since articuno/rapidash screams bird to me but not to anyone else
#event-general
mild furnace
I was thinking of something with archeops and I was thinking if Archeops counts as a bird?
rain stump
because it's not exactly a bird
fallow bough
just make a sprite and think to yourself "Is this a bird?". For the sprite you posted before you need to think "Is this a bird. or a horse"
This is the main idea. Could it be seen as a bird? Is it actually a bird? Are you just trying to submit a frog? These are all questions that should be asked before submission.
naive summit
but nah slightly longer body means not bird
rain stump
it's a griffin
rain stump
I was thinking of something with archeops and I was thinking if Archeops counts as a bird?
of course
mild furnace
Does archeops count as a bird?
naive summit
good question
it has wings, feathers, but no beak, not really bean shaped, but two legs
wind topaz
Well, it has to be a Pokémon from the game, so that doesn’t matter
sleek drum
Checklist for you to use. You must have 4/5 ticks in order to pass.
@fallow bough blaziken is not a bird
wind topaz
Then edit the Reddit post, because the instructions state to use IF Pokédex numbers and nothing else
fallow bough
No they don't. 👀
wind topaz
Do it
Edit it to include what to do with Pokémon not in the game because it doesn’t say anything about them now
Say “use the Pokémon’s actual name” or something
fallow bough
It doesn't really matter much what to do with Pokémon not in the game because they're not in the game.
Thus they don't need a strict naming scheme.
wind topaz
🔫
mild furnace
It's just for the sake of the competition, not really to make new sprites for the game
burnt bane
yeet first entry boys
fallow bough
Yeah, I don't really care if you name a Bulbasaur/Charmander sprite "1.4" or "Bulbasaur/Charmander" or "Bulbamandasaur" so long as I can tell what it is, and that if you add it to the gallery you name it correctly there.
naive summit
also its pogging so it doesn't count
burnt bane
its an exception
wind topaz
I’m tired of people not submitting sprites of Pokémon in the game to gallery also though
fallen adder
A duck is a bird
fallow bough
also its pogging so it doesn't count
Yeah I won't include it in the final vote due to this. You have been warned. 👀
burnt bane
are you actually serious?
fallow bough
I’m tired of people not submitting sprites of Pokémon in the game to gallery also though
@wind topaz I very rarely see this, if at all.
burnt bane
or sarcastic?
fallen adder
Pretty sure he is sarcastic
naive summit
I'm p sure a chunk of the shroomish entries weren't submitted to gallery
wind topaz
I always see at least a few sprites not submitted to the gallery too
naive summit
though some people wait til after the contest I think
burnt bane
Pretty sure he is sarcastic
lets hope so
naive summit
hmm so im thinking
fallow bough
Oh I misread Knuckles' message.
burnt bane
cause pogduck will sweep
fallow bough
I dunno, it's not my fault if people don't put things in the gallery. 🤷
naive summit
I think some people just forget
wind topaz
I blame Isaac for reasons
rain stump
those reasons being
burnt bane
isaac wont add pogduck, isaac is the reason for everything going wrong
wind topaz
“I did the crime, I’ll do the time”
-Isaac, sometime in the future, probably
fallow bough
lets hope so
I would prefer if you submitted one that isn't pogging, since it verges on being a joke sprite. But for the most part I can't stop you. Although I really, really, want to. 👀
burnt bane
i mean it truly wasnt intended to be pogging ofc
rain stump
make it unpog
burnt bane
but have you seen rubber ducks? they look like they are pogging as well
crude cedar
@haughty laurel Congratz on 3rd place! yours was my favorite in the finals ^^;
burnt bane
@haughty laurel Congratz on 3rd place! yours was my favorite in the finals ^^;
fallow bough
Stan I absolutely have my eye on you. But you'll get away with it this time. 
wind topaz
Make it updog
crude cedar
?
burnt bane
Stan I absolutely have my eye on you. But you'll get away with it this time. :squint:
im scared
Make it updog
? whats updog?
wind topaz
Not much
burnt bane
rain stump
I am going to commit sin
wind topaz
“Did you hear Steve Jobs died of ligma?”
“Who’s Steve Jobs?”
“Ligma balls”
rain stump
huehuehue
rain stump
NOOOOOO
wind topaz
Sorry @rain stump
fallow bough
I feel like the moment has passed for the Isaac awards. 👀
wind topaz
The only time the Isaac award mattered was the first time, after that everyone forgot about it
wind topaz
and not just because I won the award the first time
fallow bough
and you just gave up the chance to win it this time by not encouraging me to do it
~~I mean what 👀 ~~
burnt bane
nah we still want the isaac vote
fallow bough
Honestly this was a tough competition for me to choose one for.
wind topaz
“I’m Isaac”
-Isaac, when introducing himself
fallow bough
Every sprite I voted for ended up in the finals by the end, so there was no clear "I really liked this sprite even though other people didn't".
“I’m Isaac”
-Isaac, when introducing himself
"Hi, my name's Isaac" is more my go-to.
But in the end I decided to go with the one that I voted for in the finals, since even though it did place, it was clearly my favourite since I, y'know, voted for it in the finals.
