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at least 4 😌
wait is this is yes or are you also weighing options
You are the only collab I’m considering so far
I’m figuring out what you want to do 
And i still have claimed concept arts to sprtie 
-# oh Gods chanso why did u make delphox/drago so painful
i would be happy (for a certain def of happy considering it's zekrom /lh) to do this
Zek or Rom?
Zek/Eel
Zeke
rom
i actually had the possibility of this (well, something with eel) contest in mind when making this base concept
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1458121163355062377
but i haven't thought beyond that
I can work with that pose if you’d like 
sure! 
well see i started w the mega delphox palette and went downhill from there 
The rollout didnt miss 
someone's gonna
me from the list
already got some bangers, the bottom one is out of my spriting zone though but in my head it sound sick
I nearly did it too
put yourself in twice and name your Team Steelyxsylvian
That would only work if onyx was beldum 
why would I? that's a valid team 
now to figure out how to get the superscript in a file name 
Worm²
i don't even think you can put carets in a file name either
worm+worm=worm
it's a valid unicode character 
Now do it 3 more times for 4 entries 
I think I have my 4 entry ideas down
Now that would be an invalid team if it's more than one since that'd be
A repeat team 
now executing them is the fun part
eelexeggcute
Why are u killing them

ANyone want to team up with me?
Sure got an idea?
oh ... we have almost 3 weeks
i just got excited and started scribbling out concepts
Lmao bro is hyped
🤔 if i do more fusions, i'll probably do some concept art or smth
let someone pick it up
or i'll grab someone's
Its best to do it now so the concepts can be made easier in pixel format
You think I would give you a small amount of time for 4 possible collabs?
That's cruel punishment for fun
I can't draw for nothing aside from skribbling so here goes nothing it seems
... I totally could do Lebanne for Dragalge, huh?
I mean Swoobat is next, but like
...huh
Z-A spoilers ||Still funny how the two pokemon that won the vote ended up getting Megas||
Scolipede has plenty of fusions, so maenading for Corbeau is unnecessary 
"maenading" 
PIF dodgeball 
Like I didn't even consider than this contest
could've also been Dragalge
It could've been both damnit
god damnit
Next event Is Just making a mega swoobat design 
i was honestly expecting both
Nah the way I have it lined up is like
Eel is Jan
Swoo is Feb
Drag is March
Go from there
And unlink Eel here
Those two aren't gonna take the whole month
Expect me to pass February (nothing personal)
All double troubles?
nope
eel is april too 
-# 
none of 'em are a rush dw
I c
Nuh uh 
April fools compe 2026 
Also sadge so that means i have to actually Sprite for the next events smh
April Fools is indeed April
Insane
But who says it's a contest this year
April fool rush were we rush a never if mon so It's totally pointless 
what happened to april fools 2025 gordo 
I still have this concept art that can be sprited.
Big boi
Smol eel big whale

how many people will do a non-eelektross i wonder
~~maenad = anyone who throws their underwear on stage
~~
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maenad
Redraw it in a slightly different pose 
goddamnit chat moved too fast so my reply makes no sense now
You ain't ready for this
For my idea which was mentioned earlier it works
And besides, 2 of my other ones are Tynamo
gordo what if we did a mega (same idea, just with extra mega stone) 
/hj
I have a Mega fusion, a G-Max fusion and two tynamo to work on lol
too late, i'm booked 
oh wait
i'm collab with you
I thought that was onyx who said that 
yes
mega gives more swirly bits to play with but might be more annoying to give a spiritomb-y texture to? idk
Ah since you’re here @slow gyro do you still wanna do a collab with me for the kommo-o and eelektross fusion? I thought you meant kommo-o head and eelektross body, in which case it wouldn’t interfere with the collab I have with Wooper, but even if it’s the reverse I’d be down for two collabs on the same fusion coz it seems funny 
I might be better at drawing on phone
We can collab on something different anyways, I don’t have any ideas for an eel body
Well I do have one
Camerupt/Eelektross
Welp guess jokes on me, an eelektross/aerodactyl hit spritework 22 hours ago, but if anyone wants to 2 cake this sucker with me, I'm down
Oh sure! This for the contest?
Yep
You want me to color it or I can outline it better, or if you want to color/ bounce back and forth that's cool too
Could u color it? Outlines are fine I've done on messier
I think idr well
Wait hold up does anyone wanna do an eelectross/gyarados with me
I could even do both as mega 👀 (and maybe a non mega version?)
I mean 
Smh, take my cool concept
Wherez
Epic!
You alright if I concept it?
Also what should be our team name?
Yep! Cuz i have no idea on that and u seem like u are excited for it 
Uh HappyLabRats
?
I still have free spaces for Camerupt/Eelektross and Eelektross/Dragonite
Both double megas
And whatever I end up doing with Trayal
I mean… hero if you need a partner I’m up for either
So am I lol 
Spriting this is gonna be a bitch but I love how it turned out
Actually could I do dragonite?
since local is fine with either
Sure thing
You get the Camerupt then 
I’ll work on the designs later today or tomorrow
I’m almost done with ZA’s story 
Im not a creative namer so u got a team name idea or will it just be HappyDrawimg 
DaHeroCute 
I bought the game just to replay arceus again cuz i prefer running for my life over cities 
Sure 
I haven’t play Arceus smh
Today I went to a big plaza to see if I could buy it, and a lot of switch games had discounts
But there wasn’t any copies of Arceus 
@cedar quest how would our team name be? HeroGamR?
I put one already change it to what you want 
What did you put? 
I have no idea what I will make for this, but hopefully it will be good or maybe a partner will inspire me.
yep im stumped.... what to make for funny eel hm...
I honestly have got no ideas so I’m down for whatever
(tho I prefer dragon-like bodies typically coz I’m best with those but mega camerupt could be fun 👀 )
You’re too late for the Camerupt 
Darnnn alright 
I mean id suggest another UN purely for the pain of it but its a very different pain than kommo-o
What’s an UN???
