pokemon-winds-waves

[void brook]

All of the Kalos starter mega designs are cool.

[brazen jetty]

delphox is 50/50 its either gonna be still terrible or be super broken

[hazy knot]

actually i might even like it more than victrebeel

[prime shale]

Wdym they are all awesome

[opaque osprey]

|| https://youtu.be/ExUYVdlA6eI ||

[brazen jetty]

Greninja I just don't care

It's gonna be broken and wow so cool it got a giant shuriken (i don't care about gren)

[marsh swift]

I think when we get to play with them is when we'll form real opinions

[plucky escarp]

eh, i stand by this #pokemon-winds-waves message

[opaque osprey]

|| https://youtu.be/PPTqA10lt-c ||

[plucky escarp]

maybe

[void brook]

(Though I don't really care much about the megas since I want a mega Eeveelution.)

[prime shale]

You can say something like this about every mega

[hazy knot]

wait raichu is like x and y form? i thought it was the Alolan form or something lol

[marsh swift]

For me, it's tough to want to compare a Pokémon that I've liked for the past 20 years vs. an animal I'm meeting in adulthood

[brazen jetty]

But the raichus are actually so lame tbh

[plucky escarp]

i dont have to like them because you do, my opiinon wont be changing

[hazy knot]

i think they’re pretty cool personally

[robust wren]

Low-key kinda upset this probably means more attention on Hoopa, probably one of my least favorite Mythicals ever

[brazen jetty]

they could have just done the beta raichu evo

[prime shale]

very wise tbh

[forest egret]

Azul's kinda right though lol

[prime shale]

but im just confused they look so awesome to me

[plucky escarp]

guess i just hoped for something else

[spare roost]

i thought the hoopa portal was gona be a ystery dungeon

[plucky escarp]

if those were the megas chosen

[prime shale]

ME TOO

[violet pollen]

didnt even know that one existed, i would have prefered something like this far more not gonna lie

[forest egret]

Regardless of what your opinion on the design is, you can literally boil down any pokemon like that if you wanted to

[prime shale]

I got so exited and then, eh mega raichu ok

[forest egret]

Mega raichus are smelly

[spare roost]

but with the raichus we got 2 out o the 7 unknown Egas that were leaked

[plucky escarp]

though tbf, i just watched the trailer, had based my opinion on the pictures, i like chesnaught more now with the spear

[forest egret]

The spear is nice

[spare roost]

the leaker said ||7 unknown were|| dlc

[prime shale]

when are we getting a new mystery dungeon

[molten pine]

The Raichus are god ugly

[brazen jetty]

Mega Noibat when

[molten pine]

worst mega ever lol

[robust wren]

Mega Flygon will be paid DLC, calling it now

[prime shale]

hey spoiler tag leaks

[plucky escarp]

raichus look like demented middle stage betweek pikachu and raichu to me honestly

[brazen jetty]

They're not mega raichus they're mega pikachus 😭

[molten pine]

Exactly this

[robust wren]

People have been clamoring for Mega Flygon for over a decade, Gamefreak would absolutely paywall it

[molten pine]

The Y has Pikachus body shape but Raichu colors, X is Raichu bodyshape but Pikachu colors

[brazen jetty]

literally pikachu/raichu and raichu/pikachu

[molten pine]

Why did they do 2 of them

people hated that with Charizard

[void brook]

I think the mega Raichus are disappointing.

[prime shale]

Oh we are 100% getting a charizard Z

[rich dust]

I'll be still waiting fro Mega Vileplume to exist

[hazy knot]

because pikachu is literally the mascot of pokemon I would’ve been surprised if they didn’t make the raichu megas use pikachu elements

[brazen jetty]

They both suck

Like they're trying to be pikachu to appeal but they don't even look as cute as pikachu
They don't look cool either

[molten pine]

I'd rather die

[rich dust]

Vileplume deserves it as much as Victreebell

[robust wren]

Imagine we just saw Mega Greninja X and it will also get a Y cause of how it's the poster boy

[brazen jetty]

It's more likely we get mega venusaur and blastoise Y than megazard Z

[marsh swift]

?tag rule3

[rotund edge]

Make sure to follow the #rules!

Rule 3 DISALLOWED CONTENT: Self harm/suicide/other sensitive content. This is never just a joke, please don’t.

[hazy knot]

would they do something for bellossom?

[marsh swift]

[prime shale]

I wanna get a mega for a cool gen 5 mon like golurk or maybe even crustle

[rich dust]

Just give it fairy type

[robust wren]

Cries in Froslass and Slowking

[rich dust]

She's all about being a healer

[hazy knot]

true 😔

[plucky escarp]

least we got ||Malamar||

[brazen jetty]

bet the megas are gonna stay electric type or get fairy or fighting

boring as can be

[rich dust]

Malamar isn't that great for me

[marsh swift]

||Megamind||

[meager lynx]

Mega Raichu Z?

[brazen jetty]

Because one also just looks half like pawmot

[prime shale]

thats gen 6

[plucky escarp]

oh shit it is xD

[robust wren]

Mega Volcarona so it breaks the meta even harder

[native meteor]

I'd love the return of 2d PMD

[brazen jetty]

Like imagine if they just used all the pikaclones as inspiration at least!!

[rich dust]

Not gonna lie, Malamar sucks

[prime shale]

mega malamar is so so awesome!

lmao the duality

[rich dust]

but it's mega from

Looks cool

[marsh swift]

I am still of the opinion that only 3 stagers should get Megas

Just give the mons the evo

[plucky escarp]

i wonder what ability Malamar will get - Contrary is wonderful for it

[rich dust]

What about split evos?

[prime shale]

mega hawlucha is epic tho

[rich dust]

Like Oddish's line

[marsh swift]

Most of them can evolve still

[wooden lion]

Apperantly ZA doesn't have abilities (Idk if this is a leak, if it is i'll spoiler it)

[marsh swift]

And if they can't, mega

[brazen jetty]

They could have given mega X pikachu, minun, dedenne, morpeko stuff and Mega Y plusle, pachirisu, togedemaru, pawmot stuff

[marsh swift]

Just make it an evo

[hazy knot]

kinda what you’d expect after arceus, though it makes a lot less sense with za I guess

[brazen jetty]

to show they are in fact related

[prime shale]

||legend arceus also didnt have so even if its a leak its not too big of a spoiler||

[rich dust]

Hey, remember that lil Clobbopus and it's evo?

[prime shale]

the gen 8 mon?

[rich dust]

yes

[brazen jetty]

grapploct

[wooden lion]

Yeah, but they'd probs gets abilities in stuff like Champions

[marsh swift]

Grapploct

[hazy knot]

yup

[rich dust]

Imagine it getting mega evo

[prime shale]

i wonder if theyll do a mega for a gen 8 mon

or even gen 9

[rich dust]

That would be like big come back for forgotten fighting type

[marsh swift]

Better yet, let it evolve into Glocktopus

[prime shale]

IMAGINE MEGA TINKATON

[rich dust]

Mega Garganacl

[meager lynx]

Imagine mega Revavroom

[meager lynx]

Monster truck

[rich dust]

MEGA PAWMOT

[brazen jetty]

Every time I think of that mon it reminds me that they gave Grapploct Topsy-Turvy

Which makes absolutely No Sense

Topsy Turvys theme is upside down NOT octopus

[marsh swift]

F1 (2025)

[prime shale]

unironically would be awesome

[brazen jetty]

team star car

[marsh swift]

You mean the grappler wrestler who suplexes?

[rich dust]

Grapploct have weird mouth, but Clobbopus is pure cute and silly

[meager lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/jujutsu-kaisen-megumi-fushiguro-aoi-todo-german-suplex-gif-23759522

[rich dust]

Too bad little clobbopus had to evolve into that ugly Grapploct

[meager lynx]

I hope we get Mega Crabominable

Would be mega abominable

[rich dust]

Mega Quagsire

[prime shale]

Oh pleaseeee

[brazen jetty]

crabominable should have a regular evolut

[rich dust]

Mega Golurk

[prime shale]

would clodsire also get a mega then?

[rich dust]

Golurk needs more stats and love

[meager lynx]

I just wonder what happens when you mega a regional form
Hopefully they get new forms

[prime shale]

what happens if a mon with a regional form gets a mega?