So congratulations (again) to @wind topaz. You have pleased both me and the voting base with this straight-forward, effective and well-made sprite. 🙏
Genuinely though, good job. Like damn.
wind topaz
We didn’t rig this at all
fallow bough
I'd have picked one of mine if it was rigged. 👀
misty acorn
Congrats to all the winners and to the first mod getting the contest champion role 🥳
quartz locust
Just wanted to say I really loved the idea of that Magnezone, the Stun Spore and Poison Powder was absolute genius. So congratulations to Knuckles! 😄
I've wanted to say that for days but it got through to the final so I couldn't. This really has been an amazing contest. 😃
ALSO, AVIAN CONTEST! 🐦
Is this sufficiently bird-like? It has wings, feathers, two legs and a beak, but isn't a bean. 😅
I think this has a similar problem. 😦
weary pagoda
I've read everything. I won't submit Artidash
throws his phone through the window
AÀÂÃÁÄÄRRRRGGGHHGHBL
wind topaz
It just clearly needs to be a bird @quartz locust
And I don’t think that Golduck’s wings are very good
They seem to be shaded in a completely different style from each other
quartz locust
They're not good, the more I look at that sprite the more problems I have with it. 😢
wind topaz
And the left one is made up of sharp feathers while the right has rounded feathers
clear linden
congrats knuckles on the comp
crude cedar
would this count as avian 🙂 as Togekiss is supposed to be a dove
quartz locust
It's got two legs and wings but no talons or feathers, and its beanage is dependable so I'm not sure. 😅
naive summit
talons isnt on the list
quartz locust
Oh I thought it was, or at least claws. 😂
naive summit
beak, feathers, wings, two legs and bird-shaped body are what isaac requested
at least 4 of them anyways
quartz locust
That one definitely isn't a bird. 😦
crude cedar
But its avian
clear linden
hm
naive summit
according to isaac, has to literally be a bird
not just bird-like
but almost entirely bird
clear linden
this contest is much more stringent than I thought
clear linden
im gonna skip this one
crude cedar
If you go to furaffinity and search for avian.. most results look like that B)
clear linden
and just focus on fun fusions
crude cedar
@fallow bough Lets hear your opinion
naive summit
thats because in the furry community, avian is used as a term for bird furries basically
these were his limitations
quartz locust
Which would explain the more anthro features. 😦
Oh, I was conflating the talons and two legs. 😅
crude cedar
It has a beak wings two legs and feathers
clear linden
the word avian means literally bird-like
clear linden
not even against a much stricter competition but it aint for me
crude cedar
It has two legs
naive summit
limbs, not legs
naive summit
he specified later
naive summit
or rather knuckles did anyways
crude cedar
Well its 4 of 5 aspects
crude cedar
according to https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/737765817474744350/776588314542473246/unknown.png?width=341&height=525 this its in
naive summit
he still wouldn't count it
quartz locust
The Gardevoir doesn't have wings though, does it? 😮
crude cedar
Who says it doesnt
naive summit
apparently the things attached to its dress are wings
crude cedar
yyes
quartz locust
Oh they're not. 😂
fallen adder
It's a contest where you make birds. The only reason there is such specifics stated by isaac now is because some of you are trying to squeeze in whatever sprite might slightly be inserted in
naive summit
The only reason specifics were stated by isaac was because people weren't sure if he meant bird-like or literally a bird
quartz locust
They're like the seams of a dress, I can't see them carrying flight at all. 😅
crude cedar
But if my gardevoir doesnt count
naive summit
apparently he meant literally a bird, not just with bird features so ;w;
it likely doesn't, sjoba
crude cedar
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/737765817474744350/776577834801823774/250.281.png this one wouldnt count either
naive summit
probably not, no
quartz locust
I didn't say it would. XD
naive summit
I mean by his standards, blaziken itself is not a bird LOL
crude cedar
you allways said you want an avian contest so you can submit that one
quartz locust
That's not relevant to being a bird. 😂
I mean I personally still see it as a bird but if it's not one according to the rules it's not one. 😅
naive summit
Probably because the idea of an avian contest was probably thought to be more having birdlike features rather than must be almost literally a bird
fallen adder
There are so many bird pokemon. It's not like there is an abundancy of cool ideas to do
fallen adder
ye. there is a lot of bird pokemon
quartz locust
I think the problem is there's only so many bird Pokémon usable in-game, and most of those are Kanto's boring brown ones. 😦
fallen adder
But you can just use it as the base
quartz locust
They're too similar though, at least the Kanto ones. 😢
I imagined an avian contest as basically just a Flying-type contest where things like Crobat even would count. 😦
naive summit
I imagined something a bit less strict, things with avian-like features rather than "literally a bird"
fallen adder
That is a very open contest
naive summit
most themed contests are open though
fallen adder
Something like this is really good in my opinion, and it's still a bird
quartz locust
Yeah I think this version specifically is too closed. 😢
naive summit
well yeah there's good bird fusions
but there's plenty of fusions with bird-like features that wouldn't qualify
like the ho-oh blaziken, which is literally a fusion of two birds but also doesn't count because of body shape and limb count
quartz locust
The only really interesting birds to fuse in-game (in my opinion) are Xatu, the legendary birds and Talonflame. 😦
fallen adder
But the point is this is for birds. And it's shown that they can be done very well. You shouldn't need to do any "bird featured" pokemon since there is so much you can do
quartz locust
Maybe Psyduck, but that possibly doesn't even count here. 😅
naive summit
technically I dont even know if the rubber duck psyduck/pory2 Stan made counts
it doesn't have feathers or wings so 
fallen adder
It's a duck wdym
burnt bane
It does
naive summit
but apparently thats an exception
burnt bane
Its bc its me
naive summit
its a duck but it doesn't conform to the restrictions literally everyone else has to follow
fallen adder
@naive summit please stop referring to the list isaac made. he made it solely because you didn't know how to define a bird by your own standards
quartz locust
I'm really confused... 😅
naive summit
my own standards are clearly different lmao
I know how I define a bird
he defines them differently, obviously
apparently this is not a bird
fallen adder
But it's not the correct way for this contest
naive summit
could say the same for the rubber duck
burnt bane
My duck fits more
fallen adder
At this point you should know what we want
burnt bane
Its. A. Duck.
