pokemon-winds-waves

[sturdy flower]

finally unlocked the yveltal and xerneas quests

am i always gonna need 50k points for a promotion ticket?

or does it increase

[harsh oasis]

It's always 50k as far as I know

I managed a little over 100k a night when I was trying

[sturdy flower]

doesn't it cap out at 50k anyways

like, you don't get two tickets at once do you

[harsh oasis]

Well yeah

But I did a match whenever I got it

[lime void]

Friendly reminder that people were complaining about the trees in sword and shield

[harsh oasis]

Let's be honest, these games pretty frequently don't look great

But it usually doesn't matter because you're not paying too much attention to the aesthetics

[sturdy flower]

i honestly think ZA looks nice even on switch 1

[harsh oasis]

IMO: It can look really nice and if you're just saoking in the vibes while playing along, it does look pretty nice

But if you look at things it very quickly starts to look really bad

[sturdy flower]

it's not that bad man

[harsh oasis]

I mean, this is all opinionated

but it really does in my opinion

All the textures are muddy

Almost every building that isn't one you can enter looks exactly the same

Same goes for the rooftops

I don't personally think they should have made balconies and 3d stuff for the walls, it would've been hell for the already kind of janky pokemon pathfinding

But they could have at least had some details

And this is kind of nitpicky but I got really annoyed with it when I was shiny hunting that alpha whirlipede

But a fair few overhangs and tunnels bleed light thru at certain times of day

And again, these are all things that don't really affect your moment to moment gameplay, you just don't usually notice

But it does stick out sometimes

[indigo mango]

godamn finally reached mega malamar

goodbye barbaracle you have been replaced

now to find out how to evolve inkay here

imma guess its just flipping my switch

[harsh oasis]

It might

[lime void]

The fact that you have to wait longer for mega Malamar then you do for mega Dragonite is absolutely ridiculous

[harsh oasis]

No no

What's absolutely ridiculous is that you get litleo in wz 3

And pyroarite at rank a

[indigo mango]

lul like buying both charizard stones and blastoise at the store at pretty much the start of the game, while venusaur people gotta watill forever

tho

mega malamar and dragonite pretty much happen on the same day, so thats not a huge difference

you fight the rogue dragonite and then right after you unlock rank a match and fight mega malamar

[lime void]

But you can't get the Malamarite stone until you reach rank A

[indigo mango]

huh??

i thought you unlock megas after seeing em...damn

Barbaracle you have not been replaced

[harsh oasis]

Indeed

Most mega stones just become available at the next rank you get after it's introduced

Not right after

I forget when do you fight malamar?

[lime void]

You fight it when you're rank B

[harsh oasis]

Yeah so that tracks

[woeful flume]

finally got shiny scyther after like 30 ingame nights

[harsh oasis]

Yay!

Congrats

[woeful flume]

thanks im just glad it wasnt as long as shalpha gastly....

[uncut vigil]

maybe area 17 isn’t so bad

tuff mega

[woeful flume]

wish they fixed the shiny for normal pyroar

[woeful flume]

but this is dope

[uncut vigil]

this alpha saved me from going 16 phases again for a male shiny litleo

like i did in violet

[woeful flume]

i got mine in area 3 like the 2nd day when everyone figured out that you can afk, i dont like the method i just thought it would be funny if i did it lol

[radiant otter]

the haul for every shiny i found in and around zone 18 that isn’t a fennekin

total rn about 4 hours and 400 bench resets why do i have so many damn swablu

[radiant otter]

oh.

[wispy kernel]

rip

[summer flare]

bro i just

i

why did

why did they make him the absolute babygirl

||WHY IS THE MAFIA MAN BABYGIRL||

||I was so ready for cool serious guy||
||BUT CORBEAU IS JUST A DORKY LITTLE MEOW MEOW||
||HE'S JUST A GOOFY ASS SHORT KING||

PEAK. ABSOLUTE CINEMA

i love weird little freaks man

||villain fakeouts r getting sortof oldish but they really didn't try to fake it out ingame, the writing was on the wall, he's perfect||

[woeful flume]

yall doing any halloween hunts?

[summer flare]

considered it but honestly

fuck too early

i'm a little tired from my workshift

if i play when i'm tired or sorta not feeling it, i'll associate the game with my bad vibes

and stop enjoying it so much

[woeful flume]

fair

[summer flare]

BUT I want to shiny hunt Noibat, now that I have consistent sewer access

[orchid shadow]

So I was about to start my nuzlocke

[woeful flume]

bro same but im in the sewers for litwick rn and i dont have any chance for noibat here

[orchid shadow]

do we want to count each individual sectors as a different catch, or just each section (so like jaune sector 3 vs jaune section)

[summer flare]

ohhhhh my god i have another thing abt ||corbeau||

[orchid shadow]

is it that he's hot

[woeful flume]

i believe someone had made a list a few days ago and i think that said just sectors but you can always change it up to whatever you want

[orchid shadow]

yeah i was talkin with 'em but i wasnt sure if they were in chat or not

[woeful flume]

Corbeau is pretty cool, just a tsudere loan shark

[summer flare]

||when you go to the protest and fight with him I had scolipede out first, so we both just had our millipedes out||
||and he says "scolipede is pretty strong, huh"|| yeah my shiny pede is very strong btw i'm in love with you

[orchid shadow]

wow.

that was auto modded.

[woeful flume]

[orchid shadow]

that's insane that it was but w/e

[woeful flume]

im just glad they brought my boy scolipede back fr

[summer flare]

SO TRUE

AND WITH THE COLOR FIX AAAAA

[orchid shadow]

[summer flare]

im so fucking happy

also literally the moment he does this i fell in love fr like WHAT you DWEEB you did that NO PROMPTING

DID TAUNIE TEACH HIM THAT

OR IS HE NATURALLY A DWEEB

[woeful flume]

yes

[summer flare]

i wanna throw corb into a tupperware and shake him violently, affectionately

[orchid shadow]

do you see those glasses

he is a mega dweeb

[summer flare]

toxic spike glasses
saw them in shop and was like "what idiot would wear these"

[orchid shadow]

loool

[summer flare]

i bought a few pairs after finding out who

[orchid shadow]

i bought the 100k fancy slip on shoes

still dont know who wears em

[summer flare]

he does

[orchid shadow]

but i can guess who.

nah not the purple one

the black and gold one

[woeful flume]

the 100k shoes was wild

[orchid shadow]

theres multiple of those btw

[woeful flume]

i bought them while on a shopping spree and almost didnt notice

[orchid shadow]

same LOL

[summer flare]

the 100k lavender gloves in the goth shops was wild, i say as they're 90% of my outfits

[orchid shadow]

i was like "wait did those shoes just cost me 100k?" after i noticed it

[woeful flume]

i only saw the 100k white pair then the others was like 4k

[summer flare]

thats always crazy, you can tell they're like "signature" items of a character or brand

but sometimes the lavender gloves just look the best

[woeful flume]

i wish they had a more type oriented and special clothing

[summer flare]

i wish they had more damn colors

[woeful flume]

like i wanna make my guy drppy with ghost but stuck with the regular clothes and can only color match a little

[summer flare]

ignoring the lack of masc clothes issue for a second lol

[woeful flume]

fr

[tranquil nexus]

As a lover of purple I am maulding pretty hard over how they made a bunch of the purple stuff more expensive

[summer flare]

just gave up on lighter colors and started going full fem highlighter pink/white

[woeful flume]

luckily the green clothes are pretty good so im fine with my drip for now

[summer flare]

TRUE

[woeful flume]

but they better add a HUGE clothing upd

they can make this just a dress up game atp and it would be perfect

[tranquil nexus]

Yes!! I want a purple trench coat with good pants goddamnit!