I’m definitely not doing a UN 
Fair enough 
I think I got a rough idea for a kommo-o head mega eelektross body if you’re down for that, buuut it’s not a finished idea yet just the bare basics until I can doodle a good enough mega eelektross pose
Oh yea that can work with me
If I’m not the one designing it I’m fine 
OOO
I just can’t visualize it
I can visualize a scaly rope -v-
I usually figure out the details as I go along
Honestly your mega meganium idea also sounds really fun
We can go with whichever you prefer 
I uhhhhhh… pops into flip a coin
1: kommo-o
2: meganium
Coin: neither one or two but it’s tails so I’m counting that as a meganium win 
I’ll probably put the kommo-o sketch idea into concept art if someone wants to collab with me on it >:)
I would
I love a challenge as shown by the Mewtwo I have in mind
Heck if I can't make Tynamo/Solrock I actually might draw Eelektross/UN
Just not Mega I mean we have enough Mega Eelektross fusions now
Legends za inspired announcement ! This totally means gen 9 is coming to pif now

worm is trolling 
That sounds like it has a lot of potential
No not really. I might put myself too
I'm just giving it time first
the contest allows solo entries but making a team with yourself is cheeky 
Eh, I already have 2 ideas ready to be sprited anyways
And besides I'm more of a people to ask me kinda guy if that makes sense. Also competition is already pretty high considering exo has a sprite made already, but I'm trying not to give up over whose made what. I'm not in these to win I'm just here for fun.
Nvm partner maybe found soz
i literraly just had time to see the message xD
timing is perfect
If the maybe isn't going well i'd be interested !
(Cali does be better than me Imo tho, I love their work)
if you’re good with concept art or something like it, could we collab?
Sure. I have one concept already, technically 2 but it's a pretty crappy drawing
if you mean this it is incredible 
That's one of them
Not superman too........
Yes. The other one was a Eelektross/Gengar which was the one that was pretty bad butbthe idea is pretty strong
alright, I will start working on it
This one that was made on my computer
Compared to the Mewtwo that was made via my phone
If you have any questions on whats what or if you need to tweak anything, just message me.
gotta do it again 😔
i have at least one more slot, so if you’re doing the concept art or a rough sprite or something would you like a collab with me 
i'm not good at concept art 
well i'm good at concepts, just not expressing them through actual media
if you have an idea, i might be able to do the rough sprite. unlikely though so you’d be better off finding someone else 
i can try to do the art
which member of the line do you want and would you prefer a head or body
eelektross as a body probably
wouldn’t mind a head though, feel free to do anything
idk, i think it could probably use some normal sprites but at the same time the mega would probably do better in the contest 
i guess it also depends on the fusion
ooo i have a cool idea
relicanth/eelektross where the other heads are covered in kelp and stuff
oh, that could be really cool
might not be event winning material though 
we'll just have to make a really cool pose
Every sprite is event winning material ! or at least its more hopeful to think it
true but there are definitely some fusions that lend themselves better to more advanced spriting techniques
ye, also true
Btw, if someone has a little guy™ idea that might not be event winning material i'm down for it. i love em
yeah, i do expect a lot of eelecktross (that pokemon is a hell to spell)
it’s just that but without the c 
it deserves at least one more letter, let it have that
eeeleektroos
I've had Tynamo/Celebi written down as an idea
Perfect.
I'll have to update the page with who I'm collaborating with later. It's 8:00 and I'm still really tired
oh yeah @abstract blade you said you wanted to collab some time, you got any entries free?
so its more of a lets see later ?
i js filled up my four 
Well its you and Mars right now. I think I'll be making my Eelektross/Gengar so that leaves 1 more slot which might be Tynamo/Solrock or something
Tynamo Solrock sounds familiar
but mr gill have a pic of my beautiful child mogging
oh nice
ultra sun/moon?
yessir
i recognised it from the UI 😭
u have any thoughts on an eelektross ur gonna do tho?
found why
Ah ok
i can replace one of my own concepts to do a collab but it js depends
My idea was way different
well i'm doing a relicanth head with mars, in terms of any other ones i can think of a few things
well you can still do it (plus this is unposted)
would you want a head or body
Fair
alr well if u think of smth u can always js send a dm
I think I have an idea: I have two collabs going so I think I'll take over the other two to split it even.
@cedar quest can we have Dragalge along elekross in the event too?
Mr.Funny Man, do you wanna make my Eelektross?
impress me
why the tusk look like those thing
Its based off the mega
the mega make it like those thing
Ye
also mega is kil
I now realized that I need team names technically since I'm collabing
if someone needs a mate, i'm in
It would not be a collab contest if we didn't make atleast something together
if you have any idea to what to make feel free to dm me
The simipark duo is back together 
I'll tell you if I have any
smh smh missed opportunity for local_labrat and hero to be drawing labrat 
if they reverse the fusion order they can be 
@slow gyro
Do you like Cali and I's team name
which jrpg is that 
Hey Cali what's your JRPG autism, I know mine's MegaTen
I’ve been summoned 
Idk I didn’t choose any names 
it's Automated Universal Terraforming Intrinsic Supreme Moon obviously 
sounds like a jrpg title 
wait js curious, if ur submitting one solo, do u js input ur name twice? or js don't put your name in the table?
either, i think
i just did it for the meme
"by cradily and himself only " 
When a pair of people can't think of a name for the two of them working together when creating art for a game about a pair of Pokémon being fused to work together, it makes you wonder if there was any possible way to draw inspiration for a team name....
time to stalk the "looking for team" for a nice collab x)
better to js use the auto gen team name from japeal i guess 
good luck to people trying to find a team
I already have my team mate and it was super easy
#1459974120551743550 If anyone would be interested 👀
wow that looks good
too late
@cedar quest sorry to bother you but I was wonderign when are we getting the halloween rush role ?
oh
In that case, can I have Cynthia back? 