fallen adder
It's a duck
naive summit
this is why this rule is stupid and constricting lmfao
his is a bird despite not ticking 4 boxes, that isn't a bird because it also doesn't tick 4
what is the logic here
quartz locust
I really am confused. 😂
naive summit
same
fallen adder
Nothing is going to change. Just make a bird. not some humanoid with bird features, or horse with bird features
naive summit
so can it be considered a bird if it doesn't tick off the boxes?
quartz locust
I still don't get this, it's a humanoid with bird features and not a bird with humanoid features...? 😦
naive summit
I'm trying to understand
burnt bane
Make a bird with frog features tho
fallen adder
Google "bird"
naive summit
someone's already making a venusaur/pidgeot
burnt bane
Yeah, I am
quartz locust
It's Stan. 😉
burnt bane
Lol
naive summit
idk the entire rule restriction is annoying and I'm probably not participating anyways since most of the birds to work with are boring
quartz locust
I wanted to enter but the thing I wanted to enter with is invalid. 😅
naive summit
but can't wait to watch some get rejected while others dont while they're all meant to follow the same restrictions 
quartz locust
I shouldn't have asked for this contest.
naive summit
the concept of the contest is cool, just the restrictions aren't
burnt bane
I shouldn't have asked for this contest.
Damn you blaq
quartz locust
It feels like a cruel joke that the reason I requested this contest is banned from entering the contest. 😂
Let's hope for an Egyptian one so I can say it's Horus.
naive summit
inb4 gets banned from entering that one too because "not egyptian enough"
quartz locust
I'm looking up definitions of birds and nothing about the shape is coming up at all, which seems to be the main problem and where wires are currently crossed. 😅
naive summit
that's because apparently to some people, birds specifically have to have that shape
because random restraints are neato
right is acceptable, left is not
bean shapes
not boot shapes
ig some rounder ones like natu and xatu are ight too
time for knuckles to enter all 151 natus
fallen adder
You are now taking Isaacs comments completely out of context. I know you read the around what he posted. If you aren't submitting to this contest please just stop talking about your frustrations towards it. I have stated several times now it's just a bird contest. you make birds.
quartz locust
I am submitting (or I at least want to) and I'm very confused. 😂
I mean I'm working on another sprite in the meantime, but I'm scared I'll get told that doesn't count. 😦
naive summit
just make sure it ticks the boxes
quartz locust
Articuno / Lugia. 😅
fallen adder
@naive summit stop
burnt bane
Should work
naive summit
so long as it ticks four boxes its fine, is it not???
fallen adder
@naive summit he posted them for you
burnt bane
Should have beak, feathers, wings and 2 legs
naive summit
He didn't post them specifically for me LOL
they're pinned here for a reason my guy
burnt bane
With even birb shape
quartz locust
Lugia's neck is long though. 😦
fallen adder
Everyone just ignore Howl please
naive summit
please dont pretend only I have to follow those restraints when he reiterated multiple times to multiple people that anything that doesn't tick four boxes wont be counted
fallen adder
I'll dm you @quartz locust
naive summit
he made it very clear to not just me
scroll back if you must
@fallow bough please clear this up that I'm not the sole person the restrictions were directed at
fallow bough
It's a contest where you make birds. The only reason there is such specifics stated by isaac now is because some of you are trying to squeeze in whatever sprite might slightly be inserted in
@fallen adder literally this. It's exactly what you all did for the reptile competition.
naive summit
so do we use the checklist or not???
why is it pinned??
I'm so lost right now holy shit
burnt bane
Just...stuff that looks like it would be a bird
naive summit
well yeah
burnt bane
Or close enough to a bird
naive summit
he was super specific earlier about what he considers a bird and what traits are required
burnt bane
Rubber duck is close
burnt bane
Blaziken thing..isnt
quartz locust
But I really don't know why...
naive summit
because people's opinions differ on what a bird is
my idea of a bird, your idea of a bird, and isaac's idea of a bird are all different
burnt bane
I havent seen a bird that looks humanoid in my life blaq
quartz locust
I promise I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just genuinely confused. 😅
burnt bane
Like straight up humanoid
naive summit
all I want is clarification lmao
naive summit
literally I can't even respond to questions without "literally just ignore them that comment only applies to them everyone else can do whatever they want"
it fucking hurts
its rude as shit
fallow bough
This is the main idea. Could it be seen as a bird? Is it actually a bird? Are you just trying to submit a frog? These are all questions that should be asked before submission.
@fallow bough > All I ever try to do is help people figure out exactly what they can do, and instantly they try to destroy any fabric of a competition I had.
@fallow bough > If it can be argued that it's bird shaped, such as Natu being a circle (but sort of like a bean), or Xatu still clearly being a bird, then I don't require it to be an actual bean.
@fallow bough > My bean shape may be artistic license.
@fallow bough > Shaped like a bird doesn't imply wings or two legs.
@fallow bough
fallen adder
You have clearly disregarded everything we have said to fit your agenda @naive summit
burnt bane
^
burnt bane
are you just trying to submit a frog looks at my venusaur pidgeot👀
naive summit
bla's just as confused as I am and I tried to answer with what I was told but apparently what I'm told and what he's getting told are entirely different things!?!?!?
what the fuck
fallow bough
If it's like 80% bird I'll let it slide.