Just add every color for every style

[woeful flume]

fr something for purple or just adding the option to recolor stuff

[tranquil nexus]

Add in a tailor storefront

Make it cost 500,000 to palette swap to whatever you want

[summer flare]

or fucking combine the same-model items that have the "patterned" name

[woeful flume]

the hairstyles need a upd too fr

[tranquil nexus]

Need more nb options

[summer flare]

need more non fem options

and a real skirt

[woeful flume]

the only good thing about the same clothes is that you can mix and match with them

[summer flare]

but yeah hairstyles are a must

i havent changed the actual style since the start

[tranquil nexus]

Give us some punk shit

[woeful flume]

if they make a game that they just make the customization and photo-taking abilities a really big deal then its best oat

[tranquil nexus]

I wanna meet Jacinthe with a Mohawk

[woeful flume]

dlc better add more fr

[summer flare]

i wanna have a masc hair that isnt like
three things

the pixie cut is literally the fem style

[tranquil nexus]

Wild thing TPC doesn’t have the guts to do- let us wear the Furfrou cuts

[summer flare]

LMAOOO

[woeful flume]

i cant believe they brought back the slicked back and its just a copy and paste from the last game they had it in

[woeful flume]

would be fire

[summer flare]

i literally forgot abt slick back

wait fuck

I KNEW IT

HID FERT DONT REACH THE FLORRR

[woeful flume]

LMAO

[tranquil nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-pat-gif-24957682

[summer flare]

I HAD THOS VIBE

TINIEST MAN ALIVE

[tranquil nexus]

Fits, though. What malnutrition does to a mf

[woeful flume]

we should be able to give our mons accessories along with mega stones on some of them like alain's charizard

[tranquil nexus]

They are wearing hats in Pokemon go

Let me put a top hat and cufflinks on my Emboar

[summer flare]

i wanna give tutti frutti a cute bow
shes a good girl and good girl scolipedes get cute bows

[tranquil nexus]

(Or a Kimono/something similar. Let’s let him cosplay as Uncle Iroh fr)

I wonder if they’ll let you actually go somewhere on a train in the DLC

[woeful flume]

like i want my gengar to be dripped out with me and have a mega stone on him

[tranquil nexus]

Also, let us put our key stone anywhere on us we like

[summer flare]

i want a CUTE bracelet, not

that thing

[tranquil nexus]

In SV they give you multiple throwing animations. They could give us multiple Mega Evolution animations here

[woeful flume]

ngl i forgot about the animations

[tranquil nexus]

I want a keystone earring

[tranquil nexus]

I love the little twirly one so much. It is so goddamn flamboyant when my “male” character does it I cannot help but smile each time

[woeful flume]

i think my character has the edgy looking slay throw i cant remeber but its something like that for some reason

[woeful carbon]

I’m doing the canari quiz thing and oh my god bruh this dude definitely a T3 Sub

[orchid shadow]

they have the recolor option

[woeful carbon]

“While I pride myself in being Canaris oldest and most dedicated fan”

[orchid shadow]

its already in the game

[woeful carbon]

Please gamefreak let us have custom keystones

I wanna wear a keystone necklace

[orchid shadow]

"other colors" and you can mix and match every color that you have available

[tranquil nexus]

If you want a specific color for a specific outfit, it might not exist

[orchid shadow]

-# for now.

dlc will inevitably end up with more outfits.

[tranquil nexus]

Indeed. And hopefully it fleshes out the collections so that there aren’t many color limitations

And hopefully it gives more acceptable purple options, without charging extra for them for no reason

[orchid shadow]

speaking of collections

im almost done with the shiny dex other than legendaries

the new colors really makes everything so much better.

[woeful carbon]

Can’t decide how to complete this team core

[tranquil nexus]

Glacion?

[orchid shadow]

something defensive.

[woeful carbon]

Aggron maybe

[orchid shadow]

that helps against fairies since youre weak to them on two of your mons

and is another out to flying types incase you dont have ice fang on feraligatr

so yeah, id say that's a good call

[woeful carbon]

I could run Charizard since I can before a battle change between Mega X for the resistances and Mega Y to be immune to ground

[orchid shadow]

if you want to drop 200k for that sure.

[woeful carbon]

Not the worst thing I’ve spent 200k in this game on

[orchid shadow]

so real

[woeful carbon]

(Clothing is so expensive)

I’m torn on the sixth slot I could go roserade for the extra fairy coverage + grass resists both electric and water

[woeful carbon]

I could also run jolteon or another electric type but I’m feeling jolteon since it carried me in pokemon red (thunder with high crit rate is funny)

[orchid shadow]

Heliolisk if you want another gen 6 rep

[woeful carbon]

Then there’s always mega gengar cause despite not doing much for resistances it gets a shit ton of coverage

I’ll probably spin a wheel

I was kinda hoping for gengar since it’s funny but time to pop off with jolteon

Now where are eevees

[noble ice]

Who a Pokemon you guys think that should have gotten a Mega in ZA and who shouldn’t.

[orchid shadow]

i hard locked the game

also Flygon

[robust wren]

Should have: Clawitzer
Shouldn't have: Starmie if that's the only thing they could have thought of

[orchid shadow]

i somehow got stuck in a spot before i unlocked fast travel and it wouldnt let me save kek

Starmie is a pun

it's name is basically star person

so it mega evolves into star human

[robust wren]

They could have done more to sell that than extending its legs and changing nothing else

[orchid shadow]

nah that shit's funny

[robust wren]

Mega Slowbro was funny. Mega Starmie was a mistake

[orchid shadow]

i got stuck again

pog

[noble ice]

I definitely have to agree that Starmie should have not gotten a Mega and I also think that Flygon should have gotten a Mega, but it would have been interesting to see what Mega Snorlax looks like.

[tranquil nexus]

I love that an Ultraman fan works at GF and they let him design Starmie’s mega

[jade ocean]

I did want a Starmie Mega and while the Mega was definitely not great in terms of design it did succeed in being an actually crazy Mega in terms of stats and will likely be very viable

And viability is the main criteria for me wanting a Mega so I guess I can't complain?

What shouldn't have gotten a Mega is Dragonite bro does not need any extra help

They did make the Mega not just Dragonite but better though

So they did handle that part well

As for what should have gotten a Mega, it annoys me that they gave Megas especially Dragalge and Drampa without giving ones to Clawitzer and Turtonator

Vileplume is more understandable I guess

Because then you'd also have to give Bellossom a Mega

But excluding those, what really should've gotten a Mega that didn't is Goodra

They gave Goodra but better a Mega

They gave the other cute goober Pseudo Legendary that is at least 100 times stronger than Goodra a Mega

Why did the Gen 6 Pseudo Legendary

That genuinely needs the stat boost

Not get a Mega?

