average American Gamer. Just stating. ALL SMG's can stay lazer guns as that fits them. But they better take 30 rounds to brake someones helmet or armor because thats what Body armor is for. Stopping small rounds and knives and maybe some Mid sized rounds.
Both LMG's we have right now use a high velocity (Small) round which has been struggling against body armor sense 1970. Both gun types need work :\
gritty salmon
but they are not meta
Said all.
Lmgs are good, but playing support is pain, so Vector goes brr
odd talon
Said all.
Lmgs are good, but playing support is pain, so Vector goes brr
If support wasn't a weak boy, We could trade armor for Arm strength and have better standing or crouching stability when using normal armor. Heavy gear and guns are a Pain to stabilize. I know that from using 300 pounds in gun and gear 😐
gritty salmon
If support wasn't a weak boy, We could trade armor for Arm strength and have bet...
Support isn't weak, it's just way too slow
and we need to rely on our teammates taking action to get a little bit of extra exp.
odd talon
and we need to rely on our teammates taking action to get a little bit of extra ...
Teamwork? in battle bit? Not even possible. (I wish i saw my team work but VOIP has been only Dick heads trash talking or Mic spam music the last two tests.
For me. Mind you thats a personal thing that happened
gritty salmon
It's not about teamwork.
It's about relying on others to make points.
Medics don't take action and heal cuz of teamwork, they do it cuz of exp
shy musk
gritty salmon
Supports drop ammo crates for exp, but unlike medics, supports don't get exp for doing the action
odd talon
Supports get 1 EXP for bullet stopped by cover they build. 🤨
gritty salmon
Supports get 1 EXP for bullet stopped by cover they build. 🤨
No, but the assault gets exp for blocking bullets with the shield
odd talon
Add, Snipers get 1 EXP for every time someone shoots at a decoy they placed.
actually that a battlefield 1 thing, might make Snipers have a little more utility play.
little verge
I found LMG (mainly m249) with the right attachments to be amazing tbf. however Engi with SMG and maxxed move speed is kinda crazy.
twilit jewel
spamming this under every suggestion doesn't make you look like a good player 
🤡
flat yew
spamming this under every suggestion doesn't make you look like a good player <:...
The fact that you think I care about being recognized as a "good player" just underlines your clown mentality.
twilit jewel
The fact that you think I care about being recognized as a "good player" just un...
I don't see any other reasons why you would be so eager to tell everyone that they are bad
minor osprey
I've been mostly playing support recently and I've gotta agree. I'd like to see ...
unfortunately bipods dont actually function in this game and who knows if they ever will. Been confirmed from the dev that he doesnt know a way of balancing the bipod without it being OP or hot trash. If bipods actually worked in this game then the m249 would be a lot better but they just dont. Some have had success with specific attachments and positioning but they are few and far between
minor osprey
Chiming in with. (Body armor was made to stop pistol caliber arounds sense World...
I cant exactly tell if you are trying to reference real life armor and guns to specify how guns in the game should work as well as armor but so far the game does not intend to play to realism in any way. even if something in real life is X way this game will not be nerfing or buffing things based on how they are in real life.
odd talon
Not gonna argue with the above. ^^^