@fallow bough > If it's any% frog it is not OK.
@fallow bough this is where it all stemmed from. I will not be profiling your sprites. I will not be categorising your sprites nor comparing them to a realistic genus of bird. All I care about is that your sprite at all resembles the theme "avian".
naive summit
so the pinned comments have no relevance?
burnt bane
The way BTA reacted was mostly because you kept saying the same stuff over and over..and over..and over
burnt bane
Wait now hold on, any %frog? So venugeot doesnt count
Now you're out here confusing me as well isaac
naive summit
I know the context of everything you're quoting Isaac, that still doesn't answer of whether or not you were serious about the pinned restrictions or if they only apply to me
which I'm not even making an entry so
quartz locust
Avian means 'relating to birds' and not necessarily 'is a bird', I'm really genuinely perplexed. 😅
Smeckledorfed, even. 😦
fallow bough
is this a bird?
@naive summit no, but it's avian enough for the sake of this competition. It is bird-like enough.
fallen adder
@naive summit reference to the pins if you are scraping along to make your fusion fit. If you are making what is clearly a bird. like a duck. you do not need to be within those checks
naive summit
okay so the pinned boxes aren't a rule
naive summit
they're a basic guideline that dont need to be enforced
right????
christ the whole conversation earlier was "we want birds, not bird-like"
quartz locust
Back to my original question, what about Sjoba's sprites? 😅
quartz locust
I just want to know where the line is for another potential fusion. 🙂
Oh wow it's midnight. 😮
naive summit
is just really not helpful when you say one thing then I get told differently then its like what the fuck anymore
I dont even know if there is a line
quartz locust
Actually I think for now we can put this discussion to bed for a bit because I think everyone's had their wires crossed and it's escalated when nobody has meant for it to. 😅
fallen adder
It's because at this point we are having to cave to your requests. @naive summit
burnt bane
😴
fallen adder
@naive summit why do you need it?
burnt bane
Isaac bout to scrap the competition
naive summit
because I want to know if its worth joining or not
I'd love to make something bird-like, just working strictly with birds stinks
fallen adder
You already said you weren't. you have just pushed us up into the point where the competition fits you wanting to enter. By just disregarding us completely. I'm not going to be a part of this anymore
naive summit
not that I can make anything worthwhile anyways, but knowing if I can make something interesting and unique like the ho-oh blaziken rather than just a bird would be nice
burnt bane
Isaac isnt there any design you can think of that would just barely enter, and let people use that as their guideline to what is and isnt acceptable
Or maybe, once this has all settled down, rethink of a clear way to make the rules again so everyone should understand it
naive summit
well yeah I wasn't going to join because I was under the impression that the pinned guideline was the rule and if it didn't meet those criteria, it wouldn't be permitted for entry
now I'm hearing differently
quartz locust
Maybe extending the competition a day or two and elaborating on the rules tomorrow (it's late for us Brits) could be a good solution. 🙂
fallow bough
Nah we're not doing this. Fuck themed competitions. This always happens, every single time. Caring less about the competition at hand and more about "can I fit in this sprite?". When they aren't so rigid that it's obvious what's accepted (such as self-fusion) the immediate thing is people trying to "find the line". What line? Why does there need to be a line? Why can't you just submit something that clearly fits instead of something that clearly fits? Every. Single. Time.
All this is supposed to be is an opportunity for creative freedom, but no, Every single entry has to just "barely fit" for some reason.
naive summit
Bla just wants to know because he's afraid of his WIP sprite not meeting criteria
I just want to know if I can do something more creative than just a bird and have it meet criteria
burnt bane
When looking at the criteria that wip of his would have been obviously accepted
naive summit
I dont want to toe the line. I want to submit something acceptable.
burnt bane
It really isnt difficult I'd say
Avian
Bird like
Make something that looks like it could be a bird
teal bone
Lmaooooo
burnt bane
Would a crocodile be accepted? No
naive summit
thats what I originally thought, was corrected, was corrected again
teal bone
The contest is canceled?
burnt bane
Is a griffin bird like? Not really, more like a horse
naive summit
I mean, it boils down to body shape ig
teal bone
Also if ‘find the line’ is your reason that’s a dumb reason
burnt bane
You wouldn't look at a griffin and say wow majestic bird
naive summit
this is clearly himanoid body shape bit is avian enough for entry
crude cedar
Thats Garudamon
burnt bane
Just make birds
teal bone
Easy shit
crude cedar
You entering digimon now?
teal bone
If someone submits a crocodile
burnt bane
Apparently
teal bone
Don’t vote for it
naive summit
this is clearly horse-like body shape but isn't avian enough for entry because,,,?
teal bone
It’s literally that fucking easy
tall moss
i agree isaac should be the one deciding what does and doenst count as "like a bird" but i would still like something more precise than "not a frog"
like, is latias a bird??
tall moss
it has feathers and stuff
outer prism
I think it's the same bird-like as a plane
rain stump
..latias has feathers?
naive summit
I still don't genuinely see what the difference in features is between articuno rapidash and ho-oh blaziken is, but it's your contest so you're opinion on what is bird enough and what isn't is more important in the end anyways.
naive summit
I think both or neither personally but they're not my entries so
fallow bough
Hard for it to be my contest when I don't particularly feel like running it at this stage.
outer prism
@fallow bough make me into a contestmanager.
tall moss
im sorry its so frustrating to get us to behave 😔
outer prism
I've just stopped production on my fakemon project, so I need things to do anyhow
naive summit
That's fair too, the whole thing just turned it off for a lot of people
silver merlin
Hello!, im back!
naive summit
welcome back to my sleepless hell
silver merlin
👀
fallow bough
im sorry its so frustrating to get us to behave 😔
@tall moss my rules from the start were clearer to me than they were to other people. Normally I don't mind this as much, but here I was specifically after birds and genuinely couldn't understand why people were making not-birds. My attempts to open the contest further are in many ways what absolutely killed it dead.
silver merlin
Maybe make a sort of faq box on what avians is? 🙂
fallow bough
@fallow bough make me into a contestmanager.