[woeful flume]

well i got my shiny litwick....

it was an alpha too

2 guarenteed litwick spawns and i got a shiny alpha in a few hours

I HUNTED A WHOLE WEEK for shalpha gastly with 5-7 spawns

[robust wren]

Cause Gamefreak thinks they already gave Goodra enough of a buff when Hisui gave it slightly better stats and the Steel type. Nevermind that they added Archaludon a little bit later who does everything H.Goodra does but better, let's pretend that didn't happen

I genuinely wonder who the heck even felt the need to make Archaludon a thing

Duraludon was already an okay Pokemon, even getting a Gmax, which just made it feel like a solid one-off

And then someone went insane making Indigo Disc, turning it into a staple remover that can slay gods

[jade ocean]

Duraludon was NOT an OK Pokemon

Bro was even worse than Goodra lmao

Tbf I guess there's lower standards for non Pseudos

But it's just so stupid that a Steel/Dragon with 535 BST, even after getting the ability to hold Eviolite, is worse than Gligar

It's almost as ridiculous as Guzzlord being about as good as Duraludon is

Bro is worse than a Defensive Rock/Steel type 💀

[orchid shadow]

in my nuzlocke ofc...

[woeful flume]

omg i HATE spinarak in this game

[jade ocean]

Shiny Clause?

[woeful flume]

i have a whole box of shiny spinaraks

[orchid shadow]

i do have a shiny clause

but

i have no use for it

[jade ocean]

I mean yeah it is an Ariados, true

[orchid shadow]

my main save has FIVE OF THEM

im not even here for my capture yet

[jade ocean]

That's a lot of shiny spinarak

[orchid shadow]

im here for the stupid sableye quest.

im not counting mandatory side quests as part of my encounters

next time i step in there though it'll be time for my capture

not sure what i want from there

[woeful flume]

the only really good mons from there is gastly and honedge

[orchid shadow]

yeah im prob debating honedge

aegislash kinda dooky in this but

doublade is nice

i also want a staryu from area 3

[noble ice]

Been trying to get shiny Aron but ended up on getting shiny Onix, but I don’t have a metal coat and I don’t know where to get one

[orchid shadow]

a side quest kind of late into the game gives you two

[daring finch]

I think they sell it at the canari game

Place

[uncut vigil]

got a shiny alpha froakie

but i was already grinding up my regular shiny greninja

😭

[sturdy flower]

hey man if you don't want it I'll gladly take it lol

[lavish oyster]

almost done with al quests just need item trade and as also wirking on my living and living Alpha dex hope so meone can help me agin(dunno how many Mable wants but prepared a few poke for both living dexes

[harsh oasis]

Lol, the za dex has 10 grass species and only 4 unique grass typings (five with megas) while fire has only 9 species but 8 (9) unique typings

The only line that is only fire is the monkey

Hmm, would dragalge count as an honourary water type because skrelp is?

[tranquil nexus]

100%

[orchid shadow]

i wasnt expecting this alpha staryu to be lvl 30 lol...

caught it but i cant even use it for now

[tranquil nexus]

XP candies?

[orchid shadow]

nuzlocke

way above my level cap

[tranquil nexus]

Ahhh

[orchid shadow]

well good news is that it has 4 perfect ivs lmfao

[tranquil nexus]

Waiting for the second coming now, you are lmao

[woeful flume]

well i just found a shiny metang after only like a few minutes

[orchid shadow]

the only thing im waiting for is my game to stop crashing.

the team so far for my nuzlocke

oh and ofc i plan to use tyrantrum

just need to go buy the stone.

[orchid shadow]

debating on using chespin

[tranquil nexus]

Glaceon with Shadow Ball and Freeze Dry goes absurdly hard in ranked holy cow

[tranquil nexus]

Are you release nuzlocking or just stashing?

[plucky escarp]

did the new ranked season start yet? dont wanna miss my wizard fox

[tranquil nexus]

Nope, not for a few days

[plucky escarp]

ah rip

[orchid shadow]

release nuzlocking

[tranquil nexus]

I’m just late to the party lol

[plucky escarp]

fair

[orchid shadow]

i have no reason to keep them

2nd run after all lol

[plucky escarp]

i could see why glaceon would slap tbh, freezedry kinda slaps most of the meta options

[orchid shadow]

glaceon is very good

esp because it's bulky and has a small hitbox

[plucky escarp]

its nice its actually good, compared to usual formats

[orchid shadow]

ye

i have a clause of 1 shiny per wild zone

but still cant be a duplicate species

[tranquil nexus]

The Shadow Ball I found mine with is a very nice snipe against the smattering of psychics folks are bringing

[orchid shadow]

very good for bonking gardevoirs and metagross

[plucky escarp]

so i guess something like Ice Beam, Freeze Dry, Shadow Ball, Protect is what to run on Glaceon?

i dont think it really gets much else no?

[orchid shadow]

you dont need ice beam

[plucky escarp]

what do you take isntead?

havent used glac in ZA but i know its moveset is limited in other games

[tranquil nexus]

Im doing shadow ball, freeze dry, blizzard, and protect. Though I’m probably gonna be dropping protect

[orchid shadow]

blizzard is def better tbh

it's AoE and can get a kill even after you die

[plucky escarp]

always forget about blizzard lol, low acc moves arent on my radar... but accuracy isnt a thing in ZA

[tranquil nexus]

Blizzard is kinda high-accuracy in this one

As it just appears wherever the target is

[orchid shadow]

its very accurate

[plucky escarp]

i mean accuracy the stat

[orchid shadow]

ik

just comparatively in this game

[plucky escarp]

fair - nice its a solid option

[orchid shadow]

the only time you wont hit it is on stuff like excadrill

froslass is also really good

[plucky escarp]

i suppose speed EVs are probably wantd on Glaceon with all those high CD moves and a low base stat

[orchid shadow]

actually

not really

[plucky escarp]

gets by fine without?

i havent done any ranked team building yet

[orchid shadow]

maxing it out only really cuts off maybe a second at most

[tranquil nexus]

I’m running HP and SpA

[plucky escarp]

good to know

[jade ocean]

Is PVP at Level 50 or Level 100?

[orchid shadow]

50

[plucky escarp]

50

[orchid shadow]

HP and SpA is better

bulk is very important in this

cause you can get healing items

[jade ocean]

OK, so you can't literally just invest 0 speed and get the max cooldown reduction on any Pokemon that is as fast or faster than Barbaracle

Got it

[tranquil nexus]

I really like how alphas always come with maxed HP EVs lol. Makes it a bit easier

[orchid shadow]

they also come with max 3 ivs

minimum

[plucky escarp]

sounds like Mega Garchomp, Metagross with screens and normal gem explosion and Glaceon will be my team when i get around too it

[orchid shadow]

explosion is sort of meme-y in low ranks

but not worth it above anything K

[plucky escarp]

ah rip

sounded funny

[orchid shadow]

mostly because theres tons of charizard Xs around there

that will one or two shot it before it gets it off

[tranquil nexus]

Salamance might be better then Garchomp

[orchid shadow]

Mence is better than chomp due to EQ immunity

and also it's faster animations

but it has a wider hitbox if that concerns you

also doesn't learn dig iirc

[plucky escarp]

way lower attack though no?