You wanna make my Mamoswine
I guess it’s a good thing I can’t judge on this contest 
I’m worried I may have subconsciously been harsher on the mega designs (There’s so many
)
I dunno if I want to give Spriting in a Team a try 
nah, i don't really like mamoswine body
sowwy
Damn
and also, i already sent 4 bottles in the sea for the teams, got only 1 answer so far
If you need someone and want me to make you a different concept lmk
Your options include any method that ends with 2 people being credited
You could get concept art from a non-spriter
True
Ill also enter this one tho I made that one goodra which would be hard to peak
Ill solo it cuz I have a funny nickname
wait so. team is optional right
because im just coming back from a year absence and finding a team after that is mildly awkward
You + yourself team 
my team consisting of caramel and dog
omg canariii!!! 
What is DutchSteamOven’s plan?
Farting under a blanket and then trapping someone else
And if you mean my fusion I make tynamo/quag
Will you win?
Prolly not
We could lose together 
Shore!
@cedar quest I still need to render it but here’s the WIP of the CA 
whats the body
Guess
dude this can be anything
Gastrodon 
Some gastropod
make it look like camerupt
Oh wait I see it now
Fine I’ll give it feet fins
Is that a charge stone?
Yea
The mantle at the bottom looked hella gastropod
Man I was happy with this design, maybe I should go back to the first one
I could draw smt up if you wanna sprite it, also you can add yourself to dutch teamoven I wont solo it
It was an eel living on an underwater volcano
I think it would be mad funny if eel volcano
Draw your idea and shall make it more perfect 
Aye aye cap'n
I know mega camerupt only has the one hump but it’d be way more readable with two
I think
cuteness in bound
👍
Wanna start with the lineart?
maybe this can help in areas?
I did search for references i just wasn’t able to make it work 
ah ok
Worse case scenario I’ll ask ribbon for help
I mean maybe I can try to sketch over some spots if you don't mind?
but maybe putting it into a pixel art would be a better start as I don't want to dictate how everything goes. It's not my sprite after all lol
tomorrow coloring and shading 
I will try
Yea that’s the plan 
Don’t feel pressured to do so
I'll try. I've basically gotten my two sprites done and waiting for the collabs and feedback
yeah I can
@slow gyro way I'd render it is like thick glass with a light inside it
I’m not good with rocks or ice, and mediocre at glass 
You can do four
Yes, two made, and I'm waiting on two collabs
An Eelektross/Mewtwo which was my second ever concept drawing and Tynamo/Celebi
Hopefully this helps
It does actually look more like ice now that I see it, but I'm trying to use the charge stone for reference but it seems crystals are ice in my form of shading
Well, I tried
I feel like Charge stones normaly look way more artificial
Like less natural
I also tried to refrain from Anti-Aliasing if I have the right term, but that might be the best bet
Regardless best of luck in the shading, but if you need ice shading I'm the guy
Add electric effects
Honestly, huge lightning bolts traveling around it could help
Seems interesting
I also might be seeing it wrong, but the circles feel like fish eggs to me
I’m more lolling at how stacked the deck is against me 
I was too after seeing exo's fusion but I was just being butthurt at the time which I tend to do on occasions sadly and then I got here
At this point I'm doing it for fun
Pretty much, it's like me in the RPG in most cases. I'm just doing it to learn and have fun
Funniest thing about the Eelektross event
She complains that she cant mega her Eel anymore and 90% of people make megas XD
@long basin @abstract blade your concept art may take a while since I didn’t get any time today to work on them because of work so it may go up until next weekend but I’ll try to get it done in the week
||I have something in mind for that already||
I’m calling separate mega category
we all know who's the mega winner then 
anyoen looking for a team?
you can make a bonus
||its not somethign good that I have in mind
||
Cant wait for lebanne
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1460005887979814942 to those who haven't seen the finished design in full
Ice type Eelektross? 
Local Hero is such a cool name
OH IT'S THE BLUE CRYSTALS FROM THE GEN 5 CAVE
Looks a lot more like shaved ice here tho
I'm aware and I feel like my lack of crystals in fusions I've made let me down
You'll both be fine it's still the concept stage 
Nothing a good old texturing can't fix
I'm not even working on it I did this to try and help with shading
make your partner do it 
It's not your collab? 
Nope. Just felt generous
throuple collab now
"Thou worms aren't the only fusionth throuple in town nowe" - Some blue guy
so you're saying i should change my team name to Worm^3, then 
Um....
For full context, Hero had no idea how to shade the chargestones and since I'm waiting on two collabs, I decided "hmm I can try and shade crystals" and it lead to ice
Based on the ref I'd say something like this
quadrouple 
this is technically correct but i think the easiest way to make it clear is a chargestone cave electric boulder is by making it float
I'll start it up either Monday or Tuesday - heading off to bed for work tomorrow
Well it stoped looking like a Camerupt
Yea no problem, take your time with it 
gotcha
The other one isn’t rendered 
It was the earliest version of today
@rigid abyss I’m struggling with the Dragonite 
I had some ideas but can’t find a good enough pose that works with them
@rigid abyss 
those eelektriks are so snazzy 
Judges, good luck
Just a simple tiny one
shimmery!
Hey guy I decided to come in here and be annoying
Anyways if anybody wants to collab and has a spot open I have a few ideas, or I can just help with whatever
Oh hey, I was just about to ask the same question 
Wanna collab? All of my slots are still open
I'm down, though my avalibility is gonna be quite sporadic today. Outside of a period between 3:30 and 5:30. (Thats roughly an hr from now)
That should be fine, I could just use some ideas and concepts
Any ideas for the team name?
Could easily just combine our names
unless thats like against the rules somehow
as for concepts I'll DM you the few I have
albeit theres no art, just the ideas rn
since I didn't know If I'd be collabing or not
call yourself Up Up and Away
because you're Agent and they're Zenith
doesn't it need to be one word though (as in no spaces)
It doesn‘t
oh, then thats good unless we find something else
How does the word „Agent“ tie into this?
Else I like the name
idek superheroes? 
Hey everyone, new to the server! I'm always up for a chat, so feel free to hit me up!
Ok this is def a bot 
is that the same name as before as well?
same pfp too
what is the purpose of these kinds of bots, actually? 🤔 like, what are they going for?
maybe dm scam
oh like "uwu i'm a sad sexy lady and the best way to unsad me is to give me your credit card information"?