[meager lynx]

Just imagine mega Galarian Slowbro

[marsh swift]

Mega Meganium

[rich dust]

He's huge and looks powerful, but his stats are not that good

[meager lynx]

Or Mega Alolan Raichu X

With two surfboards

[prime shale]

quagsire and clodsire are different mons so they wouldnt be bound to do both

[rich dust]

fuck everything Mega Pyukumuku XD

[brazen jetty]

I'm predicting that they will make mega Arbok and mega Aegislash

Because gamefreak

[hazy knot]

both would be peak

surely

[prime shale]

wait yeah i wonder what would happen if you give alolan raichu a mega stone

[rich dust]

MegaAegislash as a hammer XD

[meager lynx]

I predict
Mega Charizard Z

[brazen jetty]

Aegislash doesn't need special treatment

[rich dust]

No more Charizards

[hazy knot]

it chokes on it or something idk

[rich dust]

I'm tired of that fat dragon

[meager lynx]

More charizards

[prime shale]

wow what a crazy prediction

[rich dust]

No

[brazen jetty]

They should not bring back megazard Y

[hazy knot]

I mean it’s popular already sure, but it’s not like it couldn’t use something

would be cool either way

[brazen jetty]

Because megazard Y is really broken and I don't like fighting it

[prime shale]

mega aegislash would be a monster in competitive but it sure would be cool

[meager lynx]

Mega Khangaskan:

[rich dust]

Charizard is too popular, it made me hate Chalmander

[brazen jetty]

that is banned so i dont have to worry about it

[prime shale]

I wonder which mega will break the game

[meager lynx]

I hope we get a Mega Pyroar that is more Chimera like, or more Manticore like

[rich dust]

Mega missing no

[brazen jetty]

and even in ubers i never saw anyone use kangaskhan for some reason

[meager lynx]

Or both, male and female

[prime shale]

Ohhh that could be cool

[brazen jetty]

Mega silvally

[prime shale]

Oh a gen 7 mon should get a mega, maybe ribombee?

[rich dust]

Remember sunflora?

[meager lynx]

Fairy/Fire Mega Pyroar that is either a Chimera or a Manticore depending on its gender

[rich dust]

Make it mega and it finally gains fire type

[brazen jetty]

Comfey

tbh tbh

[prime shale]

eh comfey isnt very exiting

[brazen jetty]

Sunflora should get a regular evo

[meager lynx]

Mega Wishiwashi:
Even more fish

[brazen jetty]

comfey has a lot of potential i think

[rich dust]

Mega Ditto

[brazen jetty]

plus it would be good
comfey is not a bad mon

[rich dust]

Same as Vileplume

[meager lynx]

Lmao Mega Wishiwashi would get 720 bst

[brazen jetty]

just don't make it grass type

[prime shale]

balanced...

Hmmm will we get a mega for a lengendary mon?

[meager lynx]

With 45 HP, I think it is

[rich dust]

guys, let's beat Arceus with Mega Slaking

770 base stat total

[brazen jetty]

Mega Xerneas with simple

[meager lynx]

We should get mega Meganium and Mega Yanmega, so when I fuse both megas in here we get MegaMega MegaMega

[arctic pendant]

I liked Mega Charizard Y. It felt like the design base Charizard could’ve had

[robust wren]

Imagine it still has Schooling, but Solo is also Mega. Now instead of becoming Sunkern, it becomes Noibat

[brazen jetty]

It would still be worse than power herb

[rich dust]

...

[prime shale]

Mega meganium is a given i think bc its a starter

[rich dust]

All starters will have mega

[brazen jetty]

Mega Regice

[meager lynx]

Considering School form’s stats, it’ll get 100 speed points, having 140 in both attacks, 130 defense, 135 special defense and 130 speed, with 45 Hp

[meager lynx]

They should get regionals smh

[rich dust]

Even if most bad guys will have poison types, i promise i'll choose Chicorita

no matter what

[brazen jetty]

Mega mantine/octillery? they're kinda forgotten mons and I think most of the gen 2 megas are just evolutions of gen 1 mons originally

[prime shale]

Ohhhhh... you may be cooking

so many mons could get megas

[brazen jetty]

like except for houndoom and ttar I think? (the latter doesn't count because pseudos be pseudos)

[rich dust]

Mega Octillery as tf2 Sentry turret

[prime shale]

hawlucha was a very very good chooice

[rich dust]

XD

[meager lynx]

Grass/Fairy Meganium
Water/Poison Feraligatr
Fire/Ground Emboar

[brazen jetty]

grass fairy

[rich dust]

Again

[severe pier]

Chesnaught is already my favorite Kalos starter and now that it has a [redacted] its def getting a place on my team

[prime shale]

i dont think you have to redact new megas here

[meager lynx]

Reasons:
Eternal Flower Meganium
Sewer Crocodile
Wild Boar

[rich dust]

I wish to see Mega Decidueye

[opaque osprey]

Considering Charizard and Mewtwo megas, Raichu X gonna by Physical while Raichu Y is Special

[rich dust]

Or opposite

Think about it

[hazy cosmos]

||altho one of its megas is literally bigger Pikachu||

tbh I like it

[brazen jetty]

the type triangle is not great 😭
Meganium can't hit Feraligatr for super effective anymore, and gets hit 4x by Feraligatrs poison moves
Feraligatr is now weak to Emboar instead of Meganium
Emboar is 4x weak to Feraligatr

[hazy cosmos]

remembers the designs I would make when I was a child, altho less exaggerated

[rich dust]

Copy of Gmax Pikachu XD

[hazy cosmos]

and better drawn

[meager lynx]

I don’t care it’s cool

[brazen jetty]

poor meganium 😭

give meganium steel type

[rich dust]

I really wish for somw love to Vileplume and his lil bro Oddish

Like Mega evo or regional form

[brazen jetty]

I don't care if it makes no sense it sounds cool

[meager lynx]

Just give meganium an ability that make Fairy hit poison super effective
Or at least resist it

[hazy cosmos]

||isn't Mega Meganium gonna be Grass/Dragon?||

[rich dust]

Mega Vileplume could be made like every Venosaur's form.

Bigger flower, more planty

[prime shale]

Is this spoiler tag bc it talks about the leaks?

[meager lynx]

We’re not talking about leaks here, I’m just saying what I wish we were getting

[brazen jetty]

They're probably not doing mega vileplume
we already have poison grass mega

Also I wanted to do predictions for the stats

[hazy cosmos]

yes

[prime shale]

well good thing i didnt click

[hazy cosmos]

true

poor creature is hated by game freak

[rich dust]

🙁

[hazy cosmos]

but it's fine because I hate their parent company 100 times more than they ever could hate on this mon

[rich dust]

Like there was Mega Venosaur before and it was grass poison too

[hazy cosmos]

well, the major investors on their parent company*

[rich dust]

So why not

[brazen jetty]

do you think victreebel will be a special or physical attacker

[molten pine]

oh damn didn't think it was a rule

[rich dust]

physical

[hazy cosmos]

special

||it is a baloon of acid||

[rich dust]

He has more physical attack overall, and Vileplume had both attacks balanced

[brazen jetty]

no spoiler

i mean its 5 points difference

but the guy does use the whips

[hazy cosmos]

it is about its trailer

I spoilered beacuse idk

this time it isnt about leaks

[rich dust]

But Vileplume can heal itself by some moves, and Victreebell is just to attack

And Vileplume can learn 2 fairy type moves, one for healing and other to attack. Moonlight and Moonblast

[brazen jetty]

I'm making stat/ability predicitions right now

I mean vileplume is themed after a flower that grows at night I think

[rich dust]

and by moonblast, he can technically defeat Victribell

And sorry if i'm too much into Vileplume

I just really love Oddish and his evol

[brazen jetty]

mega dnite and victreebel predictions

it doesn't matter what they do to dnite it is gonna be broken either way

[rich dust]

Vileplume would stay as special attacker

and if mega, it would have 590 too

[brazen jetty]

malamar

my prediction is it will completely switch the stats on its head which kinda makes sense now that i think about it

I'm almost 100% it will lose atk and def

[rich dust]

maybe

[brazen jetty]

it looks extremely frail
like i could punch that brain and it would explode

[rich dust]

Like zen headbutt and self destruct in one move?