[orchid shadow]

its not 1 mega per battle

[plucky escarp]

its not, but bringing 3 seems not needed

[orchid shadow]

you'd be surprised

[tranquil nexus]

(I’m kind tempted to try running dig on Glaceon, to try to pick off super low-HP runners that I’m not getting now)

[orchid shadow]

i brought 2 megas to counter a lot of mons

my main complaint so far is that theyre gonna start letting xerneas in next season

[plucky escarp]

fr?

that sucks

legends are boring

[tranquil nexus]

Meta’s gonna warp like bad steel

[orchid shadow]

honestly it's just a major target on your back

if you pop in with any of the really popular mons

you get hard targeted

[jade ocean]

Xerneas gonna turn Metagross from meta into more meta

[orchid shadow]

i think scizor will benefit more

[tranquil nexus]

It’s actually kinda funny how literally nobody targets me when I pop in with Glaceon first

[jade ocean]

I can see that

[orchid shadow]

mostly because metagross is weak to night slash

[tranquil nexus]

Gives me some super cheeky kills sometimes

[orchid shadow]

while scizor isnt weak to anything that xerneas has

[jade ocean]

Do you think less experienced people will target the big, angry shark dragon with scythes for its hands and Godzilla or the small ice unspecified mammalian creature

[orchid shadow]

most people cant even see your glaceon

as an fyi

[tranquil nexus]

You think that Yveltal will be any good here, or just kinda mid in the face of its brother

[plucky escarp]

ngl knowing legendaries are coming, i may not bother with ranked

[tranquil nexus]

And yeah exactly lol. It’s definitely a perk of the pick

[plucky escarp]

lame

[orchid shadow]

tbf

you only need to get to rank K for the mega items.

[plucky escarp]

not even that next season

[orchid shadow]

lol

[plucky escarp]

ima just get my fox stone and dip

[jade ocean]

+1100 points

[orchid shadow]

i already was max'd out i just noticed

im so use to needing 50k points

[tranquil nexus]

(I tried eternal floette a bit to get the same smallness factor. Didn’t work as well as I’d hoped)

[orchid shadow]

i wish they sorted ranked by people who've beaten the game

and people who havent

because its kind of lame to just want use mega greninja on your team only to be spoiled about mega (insert w/e)

[jade ocean]

Fair, what are the main Pokemon that this affects?

Metagross is one

[orchid shadow]

not even that

it's just the whole fact that one of the cool factors of the game is seeing the new megas

[jade ocean]

I mean even against other people who haven't beaten the game you could still get spoiled

[orchid shadow]

and if you see them before you meet them in the story it's just kind of less impactful

[tranquil nexus]

You also get access to a bunch of stuff that helps makes ranked easier after being the game. Bit of an imbalance

[jade ocean]

Like let's say you just unlocked Megas and you want to bring your Mega Feraligatr to ranked

[orchid shadow]

yeah im aware

[jade ocean]

And some random mf just whips out a Mega Clefable on your ass and Moonblasts you into next week

[orchid shadow]

its one of them things that just makes me wish they didnt put the kalos megas behind seasonal ranked first

like just put them in the shop like theyre going to anyways for 100k

[jade ocean]

This is true though

I literally cannot get them without actions of questionable legality or definitely illegal actions

[orchid shadow]

i decided to say fuck it to ranked and get 'em now

[jade ocean]

Whose bright idea was it to regionlock Nintendo Eshop

[orchid shadow]

hardly a region lock tbh

its so easy to change your e shop region

[jade ocean]

I'm not entirely sure if that's legal but it is a bit annoying to look for Nintendo gift cards

[orchid shadow]

it's entirely legal

[jade ocean]

Hmm yes I will definitely buy $20 with $100

[orchid shadow]

you know what im a little bit annoyed at?

[jade ocean]

That's such an amazing deal

[orchid shadow]

where are my roller skates

how you gonna make a legends ZA game in kalos without roller skates :(

couldve just called them rotom skates or somthin.

[jade ocean]

Until Flareon gets some sort of massive W, I think this game has cemented it as the weakest Eeveelution competitively

It was always a competition between Flareon and Glaceon

[orchid shadow]

are you unaware of how good it is in singles gen 9?

[charred sage]

isn't it in Unusable forever or somethin

[orchid shadow]

its in ZU but it's still actually good

[jade ocean]

I am aware of how good it is. That is to say, not at all

It is currently unranked in ZU

Maybe earlier in the generation it maybe did something idk

[charred sage]

checks* the only article for flareon I see is draft which

[orchid shadow]

Trailblaze + Guts Tera Normal Facade

its in ZU because Gen 9 powercreep is insane

[jade ocean]

But like the DLC sent Heracross from UU to NU

[charred sage]

not a good look but I like the analysis smogon gave it for draft, just like the formatting and how it goes over and whatnot

[jade ocean]

So Flareon probably just went from ZU to giga ZU

[orchid shadow]

i almost never give af about smogon anyways

since theyre stinky

[jade ocean]

It was also ZU in both Gens 7 and 8

[charred sage]

ROFL I love how leafeon's has copycat as a niche option (they make a good point about using it to copy entry hazard moves but having it be usable is a neat prospect)

[jade ocean]

Oh, it is PU in Gen 6 though!

And Glaceon's ZU!

[orchid shadow]

lol

[jade ocean]

So where is it ranked in the PU VR?

... it isn't

And Glaceon is

Flareon can't catch a break 💔

Bro got Electivired

[charred sage]

the only time I remember seeing flareon talked about seriously was at the start of gen 8 as a pre-home clefable check

and even then I don't remember it getting any serious traction on that front

[jade ocean]

Reminds me of how Dusclops was ranked higher than Dusknoir in a few generations

When in reality they're both unranked trash in that tier

[tranquil nexus]

In more ways then one. Never forget that first logo lmao

[orchid shadow]

how we feelin bout this?

[tranquil nexus]

It’s giving Todoroki (positive)

[orchid shadow]

🤢

ok swapping sides

[tranquil nexus]

Even though those are the same sides as T’s hair, it stops giving it

Looks good’

[orchid shadow]

im glad i didnt keep the blue eyes.

im using premier balls primarily

although i look more like a pokeball ig

[robust wren]

What would be some good Pokemon to transfer over to ZA when season 2 of Online comes around so I can actually do a playthrough with Mega Delphox?

[orchid shadow]

uh

[tranquil nexus]

You can’t yet

[orchid shadow]

that requires them allowing it

lol

[jade ocean]

Assuming that HOME compatibility arrives by the time you attempt this run, uhh

I don't know, actually

[orchid shadow]

most pokemon you'd want to do a run with mega delphox can be gotten normally in the game

[jade ocean]

Hisuian Sliggoo could be fun since I haven't found any other way to obtain that line

It is in the files

So presumably you would be able to transfer one over

[orchid shadow]

you can yeah

its not a quest sadly

same with avalugg

[robust wren]

Not that any sane person would use H.Avalugg online

[jade ocean]

OK but maybe like, 2 sane people would use it offline

It probably is just worse base Avalugg for online I'd imagine

Actually?