@outer prism we barely even need two, though. 👀
outer prism
You just said you're losing your flair
tall moss
i agree, an FAQ, with like, "are gryphons/platypuses/x pokemon a bird?" would help
fallow bough
I was using the definition for avian being a noun that means "a bird", as opposed to the adjective.
outer prism
Just a suggestion
tall moss
nick you just want to usurp isaacs throne :y
fallow bough
You just said you're losing your flair
@outer prism Are you trying to usurp me while I'm down? 👀
tall moss
same thinking
outer prism
Oof.
Not my intention
Strike the iron while it's hot.
That---- is practically the same
So sorry
naive summit
Lol
silver merlin
like, heres my idea on how to reopen this competition, edit the message, and make it say "Heres a litle FAQ box on what avians are, and what you should submit.
- [insert avian talk here]
2+. etc
fallow bough
I mean it never technically closed. I was going to, but I didn't feel up to making an announcement on its closure, so it remained open.
naive summit
Tbf nobody had submitted outside of the pogduck and Sjoba's definitely-not-a-bird Garde
outer prism
Now I just feel bad
silver merlin
Don't.
naive summit
Bla was still working on his entry though I think
tall moss
dont cancel the comp 😢
fallow bough
If I don't make an announcement on anything, always assume whatever I previously said still stands.
By which I don't mean that I would have expected a lot of entries, but that I would have come back to make a poll on the three or so sprites that I did get.
naive summit
Yeah the shroomish one was oddly popular
fallow bough
Yeah but the Shroomish Competition didn't appear to be abandoned. 👀
silver merlin
fallow bough
Alright, I'll leave it open.
rain stump
thank you jesus 🙏
fallow bough
It genuinely felt too cursed to continue, but I can do it for Kiwi's Stunfisk/Quagsire.
silver merlin
tall moss
oh no i have to make the mud fish "bird" a reality now
silver merlin
Will you add the FAQ box i talked about then, or what?
naive summit
Oh God why is it 1am
fallow bough
I was going to type one up, but I ended up with a lot of the same language I had last night (such as 80% bird).
I want to know what you perceived the rules to mean, so I can attempt to make it less confusing.
naive summit
You could do a short poll on it maybe, get some general opinions
acoustic hare
i perceived the rule to be "your sprite has to meet 4/5 of these criteria" cause...that was what was pinned
tall moss
my understanding is that 6 limbed fusions (gryphons, humanoids with wings tacked on) are inelligible ay least
acoustic hare
but then sprites that didn't meet the criteria were allowed so
fallow bough
The aim was meant to be:
Bird
If not bird: 80% bird
naive summit
That's how I perceived it too once that was pinned, which is why shit got confusing when bla came asking questions
fallow bough
But it didn't work out, so I'm ignoring it. The point is that it wasn't clear. BTA and I had different definitions of what I had pinned too, which was already not meant to be the whole idea.
naive summit
But tbh something more open like the reptilian one would be nice? It wasn't "must have scales, sharp teeth and claws" but more "generally has reptilian features."
The sprites in that contest were very creative and had some cool variation
tall moss
it would be nice but thats not what isaac was going for so i think thats bettwr left fot another contest
fallow bough
So long as there's no amphibians in my somewhat-bird contest.
naive summit
rip Stan's venusaur pidgeot
fallow bough
it would be nice but thats not what isaac was going for so i think thats bettwr left fot another contest
@tall moss I don't really mind. My goal is a contest people feel they can enter rather than a contest that is necessarily what I want.
naive summit
Frogbird activate
tall moss
well i would still specify a bird-like body plan or something 👀
fallow bough
Like I don't have strong feelings over the rules here. I just want to see what people can make with them, so whatever is open enough to work but closed enough to still be a competition is fine with me.
naive summit
Idk man in the end all of this is subjective to some degree
silver merlin
Flying type contest.
burnt bane
Well then
silver merlin
Make it anyways, it looks great.
burnt bane
Have we finally decided on the rules or
fallow bough
Do not submit frog
This is the one rule.
burnt bane
B.. but my venusaur🥺
fallow bough
If it's enough like a bird, I'll even accept a frog Pokémon.
silver merlin
- No frogs.
naive summit
Frogbirddddd
fallow bough
If you can make a frog look like a bird then more power to you.
naive summit
Imagining a dart frog with wings disturbs me
silver merlin
Frogbirddddd
When you said this i thought of a fusion beetween Frogmans's pfp and Pidgeot. 👀
naive summit
This is going to star in my dreams isn't it
burnt bane
No one saw that
naive summit
Ahh
burnt bane
No
silver merlin
not at all
naive summit
Frog Dino bird
silver merlin
Poggers boom.
tall moss
give it a beak and its a bird :y
fallow bough
Wide beak.