[robust wren]

I gotta say it's kinda vindicating seeing so many people calling Mega Delphox and Mega Chesnaught amazing while clowning on Mega Greninja as someone who always found Greninja's industry plant ass the most bland of the Kalos starters

[amber monolith]

with the new direct that came out, i'm not sure how i feel about the mega of my favorite pokemon that was revealed to get a new mega in za

[brazen jetty]

ngl these mega reveals are a 1/5 for me

chesnaught 👍

the rest is just... mediocre to terrible

[opaque osprey]

The Pokemon Company has shared more details about the newly revealed Mega Greninja, Mega Delphox, and Mega Chesnaught.

According to the ending of the Japanese trailer, the Mega Stones required to Mega Evolve the three Pokemon are to be distributed as Ranked Battle rewards in the Pokemon Legends Z-A Z-A Battle Club online multiplayer mode, starting with Mega Greninja.

Essentially, this means players who want these stones will be need a Switch Online subscription to participate in the multiplayer mode.

[amber monolith]

that's the one

idk how i feel bout my firt grss starter's meg evolution

[brazen jetty]

it makes sense for the inspiration

it's a bulky knight

[opaque osprey]

Delphox mega also quite good

Only Mega Greninja is the weird one

[tawdry flame]

how do we feel about || the dlc announcement||?

[brazen jetty]

the beard on delphox looks ugly imo

it also barely changes

[robust wren]

Instant rolling of the eyes tbh

Not a fan of locking a bunch of Megas behind paying more money

[opaque osprey]

I find the broomstick flying cool

[robust wren]

I actually don't mind the Megachus that much, but I'm not spending a dime on them

[flat ledge]

Yeah, I’m happy we get more megas than just what was leaked but dlc before the game is even out? Bit much

[brazen jetty]

way too fast after the malamar announcement

i feel

[robust wren]

I'm still calling Mega Flygon will be a paywalled addition, cause Gamefreak knows how much people want it

[amber monolith]

paid dlc before the gme is releed

[brazen jetty]

anyways if the stat spread and ability for victreebel end up being something like this it's gonna be so fun to use on stall

there i said it fun and stall in the same sentence

[robust wren]

You also just know one of the DLC Megas will make it's way to Gen 10 as a huge meta threat to make the competitive scene even more Pay To Win than Urshifu already has

[brazen jetty]

if you can even use the megas in gen 10

[flat ledge]

If they have megas in Gen 10 they’ll probably have them available in the Gen 10 games since you can’t transfer mega stones between games

[robust wren]

At that point what would be more insulting? Making the competitive scene more P2W with op DLC Megas, or paid DLC for stuff that you can't transfer anywhere?

It feels like a lose/lose

[flat ledge]

Yeah but you’ve never been able to transfer mega stones between games

[brazen jetty]

Wouldn't expect less from gf

[flat ledge]

So unless they restrict the mega stones themselves to the dlc of Gen 10, you’ll have the op mega in the game to use

[opaque osprey]

Imagine if they release new megas in Pokémon champions

[tawdry flame]

[robust wren]

Aw sweet, Pokemon Jail!

[tawdry flame]

|| but it'll probably be allowed to transfer them to gen 10 once that eventually releases||

[molten pine]

what the fuck

wh?

[lime void]

https://tenor.com/view/why-asking-confused-gif-4593721

[molten pine]

Pokemon from 9G can go to 8G if they are compatible

pokemon from my old DS can go to legends Arceus and back with no problem

What why

[flat ledge]

idk probably because the moves are programmed differently

or maybe they just wanted to be weird

[tawdry flame]

but that doesn't make any sense tbh

[molten pine]

I wanted to transfer some of my old buddies to mega evolve them, but like I'm not throwing my pokemon in jail

But if they're too stupid with their multimillion dollars to program moves correctly

pokemon from ZA won't be compatible with Gen 10 either

If they're compatible with Gen 10 then it's gen 10 that's not compatible with gen 9

and that means it has nothing t do with ZA

[tawdry flame]

but would we even know if that would be the case

Because I doubt they'll actually do that

[tawdry flame]

if so, then

[lime void]

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[robust wren]

Gamefreak make good decisions challenge: impossible

[lime compass]

I hate the new megas

[fast cypress]

which of theese shinies i made do you guys like the most?

[wanton pumice]

||The Raichu megas seems like they were making megas for Pikachu and the realized Raichu exists and gave it to them||

[lime compass]

When did that get announced?!

Or is it a leak

[fast cypress]

i feel like x matches raichu but y is litterally just pikachu

[wanton pumice]

Latest direct

[lime compass]

5 new megas in 1 direct is crazy

[tepid flame]

OH MY GOD

[compact mica]

One hypnotizes you to be gay one hypnotizes you to be a lesbian and one hypnotizes you to be trans

[tepid flame]

||TWO MEGA RAICHUS||

I'm so fucking happy

But I'm tentatively waiting for ||Mega Meganium|| still

[compact mica]

You aint getting that ever. They dont care much about the gen 2 starters sadly

Which is a damn shame

[tepid flame]

You don't know that

[compact mica]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[tepid flame]

They gave Typhlosion an alternate final evo they might just do it for the other two

Yeah screw you I'm huffing the copium good

It will happen and I will manifest it

[compact mica]

Yeah but no mega evo

[lime compass]

I just realized no new pokemon or regional variants

Only megas

[compact mica]

Of course

[severe pier]

just in case

[compact mica]

Its kalos

A pre-established region

No reason for a regional pokemon

[tepid flame]

Also it'd be kinda bullshit if they're doing regional variants (and especially regional evos fuck man I hate those) again

[lime compass]

I want to sprite the new megas before anyone else does it but I don’t have time

[tepid flame]

Like I'm really starting to genuinely hate regional variants if the roadmap to them often leads to just special specific evos only to that regional variant

[lime void]

Sinnoh was also a pre-established region, yet we got regional variants in Legends Arceus

[opal gull]

different time period

[tepid flame]

Look you can't tell me I'm wrong when shit like Basculegion and Overqwil exists

[opal gull]

anyways didja all hear the three kalos megas are not form regular gameplay but locked behind time based (reocurring eventually) events for prefroming well in ranked locked behind switch online

[flat ledge]

tbf za appears to be decently far in the future

like at least 10 years

[opal gull]

thats not enough for dif regionals

[wanton pumice]

Yeah I forwarded the news earlier

[flat ledge]

surely they could say "we discovered some new regional pokemon in the underground" ot something

[opal gull]

what underground

this aint sinnoh

[wanton pumice]

It gets a mega but the stone requires save files from let's say, both sword and shield

[opal gull]

didja hear that pokemon once transferred to za cant be transferred to other games

[tepid flame]

Hey it's no Runerigus evo method

I'll take everything at this point

[opal gull]

and that pokemon from za cant be transferred

[left tusk]

30 dollars DLC day one is kinda insane

[wanton pumice]

Does that say it requires the switch 2 version as well?

[storm bone]

I’m so happy about the megas

[robust wren]

$90 for a similar experience to what this series used to provide for $40
But please, internet, tell me more about how DLC is a more ethical business model than the 3rd games

[wanton pumice]

Want to feel sad about them?

#pokemon-winds-waves message

[tepid flame]

Wait they have a day 1 DLC?

[left tusk]

Apparently

[storm bone]

Oh it’s just like the snorlax z crystal

[left tusk]

Some people don't care at all, though

I find the 30 dollars dlc day one much more infuriating lol

[flat ledge]

i mean, i'd rather pay $90 than $120

[left tusk]

But that's me

[left tusk]

?

[flat ledge]

$90 is still insane but i wouldn't want to buy a whole extra game for new content

[wanton pumice]

Oh no it's real infuriating

[robust wren]

I always paid $80 at most, frequently paying only $40 for waiting for the 3rd game.

[left tusk]

I'd rather pay $60 than 90$ though

It's extremely expensive

[wanton pumice]

For that price you can buy silksong several times

[left tusk]

Day one is also big

[flat ledge]

but then by that logic you could just wait and get za cheaper than 60 though? dlc is way better than a third game since they don't get away with charging you a whole game's price for some extra content

[left tusk]

Isn't that the first time they even release a DLC day one ?