I mean

It hits Ice types with SE STAB

So that's cool

I mean Glaceon's pretty meta rn

[tranquil nexus]

If you do this next Feb and want to just quick-shot comp, glaceon, salamance, and… I guess Excadrill? But note that this game uses SV’s “caught at” thing to determine if a pokemon will listen to its trainer

[charred sage]

makes sense since I recall speed tends to become much less useful (to varying degrees) when you leave the turn-based environment consdering this game, GO, Masters (though base stats themselves are about as made up as the points on Who's Line Is It Anyway in that game lol) and I think LA? not sure.

[tranquil nexus]

So probably some eeveelutions or other stone pokemon

[orchid shadow]

im still debating on the hat ngl

[tranquil nexus]

Join the no-hat club

My current fit

[orchid shadow]

my main girl save had no hat lol

well

for most of the game

then i gave her a cute lil beret.

full body btw

yes i bought the 100k shoes

[tranquil nexus]

Bunny boots!

[orchid shadow]

this was my female trainer in my main save

i like these bangs if you cant tell

[tranquil nexus]

Definitely expressive

[solemn oak]

Omg

I did it

I’ve been hunting since Thursday

And I finally did it

These are all the phases i got while hunting swablu

And this will kinda help with my goal of shiny hunting the dex

Since now I have the whole bee drill line

And garbodor line

[woeful carbon]

Why do yall have so much better fits than me

[sturdy flower]

randomly found a full odds shalpha garbodor

[woeful flume]

W

[solemn oak]

Same here bro😭

[harsh oasis]

Gamefreak

Why no gogoat ride

Why no rolle skates

[solemn oak]

Cause lumiose already isn’t that big and that’d prolly make the map feel even smaller than it already it

There’s some fun side quests about gogoat riding tho

[harsh oasis]

Make it post game then

It's just like

Fast travel is boring

I would rather actually roam the city

But past a certain point I stopped doing that because it was so slow

[tranquil nexus]

There’s quite a bit that they could do to make traversal feel faster without actually making you go faster

[solemn oak]

I mean yeah fair enough

I feel like they should’ve maybe had other areas that weren’t just sewer, and facility

Maybe show us another town or something

[robust wren]

Maybe there will be more stuff added in DLC, but we don't really have a lot of info to discern that either way

[solemn oak]

Maybe some wild areas outside the city that kind of mirror legends arceus

[tranquil nexus]

Or have, like, “this is Kanto Town” and borrow the assets from The Teal Mask. Just a region of the city

[solemn oak]

When you walked through the station at the beginning I thought that meant maybe we’ll explore some more kalos locations but nah

[tranquil nexus]

I kinda feel like Timmy is probably right

Especially with the station being there

[orchid shadow]

cause this outfit is 280k

female was like 350

[robust wren]

No faster way to get broke in this game than customization

[orchid shadow]

yep

[tranquil nexus]

And mine comes from a shop you cannot purchase from until you’ve played through a good chunk of the game (iirc, I think this trench coat comes from there)

[orchid shadow]

accident bought 100k shoes first time and said screw it I'm wearing them

[robust wren]

Makes sense, I imagine a lot of fashion brands would upscale their prices for the prestige of coming from the Pokemon equivalent of Paris

[orchid shadow]

all the 100k items are worn by prevelant NPCs in the game

[harsh oasis]

Lumiose does desperately need places that actually look different

[robust wren]

The funniest customization option in all of Pokemon has to be that hideous Kommo-o outfit in USUM that you can't even afford after selling all the Big Nuggets from the Rainbow Rocket thing

[harsh oasis]

It's all just generic buildings and cobbles

Also, good news za chat; Every monotype run has enough unique lines to fill a 6 part team

[tranquil nexus]

The city sectors are named after colors, they could have at least made use of them in those sections

[robust wren]

The Switch era locales really peaked with Legends Arceus

[tranquil nexus]

I don’t have a switch 2 yet, but even so I’m hopefully hoping for a LA remaster that actually has some of the tree density and whatnot that they had in early builds

[tepid moss]

Just took a look at it, and ngl, I kinda like it. That price tag, though...

[harsh oasis]

Not all of them have enough unique typings tho. Notably Grass, Water, Bug, Electric, Fairy, and Ice would all require at least one repeated typing. Although water and fairy won't if you include mega forms

The type with the most species is Flying at 16, Ice on the other hand, has the lowest at 6

[sturdy flower]

i hate garbodor so L

[amber monolith]

Is ZA worth getting? I stopped playing PLA after the noble avalugg, then skipped SV. Might as well ask here, since this is the ZA channel.

[harsh oasis]

Ice also only has 4 unique typings (pure, ghost, grass, rock) but ties grass and electric, it's just that those ones have megas that give them more types

[harsh oasis]

Well it totally depends on what you liked and didn't like about pla

[amber monolith]

so technically speaking, the last pokemon game i played is Sword, which I had bought sometime after abandoning PLA since I had Shield when it was the currently released game

[amber monolith]

Difficulty

[harsh oasis]

It's certainly not as difficult

PLZA also focusses less on catching pokemon and more on battling, though those battles are much easier

[sturdy flower]

well there's a certain couple post game fights that are definitely hard

[amber monolith]

the first noble battle in PLA? it taught me that if all your pokemon faint, you can still continue the battle

[sturdy flower]

the game in general is not too easy not too hard

but in some cases you def gotta pay attention to your team or you'll have a terrible time

[harsh oasis]

I don't think any of the bosses in za are on the level of the nobles but then again, I never did beat Arceus

[tepid moss]

Fair. That fight is insane

[harsh oasis]

I think honestly. If you're looking for a good time roaming a city and fighting pokemon battles, and have money you don't care about, za is a good shake

[sturdy flower]

well ||the zygarde fight in ZA is absurd||

[harsh oasis]

If there's some other thing you're debating getting instead of za...

[sturdy flower]

the last phase is such a sharp increase in difficulty it's crazy

[harsh oasis]

Id say it probably isn't worth the cost

[harsh oasis]

-# ||I never had an issue with zygarde||

[tranquil nexus]

This game is definitely gonna be a good Facebook marketplace find for a lot of people

[harsh oasis]

Mmm

I had a lot of fun with za

I still think it should have been 60 maximum

[harsh oasis]

Am still having, to be clear, just yknow

[sturdy flower]

well i did

(i tried just once)

[harsh oasis]

Actually tbf

I failed once

on phase 2 I think

[jade ocean]

||I almost got cooked at least 5 times during that fight but I won first try||

[amber monolith]

-# ||Same. Because I don't have the game :V||

atp, i pop into the server now and then for stupid stuff

[jade ocean]

||Having a Level 100 Mega Froslass helps but it had enough bulk to wait out the entire fucking timer in Phase 3 alone||

||Zygod's a behemoth||

[icy flax]

wouldnt it be funny if AZ was the one who accidentally caused every major lore event in the pokemon series

like

he accidentally sneezed too hard next to the meteor containing eternatus and caused the darkest day

or something

[sturdy flower]

i failed on three

it's so hectic

[woeful flume]

gardevior carried that entire fight for me with moonbalst and dazziling gleam

[harsh oasis]