naive summit
That reminds me of the pidgeot / Nidoqueen in the gallery
tall moss
naive summit
That sprite disturbs me to some degree
The wide beak looks like lips and it's scary
burnt bane
Also nah I ain't gonna give it a beak lol
If I cant enter it then, too bad
This design is too solid to beakify
naive summit
Yeah a beak would look odd on such a wide face I think
silver merlin
tall moss
you can have a small beak on large mouths 🤔
naive summit
Oh no
tall moss
but beakless still looks good 👀
rain stump
imma do whimsicott/altaria and make it look somewhat like mega altaria
naive summit
Stan's sprite makes me want to scratch sprite so maybe I'm figure out an idea in the morning, whether it works for the contest or not
Inspiration is nice and hard to come by
fallow bough
@burnt bane you can enter that, it's an A in bird.
burnt bane
Yay
naive summit
Whimsicott Altaria.. Maximum fluff
burnt bane
"It's an A in bird"
~Isaac 2020
naive summit
Nothing will ever beat pogduck in my heart
tall moss
an a in bird... a bard
burnt bane
naive summit
Pogduuuuuck
fallow bough
@tall moss you are now legally obligated to make your Stunfisk/Quagsire.
silver merlin
alright
burnt bane
Damn isaac for not making the emote
naive summit
Can I throw that on my solo server to use with nitro
burnt bane
Y e s
silver merlin
Moltres/Talonflame
naive summit
Glorious
tall moss
aite now that all the confusion has been resolved, i will head to sleep, gnight erryone ❤️
silver merlin
Good night you wholesome bean. ❤️
rain stump
did you just call a person a bean
fallow bough
If birds can be beans then why can't people?
silver merlin
Exactly!
tall moss
nice timing
silver merlin
Hahah funny number 
rain stump
the heck is a timezone 
silver merlin
Some idiot wanted to make confusion, thats a timezone.
rain stump
insult us in french if you are
tall moss
im french canadian :y
silver merlin
bageutte
rain stump
and she
unreal radish
éspece de canard
silver merlin
well
tall moss
espèce *
unreal radish
should have thought about that
silver merlin
in denmark, insulting is uh.. a little weird.. 👀
unreal radish
dah
teal bone
I’m gonna submit a frog now
silver merlin
Din fucking idiotiske røvhul.
teal bone
Just because Isaac said not to
rain stump
ah
silver merlin
now dont ban me 👀
tall moss
heres an insult: vous êtes des personnes merveilleuses et je suis heureuse de faire partie de cette communauté
teal bone
Chinga tu madre
silver merlin
we should stop talking about insults here. 👀
rain stump
if anyone was to be banned it would be me for peer pressure 
heres an insult: vous êtes des personnes merveilleuses et je suis heureuse de faire partie de cette communauté
aw
silver merlin
we should stop talking about insults here. 👀
tall moss
google translate it >:B
silver merlin
I er vidunderlige mennesker, og jeg er glad for at være en del af dette samfund.
huehue
unreal radish
aaaaaw Kiwi :3
silver merlin
rain stump
but it isn't related to either
quartz locust
Cause it's a fekkin garudamon
That doesn't make it not bird-like. 😭
lime latch
So it is a “make a frog look like a bird competition“?
quartz locust
Hail is the worst. 😦
silver merlin
I love rain. 👀
silver merlin
how are you still here then
unreal radish
4G ?
lime latch
Let it snow
rain stump
yes in australia
in summer
heck
power out again
time to waste mobile data again
quartz locust
You're an Aussie? 😮
misty acorn
Having summer in November is kinda cringe
misty acorn
Slightly less cringe, but still cringe 
rain stump
You're an Aussie? 😮
through and through, mate
dusk schooner
Australian weather in general is pretty cringe
quartz locust
Oh wow I didn't know that, I love Australia! Really want to go there some day. 🙂
silver merlin
Danish weather is uh, Rain, More Rain, Wind, Wind, COLD.
misty acorn
I prefer cold over hot.
One of the reasons I would love to move to scandinavia one day
silver merlin
👀
quartz locust
It's much easier to make yourself warmer than it is to cool down for sure. 😄
dusk schooner
Facts
quartz locust
So I like colder temperatures because of that, but the heat makes me think about holiday, and honestly I just love Australia so I'm very tempted to move to there or maybe (because the politics are better, but let's not get into that) New Zealand. 🙂
dusk schooner
Tasmania has really weird weather, where it will often rain and be like 28°C in the same day, I hate it
rain stump
at least have reason to chill out in an air conditioned room
quartz locust
I didn't know you were Australian too, Xillo! 😮
I've only ever had air conditioning when I was on holiday in Salou and it was fantastic. ❤️
dusk schooner
Spain does seem like a cool place to atleast visit one day
rain stump
never been outside the country moment
dusk schooner
Same
quartz locust
Spanish is my favourite language so I may be slightly biased. 😂
To be honest the only reason we go is the proximity, my mum can't travel far because of her back so the fact we're so close to places like Spain, Germany and France means we can go, and (currently) without all the faff of VISAs. 😅
Although now I go on holidays with friends instead it's still helped that we're so close to so many amazing countries. ❤️
rain stump
Haven't had a proper power outage like this in years
rain stump
when do I get my internets back
weary pagoda
This contest is like how Knuckles judges fusions
TIGHT ||that's not a bad thing tho||
fallow bough
Spanish is my favourite language so I may be slightly biased. 😂
@quartz locust you sure seem to use English an awful lot. 👀
rain stump
I might as well have an early night seeing as power's not gonna come back anytime soon
crude cedar
Ill make a birb today
rain stump
wish I could
crude cedar
A frog aswell maybe
silver merlin
huehue
crude cedar
I think ill just creat a bunch of sheeps
rain stump
I am going to make ultimate floof bird
dusk schooner
Silkie Hens are floof birds
rain stump
cool
quartz locust
@quartz locust you sure seem to use English an awful lot. 👀
If I knew Spanish well enough I'd be speaking in it a lot more regularly. 😅
rain stump
I am going to die from heat if my fan does not turn back on during my sleep due to power coming back
silver merlin
My plans are, Porygon/Lugia and Moltres/Talonflame.