Yeah basically
Maybe She Just has dementia 
generational screenshot
also exact same message as last time 
just a little guy (currently being collabed on)
Phishing
It's trying to get people to message them, most likely to perform a social engineering attack to get access to information and/or money
so "uwu i'm a sad sexy lady" etc etc, then 😌
click on link, get scammed, hack account, take info, sell info, profit
Also just hovering on the link can lead to it
So do not even open their DMs
I'll say it again when Dragalge contest comes but like
I am def seeing way too many megas for my liking, and Dragalge line is 100% in a """"worse"""" spot than Eel
So I am not letting y'all get away with this mega stuff again - you got this one and this one only 
This was a test and everyone failed 
the mega is generally more detailed and more palette choices
that I can understand using it as a referrence in the head
.... but other megas beyond Eel? cmon I can't let that happen again 
It was way too easy for hero to make you doubt the rule 
wait a minute 🤔
i can technically get my friend in another server to make concept art for me, and that'll count as a second collab
Ok but like
I was genuinely curious
Eel is like - in a good enough spot to where I can test something like this
Because ... when else would I get this opportunity?
tbf
you don't have the results yet. maybe hero is megas georg adn should not have been counted
You are right in that I don't have results yet, could just be early stages
But of what I've seen almost 40% has used stuff from the mega
Granted, there's not a lot yet
But 40% Day 2 is not good.
yeah, and for an event that'll only last four days 
I'm just worried that we don't get enough sprites for Eel
And then I gotta do some weird loop around shit to get more eel
I just don't wanna have to mess up my early schedule for the year
GordoGamr more like TorchicGamr
counting all his chickens before they hatch

🤔 can the togepi line pass as chickens?
this surprises me, dragalge is also pretty peak
ok so like
Dragalge itself has more sprites than Eelektross, not by a lot, but it does.
But Skrelp is suffering, still in the double digits compared to Tynamo being in triple
and of course Eel has a 2nd stage, Eelektrik - where the Dragalge line doesn't have anything in that slot
Like both are roughly around the same area, but Skrelp is undersprited rn
Hence why it's technically in a worse spot than Eel
How about this for the next one? "First 5 Entrants Can Be Megas. Must be claimed in Sheets page."
That way, we don't need the overabundance of oversized kelp monsters
(Or something like this idk, I thought this up on the fly)
bro y'all are so creative mane 
As are you. The shading in your sprites is insane
thanks twin, but i gotta step it up to contend w these creative ideas
I believe you already have with that Chimecho/Eelektross
No I'm not but I accept the two I've made, but the one collab I made is insanely creative
While the other collab is just a little guy lol
i'm glad for the event tho, eelektross doesn't get much love so its nice to see the fusions
I feel like I should've used more of the Hoenn mons that were added since I feel like they'd have a ton of potential in contests like this
But this challenge gave way to my second and third ever concept art I've made so that's a victory in my own eyes
Or we can just say no 
Worth a shot, but time will tell
#DO CASTFORM
I'd struggle with that but why not
I can help 😅
Also, space out the hashtag for big text🤓
I know, I didn't want big text 😅
Oh ok lol
That aside, now that I've done concept art maybe I can actually do Castform ideas easier
But yeah, I've got an army approximately 621 strong of those little cloud bastards if you need help 
Might be 622 if I get better at making Castform fusions, but it's like I say; Time will tell
I mean, I do at least 4 a day 😅
Or at least I try to
I might take a crack at something then. I do like a challenging fusion whether it be completed or not

i'll give it all my love 😍
-# definitely would not win if this wasn't a collab contest tho
Which of your collabs is going to win though? 
I can rule out one
smh testrun, your Ideals are lacking
what would zekrom say 
quite possibly none still, this contest is gonna be cracked
but at least i have higher chances w (cracked) friends than alone
Zekrom has no time for talk
Only time for ZEKROM KICK
oh also zekrom sprite 
i'll get on that
Bring back Little Cup, maybe that will get Skrelp sprited. (I'm not too serious)
Who wants to do Tynamo/Lopunny with me?
as in someone else doing the concept art and you spriting it?
I'm working on the concept haha
ah
I'm no spriter so I can't take you up on that unforch 😔
gl finding someone tho!
Unforch 😔
But it let us make cooler sprites and have more creative freedom, who cares if they’re alts 
Dunno if this was mentioned or not already, but will the double trouble sprites be judged based on Gen5 style guidelines or most detailed overall?
Based on past results for judged contents, it's usually guidelines plus just a liiiittle spice that does well
Idk the actual criteria though
I expect that having your own collab partner design multiple megas for the contest somewhat undermined the message to not submit megs 
it is judged on following the guidelines (so gen5 style), and you get a bonus for adding some spice as Cynder said
to be more precises, there are scoring guidelines for judged contests and they are linked in the judging sheets if you want to take a look
~~the judges should too, sometimes
~~
we do, we do 
anyway, since contests usually end with hurt feelings:
You're gonna fail. And you're gonna fail in ways that make you feel like you were judged on criteria that wasn't on the study guide. You're gonna submit a sprite that you put a ton of love and care into, got a gazillion
and a gazillion more
s, and the judges will still find something to criticize
Knowing that this is the outcome, will you still enter? Is the process alone what you will enjoy?
@/any contest newbie 🥺
wait, when did
-
is that a different server's :DSpheal:, then?
Way to solidify that I'm not even gonna try now
🫂 if that's what's best for your mental health
This is why we need rubrics 
i dunno if rubrics would help, given there's already a contest guidelines
I feel like a rubric that goes into what’s judged rather than guidelines would still be useful though, stuff like posing, composition, contrast etc
Since a lot of the time people won’t see the feedback they get coming because they just follow the guidelines and that’s it
🤔 rubric makes it sound like an official thing, like something the judges are supposed to adhere to
a "contest cheat sheet" or smth, perhaps in #spriting-resources, sounds good? 🙂
I feel like if it’s just an official guide that’s just general spriting advice
that way spriters can talk about their experiences in contests and what they've been judged on, without the assumption the judges will officially adhere to it
And people are unlikely to check it out
i don't think we really have guides on composition and contrast, though!