My whole team played a part, but the MVP was mega froslass

Did have to Rez her a few times I think

[wispy kernel]

Bro I was fighting for my fucking life with Feraligatr

[harsh oasis]

Lol

[wispy kernel]

My only super effective moves were Ice Fang and Outrage

I couldve also used Mega Charizard X or Mega Ampharos but I’m not using something weak to ground in that fight fuck that

[harsh oasis]

You didn't have any better mons 😭

[wispy kernel]

buddy my team was Feraligatr, Charizard, Heracross, Hawlucha, Ampharos, and Absol

does it look like I had better options

[harsh oasis]

XD guess not

[wispy kernel]

also I was 10+ levels below it

[jade ocean]

Managed to not need to use items, but iirc both Heracross and Froslass almost died

[harsh oasis]

My final team was Feraligatr, Raichu, Froslass, Scolipede, Absol and Gardevoir

[jade ocean]

Heracross was the mon I used for the first 2 phases

[harsh oasis]

Bois the goat!

[wispy kernel]

I just kept healing Feraligatr and prayed

[jade ocean]

Bois was a member that was already naturally on his way to Level 100

[harsh oasis]

Hehehe

[jade ocean]

And I dumped every candy I had into Froslass

[harsh oasis]

I don't remember if I was overlevelled

[wispy kernel]

Bois was my first level 100

[jade ocean]

My first Level 100 was Emboar

But for obvious reasons I can't really use that vs ||Zygod||

[wispy kernel]

At some point in postgame I did replace my Absol sadly

with a Chandelure cuz I love that guy

[wispy kernel]

Nah just lock in

[jade ocean]

I, uhh

Never ended up using Absol

[orchid shadow]

have you looked outside

that is how real life is

[jade ocean]

Apart from the battle you're forced to use it for

[orchid shadow]

it's meant to be an actual city lol

[wispy kernel]

this is a pokemon discord server what do you think

[harsh oasis]

Absol ABSOLutely carried me in a fair few fights. Swords dance, night slash goes hard

[orchid shadow]

you know what that's my bad for expecting common sense

LOL

[harsh oasis]

Genuinely worst take I've ever heard. You get an award

[wispy kernel]

nobody here goes outside

[orchid shadow]

i just got done from being outside

[jade ocean]

I had Bois and a Lucario fill the role of Swords Dancer on my team

I went outside just today

[wispy kernel]

nuh uh

[orchid shadow]

went to a really nice ramen resturaunt

[wispy kernel]

your outside privileges have been revoked

[orchid shadow]

does that mean i technically qualify for welfare

[jade ocean]

Tbh where I live places don't really look very samey but I've been to other cities in other countries that do

[wispy kernel]

no because the world sucks

[jade ocean]

That said I have not been to Paris so I cannot speak for it

[orchid shadow]

if i walked outside all i would see are the same exact houses

[orchid shadow]

i googled paris and looked specifically for places that werent photos from above with a super specific scenic shot

[wispy kernel]

I live in a somewhat small town I don’t know what big cities are like

[orchid shadow]

guess what i found

[harsh oasis]

Lumiose is supposed to be the city of beauty. It's supposed to have a bunch of cool historical buildings. Every wall shouldn't be nearly identical

[orchid shadow]

the exact same building every 10 feet

no it isnt?

it was literally never known as the city of beauty

it is literally known as the "City of Light" because of all the lit up buildings

[wispy kernel]

also the big glowing tower in the middle of it

[orchid shadow]

it's also in the middle of redevelopment

this feels like a take from someone that never played X&Y

[jade ocean]

There is no take worse than "Flygon should be a Bug type so that it isn't constantly outshined by Garchomp" like bro I guarantee you if Garchomp didn't exist Flygon would be in the exact same situation

[orchid shadow]

if garchomp didnt exist people would just say "why is flygon so bad, just use zygarde"

[harsh oasis]

Okay, point, I'm misremembering. But also, this is the map description so I think I still have a point "A dazzling metropolis of art and artifice, located in the very heart of the Kalos region."

[wispy kernel]

Every single fucking example of “this pokemon should be a different type” fucking sucks ass

except for Lugia

[orchid shadow]

yes, five years in setting

[wispy kernel]

Lugia I kinda get it

[orchid shadow]

and it is still that

[jade ocean]

Flygon isn't even bad in Singles it's like an RU Staple and that's pretty fucking good

[orchid shadow]

that's why the museum has a lot of art

[jade ocean]

Remove the Ground and turn it into a Bug and it becomes a lot worse

[orchid shadow]

and why you see murals of pokemon all over the city

statues everywhere depicting people and pokemon

[jade ocean]

Like the best part about Bug type is a Ground resist

But Flygon already has Levitate

[harsh oasis]

Genuinely what murals? The manhole covers?

[wispy kernel]

I still think its stupid that Flygon only has 1 ability

Trapinch has 3

[harsh oasis]

The statues, yes

[jade ocean]

Sand Stream would be a cool thematic ability

[wispy kernel]

GIVE IT SHEER FORCE BACK

[jade ocean]

And we don't have a Sand Streamer with pivoting

[wispy kernel]

GIVE BACK SHEER FORCE

[jade ocean]

So it'd be really cool to see Flygon get Sand Stream

We have fatass reliable recovery Sand Streamer

[orchid shadow]

wait

imagine this

[jade ocean]

We have The Big T

[orchid shadow]

not latios

my bad

i read name

[jade ocean]

And we have the coolest designed Sand Streamer that kinda sucks but shh

[wispy kernel]

Please give it Sheer Force back

[jade ocean]

(Fight me)

[orchid shadow]

Flygon with Sand Stream, and when it megas, it can use it's own sandstorm it made

[wispy kernel]

OR EVEN BETTER

ARENA TRAP

JUST GIVE BACK THE REGULAR TRAPINCH ABILITIES

[jade ocean]

Arena Trap would not change anything because it's banned in Singles

[wispy kernel]

JUST REPLACE HYPER CUTTER WITH LEVITATE

[wispy kernel]

ITD BE SICK AS FUCK IN DOUBLES

[jade ocean]

It would

[orchid shadow]

i dont play doubles so

[robust wren]

"Flygon is overshadowed by so much, replace its amazing Ground type with Bug."
Logic

[orchid shadow]

it'd just screw me lol

[jade ocean]

I'd probably say that Sand Stream is the ability I think would be coolest

[orchid shadow]

ok but think about this

[wispy kernel]

I just want Sheer Force back on it idc what else

[orchid shadow]

sand stream flygon, mega evolves with sand rush as ability

[jade ocean]

Because it fills a seperate niche from the rest of the Sand Streamers and it's a sick fucking ability

[jade ocean]

Peak

[jade ocean]

Like I said, fatass wall, The Big T and the one that looks the coolest

AKA really only the first 2

But Gigalith gets style points

Because it's so cool

[orchid shadow]

gigalith is cool

too bad id never use it

its never in any game where i want to use it lmao

and when it is, i have better picks

[jade ocean]

I can't trade evolve because I have no friends

[orchid shadow]

o/

ill trade shit if you need to

[jade ocean]

I dont currently have online anyways because my ass is not about to keep having to remember to buy Nintendo gift cards online that happen to be the most overpriced shit I've ever seen in my life

[orchid shadow]

did you not buy a physical copy of the game?