rain stump
reminds me of when trubbish was still here
silver merlin
the golden one, or the other one?
rain stump
the golden one?
silver merlin
The slakoth one.
rain stump
the other one
rain stump
can we stop talking like this yet?
lime latch
no
silver merlin
never
silver merlin
No i'm Katten. :wheeze:
burnt bane
lime latch
so no slowly baked Will for us? 😦
rain stump
unfortunately no
lime latch
but im hungry
rain stump
I don't think bricks are too appetising
silver merlin
eat food then
lime latch
urgh human food
silver merlin
dont eat me
rain stump
don't encourage him
lime latch
At least Katten is reachable, there is no ocean to stop me
crude cedar
What is a bird...
I might do pidgeotto and talonflame
Or like. Mamoswine and a birb
Dont ask
lime latch
lmao
supple epoch
@sleek drum Make sure you add your name to your contest submission. Just wanted to let you know
sleek drum
Oops i forgot to do that
crude cedar
bird contest is still a thing right
silver merlin
Yes, and gg you win.
crude cedar
well not rly
too early to say that
where am i supposed to upload it?
where is the link to the drive
fallow bough
In the initial post about the contest there's a Reddit link with more rules and a link to the drive.
fallow bough
It's the second newest post from the bottom.
crude cedar
found it
wind topaz
You don’t look like a bird
burnt bane
Remake your og fusion uni
wind topaz
Make some fusions for the charts
burnt bane
Yesss
burnt bane
I mean itd be like a kiwi I guess
craggy galleon
Birb. yes or not?
wicked onyx
this confuses me
wicked onyx
bawk
im thinking about trying the contest this time, is there like a role i have to give myself?
burnt bane
Lol
craggy galleon
nah, just follow the rules
wicked onyx
sweet
craggy galleon
the role is to get notified of updates
wicked onyx
got it
fallow bough
Birb. yes or not?
@craggy galleon rock birb is enough bird and enough not frog for me.
wicked onyx
Not frog
silver merlin
i hope it will be good for the contest
fallow bough
So nice to see SpleensJuice around. I love that name.
wicked onyx
I am honored
silver merlin
hi honored, im Katten.
tall moss
politoed/politoed but with a ton of long creepy fingers that form wings 
silver merlin
fallow bough
Katten did you ever ask out that girl? 👀
silver merlin
Uhh shhh
fallow bough
I'm on my way to Denmark right now to tell her for you.
silver merlin
wicked onyx
o h n o
fallow bough
politoed/politoed but with a ton of long creepy fingers that form wings
@tall moss I am both disgusted and intrigued.
silver merlin
Welp, time to go to Sweden.
tall moss
first stunfisk/quag, now this, at this rate all my bird contest entries will be amphibians 😂
craggy galleon
I present to you one of my first Sprites/Fakemon. Keke the Frog
wicked onyx
I-
silver merlin
just wanna tell you how im feeling
gotta make you understand
never gonna give you up
silver merlin
I couldn't resist. 👀
wicked onyx
who can resist Rick Astley?
crude cedar
https://youtu.be/6tdNw41xqa4.... Easy to follow even for a toddler ..
fallow bough
I really thought that was going to be a meme.
tall moss
these kinda tutorials infuriate me
fallow bough
craggy galleon
Just realized a Nosepass + bird would fly always looking to the north
fallow bough
What happens when it hits the north pole?
fallow bough
Gravity has been solved.
lime latch
I'm on my way to Denmark right now to tell her for you.
Just checked earlier, i can drive anywhere in denmark within 8 hours
fallow bough
I'm on foot.
silver merlin
Good luck. 👀 , and dont get cluster-5 on the way. :wheeze:
wicked onyx
Isaac can walk on water so hes good
sonic furnace
So @fallow bough regarding the rules for the contest, is 30% Frog and 70% Bird acceptable?
sonic furnace
Yeah, It’ll be a bird. Just a Frog Bird
fallow bough
The frog message is more that I don't care how it's justified, if it's just a frog, it's not a bird. But if it's some percentage frog then I'll accept it if it's mostly bird. The bird bit is the important bit.
sonic furnace
I know I’m just joshing, if anything I know what I want to do for the contest now
fallow bough
Is it a frog?
burnt bane
isaac what is it with your hatred against frogs 🥺
sonic furnace
Probably Politoed/Pidgeot or another Bird
burnt bane
but why frogs
sonic furnace
But they can be 😉
fallow bough
People entered amphibians into the reptile competition, and I just want it to be clear that amphibians are not birds either. They are amphibians.
burnt bane
what about toads 
fallow bough
There's enough bird there. 👀
burnt bane
good 👀
fallow bough
I already said you had enough bird. 
burnt bane
nah this was more about the whole frog stuff
cause this is a toad, not a frog
so huehue
also, does it have enough b e a n
fallow bough
A toad is a type of frog though.
sonic furnace
It could also be considered as a Synapsid
silver merlin
ohno
fallow bough
Sjoba what is it with you and boobs? 👀
silver merlin
Sjoba is Sjoba.
burnt bane
a man of culture, thats all
silver merlin
and gardevoir
crude cedar
i saw that while browisng talon glame XD
@fallow bough https://i.imgur.com/aeQj7Gk.png
my actuall entry atm
is that bird enough?
burnt bane
no
wicked onyx
What if i did 100% frog for the contest
fallow bough
It's decently bird-like. Bit too frog for me.
burnt bane
where is the bird in there
fallow bough
What if i did 100% frog for the contest
I would compare you to Knuckles.
burnt bane
What if i did 100% frog for the contest
isaac comes to your home to bann you
from life
wicked onyx
oh no
burnt bane
🔨
wicked onyx
Time to barricade my house
silver merlin
I would compare you to Knuckles.