Yeah but the trouble is a lot of people won’t check it out if it has no weight behind it
i guess... people don't really read the contest guidelines as-is anyway, so i dunno if it being official would change anything 🤔
I feel like more people would feel the need to check it out if they want to improve
Plus it’d clear up the “I never knew this would be judged” issue
we definitely need something, at least 🤔
I would want to check it 
i literally link to this Glow-Up when talking about layering because i don't think anywhere else actually describes it
might help if i included the link #1235048817171103834 message
Layering is super essential for making big and more complicated sprites
For ease of access, here is the scoring guide that is linked with every contest's score sheet
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AGE0iHvbWTGulalvJsOXAYjFdAVKw_67oDaa7ffdA8E/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.j7w0dun69sfu
(The scoring guide is a rubric, and it lists the qualifications for each grading criteria and score option)
Scoring Guidelines Why does this document exist? This document has been made in an effort to delineate contest guidelines, and what the standard to which contests will be held against is. This includes, but is not limited to, the spriting rules which sprites submitted to these contests are expec...
You may notice that the higher-tier scores say things like "amazing application"
This is because the principles of art that make a sprite look "good" are numerous, and there isn't room for explaining each facet of skillful art
We can't write all about layering and contrast and movement and color theory and so on and so on in the rubric because knowing those things is just part of learning art
Yes, sometimes judges will critique something in a way that's not in spriting guidelines, such as "If you had less contrast in the elements in the back, it would make the pose of the arms more clear"
But that's because the spriting guidelines are a style guide for pif, and their main job is to outline what is and isn't part of the style
How to know when to use more contrast or how to arrange elements to create movement in your work is the job of art classes, and it's possible to have a full course of college classes and still not cover everything that makes "good" art good
You are welcome to make a guideline for winning contests, but ultimately you're taking on the task of creating a complete set of art classes
If you think you're able to do that, by all means, go ahead; I'm sure many people would appreciate it
When a judge gives you some feedback on a part of your sprite, it's not like "Your sprite is awful", it's more like "If you did this, your sprite would be even more awesome"
-# And in general, it's not a good idea to get your hopes up on winning a podium spot in contests that can have 50+ people unless you already know for certain that you are the number one best at that skill
So, if your only goal is to become the contest champion immediately, then no, that's not likely
Even the top-tier spriters frequently differently than they expected
If your only goal is to win a podium spot immediately, then you should only try if you're certain you know how to polish your work to perfection
But if your goal is to improve yourself, have fun, and slowly work your way to the top over several attempts, then please, come enjoy the contests with us
unless it's the community that votes, in that case make pebbl and u will be a finalist 
Pebbl wasn't a finalist 
Community voted contests are EXTREMELY dependent on having good composition
You can have jaggy details and a broken-looking foot, but if your piece has good movement, you're ascending the brackets like a helium balloon
and also the pool you are in 
There's also an element of randomness
Community voted's goal is to choose one winner rather than make an ordered list
me and my picasso against the world 
good composition and readability, with a bit of flashiness can really make a big diff in community contest
also bigger body pokemon
it's not an absolute tho 
like pebble showed
Bigger body Pokémon and sfx make it easier to control the compostion
Pebble made it far because it was so very different than the other ones around it, drawing attention
pebble may not have been a finalist but it def went much higher than what you would expect
If everybody is doing Zekrom heads and Necrozma heads and you come in with a Pikachu head, you're going to turn some heads
-# That's a lot of heads 
that's a silly argument. we shouldn't make resources for art because that's what you should be learning in school? not everyone is in art class. some people are just doing this as a hobby, and still want to improve their art skills. at least we could be giving pointers 
I did not say you should not make resources for art
I mean we can't list every artistic principle in the grading rubric
hydreigon
hence why i preferred to make a "cheat sheet" of some kind
no requirement for it to be comprehensive
Like I said, go ahead
Yeah I just don't like being made to feel bad before I even try
I don't like you being made to feel bad before you try either
i see so many folks downcast after the results come out 😔
Yeah the way you came across tho sounded like someone trying to get other people out of the way of the contest so they could have a better shot at winning bc there's less people trying
The 😌 here really adds to sounding like you don't want ppl to try lmao
Yeah I think so
I really liked reading that episode of the chat, 10/10
i fixed it with the proper emoji! 
At another point, there also technically other ways to get contest champion, I got mine for writing 
I’ve been gone for a year
may i ask who or what is/was pebble

A sprite submission to a recent community voted contest that stood out for being much smaller than the other submissions
oh my god that’s hilarious actually
if you wan the gallery post of it
#sprite-gallery message
amazing thank you lmaooo
I was gonna type out my thoughts of this convo, but Three summed up what I would've said with better words than I would've had 
The one thing I do want to touch more on is about PIF's style
I firmly stand with the idea that PIF is a sorta Gen5 +/EX style, meaning we use Gen 5 as a base and more often that not that's where it ends
But we also have the ability to push the style further than what GF has done, you see it a lot within the styles of people like Lamb sauce, Tak, FireBlade, and a more recent example is exo. There's obviously more people who stuff like this btw, but am hoping you get the idea.
The reasons that we're able to really get away with this as much is like
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Since they are not animations and instead just single frames, they can be shaded a lot more than what GF would do in certain scenarios.
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PIF is a community project with a lot more spriters than GF, and all of these people have different art styles and processes of how they sprite. It's expected with large numbers of people like this for people's style to influence their sprites. Examples of people like this are like, nymphiaribbon and NotToMention - you can see a lot of their personal style even outside of their typical mons to work with.
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The main appeal and focus of PIF is always the fusions, and therefore - the focus is always in the art. And as such, there isn't a big incentive on why to not let things push the style a lil' bit.
Obviously things should still be close to the style and not fully break it though, otherwise the games' artstyle will clash heavily with whatever is not in the style.
That's why the Sprite Managers, and what Paya does are so important.