[opal gull]

day one dlc is not cool

[storm tinsel]

The Pokemon Company and Nintendo genuinely feel like they just get more money hungry by the minute

[storm tinsel]

I believe so yeah

[flat ledge]

yeah this is the first day one dlc i think

[flat ledge]

tbf they've always been really money hungry

ultra sun and moon, while great games, really could've been dlc

[storm bone]

Wait I thought mega dimension was releasing after the game?

[opal gull]

nope page says it releases same day

[copper sequoia]

whats our thoughts on the pokemon animal crossing

[storm tinsel]

There's a pokemon animal crossing?

[copper sequoia]

yeah in the direct a new spinoff was announced

pokemon pokotopia

seems cute i wish i was straight up just a pokemon though rather than a psuedo humanoid ditto

[storm bone]

More like dragon quest builder

I want to buy it but if I’m forced to have multiple Pokémon following me to do anything it’s annoying

[robust wren]

The ditto thing at least would make for some silly reference fusions I guess

[storm bone]

Hisuian form

[robust wren]

It's still crazy though that Gamefreak casually dropped "BTW there's day one $30 DLC for a $60/$70 game" and "you need to pay money for Online and be good enough at competitive play if you want the Mega Kalos starters you've asked for for years" on the same day. Actually wild.

[tepid flame]

American news information overload type tactics

They tryna make you lose focus on which one you should hate more or just go "ah fuck man I guess I'll buy it anyway"

[flat ledge]

honestly i'm not surprised

the whole dual game release with a third game thing pretty clearly showed that they've wanted the money from the start

[severe pier]

it actually not day one dlc

Its coming out in the winter

[opaque osprey]

Sad

[wanton pumice]

True

[coral wind]

MEGA CHESNAUGHT LET'S GOOOOOOOO

[storm tinsel]

Yeah same. The idea is cute and I like how ditto changes to do certain moves to change the environment but please let me run around as a cute ditto faced vulpix and not a boring slightly goopy trainer pleaaaase. :(

Not that it matters cause I will never have a Switch 2 and I don't think I'll ever buy a Nintendo game again, but hey it'd be cute.

[storm tinsel]

Oh is there also some weird prerequisite to get the mega kalos starters? I thought you'd just get that through regular play...

[hardy rune]

||I wonder, If they make sprites of these megas, would they be implemented as Raichu self fusion or Pikachu x Raichu fusion in Infinite Fusion?||

[wet totem]

Ill do Pikachu/Raichu

[hardy rune]

||Left one can go as Pikachu/Raichu and right one can go as Raichu/Raichu imo.||

[wanton pumice]

#pokemon-winds-waves message

[storm tinsel]

Man

Why would they only let you get that from ranked battles???? Not that they haven't clearly made other questionable decisions but like

[lime void]

Personally, I probably wouldn’t have used any of the Kalos starters anyway, since I’m planning on picking Emboar, which overlaps with both Chesnaught and Delphox, and I want to use Malamar which overlaps with Greninja. But still, it would’ve been nice to have them for repeat playthroughs and/or to mess around with

[ocean wolf]

Bro... Nintendo is going too far... Because we can only get megastones for starters by playing online :/

[storm tinsel]

Nintendo is kind of just steadilly becoming the worst lol

Or it already is to be honest?

[ocean wolf]

Someone do a hackrom when I can use mega Greninja :v

[storm tinsel]

Not too sure what other big game companies are doing though

[ocean wolf]

I have to wait so much for unbreakable ties 5.0 :'/

I think

...

[storm tinsel]

Regardless their decisions are unjustifiable

[ocean wolf]

Yeah

[hardy rune]

Greninja getting a Mega kinda triggers me since Greninja already got an Ash-evolution

[storm tinsel]

I mean It'd be weird if the other two had megas and it didn't

[ocean wolf]

It's exclusive so it's fine

Ash Greninja just exist on pokemon sun and moon

[robust wren]

^

[ocean wolf]

Yeah I know, Nintendo is dumb

[hardy rune]

||Seasons? Is Pokemon copying ForretressDragonite||

[viscid adder]

If the new mega evolutions had actual abilities, what would they be?

[wooden lion]

I’m not sure, but my friend said Stance change for ||Mega Chestnaught||

[acoustic igloo]

||Given the usual neglect Raichu gets, the fact that it got a mega at all (let alone two) is a win in my book.||

[warm knot]

Greninja being the only gen 6 pokemon to get a "mega" back in the day was so stupid

I'm glad they're finally getting actual megas

[lime void]

||It already got an Alola form||

[robust spindle]

Diancie

[acoustic igloo]

||I know, but still.||

[warm knot]

Wait that is just straight up mega pikachu

Pikachu glazing will never end

[robust wren]

At this rate, Gen 10 getting a battle pass and mtx wouldn't surprise me

[robust spindle]

Do we have to spoiler tag everything here? That’s a little annoying.

[warm knot]

I mean they said mega "raichu" will be dlc right

Nintendo is the bethesda of jrpgs

Except even worse and more beloved

[robust wren]

There will probably be more Megas than that considering it's $30 DLC, but it's still vexing cause DLC absolutely should not be in the discussion yet

[lime void]

At least not until the game’s been out for a while

[acoustic igloo]

||Are the Mega Kalos starters part of the DLC or the base game?||

[storm tinsel]

That's the fun part technically neither

[robust spindle]

Base game but you have to unlock them via online battles

[warm knot]

vgc players will have to buy 5 games and spend 90$ on dlc just to be able to compete

[acoustic igloo]

Dafuq???

[robust wren]

They're technically in the base game, but you need to do ranked play to unlock them

[warm knot]

https://tenor.com/view/this-fucking-sucks-crying-girl-tears-of-joy-clapping-danny-devito-gif-12766761978490409957

[robust spindle]

Pokémon Champions:

[warm knot]

Ah so you also have to pay for online not just dlc

https://tenor.com/view/rayleigh-one-piece-crying-gif-7583256620608062087

[acoustic igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/yuru-camp-shima-rin-nervous-anime-zoom-gif-13184860660486877227

[slow night]

Asking you to win Competitive Seasons for Mega Kalos starters is absolutely a greedy b--ch move

[robust wren]

$100 for a Raichu that almost looks AI generated, can't wait

[warm knot]

Pikachu cosplaying as a raichu

The only win raichu has gotten in years they still managed to give to pikachu somehow

[robust spindle]

That’s shitty criticism. You can say that about literally any design.

[robust wren]

Megachu Y has two sets of ears. It looks like something Ganbreeder would spit out

[lime void]

https://tenor.com/view/alolanraichu-pokemon-pokémon-gifs-raichu-raichu-alola-gif-20784971

[lime void]

This is the second time today the GIF has posted twice. WTF Discord

[acoustic igloo]

Yeah, I always felt that "looks like AI" is the new "feels like a bad fanfic."

[robust spindle]

I dont even like the designs but its worthless criticism

[viscid adder]

I'll list mine, and make exclusive abilities too:
Mega Dragonite: Dragon type moves also inflict fairy type damage or something idk
Mega Victreebel: Either Corrosion or an ability that allows the pokemon to attack steel types with poison type moves.
Mega Hawlucha: A unique ability where every fighting and flying type move functions like Flying Press (having both kinds of type damage)
Mega Malamar: Mind Control - Every attack inflicts confusion.
Mega Chesnaught: Multiscale or Magic Guard
Mega Delphox: Bewildering Fire - If the opponent gets burned, they get confused as well.
Mega Greninja: Sharp Reflexes- This Pokemon has a chance to go first, regardless of speed stat
Mega Raichu X: Electric Body- Every physical move can also inflict electric type damage and may inflict paralysis
Mega Raichu Y: Electric Power - Every special move can also inflict electric type damage and may inflict paralysis

[robust spindle]

Another thing I don’t like is the saying that they’re putting Pokémon behind a paywall. Every Pokémon is behind a paywall. It’s a video game you pay for.

[storm tinsel]

Okay but...