Knuckles wins.
fallow bough
@quartz locust Gligar has 18 sprites, so it'll take a while to reach it if I use the Pokémon with the least sprites as competition themes. 👀
Plus it only has the second least of all the non-new Pokémon. It's not even at the bottom.
@pastel fog
pastel fog
left garnet
where do i submit the pics for the contest?
normal nebula
Don't think I'm going to come up with a "funny" entry idea in time for that deadline and for me to pull it off well. Oh well.
tall moss
😔
a purposefully bad sprite could be funny 👀
enter a single black pixel on a white canvas
call it a jigglypuff/jigglypuff seen from above, but from far away
wicked onyx
just a second
normal nebula
I still have my personal standards of wanting to make something that actually looks like a fusion and wouldn't look too out of place in the game
wicked onyx
A piece of modern art
tall moss
incredible
mild furnace
So...
wicked onyx
truly beautiful
mild furnace
For some reason I totally forgot about the sponsored contest
tall moss
😂 dont enter that for real tho i was jk
mild furnace
which is probably because I came up with ideas so fast
wicked onyx
I think Isaac might kill me if i did
tall moss
get spriting pengu
wicked onyx
im not certain
mild furnace
I forget, I think it was Miltank/Tauros for the Polish Cow? Also I listened exclusively to Polish Cow 1 hour version while making that sprite
😎
mild furnace
I mean I already have 3 entries in 😳
wicked onyx
A true man of culture
mild furnace
I also made Jynx/Sharpedo shark pog because why the hell not
tall moss
i love a lot of the entries but also idk memes so i dont get a lot of them
mild furnace
I got the idea when I was randomizing on Pokemon Fusion generator and found jynx as the head which made a bunch of pogging fusions, so I got the idea for shark pog
Honestly those kinds of memes don't really need context to be funny
especially a bad 3d model of a cow tilting left and right to a polish song about ||cocaine addiction||, which is not the point.
wicked onyx
now im going to place the leat fingies on this contest
fallow bough
I think Isaac might kill me if i did
@wicked onyx No, but BTA might. 👀
wicked onyx
oh no
viscid kiln
What is the better fusion with Bulbasaur ?
normal nebula
actually I just got an idea, but it'll be tough pulling it off in a day
fallow bough
What is the better fusion with Bulbasaur ?
@viscid kiln Like, out of every Bulbasaur fusion?
viscid kiln
Yes who pokemon are the best of fusion with bulbasaur
tall moss
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/769299599012659291/776677376029491210/unknown.png i made a collage of all the birds (and mons with bird-like features at the bottom) that are in IF, for peeps that want an easy visual ref 👀 other mons not on this can be made into birds too of course
wind topaz
Zekrom is not a bird
tall moss
it has wings :y bird like features
wicked onyx
Reshiram
wind topaz
They don’t have feathers
wicked onyx
the best bird
wind topaz
And they leviatate
tall moss
check the dex entries knux 😂
crude cedar
Might just use a latios or latias to make a fusion
wind topaz
As if those matter
Not saying you can’t make a bird with fusions of those Pokémon, but they aren’t birds themselves
Most of them are dragons
tall moss
id say theyre some percent bird
if you dont think theyre birds, dont use em :Y
i think theyre birdier than golduck personally
tall moss
cresselia is birdish imo
wind topaz
Banned
lime latch
Cresselia is an alien
wind topaz
My favorite bird, Regigigas
tall moss
if my stunfisk/quagsire can be a bird, anything can :y
zekrom and kyurem are by far the lest birdy on that pic but idc its just a quick visual ref 😂
wind topaz
Your Stunfisk isn’t a bird
lime latch
ignore knuckles, he is not a contest manager
tall moss
i like arguining pointlessly with knuckles tho
lime latch
he will knuckle you
tall moss
word of god says i have to make my stunfisk for the bird comp, ergo, tis bird
lime latch
||to knuckle -> changing your nickname to smth stupid||
wicked onyx
I bet its cute
tall moss
inb4: nickname me birdbrain
wicked onyx
the stunfisk quagsire
wind topaz
ignore knuckles, he is not a contest manager
@lime latch But I can become one
Isaac bird when?
tall moss
you make it
crude cedar
Dodrio / Mamoswine
wicked onyx
Beautiful
tall moss
doduno?
wicked onyx
Doduswine
lime latch
not really
fallow bough
Banned.
cinder dew
crude cedar
Dab on them haters
wicked onyx
Does Rico Rodriguez from Just Cause using his wingsuit count as a bird
wicked onyx
lmaooooooooo
wind topaz
We already have a frog bird entry in the contest
burnt bane
Its a toad
crude cedar
Not really frog in the end
Ho-oh / Politoed
not much politoed
gonna scrap this
tall moss
i like it tho 😮
crude cedar
thx xs
craggy galleon
if you told me that was a new reginal ho-oh i'll believe it
quartz locust
Yeah it looks great so far! 🙂
wind topaz
I was talking about Venusaur/Pidgeot
bleak patio