-# And of course the Staff Helpers who do stuff for them too
Working on the second concept of mine
Yay!
Thank God community voting exists, I'm a champion now

There
Tbh, the prevalent red makes it a bit hard to read? I had no idea it's tynamo from the concept itself
I might use yellow for the ears tbh
I'd suggest so
Yea that's good
The spriter will have to change the direction it's looking, of course
That is a fast pupil shift thankfully
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1460979430083006606 if anyone wants to Use This if they have literally no better idea
i'll try to rework sfx today but Celebi is quite done too already
Take as much time you need
When it comes to submitting our Double Trouble entry to the drive, how do we format it?
Is it "by [spriter] and [spriter]" or "by [team name]"?
Also I forgot to put this here: concept art that anyone can pick up and collab with me on for the contest! https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1460295256053383423
When deciding with someone to collab with for an entry, you gotta put in a **team name**, and mark down you and your partner in the the corresponding columns
You'll also use as the name on your sprites (ex: #.# by EX4MPL3 G4M1NG.png)
Ah, thank you!
On one hand I like participating in events on the other hand I don't think judged contests align with my reason to make sprites, maybe not contests in general, at least not how they are now.
join the event but don't submit the sprite to the drive?
if your partner's okay with that
Oh don't have one, but I have indeed considered making a little guy to be apart of it but not in it
the word always needs more little guys™
@wind lynx that is an amazing sprite #recurring-events message
it really ain't...
Kinda dislike how I won with it, but that only means I need to make it a lot better!
if only for my pride lol
Okay but you fail to consider buff lurantis supremacy
The concept itself is the truly amazing part is what I'm getting at
The sprite itself is cool but buff lurantis supremacy
If anyone wants to collab, but not post then I’m down
I’m pretty much down to collab with anyone anytime^^
I’d be down too, but can’t promise how fast I’ll be able to sprite…
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1461491852568953128
In case anyone still needs a collaber, here's some eel concepts 
what is double trouble anwyays
you and a buddy create a sprite
and why are there so many elektross?
More potential and chance of amazing sprites
I'm not joking btw, the competition is high and it's noticeable
the current theme is eelektross family
And if I'm not mistaken it's being judged by Gen 5 shading?
Doesn't fully matter but either way you get the idea
I mean... Aren't they all normally judged by gen 5 shading technically? Adhering to the gen 5 style is nornally what we try to be around anyway just minus some of the errors from GameFreak sprites like missing outlines and such and plus a bit more depth because some GameFreak sprites are very flat.
I'm just going with the flow at this point. Just waiting on one collab and that's pretty much it on my side
Exo has this contest won I think
Low key idk if they do,
Like don’t get me wrong they make amazing sprites, but they are slightly outta style gen 5 styl… like too much detail + overshading
Scrolling through the contest gallery you don’t see a lot of winning sprites like this^^’
We just won’t know what the judges say until it’s over
me irl
Gen5+ is what folks have said
since we don't have to animate, we're freer to have more dynamic shading and suchlike
GATHERING EVERYONE FOR 100TH BLITZ ON SUNDAY, BE THERE TO HELP US BREAK 19 LOSES STREAK
I can try for sure
I remember the old days when we actually had a winning streak
is the theme already known ?
yes it's cradily 
If its "lets get 100 sprites of Cradily on budew/reverse" i won't be offended
Will castform be on there?
Bc if so, I think I could be of assistance
The idea of Bill Cypher's favorite pokemon being Castform is really funny to me
So for the event do we need to make an ampharos fusion sprite or just submit one that already exist that we like?
u need to gal post a new one
Okay thank you
Yeah gen5+ is a good way to describe it
-# Its not actually my favorit pokemon 
Show us sprites of your favorite mon 
Give favorite mon now 
maybe it's aegislash? 
Seismitoad
Idc if you asking me or not
I'm not actually sure I have a favorite mon. There are a lot of pokemon I like for one reason or another 😅
https://www.dragonflycave.com/favorite.html
You could try doing this thing
Damn how unexpected 
My top 50
its not a phase guys
I'm trying to do this and I'm struggling to figure this out
I only went to 28 with mine
I feel like I'm taking way too long with this.
I did mine over the course of 2 weeks 
more importantly there’s a scyther dating sim on this website 
The cutting edge of video games
Do you play as the one that eats the head of the other?
I do not believe that to be the canonical size of butterfree's feet
Ah yes, the mantis ritual
I have a thing
I have settings saved that pare down the Pokémon in the favorites picker to just PIF mons
Click Import/export state on the website and put this text file in the white text box. That should set it to have only the PIF mons as options.
If there's a mistake with it or if PIF ever adds new mons, poke me and I'll update it. Feel free to share this with other people.
wtf am i playing omg 
no cradily? bad list 0/10 
How is this the most stacked contest I’ve ever seen
Even if it does, they're all goated
My top 25, I spent way too long on this 
galvantula not no1 instant 0/10 

/jk
I had to put bastiodon at no1 come on
Meganium and golisopod near the top, taste
Lack of wooper 😔
I already showed my faves before and Idk if anyone wants to see them again.
I'll see if I can add more.
The lack of bastiodon dissapoints me but golisopod and the presence of barbaracle makes up for it
Very respectable list 
I would actually add some fossils, and more Bug types if it was a top 60 since I forgot Aurorus and Lokix
Actually wait, I'm missing a few
Fossils are all great honestly there's none that I dislike
Really bumps up rock on the favourite type ranking but steel types are the best 
Yeah, I might need to redo mine, but its ok
To be fair fav Mon change so much only like the top 5 stay consistent
No, I just missed a few mons. My top 5 is consistent unless Gen 10 pulls something out that's unexpected
Updated.