Some pokemon are not just gotten by playing the game

That you paid for

[lime void]

Mega Dragonite isn’t fairy type though

[viscid adder]

I'm trying to capture the kindness aspect

[robust spindle]

I’m only talking about DLC here, the Kalos starter thing is dumb

Not because you need to buy switch online though

[viscid adder]

Perhaps I can capture it in another way
Maybe Mega Dragonite can heal an ally pokemon if it gets inflicted with a status ailment

[warm knot]

That was 9 years ago

[acoustic igloo]

Folklore will tell you that fairies were actually assholes.

[viscid adder]

lol fair

[warm knot]

Do you know what years means

[robust spindle]

Here’s an idea for Dragonite mega ability: Supereffective moves have priority

[storm tinsel]

The real problem with the dlc is that it is announced before even the game for it is out so it feels like they've cut megas out of the base game just to sell you an overpriced dlc. Not in the competitive scene but I know they often put broken pokemon in the dlcs, so for competitive you may or may not need it.

[viscid adder]

ooh! interesting idea

[warm knot]

I didn't even think about that, you're so right

Can't wait for them to reveal the pre-order bonus that is another mega stone

[robust spindle]

The competitive scene is moving to Pokemon Champions, the competitive issue is solved.

[acoustic igloo]

My only issue is when items are locked behind DLC, meaning you have to rely on someone being generous enough to give you the corresponding Mega Stone.

The Kalos starters' stones, however, are just BS no matter how you cut it.

[storm tinsel]

I don't know enough about Pokemon Champions to know if that will hold true, but if they have ranked seasons for Legends ZA this does imply that you would have competitive matches outside of Champions

[warm knot]

My only issue is everything about this game

If a western developer did this y'all would flame them to hell and back

[storm tinsel]

I mean I'm sure flaming them lol

[robust spindle]

For what? Paid DLC content having content?

[storm tinsel]

That was never what the complaint was

Why would a game announce dlc before the game is even out???

A dlc should not be in the works at the same time

[acoustic igloo]

I'm expecting the game itself to be great, but the way the Mega Kalos starters and (to a lesser extent) Mega Raichu are being handled is pretty suspect.

[robust spindle]

I agree they shouldn’t announce DLC before the game is out but I think people who are implying it’s just base game stuff they cut out to charge extra are lying to themselves

[lime void]

There are still plenty of Pokémon from later Gens that haven’t gotten anything at all that they could’ve and should’ve given megas too instead

[storm tinsel]

You are correct that I don't know that but it gives a really bad feeling to have it announced so soon. It would not surprise me if base game stuff was moved to the dlc because of this short time. I do not have faith in this company, so this is speculation, but it feels like something they'd do.

[robust spindle]

I’ll have to see what the actual content is before I make a true judgement.

[storm tinsel]

That's fair.

[drowsy veldt]

I kind of feel like it is only the city and nothing else.
Not a huge selling point to me to hunt pokemon in a city.

[robust wren]

The Kalos starters getting Megas almost convinced me to actually buy ZA, but the asinine means of unlocking their Mega Stones had me instantly back right out

[molten pine]

Yeah it's such bullshit

[acoustic igloo]

I'm probably going to pick it up anyway, but at the same time I also kinda want a Switch 2.

Here's hoping one of the places I apply to doesn't throw my resumé out without a word.

[slow night]

I had hopes from this game,now they're all gone too.

[charred sage]

TCPi failing the "don't force your audience to engage with PvP by locking exclusive rewards behind it" challenge yet again

[sturdy flower]

alright fellas what do we think these are

[charred sage]

especially since I wouldn't doubt legends arceus having no PvP elements (until a postgame update I think? unless that was just a Battle Facility) was seen as a point in its favor by a fair bit of people

[wanton pumice]

paid dlc /hj

[sturdy flower]

of course it is.

that's the whole point

[compact mica]

I just saw how to get the mega stones

I want to off my self

[sturdy flower]

they are from the dlc trailer

[compact mica]

THIS IS BULLSHIT

[drowsy veldt]

This is why I never downloaded the new gacha like game that is similar to star rail.
I care little for multi-player combat, especially when it is forced.

[wanton pumice]

oh really

[sturdy flower]

yeah

there's a bunch of mega stones before the Raichu ones

[wanton pumice]

?tag rule3 please, please get some actual help

[rotund edge]

Make sure to follow the #rules!

Rule 3 DISALLOWED CONTENT: Self harm/suicide/other sensitive content. This is never just a joke, please don’t.

[compact mica]

A FREAKING PAYWALL TO HAVE ARGUABLY THE BEST MEGAS IN MY EYES

[compact mica]

Sorry didnt actually mean it

Its just stupid. Why a paywall.

[drowsy veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/money-gif-11341170073272671015

[tawdry flame]

What Pokémon have these colors on them?

[molten pine]

Say "I wanna kick myself in the balls" instead

[compact mica]

We shell out around 70 or so bucks for this game and your gonna make us pay for more services just for a thing that isnt real

DANG IT NINTENDO YOUVE FALLEN FROM GRACE

[molten pine]

Pirate it

[sturdy flower]

that's what I'm asking you guys lol

[drowsy veldt]

Every gacha summed up

[sturdy flower]

i can give you my guesses

[tawdry flame]

I think the 3rd one could be toxtricity but idk

[compact mica]

Problem is, gacha games also have in game currency that lets you do gacha, THE CASE ISNT THE SAME HERE

[sturdy flower]

1. thought it was primarina or galarian rapidash but that yellow stripe is throwing me off
2. east gastrodon
3. aegislash
4. no clue

[acoustic igloo]

Pokopia looks sick, for anyone who saw that.

[compact mica]

It does

The idea of us playing as a ditto is really cool

[tawdry flame]

I saw it and I like it

[sturdy flower]

it looks sickly

[tawdry flame]

Might make a reference fusion to it

[sturdy flower]

the graphics suck so bad

they just can't get shadows right

[compact mica]

Ditto double fusion?

[sturdy flower]

they're always so soft and everything looks flat as a result

[acoustic igloo]

Hell yes.

[compact mica]

HELL YES A DOUBLE DITTO FUSION

OOH IDEA

[sturdy flower]

oh damn good point

the black is a little out of place

that's why i think aegislash

[compact mica]

Have one arm be the the leafage vine and the other be the cut blade

[sturdy flower]

liepard would also be possible if it weren't for the black

[bright grail]

Mega greninja

[sturdy flower]

they should have done something with the tongue

he looks a little bland

[compact mica]

Pause

[sturdy flower]

i imagine he'll have two idles, one upside down one standing normally

[sturdy flower]

come on dawg

[compact mica]

Dont come on me you know that sounds weird out of context

[compact mica]

But yeah kallo what do you think about this idea for the fusion

[acoustic igloo]

I love it.

I was thinking about it using Water Gun, even.

[compact mica]

Im realizing they pulled a parasyte the maxim on us

[heavy grail]

Already have my team planned out

[compact mica]

For z-a?

[acoustic igloo]

All I know is that Roserade will definitely be on my team.

(It's always on my team if it's available in a given game)

[heavy grail]

Yep!

[compact mica]

Greninja is a guaranteed for me

[heavy grail]

Same here

[compact mica]

Okay i want greninja, scizor (hopefully as my backup mega if i cant get greninja as a mega), Luxray, clefki, and aegislash

And the final would be.....

Screw it malamar

Also we all agree that the megas are gonna be double fusions in PIF

Right?

[acoustic igloo]

If Luxray's there, it's also a shoo-in for my team.

[heavy grail]

Eevee, because Eevee is cute, Meganium, Greninja, Hawlucha, Dragonite, Gardevoir, and Raichu in the DLC

[compact mica]

I want aegislash to have a mega so dang bad

[compact mica]

You listed 4 mega evo pokemon, why you gotta be stacked man

[warm knot]

There's no way that is your argument

[compact mica]

5 actually i cant count

[warm knot]

They'll definitely give eevee some normal type evolution just so they can make a mega eevee

[compact mica]

WAIT YOUF HAVE A TEAM OF 7

[warm knot]

Like how they gave raichu a mega that is just mega pikachu

[heavy grail]

The new Megas are cool. Plus this is the first time new Megas have been revealed while being a Pokémon fan. I started with Sun

[heavy grail]

They gave Raichu 2

[warm knot]

Yes and they both look like pikachu

[compact mica]

I started with alpha sapphire

[warm knot]

I think TPC would've preferred if Raichu never existed in the first place

[acoustic igloo]

I lowkey wish Gorochu came to fruition, though I guess there's a silver lining in that if it didn't, Alolan Raichu and perhaps Pawmot wouldn't exist today.

