Most of these ships aren't built for the conditions and will fall out of the sky upon undocking.
#Venus Aerostats sell *normal* ships.
verbal canyon
verbal canyon
Give Venus a few unique ships: a genuine reactor-driven STO shuttle and freighter perhaps? Things with a minimal reactor, possibly “small” fusion fuel tanks for an hour of thrust tops?
hard shore
oof
Or the ships shouldn't BE at the aerostats, there should be an orbital waystation plus an automated shuttle service?
Basically a "parking lot and tram" system.
verbal canyon
Or the ships shouldn't BE at the aerostats, there should be an orbital waystatio...
That already exists: but just removing the ships from the aerostats would leave them with nothing but the aeroshuttles to sell.
I’d like more choices ideally. Lemme see what PASS is usin’!
hard shore
The ships for sale should be in orbit, EXCEPT the aeroshuttles. Which... unless they can be used elsewhere, like on Mars or Earth, don't seem to have a point per se...?
I mean the point of an aerostat is that it's IN the atmosphere, and a non-atmo ship shouldn't be there to begin with.
When I say "waystation", I mean an actual dedicated "parking lot" station which exists solely to service travelers going to and from the aerostats. An actual base, not just a fast-travel option.
verbal canyon
I mean the point of an aerostat is that it's IN the atmosphere, and a non-atmo s...
But there have to be “transfer ships” to get people and cargo from VORB to the aerostats.
So make one or two of ‘em and sell those instead.
Short-range fusion and atmo-capable.
hard shore
Those would be dedicated craft and probably not even for sale, so they could be abstracted like the PASS system is.
verbal canyon
That’s no fun in a game about scrapping/building dedicated craft.
hard shore
It would not likely be lore-reasonable for aerostats to sell off any such craft unless it's being decommissioned... so it would show up in the Boneyard.
verbal canyon
It would not likely be lore-reasonable for aerostats to sell off any such craft ...
So put ‘em there!
(Or sell used.)
hard shore
I mean, such craft would be core to the Venusian colonies' economy and probably not a lot being produced. I'm not against 'em being up on the aftermarket, just the idea of in-service ships of that type being for sale.
verbal canyon
That’s what the “used” market is for.
hard shore
yes, I agree
but the point of this thread was that Venus Aerostats sell normal ships that can't break out of the grav well
my point was that to address this, normal ships should be only sold in orbit at a dedicated waystation and travel to/from the aerostats from VORB could be abstracted the same way PASS is
heck, sell the used short-range torchships there too
the draw would be "it's a torch ship you can ramp up, for starting interplanetary captains on a budget"
with a decent midsized cargo space but bare-minimum initial crew life support given that it was an orbital cargo runner
Venusian merchants would make bank on refit support too
verbal canyon
my point was that to address this, normal ships should be only sold in orbit at ...
Already a thing.
The issue is that it's basically the only way to do it currently.
they don't sell aero parts nor do they sell ships that can reasonably reach VORB from the atmosphere except in ideal conditions with an optimized trajectory and a perfect pilot
and no cargo
hard shore
Okay then I misunderstood your issue.