Here’s my top 100 from left to right and top to bottom 
(Sorry it’s so blurry
)
GOLDUCK THE GOAT
Lez gooo
Some very good chances
Fellow monke fan
Fellow Chi-Yu fan
Fellow bread fan 🥖
Sawsbuck and Tatsugiri are also goated choices
I have to do the favorites picker again; it's been a year or two since my last one 
if i expanded mine just a tiny bit i would have ambipom, the simians, togekiss, chi yu n lumineon too 
found n older one of mine and i didn't expect to see so many mons that rnt in this one 
like some aren't here bc i didn't to megas/other forms but mr rime, drifblim, swalot and some others said byebye 
🐌 🤝 🪸
my faves in order + nickit, mega dragalge, houndoom
Hatterene and Lumineon??? Really good taste 
A fellow bastiodon enjoyer 
SAWSBUCKKKK
What's your favorite seasonal variant of sawsbuck?

this question is too hard 
-# not summer
Mine would be winter
Probably autumn
if spring had some leaves i would say that one but i think i like autumn better (winter is also good
)
If only sawsbuck was in the game so we could fuse the different seasons together
First ever quadruple fusion 
I'd imagine it'd work something like castform
probably yes
Yeah there isn't a season system so ig it would just be route based
Yeah when it releases in 10 years
So prolly thatll affect it
If it ever gets introduced
Sawsbuck would still have to win something to get put in
Quadruple fusion confirmed for IF 2 
Fuse every pokemon into 1
I mean what's stopping us from fusing fusions together? 
Like yeah, Arceus is in there
But so are like 17 babies
The pinnacle of all pokemon is like mid 400s bst 
Probably lower
Spring or winter for me!
I never realized summer sawsbuck has its tail upturned and no other form does????
I never realized she was holding a plate of corn in this scene
I love all the subtle differences between the forms
one pixel from every pokémon
What would it's cry be 
every cry at the same time, obviously.
every pixel screaming in agony because its an amalgamation even arceus didn’t approve
You're going to have to be more specific; we have a lot of recurring events
Which event do you need help with?
Okay, I finally got an updated list of my top 100 favorites 
you reminded me I wanted to reorder the list I did
past a certain point its less organized
Dex docu 28
I don't think "Docu28" is in PIF. :thinking: Did you misspell something?
can anyone tell my favorite type?
GLIMMORA SPOTTED!! 
Looks like it's Grass?
no fairy
Ah ok
I think thats the highest I've ever seen brionne
u got my least fav mon in ur first place 
I didn't know during the game that you could pick multiple at once
they didn't disclose that
It doesn't really change the results 
Yeah and I didn't do too many pages before then so it's nbd
But I'm at my top 99 rn and it's getting really hard to eliminate mons
Does this just go on forever
Probably goes through every Pokemon
It keeps showing me the same 5 that I don't even like lmao
BUDEW IS IN THE BLITZ ?!
Well i was delaying them for the 50th budew to be my 100th sprite but that may change things
Hit it right so your 50th budew is your 100th sprite for the 100th blitz 
I'd need to do 8 sprites including 5 non-budews for that.. might be a lot
for some of you nothing i know
well you gotta pick some otherwise it keeps looping since it won't know where they place
Yeah but even when I picked out of them I kept seeing them
idk then
Hey everyone, new to the server! I'm always up for a chat, so feel free to hit me up!
Yeah this is definitely a bot/phish lmao
Mods!!!
I say we hear Helen out 
Helen has been new to this server three times now 
[[Helen]], this is the [[third]] time you've [[introduced yourself as new to the server]]
Maybe she's just forgetfull happens to the best of us
Hi everyone! I'm new here
Join a server, forget your here and you've just gotta reintroduce yourself
Hi Cynder!!
Be rude not to
well did anyone ever hit her up for a chat? maybe she doesn't feel welcomed here yet 
@naive viper I think this user's account was compromised. Their history (at least in this channel, I haven't checked others) is just this exact message every few days

Yeah maybe we have to formally invite her to the server so she stops introducing herself 
their only history is those 3 messages
vampire rules. once we invite her in then it's all over
We just need some sunlight and running water...
I wonder if the bot is activated if you reply to the message
Probably with a ping
banishes to gen 5 era 😛
My partner and I from Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon
It's so fitting seeing those two species next to each other
My partner was Mudkip! I was Charmander. It was great, Heat Wave and Earthquake worked wonders
uhhh
i tried doing my favourite shinies
Rowlet my Goat
bring shiinotic to PIF thanks he has so much potential
You seem to like the slithering form a lot. Long tails, thin appendages, serpentine bodies, even a tongue long enough to wrap around the neck like a scarf.
And then there's blobs like Pyukumuku, Swalot, and Wailord. Interesting taste.
Another Jellicent appreciator
SAWS. BUCK.
Flygon in the top 10

Flygon is SO GOOD
My GOAT
Matter of fact I did this favorite Pokemon sorter quite a while ago let’s see if I can find it
Might even need to update it
Found it
This was made in June :o
dragonite, corviknight, bulbasaur <3
Waw….. based based based
I haven’t done a dragonflycave favorites because it takes too long and none of my favorites are set in stone it’s just a massive list of blorbos i like 
the dily one is the newer one, right 
No they're both from the same time, I just had it cropped weirdly becuase I did it on my tablet
All hands on board! We need you to complete this week's 100th blitz! https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1197396047434088518
Claim and complete the fusions form the sheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1izMA_ZSOmDNto3jWKwXKX3bCfed5JPvMWnX85xoYekQ/edit?gid=0#gid=0) and post them into sprite gallery with "100th Blitz" notes in the post before end of Saturday, to help us win and be in the commemorative collage!
i think it's saturday but still! *rings cowbell*
Oh shit, for real
Oh is that why so many people made their sprites already? They thought the deadline was Wednesday? 
well 100 sprites in a week is still a lot of work 
Its not letting me edit
Can I please claim Diancie/Poliwrath?
claimed it for you 🫡
I think you need to join a google group to edit or login at the very least
Oh gotcha! Will know for next time! Ty!
i think this is gonna get axed XD
one of the 2 groups need to put one more "e" 
my bad i like trolling 
(they are technically different... i'll un-capitalize the i is that good)
oh, is that the difference? 