[heavy grail]

True

[lime void]

Considering that Gen 1 already got an entire Generation where it was exclusively pandered too, I think it is more then fair that no Gen 1 Pokémon receive special attention for at least one game. Especially if the Pokémon already received special treatment between Gens 6-9 (the generations that have yet to be remade).

[heavy grail]

Uh, 5 too

[lime void]

No Pokémon got special treatment in Gen 5 though

[warm knot]

While that's true, Raichu is fairly ignored by TPC for how popular it is, Pikachu has gotten tons of content but Raichu has always been on the sideline compared to it. The first and last time Raichu got anything was in Sun and Moon with its Alolan form, and now when Raichu is finally getting a new thing it's basically Pikachu 2.0 and 3.0

I agree that Kanto should get less special treatment but if they're going to give it special treatment just to give it to Pikachu that's ridiculous

[acoustic igloo]

I dunno. It feels like GF is in love with Garbodor for some inexplicable reason.

[lime void]

Garbodor got a G-max form and nothing else

[heavy grail]

I mean remakes

[warm knot]

Garbodor G-max did surprise me

I don't like Garbodor but it's nice that it got one when the main gimmick was mainly kanto and galar pokemon

[lime void]

They couldn't give Pikachu a mega, since only fully evolved Pokémon can mega evolve

[warm knot]

Are you intentionally not understanding what I'm saying

[flat ledge]

i mean, i'm a bit sad that mega raichu is trying to be a mega pikachu but i'm glad raichu is at least getting something

[lime void]

I'm saying that I didn't mention Gen 5 because no Pokémon got special attention

[flat ledge]

it's still predominantly raichu though

now they just have to allow raichu to use the light ball and all is right

[storm tinsel]

Honestly neither feel super raichu

That's a little subjective though, there might be more raichu elements I'm missing

[warm knot]

They're both just mega pikachu

Barely pretending to have any Raichu related design

[flat ledge]

honestly unless they make x and y really different i don't see the value in 2

[warm knot]

Extra merch

[flat ledge]

like just give x y's colours and eyes and you're golden

[warm knot]

More money

It's always about the money

[flat ledge]

then why didn't they make a z

[storm tinsel]

||Yeah looking at these to me they feel more like a raichu fused with two pikachus than a mega raichu||

[lime void]

No Pokémon should have more then one mega in the first place. Especially since the only other Pokémon to have 2 megas shouldn't have megas at all

[acoustic igloo]

I get the feeling that X will be Electric/Fighting.

[storm tinsel]

Agreed

[charred sage]

pikachu I'm just inclined to accept whatever because Mascot lol

[flat ledge]

tbf with y it basically is just raichu with pikachu eyes

[flat ledge]

ok i agree with the no 2 megas thing but i think charizard and mewtwo having megas is fine

[warm knot]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-meme-skeleton-fire-zz-gif-2672574253704646677

[flat ledge]

i'm calling mega raichu x elec/fighting and y elec/flying or psychic

[lime void]

Normally I'd agree with you, however Raichu is usually ignored when it comes to Pikachu's mascot treatment, and the megas only benefit Raichu

[storm tinsel]

Megas is a little weird, because I think there was an idea going around that megas make pokemon with mediocre or bad stats have good stats and abilities, but I don't think that was actually the case most of the time, since a lot of the megas were given to pokemon that were already strong enough and became broken.

[flat ledge]

nah they're making a super eviolite that only works if the evolution has a mega to benefit pikachu

[warm knot]

Give me more beedril like megas

Bad pokemon that get cool designs and stats with the new megas

[acoustic igloo]

Aside from a couple cases like Beedrill or Pidgeot, anyway.

[flat ledge]

pidgeot isn't a great example

its stats are still pretty bad

[acoustic igloo]

Lopunny, then?

[warm knot]

Or Mawile

[flat ledge]

mawile is the best example

[acoustic igloo]

I forgot that thing got a mega.

[flat ledge]

then kangaskhan but we don't talk about that

then slowbro i guess

[wanton pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/mawile-pokemon-gif-26533931

[storm tinsel]

Oh kangaskhan and your double hit of death

[lime void]

To explain why I don't like Charizard getting a mega, I'm going to share this segment from my Charizard rant:
Starter Pokémon are (aside from spinoff games) rarely seen outside of their home region. And when they are, it’s usually not until postgame. My main point here is that you don’t see starter Pokémon very often unless you’ve transferred them in from a previous game.

[acoustic igloo]

Of course, there are cases like Garchomp where the mega is actually worse than the base form.

[flat ledge]

mega ampharos is really close to being good it just needs tail glow or thunderclap

[robust wren]

We do at least have Malamar for that so far

[warm knot]

Flashback to Leon's ace being a charizard

And it being the only kanto starter to have a g-max when the came out

And the only obtainable one

[storm tinsel]

Yeah :/

[flat ledge]

well yeah but a lot of megas have been post game before, xy and oras both have postgame megas, and in gen 7 megas as a whole are postgame

[acoustic igloo]

Charizard getting a mega would have been okay if it were just one. There's no reason for it to have two when Venusaur and Blastoise only have one.

[warm knot]

I like Mega Charizard Y

[lime void]

As for Mewtwo, legendary Pokémon shouldn't get stronger forms, since they're already super strong. Plus, Mewtwo is an artificial Pokémon, and mega evolution is a natural phenomenon

[flat ledge]

i like y but that thing is way unbalanced

[acoustic igloo]

I actually prefer Y over X.

[flat ledge]

mewtwo is not a good legendary pokemon though 😭

[warm knot]

I think both of Charizard's mega designs are good at different things

But Y feels more charizard to me

[lime void]

Oh don't worry, that's included in my rant

[warm knot]

Not that it should've gotten two

[flat ledge]

it had like sub 1% usage last time it was legal 😭

[warm knot]

I wish Mewtwo got only one mega that was actually cool

Both of its designs are so lame

[lime void]

The Kanto starters weren't postgame megas though. Plus, the privilege of getting new forms outside of their home region hasn't been extended to any other starter trio.

[flat ledge]

hisuians???

oh wait trio

i mean ||the za starters are getting megas so|| leak thingy

[lime void]

Once again, to quote my Charizard rant:
Decidueye, Typhlosion and Samurott all got Hisuian forms while the other members of their trios did not. This is a unique situation, however. You see, they didn’t just randomly pick three starters to give forms to. They picked three starters from different generations, brought them together to form a new starter trio and gave them all new forms to make them more exciting. So, in short, the Hisuian starters are acceptable because they were given these forms to fulfill their roles as starters. Although, I do think that the other Johto, Unova and Alola starters should be given priority when giving new forms to starters.

[acoustic igloo]

I like Mega Mewtwo Y.

[flat ledge]

fair, i still think it's fair for charizard to have at least 1 mega, with gen 6 coinciding with the 20th anniversary and all, as well as charizard actually being pretty mediocre

[lime void]

The same argument will be applied for the Z-A starters assuming they get megas

[storm tinsel]

I think Charizard having only 1 mega is fine considering the other Kanto starters have megas but it really should have always been the Kalos starters getting megas instead

[acoustic igloo]

I kind of wish the other Johto, Unova, and Alola starters were in PLA just to balance everything out.

[lime void]

Again, I wouldn't have an issue with this if other starters were given the same opportunity. But as of now, the Kanto starters are the only ones to get this kind of treatment

[warm knot]

Imo it should've been the 3 kalos starters, the legendary trio, and some pokemon from gens 1-5

[acoustic igloo]

(Though if they did that, the Johto starters would all have two regional variants...)

[warm knot]

Not almost entirely kanto and then in oras almost entirely hoenn

[flat ledge]

tbf hoenn has some abysmal stat spreads

[storm tinsel]

Oh no I don't like all the Kanto mons getting the attention either

[acoustic igloo]

It's sad, too, because my favourite Hoenn starter is also the worst one thanks to its movepool directly contradicting its stat spread.