[jade ocean]

Seriously what deranged psychopath is selling 20 dollars for 50 dollars

[jade ocean]

What does that have to do with Nintendo Online even

[orchid shadow]

iv seen a lot of physical copies coming with 2 weeks of nintendo online

[jade ocean]

What

[orchid shadow]

even mine did and i didn't even preorder or anything lol

[jade ocean]

As in on both the Switch 1 and Switch 2 or only the latter

[orchid shadow]

it's NSO

just the base service

[jade ocean]

OK wait physical copies of what

First of all

[orchid shadow]

tbf i bought switch 2 vers of ZA

so maybe it was cause of that

[jade ocean]

Damn

time to buy a Switch 2

[orchid shadow]

trading in a switch 1 for a switch 2 works just fine tbh

you'd have to trade all the save data over and that can take a min or 10

if they dont have cloud save

like every pokemon game....

[jade ocean]

Y'know what I'm just gonna stick to the switch 1 until there's a game I want to play that's only on the switch 2

[orchid shadow]

that's fair

my brother has a switch 2 and a reg switch 1

and i have an OLED

[jade ocean]

I'll just stick to buying overpriced gift cards

[orchid shadow]

lol

[jade ocean]

Even the cheapest will rip you off for at least 50% of the original price

[woeful flume]

i got a 2nd shiny bagon on my fenniken hunt

[orchid shadow]

anyhow

[jade ocean]

At least Legends Arceus got my back

[orchid shadow]

every trade evo except scizor can be caught iirc

[jade ocean]

If nobody got me I know Legends Arceus got me

[jade ocean]

Scizor, Aromatisse, Slurpuff and Base Slowking

Slowking's dex entry can be filled by Glowking instead

[orchid shadow]

oh that's nice.

[jade ocean]

Though if you want to use a Glowbro, tough luck

Steelix is also only a one-time opportunity

And Alakazam is exceedingly annoying as it is only obtainable as an Alpha in Wild Zone 20

Which there's like 60 million of

[orchid shadow]

yeah scizor was the last one in my dex

my friend associates scizor with me as well which is really funny

[jade ocean]

I think Machamp's also only available as an Alpha there

[orchid shadow]

iv only ever used it like twice

[jade ocean]

Scizor's like one of my favourite Pokemon

[orchid shadow]

i like it alot

[jade ocean]

And it gets carried so hard by everything except for the mainline games

[orchid shadow]

but its not like.. "associate this person with this pokemon" type of like

[jade ocean]

Because I don't think I've used a Scizor once

Like in the mainline games

[orchid shadow]

i like scyther more.

[robust wren]

Scizor is carried in the Mainline by Legends Arceus

[jade ocean]

Most of my Scizor usage is in fangames or Pokemon Showdown

[orchid shadow]

its carried by the fact that it's in every single gen (excluding 1)

and yeah same

[jade ocean]

That said Mega Scizor is one of my most used Megas of all time

[orchid shadow]

im still really happy about mega raichu

i love raichu

[jade ocean]

I'm happy that Raichu is getting Megas

[orchid shadow]

idec that it's dlc

[jade ocean]

Not so much about how they're more of Mega Pikachus

[orchid shadow]

eh

[jade ocean]

That I'm not very pleased by

[orchid shadow]

im fine with it

theyre cute looking

[robust wren]

Mega Raichu X is cool but Y is extremely lame to me

[orchid shadow]

honestly

i have no idea what their differences are gonna be stat wise

[jade ocean]

I'm actually OK with it getting 2 Megas because god knows that Raichu actually needs the attention with how little it gets due to being the evolution of Pikachu

[orchid shadow]

yeah

fuckin hate pikachu so much cause of it lol

[jade ocean]

It's almost never Raichu people talk about, but Pikachu instead

[robust wren]

It seems pretty clear that X will be the physical one and Y will be the Special one

[orchid shadow]

i mean yeah

[jade ocean]

Apart from like more dedicated fans ig

[orchid shadow]

but i meant ability wise when they come to reg games

i cant wait for electric wind god fist raichu

wait i know exactly what to name my raichu now

oh i hope their shinies are cool too

[jade ocean]

The only Abilities I'm confident about are Eelektross keeping Levitate, Malamar keeping Contrary and Starmie losing Attack to gain Huge/Pure Power

[orchid shadow]

i cant tell if malamar is keeping contrary or not

it very likely is

[jade ocean]

Especially that last one

That last one is basically confirmed

[orchid shadow]

yeah starmie is obvious

[jade ocean]

Also predicting a ||Nihil Light|| nerf

I could see multiple ways they could go about it

[orchid shadow]

its getting a nerf and a buff

[jade ocean]

Firstly, multiple parallels are drawn between it and Z Moves

[orchid shadow]

its going to be type effective against mega pokemon

[jade ocean]

I could see it being only a 1 time use move akin to them

[robust wren]

||Nihil Light|| is absolutely becoming ||a Hyper Beam clone||

[orchid shadow]

nah

its gonna be like the terastal thing

[jade ocean]

Secondly, they could just slap a charge-up or cooldown on it

Though that'd make it kinda mid

[orchid shadow]

where it's a strong move by default

[jade ocean]

Thirdly, they could just lower the BP

[orchid shadow]

but its powered up against mega'd mons

[jade ocean]

I want it to keep that hitting Fairies effect because it'd be funny as shit

Depending on how they nerf Nihil Light I could see ||Mega Zygod|| staying in Ubers

[orchid shadow]

i think it should hit fairies for neutral, hit megas for super effective, is as 80 BP move, and strengthed while ||MegaZy|| is active

[jade ocean]

Though realistically, having to guess between a bulky behemoth of a Physical Attacker and a fast nuclear Special Attacker will make it broken anyways

Considering how base ||Zygod|| is already an Ubers staple

And yes, it is fast for Ubers

[robust wren]

Except the bulky phys attacker also has some speed thanks to DDance and the HP to safely setup

[jade ocean]

Obviously not at the speed demon level of the Raidons or Zacian

[orchid shadow]

to be fair

its likely going to keep it's gimmick

[jade ocean]

But it outspeeds every relevant Pokemon that is slower than Arceus at 120

[orchid shadow]

of needing to be reduced to 50% before it can

[jade ocean]

That's the only reason why it isn't the easiest AG of my life

[orchid shadow]

it has a dead item until then

[jade ocean]

I'm being so fr if it could Mega at Max HP this is more broken than a majority of AG Pokemon

Though it definitely falls short of Gen 9 Calyrex

That guy's a bitch

[orchid shadow]

zacian and mega ray...