Alright guys , who si with me to get a refund on the spritober rush role 
A refund ? elaborate
They haven’t given us the role yet 
oh, i though it was some evil plan to make ghost sprites
I don’t blame them considering how that contest for the flag design turned out
I have no clue what to do for the Rush roles, nor do I even have the perms to do so
Also I get to talk about this
I think the Rush roles.... are not a good thing
Because the effort it takes to cycle them out is not equivalent to their results of like
What they do for the event
i would like to have cynthia back 🙋
I miss my little baby luvdisc pal
I didn’t see it. What happened with it?
That rush icon was so cute
three entries, iirc
Oh
Yeah it was another contest inside a contest inside a rush
tbf one of those entries had a LOT of people
maybe we would have had more entries if we didn't want to collectively shitpost
And it's not to mention that the submissions were meant to be trainer card backs as well, so they weren't designed to be viewed as a small flag
i think the big thing was that it came right after a really huge burst of spriting with all of the head mons so people didn't have the energy for it
Dude Gordo why didn’t ya mention all your lovely cohosts for the spritelock 
There was blowback in Emerald and Ruby
Sapphire was chill with it
There were some people who had built up really high expectations for the surprise
Tbh, I had originally planned to release the halftime standings with the surprise, but when I went to ask for them, I was told they couldn't be done until the end of the event
-# And then they were released the next day, so people got it, just not when I had planned
That's riiiiight it was marketed as a surprise
The problem was that a "surprise" was on the calendar from the start, which allowed people to hype up what the surprise would be
and the reveal it was just a... thank you collage was really underwhelming
it would have been received better had it not been on the calendar. it would be actually been a surprise, for one
That's what people had problems with, they were heavily expecting another pokemon because they felt robbed
People were nearly demanding a new Pokémon addition for that day, which we just don't have the authority to do
yeah, i'm 90% sure that if it weren't on the calendar it would've gone over way better
No more surprises 
i don't even know what you'd have the authority to do
you can't add more pokemon to the game... maybe a video on the official channel showcasing the sprites? so like a collage over time?
I personally think the points system worked out great 
I don't personally have authority over the youtube channel, so I can't say if that would be even allowed
kinda supports my point. 😔 aside from collages, what even is in your power?
We made sure to tell people, by the way, the collage is not a new mon addition
We don't have the authority to add new mons
The immediate reaction to that was "Hear that? The surprise is definitely a new mon because they love lying to build suspense!"
I don't know what we can tell people if they don't take anything seriously beyond what they want to hear
oh right
and the problem with that was the Frog lie- yeah
last year we got the claim of one new pokemon
and then we got all the way to dex no 500
or maybe it was the year before
the jangmo-o vote
Honestly it's just a really unfortunate case of pre-conceived expectations supported by previous events
i don't know how you'd work around that besides, idk, just not bringing it up
yeahh I genuinely don't think there's a way around it because there will ALWAYS be the hyper-suspicious people who remember what has happened in the past
And you can't just not respond to them because then they'll keep asking and asking and then complaining about not getting some kind of answer
And you can't just say "I can't say" because then they're gonna think "Ohhh there's totally something afoot here."
I guess the only way to avoid that is to ban the people who ask 
All ik is that another Rainbow Rocket takeover is possible

sorry to break up the convo, but how does one go about running a spritelocke? asking for a friend 
Staff got fed up and went 
i thought there were a couple of folks who wanted to do one as well iirc (like, in the pif server)
Im not gonna lie that was literally my favourite event, it was so silly
man unfortunately I was still extremely new to the spriting side of the server when the whole Rainbow Rocket stuff was going on
Was honestly kinda weirded out by it at the time 😭
depends what your goal is
it's a word i made up that means "randomize everything, when you encounter an autogen, stop and sprite it"
Gordo's version is that you can only use autogens on your team and you have to create sprites for them in order to use them
must have been an interesting introduction to spriting XD
@cedar quest, what kind of details do you have for this aspect of your announcement
I think I had started spriting, then stopped for a lil while, and then in that break the whole Rainbow Rocket thing started. Then I came back in the middle of it all and just kinda tried to ignore it 
my rules are why i still have this many sprites on my TBD 
The
takeover was fun imo. Hard to remember but I thought the fact all the higher ups was basically role-playing was cool
i think VioletDagger did stantler/solosis, now that i think about it
bear in mind, this is after i've cleared about half the spritelocke TBD
so if you value your sanity, you probably want to do Gordo's rules
Before spritelocke was a thing, I was doing a "spriter challenge" playthrough, in which mons were all randomized and I could only use gift mons and static encounters
That way is a bit less intense as well
But the way it was phrased in Gordo's announcement makes it sound like he's talking about running a stream
yeah that
it would be cool to have another stream
voice reveal
speak in not-your-real-voice easy 
this exact thing happened to me too. i was so confused and when i asked people to explain no one did lol
Same actually lmao
I only really avoided it tho bc I didn't want to do event stuff at that time
Everyone just kinda got possessed by a massive roleplay session, sometimes so much so that we neglected to inform others what the heck we were doing 
Yeah I was thinking it was weird Gordo said that and then had no place to sign up for randomly being selected to run one lmao
I can work something out
I know @slow gyro had mentioned wanting to do one

Id love to, but i need to get a job first 
And I'm no stranger to rp so I recognized what was happening (especially since I still recognized some staff members despite being in rp mode)
I think I was more confused as to what the goal of the event was than what was happening in general
Which is a fine line to walk but eh
Stream on Twitch and become Partner immediately easy 
I'm honestly not sure what Rainbow Rocket takeover's goal was other than roleplaying, I know the evil team got points for making fusions but I couldn't tell you what came of it other than at some point we got all the Hoenn mons but it felt almost unrelated lol
Oh right, I remember announcements saying "give us fusions about this and this" or wtvr
I think I did my first Concept Craze during RR takeover actually
It was kind of funny that I was actually against rainbow rocket the whole time with some other members of the server, and rainbow rocket technically got spheal for us in the end
I was pretty vocal about refusing to join, so Kiwi manually put the role on me.
And that ended up breaking the bot that counted points 
Sabotage! >:3
Double cross
Thorns told me I was actually allowed to join, but at that point it was basically already over anyways 