[uneven path]

I'm a big fan of terracotta warrior emboar

[storm bone]

I'm not suprised raichu got 2 megas but what I'm suprised is that it took this long to get one

[uneven path]

Especially with how central Pikachu is to the branding of the series

[ocean wolf]

I like it

[storm tinsel]

I think it would have been funny if raichu got three megas, raichu z literally just being turning into pikachu fully

[warm knot]

How are people so fast

[unborn elm]

Love it

[storm tinsel]

I appreciate the on my message

[ocean wolf]

I don't know...

[storm tinsel]

I should make a letter of awful things they could add and send it to them

[unborn elm]

Love how both mega raichus make the shape of their letter

X

And Y

Also

Mega Y raichu looks shiny

Also

Mega x raichu is the closest thang we getting to gorochu

If that’s the scrapped third evos name if I can remember

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-legends-za-legends-za-malamar-malamar-pokemon-gif-11296905283171391100

Malamar is everyone’s friend

Malamar would never hypnotize people

[lime void]

I don’t think it was a scrapped evo so much as a fanmade/fake evo. Though I could be misremembering

[unborn elm]

Pretty sure it was scrapped in favor of pichu

But Malamar has been slandered

It would never hypnotize ppl

That’s the medias lies

[acoustic igloo]

I remember a good one from before SV was out. (EDIT: Damn, replied to the wrong message. I meant the one with the list of awful ideas to send GF)
https://web.archive.org/web/20220309193250/pokemon.fandom.com/wiki/Death

[unborn elm]

lol

[storm tinsel]

Oh my god snsjsjajjaia

[unborn elm]

That would suck

[storm bone]

look at xhat I(m working on

[unborn elm]

Hatching a shiny dead pkm

[unborn elm]

Amazing

[storm bone]

thanks 😄

[unborn elm]

Wait is Malamar a gen 5 or 6 mon?

[acoustic igloo]

6

[unborn elm]

Hmmm

So so far we have 3 mega kalos mons

[lime void]

5

[unborn elm]

Wait no there’s also the starters

So diance

Halucha

Malamar

And the starters

So 6

[lime void]

5 introduced in Z-A, 6 total

[unborn elm]

Hell he’s

[lime void]

As of now

[unborn elm]

Yes

Hopefully we get more gen 6 megas then other gen’s

[lime void]

I’m hoping that every Gen will have at least 20 by the end of Z-A, that way Kanto will have the least

[unborn elm]

Only 27 new megas were getting added I think

[lime void]

(Yes I’m aware that’s highly unrealistic)

[lime void]

We don’t know the total number yet

[unborn elm]

So 8 have been shown

[acoustic igloo]

Gen 5 could use some more megas.

[unborn elm]

Haxours

Mega haxorous is needed

[lime void]

I’m hoping for lots of Gen 4, 5 and 6 megas

[unborn elm]

Haxourus should have been the pseudo and not bumdregion

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-generations-haxorus-liepard-pokemon-gif-26635619

[lime void]

I think Hydreigon should’ve had a reasonable evolution level

[acoustic igloo]

64 is ridiculous.

[unborn elm]

I think it was so high to reference 1964 for ghidorahs first appearance

[copper sequoia]

I thought i was perfectly ok and neutral on the new raichus but i just looked at their home renders

[unborn elm]

https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-king-ghidorah-electricity-gmk-energy-gif-26677948

[copper sequoia]

Im sorry but these are ass

[copper sequoia]

The features are there but those colors are not it

[lime void]

They have home renders?

[unborn elm]

I like’em but I’ll respect ur opinion

I’m just grateful raichu actually got something

[copper sequoia]

I dont like how the only art weve seen of the new megas is ugly fugly disgusting home renders they look really cheap and plasticy to me give me my 2d art back

[lime void]

https://tenor.com/view/alolanraichu-pokemon-pokémon-gifs-raichu-raichu-alola-gif-20784971

[tawdry flame]

2 raichus

[lime void]

(God damn it Discord)

[unborn elm]

Pikachu got 2 Z moves and like 10 different forms in alola

[civic cloud]

I don’t know if I like mega delphox more or not

[copper sequoia]

Oh i am so happy with all 3 kalos starters

[unborn elm]

I love granola

Greninja

[copper sequoia]

I love how they locked them behind a paywall too thats awesome

[unborn elm]

Only thing I hate about greninja is that it’s upside down

[civic cloud]

Wait WHAT NOOO

[acoustic igloo]

I really like how Chesnaught and Delphox's megas turned out (regardless of the BS method of unlocking them).

[void brook]

I believe the mega gen 6 starters aren't behind a paywall.

[tawdry flame]

I like mega hawlucha, malamar, and victrebell a lot

[void brook]

They're just from ranked matches(PvP) I believe.

[tawdry flame]

I hate mega raichu

[copper sequoia]

True!

[copper sequoia]

Which is behind nintendo online which costs money

[spare roost]

Gotta love how the kalos starters megas are locked behind online. and the raichus are locked behind dlc

[void brook]

Isn't the same as the DLC for Raichu X and Raichu Y.

[acoustic igloo]

My sibling is the one paying for a family NSO plan, but I'm still not fond of that method.

[tawdry flame]

It's likely the dlc will have more new megas

so more pay walled

[lime void]

We literally know that it will

[copper sequoia]

I dont like dlc either i count ogerpon, bloodmoon, and pecharunt as paywall mons too

I guess tradings an option but it still sucks

But im not buying za so whatever

[acoustic igloo]

I'm okay with Ogerpon because it's not strictly a paywall mon, and she can be obtained fairly easily.

I do have a spare Pecharunt, but it was time-consuming.

[void brook]

ZA will be the last Pokemon game I buy if it doesn't meet my expectations.

[copper sequoia]

A lot of things shown in za totally killed my motivation to buy the game

for one thing i just think its stupid to have a battle focused game without abilities or stats

[void brook]

Legends Arceus also had the abilities part.

[acoustic igloo]

I'll probably pick it up, given the latest mainline game I actually didn't like was LGPE.

[void brook]

Did Legends ZA have no stats?

[copper sequoia]

hated it in pla too lol

[void brook]

You never stated that previously, so how was I supposed to know?

[copper sequoia]

Ok im being a little ridiculous about the no stats thing, basically the fact that stats just? mean less ig, no ivs no evs technically

[storm tinsel]

To be honest I wish IVs were never a thing because it's just grinding breeding for ten years

[copper sequoia]

It was ok in pla especially because the main focus was definetly catching with like 4 major battles, but in za where the story is literally about battling it feels a little dumb

[void brook]

I think the removal of EVs and IVs in ZA is fine.

[acoustic igloo]

I like what ROWE did in lieu of IVs.

Essentially, they replaced them with a system where you could increase each stat for a cost of three "trainer points," which were earned by levelling up your trainer. You could do this up to ten times per stat.

Zero boosts is equal to an IV of 0, and ten is equivalent to an IV of 31.

[icy basalt]

the home renders look kinda bad, these drawing of them look WAY better bro

[acoustic igloo]

I hope Mega Raichu X turns out to be part-Fighting.

[icy basalt]

im so glad my goat raichu got something

he's my favorite pokemon and now he has 2 megas lets fucking go

only thing i dont like is that the Y version is basically just an orange pikachu with more details

[lime void]

https://tenor.com/view/alolanraichu-pokemon-pokémon-gifs-raichu-raichu-alola-gif-20784971

[acoustic igloo]

Thing is, that was nine years ago.

[lime void]

You know what, I’m just gonna stop posting GIFs on my phone

[icy basalt]

when this guy came out i was hyped

i love alolan raichu broo

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-sleeping-raichu-alolan-raichu-gif-7407512776798283996

[unborn elm]

Yea

[copper sequoia]

i dont like the colors for the new raichus they look like jaundice otherwise theyre perfectly fine

[unborn elm]

Wonder if the gen 6 box legends are gonna get megas?