[jade ocean]

Zacian I'm unsure on

And Mega Ray I'm leaning towards ||Zygod|| but I'll admit I could be convinced otherwise

Definitely stronger than Gen 4 Arceus or Gen 9 Miraidon

[orchid shadow]

see the thing is

[jade ocean]

Honestly, even base ||Zygod|| would be AG if it started as one

[orchid shadow]

it needs an item

ray doesnt

it needs an already good move

that it was already running

[jade ocean]

Ray is unbelievably frailer and can't hit Steel with SE STAB

[orchid shadow]

stone edge is rock type so

oh wait

super effective

i am big dummy

iv been reading "SE" as "stone edge" for the past 24 hours im so dumb

[jade ocean]

That said, it is strong enough to kill most Steels with Earthquake

The main ones that'd survive are neutral to it or just stupidly bulky

And uhh

[orchid shadow]

Ray is frail but hits like a freight train

[jade ocean]

V-Create

[orchid shadow]

||Zgod|| is tanky but needs time to d-dance a bit

[jade ocean]

V-Create kinda forces you to switch out immediately after though

[orchid shadow]

not like it loses out on D-Dancing

cause yknow

bulk

[jade ocean]

Mega doesn't really need it

[orchid shadow]

well yeah

but i was sort of just saying before that

[jade ocean]

It's basically just +1 Speed for it

The +1 Speed can unironically be scary though lmao

[orchid shadow]

you know what

[jade ocean]

I mean that Special Attack stat with that move and type is

[orchid shadow]

i just realized

insanely funny shit

[jade ocean]

Pure evil

[orchid shadow]

you can just completely bait people into thinking it megas

[jade ocean]

Either form without their current restriction would be easy AG

Remember, the base form is an Ubers Staple

[orchid shadow]

yeah

ima be real

[jade ocean]

It is one of the best, if not the best Pokemon in the entire tier

[orchid shadow]

||10% and 100% are my favorite forms||

[jade ocean]

And that alone may make it broken

[orchid shadow]

idk why i spoilered that

[jade ocean]

Because now you have to guess between 2 wildly different playstyles

[orchid shadow]

50% is my least favorite

so noodly

[jade ocean]

The only saving grace is Xerneas

[jade ocean]

But can you really call Xerneas a saving grace?

[orchid shadow]

aura break go brrr

actually yes

[jade ocean]

It's more so a 2nd war criminal

[orchid shadow]

Xerneas gets outrage now

[jade ocean]

That just so happens to hate the other

[orchid shadow]

i hate that xerneas gets outrage now btw

3 insanely good 120 bp moves

and horn leech

slap on lefties or assault vest and go full physical bulk

[jade ocean]

I tried making an example and got shot to death by Automod

[robust wren]

The Aura Trio as a whole are just unreasonable

[orchid shadow]

you dont even need geomancy

[jade ocean]

It always got Outrage btw

[orchid shadow]

It did??

shiet

[jade ocean]

One of the more confusing moves a Pokemon learnt

[orchid shadow]

that's my bad g

to be fair though

i never saw anyone use it

[jade ocean]

Iirc it also has Close Combat

Both by level up

[orchid shadow]

yeah

[jade ocean]

It's a bit ridiculous actually

[orchid shadow]

just at absurd levels

80 and 93

[jade ocean]

Anyways, Xerneas just Moonblasts the shit out of ||Zygod|| anyways

[orchid shadow]

i cant wait to terastalize ||Zygod||

[jade ocean]

What is it gonna do, ||Aura Break with Power Construct? Hah||

[orchid shadow]

.

latios

imagine it got an even stronger vers of it

[robust wren]

I can't imagine that Champions will let you Terastalize a Mega

[jade ocean]

||Nihil Aura: Instantly reduces all Fairy and Dark moves to 0 if Fairy/Dark Aura are active||

[orchid shadow]

i dont think theyll let you stack multiple gimmicks on 1 mon

but

[jade ocean]

The world ends

[orchid shadow]

it's funny

[orchid shadow]

||I wouldn't say 0, but it more like it just turns it into not very effective on top of the 20% less damage LOL||

[jade ocean]

We boutta start running Dragon Coverage on mons with Fairy STAB with this one 🔥

Can't wait for Xerneas to instalose to Xerneas because it had to click Outrage vs ||Zygod||

Xerneas always wins

Y'know, Xerneas is the type of gal to commit war crimes

Yeah I have nothing else

[orchid shadow]

its funny

[jade ocean]

She just commits war crimes

[orchid shadow]

causei t's the life mon

[jade ocean]

No excuses

[robust wren]

All three of the Aura Trio are war criminals at this point

[jade ocean]

No "Oh, but I"s

She fully admits she commits War Crimes

And takes pleasure in them

[jade ocean]

Yveltal is the least War-Criminal-y out of them

Which is funny since bro's literally Death

[robust wren]

That says more about Xerneas and Zygarde than Yveltal cause Yveltal is still pretty crazy

[jade ocean]

True, Life Orb Yveltal sets go crazy in NatDex Ubers

Unfortunately for Yveltal if bro is sent to Gen 8 he will instantly be forced to run a mid set

Simply to stop Mr King of Bountiful Harvests over here

[orchid shadow]

yveltal is prob my favorite before doggo

[jade ocean]

I'd say Yveltal's my favourite of the trio, followed by Xerneas, then Zygarde

But honestly?

With ||the Zygarde Boss battle?||

Bro may actually be threatening to overtake Xerneas because of the sheer aura

[robust wren]

||Zygarde Complete out here reminding trainers how squishy they are compared to the Pokemon they control||

[jade ocean]

Also, probably ||my favourite battle theme in the entire game||

[orchid shadow]

ok like

you know what would have been really cool

[jade ocean]

Bro forget the trainers, both Bois (Level 100) and Mega Froslass (Level 100) also almost died

[orchid shadow]

if there was audible thumps with each step he took in that fight

i went into that fight underleveled

with both legendaries

[jade ocean]

Everyone's dying

[orchid shadow]

i only won with 4 hp left on my feraligatr

[jade ocean]

Or, uh, almost dying

[orchid shadow]

i caught it in a luxury ball

[robust wren]

Slightly off-topic but this game really made me hope we get a Death Battle of Zygarde vs Safijiiva from Monster Hunter

[orchid shadow]

i like that zygarde is a digimon now

basically a 6 stage evo

[jade ocean]

Safi Jiiva's like that one elder dragon that absorbs life energy or something like that right?

[robust wren]

Yup. Dragon that exterminates ecosystems vs dragon that protects them. Perfectly thematic.

[jade ocean]

Tbf aren't most Elder Dragons threats to the ecosystem anyways

I mean a lot of them aren't even dragons but shh

[robust wren]

Sure but not to the same extent as safi besides the likes of Alatreon and Fatalis

[jade ocean]

Fair

[robust wren]

A clash between Star of the Sapphire Emperor and ||Nihil Light|| would be so cool to see

[jade ocean]

Also it does have a direct link with life energy, which both Xerneas and Yveltal share

Which are the 2 main Pokemon Zygarde's canonically supposed to keep in check

[orchid shadow]

side side note

[jade ocean]

I have absolutely 0 clue who wins between the 2 but if it is Zygarde, it better somewhat mirror the ||final cutscene clashing with Light of Ruin|| because that'd be absolute cinema

[orchid shadow]

holy fuck i did not realize how much lip balm hurts if your lips are already splitting from chapness

[jade ocean]

Yeow

[orchid shadow]

oil on cut skin basically