[lime void]

It hasn’t been long enough for it to get a remake, so it’s too soon. Plus, no Pokémon should get more then 1 mega

[unborn elm]

Charizard and mewtwo

Reject that

[lime void]

My point exactly

[copper sequoia]

Charizard i reject

Mewtwo i like what they did with the concept

[unborn elm]

They were game exclusives tho

[copper sequoia]

Im fine with them brains vs brawn thats cool

[unborn elm]

So it’s kinda fair if u only have 1 game

[lime void]

Still shouldn’t have happened

[unborn elm]

I saw a theory about charizard x

That it was a man made mega

[gray canopy]

DLC before the game drops 😬

[unborn elm]

Like mega mewtwos

[unborn elm]

Since it looks so different

[copper sequoia]

Not just that its also a fat 30 dollars!!! Yes!!!!@@

[gray canopy]

Holy slop greed

[copper sequoia]

I want to spend 90 dollars on a pokemon game🤤

[unborn elm]

Hoopa tho

[acoustic igloo]

Y's exclusives are chiefly why I prefer that game.

[gray canopy]

Last seitch game came out poor I can’t imagine both a dlc and game coming out would be any better

[icy basalt]

poor editing skills but if they made mega raichu Xs colors like this it wouldve been so much better

than just pikachu colors

[unborn elm]

HELL

YES

[storm tinsel]

Yeah that does look nicer

[unborn elm]

Should be the shiny

[copper sequoia]

Ok now this is awesome

[unborn elm]

Or sum else

[flat ledge]

Maybe a less red orange but still very nice

[copper sequoia]

Why is it yellow 💔

[icy basalt]

hopefully

[unborn elm]

It’s for that Pikachu factor

[icy basalt]

they wanted to make mega pikachu so bad bro 🥀

[storm tinsel]

Cause they want pikachu mega but can't mega evolve pikachu ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[unborn elm]

Mega Pikachu is raichu

[copper sequoia]

Raichu y looks so naked why doesnt it have raichus paw markings

[flat ledge]

X looks way better when its cheeks glow

[flat ledge]

Pikachu

[storm tinsel]

Raichu y's body is just pikachu

[unborn elm]

Exactly

[copper sequoia]

Ohhhh right i forgot

They wanted to make mega pikachu and not mega raichu

[unborn elm]

Both raichus have Pikachu factor

[copper sequoia]

My bad

[unborn elm]

It’s for that months

Money

[flat ledge]

Like straight up if you give Y X’s pallete it’s just bigger pikachu

[icy basalt]

literally just looks like a fusion

[unborn elm]

Exactly

Raichu still getting hoed

https://tenor.com/view/yo-mama-raichu-pikachu-gif-16673897613438231304

[icy basalt]

perfect for IF but doesnt look to good for a mega

[unborn elm]

Should be a new sprite

[flat ledge]

Honestly I’m still happy with X’s design, but the existence of Y and how much it also looks like pikachu is a bit eh

[unborn elm]

Raichu/raichu or raichu/pikachu

[icy basalt]

i was maybe planning to make one

for both

[unborn elm]

Do it

Cook

Cook the sprites

[flat ledge]

I’ve already seen raichu x done as pikachu raichu

It’s in spritework

[unborn elm]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-meth-gif-26319392

[icy basalt]

pikachu/raichu is X
raichu/pikachu is Y

[unborn elm]

Overall if they didn’t try to make it basically mega Pikachu I’d be fine with it

[icy basalt]

going back on this, i made it that red orange to suit gorochu a bit

[unborn elm]

It’s still good

[unborn elm]

Dude

[icy basalt]

maybe its a little too saturated

[unborn elm]

Raichu X looks so close to gorochuw

[flat ledge]

Yeah I saw that, but it feels a little too extreme

[icy basalt]

a fusion between mega X and mega Y is basically just gorochu if you think about it

[flat ledge]

Oh yeah

[copper sequoia]

Enough about raichu it’s time for some good mega designs such as THE KALOS STARTERS YEAAAHHHH

[unborn elm]

YEAAAAAA

[storm tinsel]

Why is da frog upside down

Free them

[flat ledge]

I love chesnaught so much

[robust wren]

Well, 2 out of 3 are good designs. Then there's Greninja who's just upside down for some reason and has no other major changes

[storm tinsel]

They have been suction cupped to the shuriken

[flat ledge]

But it’s still grass fighting he’s so cooked

[copper sequoia]

greninja is the weakest design for me but i still love it

[copper sequoia]

i love how they use their shiny colors

[unborn elm]

I just don’t like how greninja is upside down

[copper sequoia]

Honestly i think that’s the strongest part of the design for me

[storm tinsel]

Oh sick I didn't know we had images (wish we had the 2d drawings though but I think they're dead forever)

[robust wren]

Just a shame they had to be shackled to such an asinine requirement to unlock them

[unborn elm]

Just makes it har for me to process the design

[copper sequoia]

I hope and pray for when za comes out the sugimori art comes back :(((

[unborn elm]

Yall should vote on this

[copper sequoia]

Dragonite looks so ass but i can’t tell if it’s because the 3d model sucks or if the design itself actually sucks

[storm tinsel]

Sugimori art come back please

We miss you

[unborn elm]

I like the design

Ppl don’t like it bc it’s not edgy

Dragonite isn’t. Supposed to be edgy

[copper sequoia]

I’ve come to become neutral on dragonite

[unborn elm]

It’s a cute cuddly guy

[copper sequoia]

Literally make the back pair of wings bigger and clearly more feathery then i’d be ok

[unborn elm]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-dragonite-anime-angry-rage-gif-7380119

Hopefully the shiny isn’t the base shiny

Or ima be dragonite in that gif

[copper sequoia]

I think it would be funny

No actually make the shiny hot pink

Like mega garchomp

[unborn elm]

Or blue

Blue or pink is best case scenario

[copper sequoia]

Surprise! terrible shade of yellow

[unborn elm]

Watch them make it mega charizard X color lol

[void brook]

From what I've heard the DLC is released February 28 next year, so it's not day one.

[storm tinsel]

Correction, I love cute and cuddly. I don't like it because they should have done more, they should've gone cute and cuddly magical girl supreme.

[unborn elm]

It is cute

Also

It hits the fucking aura farm pose when it megas

https://tenor.com/view/dragonite-mega-evolution-mega-dragonite-pokemon-pokemon-legends-z-a-gif-2621029730494563423

https://tenor.com/view/frieza-pose-menacing-dragonballfighterz-dragon-ball-fighterz-gif-27469236

[void brook]

(Still doesn't make the DLC any better in my opinion)

[storm tinsel]

They kind of just slapped two disproportional wings on top of its head and called it a day, so it's eh for me, but that is just me.

[unborn elm]

Go vote on this ong ong

[storm tinsel]

Also it bothers me that it looks like its neck would get snapped trying to carry its weight in flight by only its head wings

[void brook]

Mega Dragonite is fine in my opinion, but I won't really use megas much.(I'll try to use them as little as possible despite them being so powerful.)

[copper sequoia]

if they do aerialate dragonite i will scream

Extreme speed hell

[storm tinsel]

At the end of the day, I don't like Dragonite and don’t find it cute either, so maybe mega Dragonite was just never going to be for me

[flat ledge]

I adore goofy megas but I don’t like dragonite that much the head wings don’t look very well integrated and the way they naturally curve around the head is weird

[unborn elm]

Yea that’s understandable

Should’ve been on the back

[flat ledge]

I like the idea of the head wings, like seraphs but I don’t think it was done super well

[unborn elm]

https://tenor.com/view/dragonite-pokémon-pokémon-legends-z-a-lumiose-city-kalos-gif-14917645894010092572

lol

[storm tinsel]

Awww

[flat ledge]

It’s usually balanced out by having huge wings on the knees and back but dragonite’s other wings are tiny

[storm tinsel]

See that drawing makes mega dragonite look cute

[unborn elm]

BECAUZE IT IS CUTE🤑🔥🤑🔥🤑🔥🤑🔥🤑🔥🤑🔥🤑

[storm tinsel]

And the little tiny wings fluttering like tiny bee wings makes it silly in an endearing way

[copper sequoia]

Now we just need a mega goodra and a mega kommo o and we can have every psuedo legendary with a mega since psuedo legendaries are infamously so weak and they just need the boost so badly

[unborn elm]

One dragon that needs it is

[copper sequoia]

Ok maybe goodra does need a mega nvm

[flat ledge]

Tbf goodra isn’t that good

[unborn elm]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-generations-haxorus-liepard-pokemon-gif-26635619

MY LE GOAT HAXOURUS